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Title: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 26, 2021, 08:09:04 PM
1) Kill ODM - rebrand it - it's like KANU - in GEMA - it evokes very bad memories.

Just find something else - change ODM name to something - like Kenya Mpya or AZIMIO.

2) In the new party - replace all ODM Luos head - with Mt Kenya politicians - given new party Chair to even SK Macharia. Tell those Luos following you to stay home in Siaya - Orengo and company add zero value - to your visit outside Nyanza. Do you see Ruto still tagging along kalenjin...kazi yao imeisha.

3) Change message - BBI was good - Leave this Tialala and Tibim - Chungwa Moja - this too evoke bad memories outside the converted. Find new catch slogan....bila hiyo...enda Nyumbani. Tailala NASA hao - that is too last year. Steal even ONE KENYA ONE PEOPLE - something catchy new - for new season.

4) Basically REBRAND completely - change even your clothing :). I suggest you start wearing suits   - or going even radically for Nigeria ankara :)

Maybe you should stop coloring your hair black - maybe grey haired Raila will sell :) - watu wataona he is harmless old man about to die - which essentially is your message to GEMA>

With this you may improve from 2% to even 20 percent - and then hopefully you can run back to NASA and regroup it - before it's too late - because Kambas are critical there too.

Hapa the ground is very hard  - very hard - I give you 5-10% with lots of help from Uhuru - who has been depleted - he is probably going to hide in statehouse.
https://www.facebook.com/gordon.opiyo/videos/584718466213348/
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on September 26, 2021, 09:37:15 PM
I call you recent gleeful posts  premature ejaculations  :D

We will win, it will become clear to you a few months before the elections.

Then it will be back to posting threats and chalkface warriors.  :D
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 26, 2021, 10:00:05 PM
We are about 10 months to election!
When are you waiting to unleash the magic?
Next month is mass vote registration.
Then Jan-March is MP/Governors/Senators - Nomination.
April is going to be mini-election - party primaries.
May-June - nailing the coalition for presidential nomination.
I call you recent gleeful posts  premature ejaculations  :D

We will win, it will become clear to you a few months before the elections.

Then it will be back to posting threats and chalkface warriors.  :D
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: vooke on September 27, 2021, 07:15:10 AM
Good points

Kalenjin hounds are only good for attacking Uhunye

But Babu atatoa wapi Mount Kenya Mpigs?
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 27, 2021, 07:23:40 AM
?s=21 Ageless babu is the best president for this moment in Kenyan history. Ruto is still relatively young, use the next five years of Raila presidency to repair his international image and lose the mwizi tag. Babu for president, the international community is begging for it.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:04:32 AM
Sio Lazima Mt kenya - I am sure he can find Mps supporting him outside Luo Nyanza - OOPS there is no one.
Simba Arati - only Gusii Mp supporting him.
Two Maasai Mps and a senator - Ole kina, Ole Kenta and Memusi
Mijikenda - I think he still have two colourless ones - Senator Madzayo has left Baba - Juma boy son in Kwale is MIA.
Hassan Joho and Nassir son - Mombasa - that would be good for the image.
Busia - he has majority - but colourless.

Baba imekwisha lakini bado he can get 10 Non-Luo MPs to go round with - but he has to pay retainer.

Good points

Kalenjin hounds are only good for attacking Uhunye

But Babu atatoa wapi Mount Kenya Mpigs?
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:07:30 AM
I think that trick was tried in 2013 - and it failed. Uhuru was crimes against humanity indicted person and yet won.  International community gani met - and endorsed Raila - and where :). EAC resolution? AU resolution number? UN resolution? ACP resolution? South-South resolution? Commonwealth resolution? IGAD resolution?

Babu for president, the international community is begging for it.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 27, 2021, 09:20:53 AM

Raila just needs yo apologize to Mt Kenya, for betraying Kibaki , antagonizing Mt Kenya for the last 20+ years and most importantly leading P.E.V.

When he says naomba msamaha like Moi did then he will really improve in Mt Kenya or rather Mt Kenyans wont come out in droves to vote for Ruto(against Raila) otherwise let him continue dreaming.

1) Kill ODM - rebrand it - it's like KANU - in GEMA - it evokes very bad memories.

Just find something else - change ODM name to something - like Kenya Mpya or AZIMIO.

2) In the new party - replace all ODM Luos head - with Mt Kenya politicians - given new party Chair to even SK Macharia. Tell those Luos following you to stay home in Siaya - Orengo and company add zero value - to your visit outside Nyanza. Do you see Ruto still tagging along kalenjin...kazi yao imeisha.

3) Change message - BBI was good - Leave this Tialala and Tibim - Chungwa Moja - this too evoke bad memories outside the converted. Find new catch slogan....bila hiyo...enda Nyumbani. Tailala NASA hao - that is too last year. Steal even ONE KENYA ONE PEOPLE - something catchy new - for new season.

4) Basically REBRAND completely - change even your clothing :). I suggest you start wearing suits   - or going even radically for Nigeria ankara :)

Maybe you should stop coloring your hair black - maybe grey haired Raila will sell :) - watu wataona he is harmless old man about to die - which essentially is your message to GEMA>

With this you may improve from 2% to even 20 percent - and then hopefully you can run back to NASA and regroup it - before it's too late - because Kambas are critical there too.

Hapa the ground is very hard  - very hard - I give you 5-10% with lots of help from Uhuru - who has been depleted - he is probably going to hide in statehouse.
https://www.facebook.com/gordon.opiyo/videos/584718466213348/
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:33:36 AM
What? apology for betraying kibaki - hiyo ni bhangi mbichi. Kibaki betrayed Raila.

Apology for PEV 2008 yes. ODM was definitely central in anti-kikuyu campaigns in since 2005 to 2018 - and that played huge part in targetting of Mt Kenya communities all over the country.


Raila just needs yo apologize to Mt Kenya, for betraying Kibaki , antagonizing Mt Kenya for the last 20+ years and most importantly leading P.E.V.

When he says naomba msamaha like Moi did then he will really improve in Mt Kenya or rather Mt Kenyans wont come out in droves to vote for Ruto(against Raila) otherwise let him continue dreaming.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 27, 2021, 09:34:44 AM
Egg and chicken.
So who between Uhuru and Ruto betrayed the other ?

Yes apology for betraying kibaki - hiyo ni bhangi mbichi. Kibaki betrayed Raila.
Apology for PEV 2008 yes.

Raila just needs yo apologize to Mt Kenya, for betraying Kibaki , antagonizing Mt Kenya for the last 20+ years and most importantly leading P.E.V.

When he says naomba msamaha like Moi did then he will really improve in Mt Kenya or rather Mt Kenyans wont come out in droves to vote for Ruto(against Raila) otherwise let him continue dreaming.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
Dude your moral compass is messed up. OF COURSE UHURU betrayed Ruto. How can a DPORK betray PORK? How can blacks be racist? You can only betray from a power point. A weak person cannot betray a strong person.

 When Ruto fight back against betrayal - that doesnt become betrayal. When Raila fought back - it didnt mean betrayal.

The only difference Ruto has kept it personal with Uhuru - and has not involved Mt kenya.

That is where Raila went wrong - he made Kibaki betrayal -a Mt Kenya betrayal. This where Raila needs to apologize.

Egg and chicken.
So who between Uhuru and Ruto betrayed the other ?
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: vooke on September 27, 2021, 09:41:45 AM
Egg and chicken.
So who between Uhuru and Ruto betrayed the other ?

Yes apology for betraying kibaki - hiyo ni bhangi mbichi. Kibaki betrayed Raila.
Apology for PEV 2008 yes.

Raila just needs yo apologize to Mt Kenya, for betraying Kibaki , antagonizing Mt Kenya for the last 20+ years and most importantly leading P.E.V.

When he says naomba msamaha like Moi did then he will really improve in Mt Kenya or rather Mt Kenyans wont come out in droves to vote for Ruto(against Raila) otherwise let him continue dreaming.

 Mutai Ngunyi and or Mama Ngina probably persuaded Uhunye that Ruto was dispensable.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 27, 2021, 11:11:23 AM
Raila will be the 5th, learn to start accepting the inevitable, it will be less painful when it happens.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 27, 2021, 02:52:56 PM
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Kichwa on September 27, 2021, 02:57:12 PM
Very true and the entire country will become used to it as we approach elections.  Even Pundit will accept the inevitable when evidence becomes overwhelming.  It took him a while to accept the handshake but I am sure he has now accepted that RAO is not being played by Ouru and that he is the 5th PORK. Now we are in the process of formalizing and rubber stamping the decision that has already been made.

Raila will be the 5th, learn to start accepting the inevitable, it will be less painful when it happens.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 03:04:57 PM
Goodluck.
Very true and the entire country will become used to it as we approach elections.  Even Pundit will accept the inevitable when evidence becomes overwhelming.  It took him a while to accept the handshake but I am sure he has now accepted that RAO is not being played by Ouru and that he is the 5th PORK. Now we are in the process of formalizing and rubber stamping the decision that has already been made.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
At least Kanini showed up.Babu is trying - he might move from 2% to 10% if he keep at it.
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 27, 2021, 03:37:28 PM
RV, The common denominator in Kenyan politics is betrayal , This has been widely covered to an extent where Joe Khamisi even wrote a book called Politics of Betrayal.
FYI , Raila betrayal of his comrades goes back to more than 20 years. I will highlight as from his Ford K days.
He betrayed Wamalwa in 1994-95, Betrayed Moi in 2002 after being made a Minister and enriching himself, Betrayed Nyachae in 2002 ,Betrayed Kibaki as from 2003, Betrayed Kalonzo in 2007 , Betrayed Ruto as from 2008. Betrayed Kalonzo and Mudavadi with the handshake in 2018 This was the epitome of betrayal he even refused to give them their monetary rights .
Raila is synonymous to betrayal its only about time before he betrays Uhuru , but then again Uhuru comes second on betrayals .

Now why I brought up Uhuru and Ruto . This was for you to compare Kibaki and Raila. UhuRutos first term was a perfect example of how Kibaki and Raila should have worked. Imstead Raila being power hungry wanted to usurp Kibaki presidential powers ans remder him impotent. When Kibaki was hospitalized and riding on wheel chair , Raila was calling press conferences  and doimg rallies while belittling Kibaki. Ruto on the other hand took ot with stride was patient and whenever media tried to put him in longerheads with Uhuru he would always say Uhuru is the boss , he is right and at liberty to run the government the way he wants. This is partly the reason he is sleep walking to Presidency in Aug 2022. If he would have gone Railas way be assured he wouldnt become the President.
Now Ruto also had a golden opportunity to do a Raila im the first term and go against Uhuru come 2017 by betraying Uhuru ans joimimg hands with Raila. Mt Kenya phobia was all time high but he knew his role and played it well. Orengo has attested to Rutos loyalty , Raila doesnt posses thos virtue.
Its a common saying name me one Major politician Raila has never betrayed.



Dude your moral compass is messed up. OF COURSE UHURU betrayed Ruto. How can a DPORK betray PORK? How can blacks be racist? You can only betray from a power point. A weak person cannot betray a strong person.

 When Ruto fight back against betrayal - that doesnt become betrayal. When Raila fought back - it didnt mean betrayal.

The only difference Ruto has kept it personal with Uhuru - and has not involved Mt kenya.

That is where Raila went wrong - he made Kibaki betrayal -a Mt Kenya betrayal. This where Raila needs to apologize.

Egg and chicken.
So who between Uhuru and Ruto betrayed the other ?
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 27, 2021, 03:41:33 PM
In Kiambu yes, not in the other counties.There is a section of Kiambu people who are liberal , In 1992 they voted for Muite in Ford Kenya and in 1997 they voted for George Nyanja in NDP.
The other counties Raila phobia is too much to erase it in this generation.

At least Kanini showed up.Babu is trying - he might move from 2% to 10% if he keep at it.
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 03:48:47 PM
Yes betrayal is the name of politics - if you will call it that.
I also think you're calling everything including promises betrayal.
Let stick to what was signed or publicly said.
I disagree that Raila betrayed Kibaki.
Kibaki betrayed LDP - Raila, Kalonzo and entire kenya crew - when they signed MOU to do many things - that Kibaki had no intention of implementing.
Raila has betrayed Kalonzo and NASA - despite signing an MOU he wont run again.
Uhuru promised Ruto - to support him publicly- he reneged on it immediately.

Let's leave promises like handshake because Uhuru has always insisted that its has nothing to do with 2022 - Raila cannot cry to say handshake is betrayal.

Yes Raila did not handle his betrayal or mistreatment well with Kibaki- and that is why he is not becoming PORK - and Ruto is sleepwalking.
The same way his father - mishandled his mistreatment by Jomo Kenyatta.
And Moi took it in - like Ruto has done.

Bottomline Raila can never become PORK because he lacks the temperament for PORK.

Raila had two chances - to make it work with Kibaki - and the last one under NARA he screwed it.

RV, The common denominator in Kenyan politics is betrayal , This has been widely covered to an extent where Joe Khamisi even wrote a book called Politics of Betrayal.
FYI , Raila betrayal of his comrades goes back to more than 20 years. I will highlight as from his Ford K days.
He betrayed Wamalwa in 1994-95, Betrayed Moi in 2002 after being made a Minister and enriching himself, Betrayed Nyachae in 2002 ,Betrayed Kibaki as from 2003, Betrayed Kalonzo in 2007 , Betrayed Ruto as from 2008. Betrayed Kalonzo and Mudavadi with the handshake in 2018 This was the epitome of betrayal he even refused to give them their monetary rights .
Raila is synonymous to betrayal its only about time before he betrays Uhuru , but then again Uhuru comes second on betrayals .

Now why I brought up Uhuru and Ruto . This was for you to compare Kibaki and Raila. UhuRutos first term was a perfect example of how Kibaki and Raila should have worked. Imstead Raila being power hungry wanted to usurp Kibaki presidential powers ans remder him impotent. When Kibaki was hospitalized and riding on wheel chair , Raila was calling press conferences  and doimg rallies while belittling Kibaki. Ruto on the other hand took ot with stride was patient and whenever media tried to put him in longerheads with Uhuru he would always say Uhuru is the boss , he is right and at liberty to run the government the way he wants. This is partly the reason he is sleep walking to Presidency in Aug 2022. If he would have gone Railas way be assured he wouldnt become the President.
Now Ruto also had a golden opportunity to do a Raila im the first term and go against Uhuru come 2017 by betraying Uhuru ans joimimg hands with Raila. Mt Kenya phobia was all time high but he knew his role and played it well. Orengo has attested to Rutos loyalty , Raila doesnt posses thos virtue.
Its a common saying name me one Major politician Raila has never betrayed.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 03:56:28 PM
He has got 4 governors - the dare devil ones - Mureithi, Lee,Nyoro and Kimemia - Let see if they will go the whole hog - as the hemorrhage continue.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-four-mt-kenya-governors-pledge-to-rally-region-behind-raila/
In Kiambu yes, not in the other counties.There is a section of Kiambu people who are liberal , In 1992 they voted for Muite in Ford Kenya and in 1997 they voted for George Nyanja in NDP.
The other counties Raila phobia is too much to erase it in this generation.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: GeeMail on September 27, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
Pundit I'm sure you meant pro bono but this misleading advice is pro-porno for sure.;) People selling themselves to highest bidder high priest for few Jirongos.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on September 27, 2021, 04:25:51 PM
Pundit I'm sure you meant pro bono but this misleading advice is pro-porno for sure.;) People selling themselves to highest bidder high priest for few Jirongos.

I desisted from that easy jibe, damnit Geemail  :D

Koech hapana tambua mambo anafikiri frontrunner anashinda mbio, ukifanya harakati mengi na kuwa honga wanainchi haimanishi wewe ni mpenzi wa watu, la.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 27, 2021, 04:26:46 PM
Well the real  dare devils ones are the "Deep state" Mureithi and Kimemia. Nyoro as it was in 2013 will lose he is not popular and Njiru is already negotiating for a position in Rutos Government like his  predecessor. It was telling to see him the other day saying Nakuru demands yo be on the negotiating table like North Eastern and Western.
Murithi was the one approached by Kibakis inner circle to form UDF which was given to Mudavadi. Kimemia then was the powerful Secretary of Cabinet. Funny enough Deep states candidate Mudavadi lost Murithi lost his seat and Kimemia was fired a year later. They have never learnt that its never that easy to influence polktics feom board rooms. Needless to say do you realize all are first time governors. Thats how Mt Kenya politics is retaining a seat is one hell of a . Wataenda tu
Nyoro replaced Waititu who replaced Kabogo
Njiru replaced Mbugua
Murithi replaced Irungu
Kimemia replaced Waithaka.



He has got 4 governors - the dare devil ones - Mureithi, Lee,Nyoro and Kimemia - Let see if they will go the whole hog - as the hemorrhage continue.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-four-mt-kenya-governors-pledge-to-rally-region-behind-raila/
In Kiambu yes, not in the other counties.There is a section of Kiambu people who are liberal , In 1992 they voted for Muite in Ford Kenya and in 1997 they voted for George Nyanja in NDP.
The other counties Raila phobia is too much to erase it in this generation.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 08:58:43 PM
For a moment I was like - who is Njiru. You mean Lee. Yes the four are either under duress from  Uhuru or dont care about 2022. Lee is gone in Nakuru - but it worthy trying to get  NASA tribes there....but huyu his days are pretty numbered.
Well the real  dare devils ones are the "Deep state" Mureithi and Kimemia. Nyoro as it was in 2013 will lose he is not popular and Njiru is already negotiating for a position in Rutos Government like his  predecessor. It was telling to see him the other day saying Nakuru demands yo be on the negotiating table like North Eastern and Western.
Murithi was the one approached by Kibakis inner circle to form UDF which was given to Mudavadi. Kimemia then was the powerful Secretary of Cabinet. Funny enough Deep states candidate Mudavadi lost Murithi lost his seat and Kimemia was fired a year later. They have never learnt that its never that easy to influence polktics feom board rooms. Needless to say do you realize all are first time governors. Thats how Mt Kenya politics is retaining a seat is one hell of a . Wataenda tu
Nyoro replaced Waititu who replaced Kabogo
Njiru replaced Mbugua
Murithi replaced Irungu
Kimemia replaced Waithaka.



He has got 4 governors - the dare devil ones - Mureithi, Lee,Nyoro and Kimemia - Let see if they will go the whole hog - as the hemorrhage continue.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-27-four-mt-kenya-governors-pledge-to-rally-region-behind-raila/
In Kiambu yes, not in the other counties.There is a section of Kiambu people who are liberal , In 1992 they voted for Muite in Ford Kenya and in 1997 they voted for George Nyanja in NDP.
The other counties Raila phobia is too much to erase it in this generation.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 08:59:58 PM
I like the sound of it - but I see your ODMorons are all set and dont need my help; I will be ready with towel for you to wipe your tears very soon.
Pundit I'm sure you meant pro bono but this misleading advice is pro-porno for sure.;) People selling themselves to highest bidder high priest for few Jirongos.
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:14:21 PM
Baba amejaribu karatina. Improving slowly and surely. Robina will emerge from exile at this rate :)
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:16:42 PM
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on September 27, 2021, 09:17:57 PM
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: vooke on October 02, 2021, 08:32:37 AM
Pundito,

Orange is gone :)

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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2021, 10:51:31 AM
That is good start; ODM need to go too; that one evoke deep negative emotion in Mt kenya. ODM should apply for a name change - just find an excuse - and then apply for name change - and rebrand to that blue.
Pundito,

Orange is gone :)

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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2025, 10:49:12 PM

How times change , Now this advice should go to Ruto

1) Kill ODM - rebrand it - it's like KANU - in GEMA - it evokes very bad memories.

Just find something else - change ODM name to something - like Kenya Mpya or AZIMIO.

2) In the new party - replace all ODM Luos head - with Mt Kenya politicians - given new party Chair to even SK Macharia. Tell those Luos following you to stay home in Siaya - Orengo and company add zero value - to your visit outside Nyanza. Do you see Ruto still tagging along kalenjin...kazi yao imeisha.

3) Change message - BBI was good - Leave this Tialala and Tibim - Chungwa Moja - this too evoke bad memories outside the converted. Find new catch slogan....bila hiyo...enda Nyumbani. Tailala NASA hao - that is too last year. Steal even ONE KENYA ONE PEOPLE - something catchy new - for new season.

4) Basically REBRAND completely - change even your clothing :). I suggest you start wearing suits   - or going even radically for Nigeria ankara :)

Maybe you should stop coloring your hair black - maybe grey haired Raila will sell :) - watu wataona he is harmless old man about to die - which essentially is your message to GEMA>

With this you may improve from 2% to even 20 percent - and then hopefully you can run back to NASA and regroup it - before it's too late - because Kambas are critical there too.

Hapa the ground is very hard  - very hard - I give you 5-10% with lots of help from Uhuru - who has been depleted - he is probably going to hide in statehouse.
https://www.facebook.com/gordon.opiyo/videos/584718466213348/
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2025, 10:53:11 PM

Same to Ruto , similar position , he needs to come out and say Mademoni misadvised him he can get 10% of Mt Kenya back. If he sacrifices Ichungwa and his likes as says they mislead him he gets another 10% .Otherwise even Raila will defeat him in Mt Kenya …..


Raila just needs yo apologize to Mt Kenya, for betraying Kibaki , antagonizing Mt Kenya for the last 20+ years and most importantly leading P.E.V.

When he says naomba msamaha like Moi did then he will really improve in Mt Kenya or rather Mt Kenyans wont come out in droves to vote for Ruto(against Raila) otherwise let him continue dreaming.

1) Kill ODM - rebrand it - it's like KANU - in GEMA - it evokes very bad memories.

Just find something else - change ODM name to something - like Kenya Mpya or AZIMIO.

2) In the new party - replace all ODM Luos head - with Mt Kenya politicians - given new party Chair to even SK Macharia. Tell those Luos following you to stay home in Siaya - Orengo and company add zero value - to your visit outside Nyanza. Do you see Ruto still tagging along kalenjin...kazi yao imeisha.

3) Change message - BBI was good - Leave this Tialala and Tibim - Chungwa Moja - this too evoke bad memories outside the converted. Find new catch slogan....bila hiyo...enda Nyumbani. Tailala NASA hao - that is too last year. Steal even ONE KENYA ONE PEOPLE - something catchy new - for new season.

4) Basically REBRAND completely - change even your clothing :). I suggest you start wearing suits   - or going even radically for Nigeria ankara :)

Maybe you should stop coloring your hair black - maybe grey haired Raila will sell :) - watu wataona he is harmless old man about to die - which essentially is your message to GEMA>

With this you may improve from 2% to even 20 percent - and then hopefully you can run back to NASA and regroup it - before it's too late - because Kambas are critical there too.

Hapa the ground is very hard  - very hard - I give you 5-10% with lots of help from Uhuru - who has been depleted - he is probably going to hide in statehouse.
https://www.facebook.com/gordon.opiyo/videos/584718466213348/
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2025, 10:57:06 PM

How spot on was it on Kenyan politics and betrayal , Na Bado now there is bread based Government , siku ya Kiama inakuja….

RV, The common denominator in Kenyan politics is betrayal , This has been widely covered to an extent where Joe Khamisi even wrote a book called Politics of Betrayal.
FYI , Raila betrayal of his comrades goes back to more than 20 years. I will highlight as from his Ford K days.
He betrayed Wamalwa in 1994-95, Betrayed Moi in 2002 after being made a Minister and enriching himself, Betrayed Nyachae in 2002 ,Betrayed Kibaki as from 2003, Betrayed Kalonzo in 2007 , Betrayed Ruto as from 2008. Betrayed Kalonzo and Mudavadi with the handshake in 2018 This was the epitome of betrayal he even refused to give them their monetary rights .
Raila is synonymous to betrayal its only about time before he betrays Uhuru , but then again Uhuru comes second on betrayals .

Now why I brought up Uhuru and Ruto . This was for you to compare Kibaki and Raila. UhuRutos first term was a perfect example of how Kibaki and Raila should have worked. Imstead Raila being power hungry wanted to usurp Kibaki presidential powers ans remder him impotent. When Kibaki was hospitalized and riding on wheel chair , Raila was calling press conferences  and doimg rallies while belittling Kibaki. Ruto on the other hand took ot with stride was patient and whenever media tried to put him in longerheads with Uhuru he would always say Uhuru is the boss , he is right and at liberty to run the government the way he wants. This is partly the reason he is sleep walking to Presidency in Aug 2022. If he would have gone Railas way be assured he wouldnt become the President.
Now Ruto also had a golden opportunity to do a Raila im the first term and go against Uhuru come 2017 by betraying Uhuru ans joimimg hands with Raila. Mt Kenya phobia was all time high but he knew his role and played it well. Orengo has attested to Rutos loyalty , Raila doesnt posses thos virtue.
Its a common saying name me one Major politician Raila has never betrayed.



Dude your moral compass is messed up. OF COURSE UHURU betrayed Ruto. How can a DPORK betray PORK? How can blacks be racist? You can only betray from a power point. A weak person cannot betray a strong person.

 When Ruto fight back against betrayal - that doesnt become betrayal. When Raila fought back - it didnt mean betrayal.

The only difference Ruto has kept it personal with Uhuru - and has not involved Mt kenya.

That is where Raila went wrong - he made Kibaki betrayal -a Mt Kenya betrayal. This where Raila needs to apologize.

Egg and chicken.
So who between Uhuru and Ruto betrayed the other ?
Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2025, 11:00:26 PM

Kiambu ended giving Raila alot of votes . Ruto should have taken que why he is aiming for Embu and Meru is beyond miscalculations . Embu and Meru are more passionate than even Kikuyus right now they feel more aggrieved than even Kikuyus themselves .
It has always been like that and will always be like that

In Kiambu yes, not in the other counties.There is a section of Kiambu people who are liberal , In 1992 they voted for Muite in Ford Kenya and in 1997 they voted for George Nyanja in NDP.
The other counties Raila phobia is too much to erase it in this generation.

At least Kanini showed up.Babu is trying - he might move from 2% to 10% if he keep at it.
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Title: Re: Proborno advice for Raila to climb Mt kenya
Post by: Nefertiti on January 19, 2025, 11:31:16 PM
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Ruto problem is more fundamental he promised mana from heaven like MAGA jobs from China. Now he is telling people to ship to Qatar. Very hard to square that.