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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 07, 2021, 10:09:34 PM
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I believe JM Mwangi is genuine Mt Kenya hero who can give Raila an ear. The rest are useless.
If that happens - Ruto will have to double down on propaganda - and get Kalonzo or MaDVD
https://cdn.mgazeti.co.ke/image_uploads/1633627121pvJlu8i04zniPRUOL0HHdkAVnCyF811400.jpg
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Majority of Kenyan politicians are complete idiots, why would a genius like Mwangi go for such a lowly seat?
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So Mt Kenya would politically believe on Mwangi more than politicians like Karua. Anyway high IQ manenos .
I believe JM Mwangi is genuine Mt Kenya hero who can give Raila an ear. The rest are useless.
If that happens - Ruto will have to double down on propaganda - and get Kalonzo or MaDVD
https://cdn.mgazeti.co.ke/image_uploads/1633627121pvJlu8i04zniPRUOL0HHdkAVnCyF811400.jpg
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So Mt Kenya would politically believe on Mwangi more than politicians like Karua. Anyway high IQ manenos .
I believe JM Mwangi is genuine Mt Kenya hero who can give Raila an ear. The rest are useless.
If that happens - Ruto will have to double down on propaganda - and get Kalonzo or MaDVD
https://cdn.mgazeti.co.ke/image_uploads/1633627121pvJlu8i04zniPRUOL0HHdkAVnCyF811400.jpg
You have gone totally personal bana.
Anyways elections need to sooner. What the oligarchs in mountain are doing is creating condition s for rigging mzito by creating a false perception that he has backing from mt.kenya.
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How is this personal. Just stating No 1 . I dont think Mt Kenya looks at Mwangi as a politician. I dont take things personal. RV has his opinion very inovative one and righfully so he is entitled to one.
Now lets see if Mwangi will run , If so will congratulate him and tell him he was visonary.
Ive done before with his Trojan horse idea of how Raila can destroy Jubilee and maintain his status as a major contender for Presidency in 2022 . That was spot on.
So Mt Kenya would politically believe on Mwangi more than politicians like Karua. Anyway high IQ manenos .
I believe JM Mwangi is genuine Mt Kenya hero who can give Raila an ear. The rest are useless.
If that happens - Ruto will have to double down on propaganda - and get Kalonzo or MaDVD
https://cdn.mgazeti.co.ke/image_uploads/1633627121pvJlu8i04zniPRUOL0HHdkAVnCyF811400.jpg
You have gone totally personal bana.
Anyways elections need to sooner. What the oligarchs in mountain are doing is creating condition s for rigging mzito by creating a false perception that he has backing from mt.kenya.
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Yes he cannot stand the fact that his IQ is 1/4 mine.
He doesnt know anything including politics.
James Mwangi would be a big threat to Ruto - if Munga would convince him to run especially for PORK - as Raila DPORK - it will still be a threat - but he could as well lose his banking thing that is now firing on all cylinders if he fails.
This is what I wrote in 2019
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=7840.msg67107#msg67107
Ruto planned this well.. trouble some munyas were fell..and will be Keen to square with kiraitu.That leaves us with Embus with speaker seat carrot..I don't think Ruto will retain him if he wins...he will be given another job.. and small boy Prof from stronghold...who will want to cause trouble..but he can be convinced to go for governorship.The only threat was PK and Martha but they are kaput.Sort of GEMA getting a hero like James Mwangi to politics..Mwangi Kiunjuri has it.He has GEMA diaspora votes..those are like 1m plus...about 25% of rift valley, he has nyeri and kirinyanga.We have small Muranga problem with Was Iria..but the milk man is small baby in politics.Kiambu know they have had their 10yrs with Uhuru except for the deluded Moses kuria
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=8714.msg78037#msg78037
Only someone like Equity James Mwangi (genuine GEMA hero) would worry Ruto - otherwise PK or whoever else is waste of time.
You have gone totally personal bana.
Anyways elections need to sooner. What the oligarchs in mountain are doing is creating condition s for rigging mzito by creating a false perception that he has backing from mt.kenya.
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Yes Mwangi would be the economic answer to hustler and bottoms up.
The Mt Kenya mafia has never openly ran scared to appear on TV daily politicking. It is either senility seeing they don't have even sons who can do the mafioso work in the background or it is falling uthamakistan entitlement thus need one of theirs as president to lower their looming caskets.
They seem to have given up on ufool so serious shifts expected.
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Yes they know without gov patronage and cryonism - they will be go under next year. The like of Trancentury way. Only Kenya indians and arabs and whites have serious business that do not depend on gov. This is great thing when people go into manufacturing and such - that target the general populace - selling soap and such. But service sectors - insurance/banking/etc- almost depend on gov goodwill. Majority of them if a regulator does their job - would be shut down.
They are freaked out completely - they are between a devil and hard place. Raila as PORK will be something else. Watalia either way. Ruto has no time for old reputation. He will want to create new elite and wealth. Raila will kick them just like they kicked him out from statehouse - about a week after Kibaki.
It's payback time. Both Rs are essentially cut from the same clothe - both very forceful characters - that as PORK will not waste a day to extert their authority.
Yes Mwangi would be the economic answer to hustler and bottoms up.
The Mt Kenya mafia has never openly ran scared to appear on TV daily politicking. It is either senility seeing they don't have even sons who can do the mafioso work in the background or it is falling uthamakistan entitlement thus need one of theirs as president to lower their looming caskets.
They seem to have given up on ufool so serious shifts expected.
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How did they survive 24yrs of being shut out of the govt by Moi? All these people have one thing in common, they know Raila�s presidency will mean that the country is open for business, money and investment will be pouring from everywhere akin to Kibaki era. Looto is an international pariah who can hardly step out the border except to see his thieving buddies. Five yrs of wheelbarrownomics and Looto friends and Kenya will be back to Stone Age. Kikuyus are not Kalenjins who collapsed back to goathearding a few months after Moi was over, the push for Ruto�s presidency is nothing but Kalenjins wanting the good old days, it�s nostalgia. To some people, this is life or death, this is why this site has become monotonous with us waking up to so many Looto�s posts it�s nauseating. I will save you from all the teeth gnashing and the need to prove to the rest of the world how intelligent you are, it�s comes out as some form of insecurity. This election will be worn in the second round by the person who is able to form the largest coalition, in fact, this is the first time in Kenyan history that the president will come from a minority party in parliament and senate. It will force a lot of horse trading and negotiating. Looto better be prepared for the most expensive campaign of his live, money will be coming to Raila from all over the world, it�s going to be a dog fight.
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I dont think you have recovered from Moi tarimbo and Ruto is about to get started.
How did they survive 24yrs of being shut out of the govt by Moi? All these people have one thing in common, they know Raila�s presidency will mean that the country is open for business, money and investment will be pouring from everywhere akin to Kibaki era. Looto is an international pariah who can hardly step out the border except to see his thieving buddies. Five yrs of wheelbarrownomics and Looto friends and Kenya will be back to Stone Age. Kikuyus are not Kalenjins who collapsed back to goathearding a few months after Moi was over, the push for Ruto�s presidency is nothing but Kalenjins wanting the good old days, it�s nostalgia. To some people, this is life or death, this is why this site has become monotonous with us waking up to so many Looto�s posts it�s nauseating. I will save you from all the teeth gnashing and the need to prove to the rest of the world how intelligent you are, it�s comes out as some form of insecurity. This election will be worn in the second round by the person who is able to form the largest coalition, in fact, this is the first time in Kenyan history that the president will come from a minority party in parliament and senate. It will force a lot of horse trading and negotiating. Looto better be prepared for the most expensive campaign of his live, money will be coming to Raila from all over the world, it�s going to be a dog fight.
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Look likely JM will top Raila running mate. I wonder what Kalonzo and MaDVD will do. With JM Raila will have a real shot in dividing Mt kenya votes. I dont see any of the other getting any traction.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-10-08-equity-boss-mwangi-peter-kenneth-lead-railas-running-mate-list/
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Raila is the next Kenyan president, majority of Kenyans are not going to squander this moment in history for some thieve wheelbarrow nonsense. I think you still have the Moi error hang ups, you still think with the new constitution and independent judiciary that Looto can tarimbo anyone, Kenyans are way more enlightened to go back to Moi error. I can tell how jealous and bitter you are to see successful kikuyu businesses, you still live in the Moi mantra of if you cannot compete, exterminate.
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I can tell you for free that this election will see the lowest kikuyu turnouts ever, you will be lucky to hit 60%. I have my ear on the ground, maybe it�s too early but I haven�t talked to anyone who is terribly excited about it. Raila phobia and derangement is what brought out people to vote, this is not the prevailing sentiment in the mountain anymore.
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Your own Kikuyu has been president for 20yrs now - and yet you complain more bitterly than I did during Moi era.Combined with Kenyatta Snr - 35yrs - almost your age - but you're still unhappy.
Raila is the next Kenyan president, majority of Kenyans are not going to squander this moment in history for some thieve wheelbarrow nonsense. I think you still have the Moi error hang ups, you still think with the new constitution and independent judiciary that Looto can tarimbo anyone, Kenyans are way more enlightened to go back to Moi error. I can tell how jealous and bitter you are to see successful kikuyu businesses, you still live in the Moi mantra of if you cannot compete, exterminate.
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I agree the turnout will be reduced - but I think by 10% - it will be at national average around 75-77 percent. There is still a lot to vote for in the other 5 boxes.
Let see how the registration numbers look like.
But if you think Ruto needs Mt kenya voters to register and vote in such number. THINK AGAIN.
MOi got 40 percent in 1997 - without a single kikuyu or Luo vote almost.
Kenya ni Kubwa.
I can tell you for free that this election will see the lowest kikuyu turnouts ever, you will be lucky to hit 60%. I have my ear on the ground, maybe it�s too early but I haven�t talked to anyone who is terribly excited about it. Raila phobia and derangement is what brought out people to vote, this is not the prevailing sentiment in the mountain anymore.
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As long as Raila will be on the ballot , Mt Kenya will come out in droves to vote against him . A ritual they have been doing since 2007.
If he decides to sit out . Mt Kenya will also sit out.
I can tell you for free that this election will see the lowest kikuyu turnouts ever, you will be lucky to hit 60%. I have my ear on the ground, maybe it�s too early but I haven�t talked to anyone who is terribly excited about it. Raila phobia and derangement is what brought out people to vote, this is not the prevailing sentiment in the mountain anymore.
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Does it really matter the tribe of the President ? Do you know even Luo die hards believe Ruto is a worker in comparison to Raila.
Your own Kikuyu has been president for 20yrs now - and yet you complain more bitterly than I did during Moi era.Combined with Kenyatta Snr - 35yrs - almost your age - but you're still unhappy.
Raila is the next Kenyan president, majority of Kenyans are not going to squander this moment in history for some thieve wheelbarrow nonsense. I think you still have the Moi error hang ups, you still think with the new constitution and independent judiciary that Looto can tarimbo anyone, Kenyans are way more enlightened to go back to Moi error. I can tell how jealous and bitter you are to see successful kikuyu businesses, you still live in the Moi mantra of if you cannot compete, exterminate.
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But if you think Ruto needs Mt kenya voters to register and vote in such number. THINK AGAIN.
Unlike you Ruto practices real politics. He knows he need the Kikuyu vote and also the rest of Kenyan votes.
Getting 50% +1 is not an easy achievement.
In 2013 we knew that If Uhuru and Ruto dont work together it was not possible to win Presidency.In 2022 Ruto needs Mt Kenya to win elections . He knows it hence reason he has camped there for the last 4 years.
MOi got 40 percent in 1997 - without a single kikuyu or Luo vote almost.
Kenya ni Kubwa.
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https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/i-m-the-political-supremo-of-mt-kenya-declares-william-ruto-3578272
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Raila should just withdraw or not even campaign. Then strategically support ruto after he wins. This will teach these Gema leeches a lesson. Right now all central politicians and rich do not want to campaign for raila. They want him to stop ruto so that they can find a way to edge him out. Raila should flatly reject this. Kenyans deserve ruto.
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That will be a Killer, Ill be honest Handshake was also a killer.
Raila should just withdraw or not even campaign. Then strategically support ruto after he wins. This will teach these Gema leeches a lesson. Right now all central politicians and rich do not want to campaign for raila. They want him to stop ruto so that they can find a way to edge him out. Raila should flatly reject this. Kenyans deserve ruto.
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I will be you that James Mwangi and those other Muranga tycoons would not take that job. They would take the job only if they are deputizing a fellow Mountaineer. You know they conduct business in vernacular.
I believe JM Mwangi is genuine Mt Kenya hero who can give Raila an ear. The rest are useless.
If that happens - Ruto will have to double down on propaganda - and get Kalonzo or MaDVD
https://cdn.mgazeti.co.ke/image_uploads/1633627121pvJlu8i04zniPRUOL0HHdkAVnCyF811400.jpg
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It depends on your expectation of president and gok. If you like me expect little; you will not be disappointed so much;
Does it really matter the tribe of the President ? Do you know even Luo die hards believe Ruto is a worker in comparison to Raila.
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Yeah its a very risk move - they are new money - gained from kibaki and uhuru regime - they are yet to understand that in business you play the middle ground - their wealth will be crushed soon. The old money knows how to play politics...behind the scenes...and you play both sides.
Now these ones - either R or R will destroy them. Politicians do not like competition in their space.
I will be you that James Mwangi and those other Muranga tycoons would not take that job. They would take the job only if they are deputizing a fellow Mountaineer. You know they conduct business in vernacular.
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Roughly I expect Mt kenya to be 25 percent of the vote when voter registration is completed. You have 75 percent out there. Remove Luos. You still got 65 percent. You still got enough to remove Kambas or Luhya....and still nick elections at 50 percent.
Mt kenya now is nearly equal to pastoralist population - minus kalenjin.
Bottomline - they are many paths to win PORK.
A good politician always has plan A B C D.
Moi won twice in 1990s despite not getting support from populous tribes. He did that by assembling small tribes into a big punch.
But if you think Ruto needs Mt kenya voters to register and vote in such number. THINK AGAIN.
Unlike you Ruto practices real politics. He knows he need the Kikuyu vote and also the rest of Kenyan votes.
Getting 50% +1 is not an easy achievement.
In 2013 we knew that If Uhuru and Ruto dont work together it was not possible to win Presidency.In 2022 Ruto needs Mt Kenya to win elections . He knows it hence reason he has camped there for the last 4 years.
MOi got 40 percent in 1997 - without a single kikuyu or Luo vote almost.
Kenya ni Kubwa.