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Title: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 01:08:16 PM
Then he will talk about Azimio la Umoja.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 01:14:14 PM
Pundit, wacha utoto.
Did you see Raila with those rowdies throwing stones? Let them take their own responsibilities.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
These Raila supporters are playing into Rutos hands.
This will only strengethen the myth that Raila supporters are Violent and a Raila Presidency God forbid will only alienate them from good things.
Funny how Raila is well received in Rutos strongholds of Mt Kenya , Rift Valley and North Eastern but Nyanza cannot reciprocate.
Shauri yao....
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: gout on November 10, 2021, 01:55:05 PM
Ironical, they are celebrating okuyu political maturity yet still practicing odingaism.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
Those are details. Raila should have gone to Kondele one day before incoming PORK Ruto land in kisumu and explain to Kondele guys why they need to welcome Ruto.

Raila does that before Uhuru visit the lake.

The responsibility square lies with Raila.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 01:14:14 PM
Pundit, wacha utoto.
Did you see Raila with those rowdies throwing stones? Let them take their own responsibilities.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
This is actually the main reason why Raila has not become PORK - people fear the Luo intolerance will be insufferable.
Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
These Raila supporters are playing into Rutos hands.
This will only strengethen the myth that Raila supporters are Violent and a Raila Presidency God forbid will only alienate them from good things.
Funny how Raila is well received in Rutos strongholds of Mt Kenya , Rift Valley and North Eastern but Nyanza cannot reciprocate.
Shauri yao....
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
Your problem is equating Ruto with PORK.
Those were just goons with nothing to do and tomorrow the unfortunate incedent will be forgotten.
Btw, where was Utumishi kwa Wote?

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
Those are details. Raila should have gone to Kondele one day before incoming PORK Ruto land in kisumu and explain to Kondele guys why they need to welcome Ruto.

Raila does that before Uhuru visit the lake.

The responsibility square lies with Raila.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:27:26 PM
My friend Ruto is working extra hand to keep warriors calm against provocation from handshake. That is what takes leadership. Even online Kalenjin are very behaved. Ruto himself is turning the other cheek despite Uhuru attacks. That is political maturity. If it was Raila - he would be mishandled the fallout with Uhuru like he did Kibaki - and lost GEMA in the process.

Raila and Luos must try to be on their best behaviour in the next few months.

It incumbent of ODM leadership to appeal to Kondele and Kibera people to calm down knowing their propensity to needless violence.

Otherwise like Junet killed Raila in Mt Kenya by telling Mutahi he will visitor in Nyanza gov- these kind of stone throwing - make it hard for Raila in GEMA and Rift Valley - because this kind of intolerance is repaid with similar intolerance.

You cannot be trusted with country leadership if you're already throwing stones before you get power.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
Your problem is equating Ruto with PORK.
Those were just goons with nothing to do and tomorrow the unfortunate incedent will be forgotten.
Btw, where was Utumishi kwa Wote?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 03:41:04 PM
 :D :D :D
Who believes this guy with one makende?
Josef Goebbels would have done much better.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 04:00:51 PM

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Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 03:41:04 PM
:D :D :D
Who believes this guy with one makende?
Josef Goebbels would have done much better.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 10, 2021, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 01:08:16 PM
Then he will talk about Azimio la Umoja.
Eldoret, my hometown is a constant livewire. I hope nothing erupts and millions displaced overnight. Staying contained is good for Kenya!
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 04:50:54 PM
Believe in what you write.

Kenyans are very forgetful. Do they even recall who was Meschack Yibei? :( :(


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Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
Forgetful of their leaders wrongdoing . Never forgetful if their leaders are attacked. We all know what happened just before 2007 elections with Chinkorokoro.
If lets say God forbid Uhurus motorcade was stoned by  guys from Nyanza it will Gemans will immediately get emotional. By if it was done by a GEMAns then they will say he needs to address some shortcomings.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 04:50:54 PM
Believe in what you write.

Kenyans are very forgetful. Do they even recall who was Meschack Yibei? :( :(


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Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 05:48:48 PM

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-10-mudavadi-condemns-kondele-fracas-during-ruto-tour/

“It's saddening to see the violent events that took place in Kisumu today. We need to learn to be tolerant of each other in all walks of life. Violence breeds more violence which we don't want," Mudavadi said.

Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 05:53:37 PM


Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 05:54:35 PM


Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 05:57:09 PM


Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 01:14:14 PM
Pundit, wacha utoto.
Did you see Raila with those rowdies throwing stones? Let them take their own responsibilities.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 06:03:09 PM
This follows the Busia violence. It obvious Raila is afraid of Ruto hard-nosed campaigns. Ruto should keep going to Nyanza to expose them for what they are - violent lot undeserving of leadership.

Ruto should do Kondele every 3 months. Then Siaya, Bondo, Ugenya. All the Raila strongholds so we can see the Azimio la Fujo in full force.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Dear Mami on November 10, 2021, 07:09:05 PM
Ruito knows all this.  He went to Kondele specifically to throw money knowing it will cause chaos against the youth. He did not go their to change minds or get votes but cause chaos and use that as an excuse to cause chaos when RAO goes to Bomet.  This too will fail as his over kujipanga and cleverness will fail him from getting the presidency.

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 06:03:09 PM
This follows the Busia violence. It obvious Raila is afraid of Ruto hard-nosed campaigns. Ruto should keep going to Nyanza to expose them for what they are - violent lot undeserving of leadership.

Ruto should do Kondele every 3 months. Then Siaya, Bondo, Ugenya. All the Raila strongholds so we can see the Azimio la Fujo in full force.
Pundit, I'm watching Citizen news right now and I've just heard them report that the cops there said the violence broke out between two groups of youth over money given by/from the DP camp.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 10, 2021, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: Dear Mami on November 10, 2021, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 06:03:09 PM
This follows the Busia violence. It obvious Raila is afraid of Ruto hard-nosed campaigns. Ruto should keep going to Nyanza to expose them for what they are - violent lot undeserving of leadership.

Ruto should do Kondele every 3 months. Then Siaya, Bondo, Ugenya. All the Raila strongholds so we can see the Azimio la Fujo in full force.
Pundit, I'm watching Citizen news right now and I've just heard them report that the cops there said the violence broke out between two groups of youth over money given by/from the DP camp.
Fake news deduced from Mutyambai report. Why stone DP's high-end vehicles. The groups should have fought themselves and let Ruto go to the next stop undisturbed!
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:24:53 PM
You know who Macharia support. Kondele and kibra violence dates way back to 1960s. There is really no need to spin this.

Raila if he was a democrat - should have issued a statement now - condemning he violence and appealing to his supporters to allow others to freely sell it.

But spin it all day. Wanjigi was stoned. Uhuru has been stoned. Jomo Kenyatta was stoned leading to massacre in 1969.

The only spin is for ODM  and Raila to issue one sentence. We strongly condemn the violence in Kisumu and urge all kenyans to tolerate political difference. HIYO TU.

Spinning is going to make it worse. The biggest victims of Odinga Political intimidation machine is not Ruto - he goes there one in blue moon - and is just going for lip services - but LUOS who cannot differ with Odingaism - Luos have been reduced to political slaves of Odingas - and they have suffered 60yrs of political marginilisation.

When likes of Orengo or Mboya or Ouko or Nyongo tried to offer divergent opinion - Raila deploy Kondele boys to beat them to pulp - and now entire region has been reduced to Odinga LOW IQ POLITICS.

Quote from: Dear Mami on November 10, 2021, 07:09:05 PM
Pundit, I'm watching Citizen news right now and I've just heard them report that the cops there said the violence broke out between two groups of youth over money given by/from the DP camp.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Kesho we will have another day. Not even one injury was reported. You are making a mountain out of an anthill. :D :D :D

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:24:53 PM
You know who Macharia support. Kondele and kibra violence dates way back to 1960s. There is really no need to spin this.

Raila if he was a democrat - should have issued a statement now - condemning he violence and appealing to his supporters to allow others to freely sell it.

But spin it all day. Wanjigi was stoned. Uhuru has been stoned. Jomo Kenyatta was stoned leading to massacre in 1969.

The only spin is for ODM  and Raila to issue one sentence. We strongly condemn the violence in Kisumu and urge all kenyans to tolerate political difference. HIYO TU.

Spinning is going to make it worse.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
If 2022 turn violent - remember Kalenjin warriors will use today event to justify attacking innocent Luos.It happen to Gusii in 2007 when idiotic Nyachae attacked Ruto. Lots of Gusii suffered for nothing.

Anybody attacking Ruto I keep saying is endangering their people. Luhya if you join the bandwagon - then  your people will suffer greatly.

Just imagine if somoene injure Ruto now - how many Luos in Eldoret or Kericho will be killed??

Immediately Nyachae injured Ruto - the same day Kipisigis blocked Kisii cars - and stoned innocent Gusii.

This is NOT A JOKING MATTER. This election I keep saying is NOT a JOKE. Small mistakes like this spark tribal violence. In Rwanda the killing of president sparked a genocide that killed 800,000 people.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Kesho we will have another day. Not even one injury was reported. You are making a mountain out of an anthill. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 10, 2021, 07:32:51 PM
Generally this opens the disruption of rallies  whereby baba will be solely the loser, expect him to face violence elsewhere very unfortunate. Its too early for this. But now the lid is open for violence
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 07:44:42 PM
When it stoops this low and is made worse by Matiamgi boys sanitizing this kind of intolerance then it might lead Kenya  to  brink of an abyss.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 10, 2021, 08:05:21 PM
Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 07:44:42 PM
When it stoops this low and is made worse by Matiamgi boys sanitizing this kind of intolerance then it might lead Kenya  to  brink of an abyss.
The police has stooped too low this was not stage managed, people are asking was Jimmy Wanjigi also stage managed and if police want to follow that route unfortunately i will have to agree with pundit the country will go up in smoke. We have to look at Ethiopia and see whats happening there,nothing special about Kenya can easily and instantly happen.
Generally this will cause baba to loose any little support he has elsewhere apart from luo nyanza and western
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 08:08:38 PM
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 08:11:07 PM
Mutaymbai is big mistake to happen in Kenya police. He is feeckless. Should be fired as soon as possibe.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 08:15:49 PM

These people dont fear ICC it amazes me.....Hiyo mali yote will be sued to pay Lawyers.

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 08:11:07 PM
Mutaymbai is big mistake to happen in Kenya police. He is feeckless. Should be fired as soon as possibe.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
They keep playing with fire. They think when they have Raila - they control everything. What they dont understand is Ruto is bigger than Raila ever was...and is a dynamite.  God forbid, if Ruto was to die today, Kenya will become Rwanda. They keep pushing and poking Ruto eyes hoping he will lose his cool or be intimidated.

But Ruto is not guy you can intimidate. You can only negotiate with him. Ruto is fearless - once committed to a cause - he doesnt back down. Raila is coward who will run when things get hot..

Quote from: Nowayhaha on March 10, 1975, 07:07:29 AM

These people dont fear ICC it amazes me.....Hiyo mali yote will be sued to pay Lawyers.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 08:57:59 PM

When Muthaura and Ali Hussein found themselves in Hague. They had to go. This is what Public Servants and officers dont understand . You can act on instructions feom people around politicians but when the rubber meets the road . You are on your own. The St Mary boys who are calling the shots will eventually make peace with Rutos team  somehow its just a matter of time.
However some will cry premium tears be it may. History has taught us before....

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
They keep playing with fire. They think when they have Raila - they control everything. What they dont understand is Ruto is bigger than Raila ever was...and is a dynamite.  God forbid, if Ruto was to die today, Kenya will become Rwanda. They keep pushing and poking Ruto eyes hoping he will lose his cool or be intimidated.

But Ruto is not guy you can intimidate. You can only negotiate with him. Ruto is fearless - once committed to a cause - he doesnt back down. Raila is coward who will run when things get hot..

Quote from: Nowayhaha on March 10, 1975, 07:07:29 AM

These people dont fear ICC it amazes me.....Hiyo mali yote will be sued to pay Lawyers.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 09:45:00 PM
Ruto continue with his rallies in Homabay and Migori in his damaged car
(https://scontent.fnbo2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/254956223_1613275472351272_8199496115315267142_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=KEtD_pEfvGMAX8y9lGq&tn=G6G7sDIkcvhxQCfX&_nc_ht=scontent.fnbo2-1.fna&oh=6ebc636d2f66e908f2f395cab7e820c9&oe=61917915)
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 11:04:54 PM
Pundit the keyboard warrior busy calling for war. :D :D :D
Pundit makes too much noise. I always informed you, do not take for granted that only the Kalejin have the monopoly of violence.
Btw, Ruto just all of us is just a mortal. Do not place him next to Jesus.


Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
If 2022 turn violent - remember Kalenjin warriors will use today event to justify attacking innocent Luos.It happen to Gusii in 2007 when idiotic Nyachae attacked Ruto. Lots of Gusii suffered for nothing.

Anybody attacking Ruto I keep saying is endangering their people. Luhya if you join the bandwagon - then  your people will suffer greatly.

Just imagine if somoene injure Ruto now - how many Luos in Eldoret or Kericho will be killed??

Immediately Nyachae injured Ruto - the same day Kipisigis blocked Kisii cars - and stoned innocent Gusii.

This is NOT A JOKING MATTER. This election I keep saying is NOT a JOKE. Small mistakes like this spark tribal violence. In Rwanda the killing of president sparked a genocide that killed 800,000 people.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 11:12:02 PM
I admit i cannot fight. I spend most of 2007 running and hidding from being conscripted to join kalenjin warriors. But If you want to reminded of what kind of atrocities savages can unleash please watch videos. Near my home - 49 gusii were allegedly killed - one survived - with several panga cuts - he speaks kalenjin and was well known football coach - I saw many raped - I know of two babies who died in police station near my home. It's was horriffic. We took women to police stations - the men were rejected - as police station were full - we tried to drive them to border - all roads were blocked - some choose to walk at night - we decided to keep our farm workers - they were hidding and staying orders - sleeping with us - those boys are now big men - they are family to us

Ruto is not a mere mortal - Ruto is hustler nation leader - with 99 percent of Kalenjin support. That is a powerdeg. You touch Ruto so you can see the demons Kalenjin will unleash on your people.

If 2007 was bad - remember it was pro-borno war to help Raila. Now imagine touching a kalenjin hero like Ruto - BOSS - some jokes should not even be imagined.

Jaribu kwanza muchape pokot huko Laikipia before you start war with Kalenjin nation. Me I am here to warn people. You do not listen - shauri yenu - dont come shouting ICC for the next 10yrs.



Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 11:04:54 PM
Pundit the keyboard warrior busy calling for war. :D :D :D
Pundit makes too much noise. I always informed you, do not take for granted that only the Kalejin have the monopoly of violence.
Btw, Ruto just all of us is just a mortal. Do not place him next to Jesus.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Okoths7272 on November 10, 2021, 11:51:32 PM
So kuchoma watu Na mishale ,kuchoma watu ndani ya kanisa and small stone skirmishes which will make you elected? Kuiba takriban mabilioni ya pesa ya wakenya is nothing to you?

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
This is actually the main reason why Raila has not become PORK - people fear the Luo intolerance will be insufferable.
Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
These Raila supporters are playing into Rutos hands.
This will only strengethen the myth that Raila supporters are Violent and a Raila Presidency God forbid will only alienate them from good things.
Funny how Raila is well received in Rutos strongholds of Mt Kenya , Rift Valley and North Eastern but Nyanza cannot reciprocate.
Shauri yao....
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:03:46 AM
War is war...the problem I see from kenyan tribal perspective...Luos have a problem distinguish btw that..peace and war...they are likely to needlessly throw stones. That scare a lot of people. It also true that many Kenya are scared of Kalenjin looting culture.

It's really btw proud violent and loud Luos versus humble secretive deadly and thieving kalenjin in 2022.

Kenyans know what a Kalenjin presidency looks like - 24yrs of moi - they dont know what Luo presidency looks like - except from Uganda and South Sudan...it doesnt look pretty.

Quote from: Okoths7272 on November 10, 2021, 11:51:32 PM
So kuchoma watu Na mishale ,kuchoma watu ndani ya kanisa and small stone skirmishes which will make you elected? Kuiba takriban mabilioni ya pesa ya wakenya is nothing to you?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 12:37:45 AM
RV , they trying lure you so that you can start grwphically pain this thread with violence.Please desist.
Facts are we have seen today who is violent. Truth of the matter is Deep state final solution to stop a Ruto presidency is to instigate violence . They have decided to go the Samson route , The before I self destruct route.
The biggest dissapoinment which has raised the redflags is the boys in blue trying to sanitize the incident . That is dangerous , It clearly shows they are parisan and getting orders feom somewhere evident the St Mary boys. That there is dangerous.
Politics is a very emotive thing akin to religion. When it becomes physical control can be lost. Luckily Ruto knows the objective. One reason which enhances the believe Raila wing of ODM advanced violence in 2007 as strategy to get into power.
You see in 2018 Uhuru and Raila told us handshake will solve the biolence question which comes with elections . Its evident the probpem was not about Winner takes all but its about intelorence . The only way to solve it is takle it heads on.
All Presidential candidates in 92 are gone with exception of Kibaki and Chibule Wa Tsuma . Kenya will always remain . We need to leave it a better place.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 11, 2021, 03:50:46 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
If 2022 turn violent - remember Kalenjin warriors will use today event to justify attacking innocent Luos.It happen to Gusii in 2007 when idiotic Nyachae attacked Ruto. Lots of Gusii suffered for nothing.

Anybody attacking Ruto I keep saying is endangering their people. Luhya if you join the bandwagon - then  your people will suffer greatly.

Just imagine if somoene injure Ruto now - how many Luos in Eldoret or Kericho will be killed??

Immediately Nyachae injured Ruto - the same day Kipisigis blocked Kisii cars - and stoned innocent Gusii.

This is NOT A JOKING MATTER. This election I keep saying is NOT a JOKE. Small mistakes like this spark tribal violence. In Rwanda the killing of president sparked a genocide that killed 800,000 people.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Kesho we will have another day. Not even one injury was reported. You are making a mountain out of an anthill. :D :D :D
I pray nothing goes down, and I pray DP Ruto is not hurt, or killed because Kenya will take 50-60 years back economically, socially, and politically. I fear Kalenjins, especially the ignorant villagers in Simat, Kipkabus, Kipkaren, Bronjo, Chemalal, Chepkongony, Chebarus, Sitotwet, Nyaru, Keben, Kenegut, Burnt Forest, Sochoi, and all over the villages. Kenyans can be savages' towards fellow Kenyans. I experienced land clashes around Arnesen's Boys in the late 90s, and I don't like it one bit. My stomach is still turning over 25 years later.  Leaders and government institutions should be working around the clock to ensure anyone throwing stones is arrested and jailed quickly, especially anyone threatening DP, because Kenya's existence is almost dependent on his safety.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Okoths7272 on November 11, 2021, 04:12:47 AM
What is he doing in nyanza?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 11, 2021, 10:34:35 AM
Yes they know and many are eager to go back to that error. :D :D :D

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:03:46 AM
War is war...the problem I see from kenyan tribal perspective...Luos have a problem distinguish btw that..peace and war...they are likely to needlessly throw stones. That scare a lot of people. It also true that many Kenya are scared of Kalenjin looting culture.

It's really btw proud violent and loud Luos versus humble secretive deadly and thieving kalenjin in 2022.

Kenyans know what a Kalenjin presidency looks like - 24yrs of moi - they dont know what Luo presidency looks like - except from Uganda and South Sudan...it doesnt look pretty.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
If 2022 turn violent - remember Kalenjin warriors will use today event to justify attacking innocent Luos.It happen to Gusii in 2007 when idiotic Nyachae attacked Ruto. Lots of Gusii suffered for nothing.

Anybody attacking Ruto I keep saying is endangering their people. Luhya if you join the bandwagon - then  your people will suffer greatly.

Just imagine if somoene injure Ruto now - how many Luos in Eldoret or Kericho will be killed??

Immediately Nyachae injured Ruto - the same day Kipisigis blocked Kisii cars - and stoned innocent Gusii.

This is NOT A JOKING MATTER. This election I keep saying is NOT a JOKE. Small mistakes like this spark tribal violence. In Rwanda the killing of president sparked a genocide that killed 800,000 people.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Kesho we will have another day. Not even one injury was reported. You are making a mountain out of an anthill. :D :D :D

Pundit this was stagemanaged. You started threats on Kikuyu, Gusii, Luo and all before one stone thrown. Which presidential candidate hunt vote in Kondele at this time? Rail didnt go deep Eldoret for vote hunting. Murkonmen asking Kenyatta 1969. When did Jomo go Kondele to hunt votes? When he went Mathare he got what he wanted.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:53:12 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-11-karen-residents-complain-of-mugging-noise-outside-rutos-home/

The More Things Change premier near karen.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 11, 2021, 12:03:46 PM
Ruto does not see the difference between Karen and Sugoi.
Let him relocate those campaigns to Sugoi.

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:53:12 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-11-karen-residents-complain-of-mugging-noise-outside-rutos-home/

The More Things Change premier near karen.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
Stage managed or provoked? Which threats. I am political pundit. I analyze things. If you think Ruto stage managed it - you need to provide evidence - Ruto paid XYZ - and all that.

It more plausible to say this was provoked but Ruto remember is not a coward who will be afraid to go to Kondele or Kibera...Kwenda lazima aende.

If Kibera people touch him; then you've touched a live wire.

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Pundit this was stagemanaged. You started threats on Kikuyu, Gusii, Luo and all before one stone thrown. Which presidential candidate hunt vote in Kondele at this time? Rail didnt go deep Eldoret for vote hunting. Murkonmen asking Kenyatta 1969. When did Jomo go Kondele to hunt votes? When he went Mathare he got what he wanted.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:11:54 PM
The DPORK house like statehouse is public office...Police should provide more security, add more traffic controllers and all that...otherwise Karen residence should have objected (tough luck) when DPORK office was being built.

This is an example of silliness from Anti-Ruto force.

It's feed to Hustler versus Dynasty propaganda. Nothing make Karen residence more special than Kibera...

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:53:12 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-11-karen-residents-complain-of-mugging-noise-outside-rutos-home/

The More Things Change premier near karen.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
Stage managed or provoked? Which threats. I am political pundit. I analyze things. If you think Ruto stage managed it - you need to provide evidence - Ruto paid XYZ - and all that.

It more plausible to say this was provoked but Ruto remember is not a coward who will be afraid to go to Kondele or Kibera...Kwenda lazima aende.



If Kibera people touch him; then you've touched a live wire.

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Pundit this was stagemanaged. You started threats on Kikuyu, Gusii, Luo and all before one stone thrown. Which presidential candidate hunt vote in Kondele at this time? Rail didnt go deep Eldoret for vote hunting. Murkonmen asking Kenyatta 1969. When did Jomo go Kondele to hunt votes? When he went Mathare he got what he wanted.

Kondele stone blamed on Raila because Kisumu is his area. How about Karen mugging? Hasola?

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-10-uhurus-office-had-40-officials-registered-for-cop26-in-glasgow/

In Summary
At 312, Kenya had the 6th largest national delegation after Brazil (479), Turkey (376), DR Congo (373), Ghana (337) and Russia (312).
The Presidency also had 13 more individuals on the list as part of Deputy President's wife Rachel Ruto's delegation.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 01:12:59 PM
It incumbent upon ODM to ensure Ruto is welcomed in Kondele or Kibra - if they want to proof they are mature and ready to be entrusted with PORK. The same way Ruto would be blamed if Raila was stoned in Kalenjin land.

As for Karen - they are playing into Ruto hand - their madharau against poor is reason why there is big disconnect btw dynasties and hustlers - especially in Mt kenya.

Ruto has changed the narrative this election to be about the POOR - instead of the usual tribal politics.

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 12:50:58 PM
Kondele stone blamed on Raila because Kisumu is his area. How about Karen mugging? Hasola?

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-10-uhurus-office-had-40-officials-registered-for-cop26-in-glasgow/

In Summary
At 312, Kenya had the 6th largest national delegation after Brazil (479), Turkey (376), DR Congo (373), Ghana (337) and Russia (312).
The Presidency also had 13 more individuals on the list as part of Deputy President's wife Rachel Ruto's delegation.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 11, 2021, 01:31:21 PM
PORK is not entrusted to a mob in Kondele or in Sugoi. It is for an individual. It is the work of the police to apprehend those that cause trouble and eventually their sponsors or inciters. Anything else is porojo on your part.

Btw, are you not the same person who disregards the poor Nairobians who live in Ololo?

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 01:12:59 PM
It incumbent upon ODM to ensure Ruto is welcomed in Kondele or Kibra - if they want to proof they are mature and ready to be entrusted with PORK. The same way Ruto would be blamed if Raila was stoned in Kalenjin land.

As for Karen - they are playing into Ruto hand - their madharau against poor is reason why there is big disconnect btw dynasties and hustlers - especially in Mt kenya.

Ruto has changed the narrative this election to be about the POOR - instead of the usual tribal politics.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 01:35:30 PM
Lest we forget.

https://citizen.digital/news/k-senator-gideon-moi-from-meeting-talai-3447547/


Was Talai elder in Kondele or Kondele youth travel to Talai to meet Gideon?

Are Kondele youth based in Karen?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:35:32 PM

Better the devil we know than the one we dont......
Quote from: Kadudu on November 11, 2021, 10:34:35 AM
Yes they know and many are eager to go back to that error. :D :D :D

Quote from: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:03:46 AM
War is war...the problem I see from kenyan tribal perspective...Luos have a problem distinguish btw that..peace and war...they are likely to needlessly throw stones. That scare a lot of people. It also true that many Kenya are scared of Kalenjin looting culture.

It's really btw proud violent and loud Luos versus humble secretive deadly and thieving kalenjin in 2022.

Kenyans know what a Kalenjin presidency looks like - 24yrs of moi - they dont know what Luo presidency looks like - except from Uganda and South Sudan...it doesnt look pretty.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:37:04 PM

Nyanzans are funny , They think they can spin......
Kenyans know Nyanzans as Violent people. In 2007 the tried using Violencev to enter into power

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 07:32:36 PM
If 2022 turn violent - remember Kalenjin warriors will use today event to justify attacking innocent Luos.It happen to Gusii in 2007 when idiotic Nyachae attacked Ruto. Lots of Gusii suffered for nothing.

Anybody attacking Ruto I keep saying is endangering their people. Luhya if you join the bandwagon - then  your people will suffer greatly.

Just imagine if somoene injure Ruto now - how many Luos in Eldoret or Kericho will be killed??

Immediately Nyachae injured Ruto - the same day Kipisigis blocked Kisii cars - and stoned innocent Gusii.

This is NOT A JOKING MATTER. This election I keep saying is NOT a JOKE. Small mistakes like this spark tribal violence. In Rwanda the killing of president sparked a genocide that killed 800,000 people.

Quote from: Kadudu on November 10, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
Kesho we will have another day. Not even one injury was reported. You are making a mountain out of an anthill. :D :D :D

Pundit this was stagemanaged. You started threats on Kikuyu, Gusii, Luo and all before one stone thrown. Which presidential candidate hunt vote in Kondele at this time? Rail didnt go deep Eldoret for vote hunting. Murkonmen asking Kenyatta 1969. When did Jomo go Kondele to hunt votes? When he went Mathare he got what he wanted.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:39:32 PM

In ayears time it will be occupied by a Geman, so start Blaming GEMA now on the muggins. This logic is skewed...
Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 11, 2021, 12:10:03 PM
Stage managed or provoked? Which threats. I am political pundit. I analyze things. If you think Ruto stage managed it - you need to provide evidence - Ruto paid XYZ - and all that.

It more plausible to say this was provoked but Ruto remember is not a coward who will be afraid to go to Kondele or Kibera...Kwenda lazima aende.



If Kibera people touch him; then you've touched a live wire.

Quote from: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
Pundit this was stagemanaged. You started threats on Kikuyu, Gusii, Luo and all before one stone thrown. Which presidential candidate hunt vote in Kondele at this time? Rail didnt go deep Eldoret for vote hunting. Murkonmen asking Kenyatta 1969. When did Jomo go Kondele to hunt votes? When he went Mathare he got what he wanted.

Kondele stone blamed on Raila because Kisumu is his area. How about Karen mugging? Hasola?

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-11-10-uhurus-office-had-40-officials-registered-for-cop26-in-glasgow/

In Summary
At 312, Kenya had the 6th largest national delegation after Brazil (479), Turkey (376), DR Congo (373), Ghana (337) and Russia (312).
The Presidency also had 13 more individuals on the list as part of Deputy President's wife Rachel Ruto's delegation.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 11, 2021, 07:39:16 PM
You Tumbinizing me and I'm no Wheelbarondo.
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: Kadudu on November 12, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Tell that to the survivors of Kiambaa Church massacre.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:37:04 PM

Nyanzans are funny , They think they can spin......
Kenyans know Nyanzans as Violent people. In 2007 the tried using Violencev to enter into power
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 12, 2021, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 10, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
This is actually the main reason why Raila has not become PORK - people fear the Luo intolerance will be insufferable.
Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 10, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
These Raila supporters are playing into Rutos hands.
This will only strengethen the myth that Raila supporters are Violent and a Raila Presidency God forbid will only alienate them from good things.
Funny how Raila is well received in Rutos strongholds of Mt Kenya , Rift Valley and North Eastern but Nyanza cannot reciprocate.
Shauri yao....

Which Kondele Sugoi branch mugs people in Karen?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Pundit on November 12, 2021, 08:11:12 PM
People dont fear to be mugged. They fear obnoxious proud jaluos sucking oxygen from them - Jaluo say serikali wacha ikojoe. These are some of the real issues that you dont want to confront.
Quote from: GeeMail on November 12, 2021, 03:23:14 PM
Which Kondele Sugoi branch mugs people in Karen?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: GeeMail on November 12, 2021, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on November 12, 2021, 08:11:12 PM
People dont fear to be mugged. They fear obnoxious proud jaluos sucking oxygen from them - Jaluo say serikali wacha ikojoe. These are some of the real issues that you dont want to confront.
Quote from: GeeMail on November 12, 2021, 03:23:14 PM
Which Kondele Sugoi branch mugs people in Karen?

24 years Kondele in State House?
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: audacityofhope on November 13, 2021, 05:51:19 AM
@nowayhaha lives in an alternative universe where he makes things up, despite historical facts on record, often/even to the chagrin of would be ally @Pundito .... not shocked :o
Quote from: Kadudu on November 12, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Tell that to the survivors of Kiambaa Church massacre.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:37:04 PM

Nyanzans are funny , They think they can spin......
Kenyans know Nyanzans as Violent people. In 2007 the tried using Violencev to enter into power
Title: Re: Raila throw stones at Ruto in Kondele
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 13, 2021, 06:36:48 AM
Quote from: audacityofhope on November 13, 2021, 05:51:19 AM
@nowayhaha lives in an alternative universe where he makes things up, despite historical facts on record, often/even to the chagrin of would be ally @Pundito .... not shocked :o
Quote from: Kadudu on November 12, 2021, 10:34:37 AM
Tell that to the survivors of Kiambaa Church massacre.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on November 11, 2021, 05:37:04 PM

Nyanzans are funny , They think they can spin......
Kenyans know Nyanzans as Violent people. In 2007 the tried using Violencev to enter into power
Kiambaa church massacre is as a result of NO RAILA NO PEACE.