Nipate
Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 24, 2021, 12:15:33 PM
-
As we go for 2022 - Luhyas should realize that they could be new kikuyus if civil war was to erupt in rift valley - there are millions of luhyas living with Nandis - in Eldoret, Uasin Gishu and Tranzoia.
Such kind of actions are likely to spark tribal wars.
-
Baluhya too peace loving to be hated. No ethnic group is so open to marriage in all directions like Baluhya. Your conclusion is very wrong. Any political intolerance is not to be tolerated. Baluhya also known for giving out their votes to all candidates, even when one of their own is running for ttop office.
-
Yes turned out to be luos.My brother is this Saturday taking dowry to kakamega
-
Seems Biden told ufol something which is forcing Chinkororo to play PR.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-10-24-eight-arrested-as-matiangi-condemns-ruto-tour-disruption/
-
I am suprised too. You can bet the Americans will be blunt to them. I think Uhuru and Chinkroro are starting to read NIS intelligence report that Kenya is hurtling towards a 2007 repeat. Uhuru instead of spending time in Bahamas - will find himself back at Hague. This time he wont be luckly. Kenya too could be unlucky and go full civil war mode.
This election haitaki jokes. Especially from any community that has it's diaspora in rift valley...just stay away from touching Ruto...kalenjin are not going to entertain any violence or rigging against wsr. The leverage they have is the millions of diaspora of other communities living amongst them.
Seems Biden told ufol something which is forcing Chinkororo to play PR.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-10-24-eight-arrested-as-matiangi-condemns-ruto-tour-disruption/
-
I think the 2022 elections will be the most peaceful if the Uhuru government stays fair before and a few days during the handover. In a fair election, DP will concede and throw full support to the winner; likewise, should he win, he will graciously demand support from competitors. Peace, effectiveness, and integrity are DP's core values that are not negotiable. I'm sure it will permeate during elections and beyond his presidency should he emerge victoriously.
-
There has never been fairness in kenyas elections why do you want it now?
-
People demanding fairness now believed they will always benefit from an unfair system.
Now it is threats of violence if the elections are not fair.
There has never been fairness in kenyas elections why do you want it now?
-
Who told you not own arrows and bows :)
People demanding fairness now believed they will always benefit from an unfair system.
Now it is threats of violence if the elections are not fair.
-
You sound like someone with a close ear to DP. Ruto has been very clear about Peace and Unity. 2022 elections is a foregone issue.
Matiangi are realising very late that even the violence route wont work. Next is to accept the inevitable. I think he has settled for a lesser seat most probably Governor Seat after BBI failed.
I think the 2022 elections will be the most peaceful if the Uhuru government stays fair before and a few days during the handover. In a fair election, DP will concede and throw full support to the winner; likewise, should he win, he will graciously demand support from competitors. Peace, effectiveness, and integrity are DP's core values that are not negotiable. I'm sure it will permeate during elections and beyond his presidency should he emerge victoriously.
-
Police officers in Busia have arrested eight suspects in connection to the chaos that broke up during a visit by H.E the Deputy President Dr. William Ruto,
Fredrick Okoth,
Reuben Barasa,
Moses Oridi,
Friday Ouma,
Michael Omondi Alwando,
George Odongo,
David Ouma and Wejuli Shalmin from Suna West cousin to Junnet Mohamed were arrested in connection with the offenses. They are in custody at Busia Police Station pending their arraignment in court to answer to charges of malicious damage to properties, incitement to Violence, creating disturbance.
-
Paper tigers kule transmara Maasai’s sent them to IDP camp mishales not withstanding.
With the mishales they were kicked out of mau forest.
Who told you not own arrows and bows :)
People demanding fairness now believed they will always benefit from an unfair system.
Now it is threats of violence if the elections are not fair.
-
At least Maasai are also armed and if they were big tribe like kalenjin - gov would think twice before it rigged a maasai. That is leverage Luos do not enjoy. Your reputation for stone throwing lasting one afternoon allowed Kibaki to rig Raila out and allowed for many Luos to be murdered by gov since 1969 assisination of Tom Mboya. That the prize to pay for being cowardly. Imagine if you brought knifes, guns, spears and grenade everytime they touch one too many Luos. The gov will respect the Luos more. Or like Somalia or Ethiopia - everyone brought big guns - and fought.
Paper tigers kule transmara Maasai’s sent them to IDP camp mishales not withstanding.
With the mishales they were kicked out of mau forest.
-
Keep talking you primitive forest dweller, Remember it’s very young Luo men who chased moi from statehouse in 1982 the dictator went to hide in the maize plantation.
How come you never brought your big guns out when you were kicked out of the mau by Tobiko and Natembea ?
You need brains not violence.
-
The coup lasted less than 24hours; Moi lasted 24yrs in power; Kalenjin are hunting for big prize; Ruto told Mau folks to relax. Once he is power; We will fix Mau; Peasant will be given money to buy Maasai land - and eventually Maasai will see governorship in Viusasa.
Let see if next year Raila will finally go in - or Kalenjin will make it 35yrs - plus 22yrs as DPORK/VP. The only time a kalenjin was neither PORK nor DPORK in fact is 13yrs.
Keep talking you primitive forest dweller, Remember it’s very young Luo men who chased moi from statehouse in 1982 the dictator went to hide in the maize plantation.
How come you never brought your big guns out when you were kicked out of the mau by Tobiko and Natembea ?
You need brains not violence.
-
Punda's anti Luo diatribes should be understood as dog whistles intended for Okuyus - "see I hate/revile Jaluos more than you, please vote for our man". Cynical, craven attempt at scoring political points. How low can he go?
-
In other threads I support luos..you see i flow with truth.You are saying I hate luos Nowayaha says I hate kikuyus.I hate lies.
-
You are just a Nyayoist. Nyayoist believed in Kalenjin Supremacy and to safeguard it had to keep Luo and Kikuyu in check.
The Nyayoist in you seems to have been shaped up by your environment and the schools you attended.
Sometimes you dont even notice when your Nyayoism is taking place.
In other threads I support luos..you see i flow with truth.You are saying I hate luos Nowayaha says I hate kikuyus.I hate lies.
-
How when I was brought up supporting kibaki and hating nyayo.In our sitting room for most 90s till very recently was huge kibaki picture.I am definitely proud kalenjin but I hate MOI totally n completely..I can never be nyayoist
-
Mostly what influences a child is the environment .You parents might have been Kibaki diehard supporters but you mirror your environment hence why your bro is a Raila loyalist
RV even calling yourself Rift Valley Pundit where as we dont a region calles Rift Valley is a reflection of the Nyayoism in you. Why not call your self Bomet Pundit.
You are a fierce Kalenjin defender . Reason why it was easy for you to switch from Kibaki to Raila in a flip of a second is because ou felt Kibaki had tone down Kalenjin Supremacy and once you realised Raila too was fighting a fellow Kalenjin you switched to Ruto who you think will be Kalenjin President.
How when I was brought up supporting kibaki and hating nyayo.In our sitting room for most 90s till very recently was huge kibaki picture.I am definitely proud kalenjin but I hate MOI totally n completely..I can never be nyayoist
-
You're crazy indeed I took this moniker wayback in 2002 and I have kept it ..I don't change or mutate because I don't eat a lot of words..i think before posting.You are really scared of Rift valley.Its very funny when you accuse others of being tribal while this your first time ever supporting anon Kikuyu.If I was kalenjin supremacist I would have been kanu guy at some point.Kibaki and narc messed up a chance to deal with corruption and tribalism.Ruto is definitely the best guy around and I have no apologies to make for supporting him..I can never support Gideon MOI.
-
Keep talking you primitive forest dweller, Remember it’s very young Luo men who chased moi from statehouse in 1982 the dictator went to hide in the maize plantation.
How come you never brought your big guns out when you were kicked out of the mau by Tobiko and Natembea ?
You need brains not violence.
Good point,Pundit is begging for violence but 22 should it appear it will be solely in kalenjin RV. Only the madoa doa there will be affected,other areas like turkana,samburu,pokot,kajiado,narok etc won't see any action.This eventually will lead to vaporisation on the Kalenjin polity.
-
How I am begging for violence? How are Kalenjin begging violence? You see Raila went right to Eldoret - Ruto's own home county - and had a peaceful meeting.
If you hate violence - then like me - you need to forewarn so you can forestall - you need to warn Matiangi and his security forces to do their job - you need to let IEBC do a clean job - then your lady Koome need to stand up like Magara for justice.
Once we have free and fair election from now on - Ruto loses - it will be okay. But if Kalenjin feel that Ruto has been unfairly rigged - there will be a big war. Those are just facts.
Good point,Pundit is begging for violence but 22 should it appear it will be solely in kalenjin RV. Only the madoa doa there will be affected,other areas like turkana,samburu,pokot,kajiado,narok etc won't see any action.This eventually will lead to vaporisation on the Kalenjin polity.
-
Even Ruto was just the other day in Kisumu and got a rousing welcome. Why only advocate for violence when your man is rigged out?
How I am begging for violence? How are Kalenjin begging violence? You see Raila went right to Eldoret - Ruto's own home county - and had a peaceful meeting.
If you hate violence - then like me - you need to forewarn so you can forestall - you need to warn Matiangi and his security forces to do their job - you need to let IEBC do a clean job - then your lady Koome need to stand up like Magara for justice.
Once we have free and fair election from now on - Ruto loses - it will be okay. But if Kalenjin feel that Ruto has been unfairly rigged - there will be a big war. Those are just facts.
-
Yes Kisumu and Migori were great. Busia is a problem - if they were to injure Ruto - it would eventually lead to retaliatory attacks. We saw with Nyachae in 2007 - lots of innocent Gusii suffered from Nyachae nonsense. You cannot attack a leader of a tribe like Kalenjin and expect to go scotfree..youre likely to spark tribal war.
I am NOT advocating for violence. Are you guys naturally daft or this just Ojingaism in full blown mode.
I am political pundit predicting that if Kalenjin feel Ruto has been rigged out - they will unleash violence. It an easy prediction really. It like predicting Kondele and Kibra will erupt if Luos feel Raila has lost unfairly. Except when it come to Ruto - this will be Kalenjin war machine in maize plantation mostly - than in the streets. They will wake up the land grievance monsters - to kick out immigrants communities settled amongst them - they will reactivate border disputes. So they already have an enemy/underlying issue - they are just waiting for the opportunitty.
Understand that Kenya politics is akin to low grade tribal competition....it needs to be managed...so it doesnt become tribal war....especially if leader of war-like community is at it's titular.
Even Ruto was just the other day in Kisumu and got a rousing welcome. Why only advocate for violence when your man is rigged out?