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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on September 23, 2021, 02:18:03 PM
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He said the obvious. If the war btw Uhuru and Ruto was to escalate it will suck their tribes and soon the security forces split.
This happened before in Nakuru PEV 2008 when the police split - and KIbaki had to call in Army from Lanet.
"The fighting has prompted the first army deployment since Kenya's crisis erupted and undermined hopes of a solution after Mr Kibaki met his rival Raila Odinga on Thursday in their first talks since the troubles began. Mr Odinga says the December vote was rigged."
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-23-musalia-uhuru-ruto-split-could-divide-security-forces/
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:D :D :D
We should also ban you for doing the same on this platform.
He said the obvious. If the war btw Uhuru and Ruto was to escalate it will suck their tribes and soon the security forces split.
This happened before in Nakuru PEV 2008 when the police split - and KIbaki had to call in Army from Lanet.
"The fighting has prompted the first army deployment since Kenya's crisis erupted and undermined hopes of a solution after Mr Kibaki met his rival Raila Odinga on Thursday in their first talks since the troubles began. Mr Odinga says the December vote was rigged."
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-09-23-musalia-uhuru-ruto-split-could-divide-security-forces/
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Is illegal to imagine nazism or deny jewish genocide in germany?
:D :D :D
We should also ban you for doing the same on this platform.
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KALENJINS AND THE PRESIDENCY
Article written by Joseph Marindi.
The crave with which Ruto's kalenjins are pushing him to be Kenya’s president in 2022 leaves me with a lot conclusions as a keen Kenyan. The desperation, the urge and thirst with which Ruto himself is hunting for the presidency backed by his Rift Valley cabal needs some little interrogation.
They threaten, talk bad, talk big, talk money, talk breasts...do this, do that ....do all.
Why the urgency for a kalenjin presidency?? Moi just left the other day after a long time!!!!
Here is the truth.
?Moi,a kalenjin, ruled Kenya for 24 years and the kalenjins benefited from his presidency. Any Kenyan who lived under Moi will testify that kalenjins owned Kenya. They ran roughshod over other communities. They were advantaged and favored in everything. They were policemen, soldiers, parastatal chiefs, clerks, ministers, directors,Dos,Dcs.... everything..even with every little education. In fact the police ascent till today reflects that of the kalenjin..because it was kalenjin owned and dominated. A bigger percentage of government projects went to Rift Valley. Roads were tarmacked where no vehicle passed.
?Kenya belonged to Kalenjins and they owned it fully. No one talked. They were everywhere and you couldn't do anything in Kenya without their approval. If you wanted anything in any government office, you looked for a Kalenjin friend to escort you to talk your way through.
?Remember the Barngetunys, the Chelugets, the Biwotts, the Cheserems, the Kuleis??...Kenya literally belonged to Kalenjins. They had an unlimited access to statehouse. It was their home.
?They took anything they wanted. All government jobs belonged to them and they could only give away what was left. All government lands belonged to them and they grabbed every parcel. They borrowed agricultural loans from the government institutions, bought tractors, did large scale agriculture and Moi waived it unconditionally.
?Anything that went in the hands of other communities was considered a favor and they were expected to take it with a lot of humility.
?It was all sweet for the long 24yrs until Moi's reign suddenly dried. They literally cried as power changed hands and Moi boarded a helicopter to Kabarak. They wept. It was unbelievable.
?Since then Kalenjins have thirsted for one of them to be President..... again. They want to go back there. Nothing, no position will quench their thirst other than the presidency. They will only rest if they dominate again.
?During the grand coalition government, Raila gave the kalenjin community alone a whooping 5flags, several assistant ministers, Permanent Secretaries and several other key posts, but they still complained they were shortchanged. It was nothing to a community that had the yam and the knife in their hands for 24yrs.
?Uhuru made Ruto his deputy, gave him a half of the government with authority to do appointments which he gave to kalenjins only but that would not quench their thirst. It was not enough. Ruto went to an early campaign frenzy because his community wants to go back to where they were for 24yrs under moi. They want nothing other than the presidency. They are itching for dominance. They want power like they knew it. They want other communities to be at their feet like they were under moi.
ALL TRIBES MATTER.
And in another development:
DP Ruto’s Hustler Nation
Let me begin with a recollection of something I watched on television in April 2008. It was the burial of pioneer nationalist Jeremiah Nyagah in Mbeere, in now Embu County, attended by the then President Mwai Kibaki.
When the time came for offerings, President Kibaki looked the other way as the basket was passed around.
Embarrassed that his boss had no money to give, the then Head of the Public Service Francis Muthaura quickly gave some money to the President’s aide-de-camp Lt-Col JL Mrashui, who put it in the basket as Kibaki watched with indifference.
Amused by the drama, I related the incident to my friend, retired policeman Essau Kioni, who once served as a security consultant in Kibaki’s State House. He laughed and told me that for all the time he knew Kibaki, he never saw him give money to anybody and doubted that the man ever carried a wallet in his life.
I also shared the story with another friend, former Treasury permanent secretary Charles Mbindyo, who worked with Kibaki when he was Finance minister and was also his economics lecturer at Makerere University.
He told me that in college, Kibaki taught them a theory he practises in life: never give cash to anybody for no work done because that is to spread poverty and encourage a beggar mentality (I guess that is what Kibaki would call a “hustler nation”). Instead, Kibaki told his students in Makerere, “enable people to earn money for themselves, which creates wealth”.
Joseph Marindi
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Stupid watermelon without any initiative of his own. I know why he has no support even among his own. Bure sana.
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I think Jews will actually take great offense at your attempt to use their pain to score a cheap political point for Ruto.
Is illegal to imagine nazism or deny jewish genocide in germany?
:D :D :D
We should also ban you for doing the same on this platform.
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To imagine nazism in Germany is not illegal. There are many in Germany who believe in that ideology.
Denying Jewish genocide is a crime in Germany.
Is illegal to imagine nazism or deny jewish genocide in germany?
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Why do you have to quote Joseph Marindi when I have talked about this severally.
2017 "In WSR they see the return to the political glory of the yester years. "
2019 - Nobody wanted me banned then.
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=7483.msg62125#msg62125
This what I wrote.
This a leverage Ruto has.Obviously when war begin things get out of control.By 3rd week in 2007 without opponents..all having fled..the warriors will turn on the wealthy and eat their wealth.There are few scenarios that could lead to war..Ruto being rigged out or kikuyu refusing to honor the deal or Ruto refusing to participate if he sense he will lose or Ruto swearing himself in...any of those will spark unprecedented war...Kalenjin are salivating at the return of the glorious days of Moi..their frustration if it doesn't happen will be vented in such scale I definitely won't be in Kenya.Ruto is the figure head of Kalenjin political ambitions.Obviously few non rv diaspora will stick around...as soon as jubilee breaks there will be mass exodus...the people down there have seen it..they know the police will fail them as always.
KALENJINS AND THE PRESIDENCY
Article written by Joseph Marindi.
The crave with which Ruto's kalenjins are pushing him to be Kenya’s president in 2022 leaves me with a lot conclusions as a keen Kenyan. The desperation, the urge and thirst with which Ruto himself is hunting for the presidency backed by his Rift Valley cabal needs some little interrogation.
They threaten, talk bad, talk big, talk money, talk breasts...do this, do that ....do all.
Why the urgency for a kalenjin presidency?? Moi just left the other day after a long time!!!!
Here is the truth.
?Moi,a kalenjin, ruled Kenya for 24 years and the kalenjins benefited from his presidency. Any Kenyan who lived under Moi will testify that kalenjins owned Kenya. They ran roughshod over other communities. They were advantaged and favored in everything. They were policemen, soldiers, parastatal chiefs, clerks, ministers, directors,Dos,Dcs.... everything..even with every little education. In fact the police ascent till today reflects that of the kalenjin..because it was kalenjin owned and dominated. A bigger percentage of government projects went to Rift Valley. Roads were tarmacked where no vehicle passed.
?Kenya belonged to Kalenjins and they owned it fully. No one talked. They were everywhere and you couldn't do anything in Kenya without their approval. If you wanted anything in any government office, you looked for a Kalenjin friend to escort you to talk your way through.
?Remember the Barngetunys, the Chelugets, the Biwotts, the Cheserems, the Kuleis??...Kenya literally belonged to Kalenjins. They had an unlimited access to statehouse. It was their home.
?They took anything they wanted. All government jobs belonged to them and they could only give away what was left. All government lands belonged to them and they grabbed every parcel. They borrowed agricultural loans from the government institutions, bought tractors, did large scale agriculture and Moi waived it unconditionally.
?Anything that went in the hands of other communities was considered a favor and they were expected to take it with a lot of humility.
?It was all sweet for the long 24yrs until Moi's reign suddenly dried. They literally cried as power changed hands and Moi boarded a helicopter to Kabarak. They wept. It was unbelievable.
?Since then Kalenjins have thirsted for one of them to be President..... again. They want to go back there. Nothing, no position will quench their thirst other than the presidency. They will only rest if they dominate again.
?During the grand coalition government, Raila gave the kalenjin community alone a whooping 5flags, several assistant ministers, Permanent Secretaries and several other key posts, but they still complained they were shortchanged. It was nothing to a community that had the yam and the knife in their hands for 24yrs.
?Uhuru made Ruto his deputy, gave him a half of the government with authority to do appointments which he gave to kalenjins only but that would not quench their thirst. It was not enough. Ruto went to an early campaign frenzy because his community wants to go back to where they were for 24yrs under moi. They want nothing other than the presidency. They are itching for dominance. They want power like they knew it. They want other communities to be at their feet like they were under moi.
ALL TRIBES MATTER.
And in another development:
DP Ruto’s Hustler Nation
Let me begin with a recollection of something I watched on television in April 2008. It was the burial of pioneer nationalist Jeremiah Nyagah in Mbeere, in now Embu County, attended by the then President Mwai Kibaki.
When the time came for offerings, President Kibaki looked the other way as the basket was passed around.
Embarrassed that his boss had no money to give, the then Head of the Public Service Francis Muthaura quickly gave some money to the President’s aide-de-camp Lt-Col JL Mrashui, who put it in the basket as Kibaki watched with indifference.
Amused by the drama, I related the incident to my friend, retired policeman Essau Kioni, who once served as a security consultant in Kibaki’s State House. He laughed and told me that for all the time he knew Kibaki, he never saw him give money to anybody and doubted that the man ever carried a wallet in his life.
I also shared the story with another friend, former Treasury permanent secretary Charles Mbindyo, who worked with Kibaki when he was Finance minister and was also his economics lecturer at Makerere University.
He told me that in college, Kibaki taught them a theory he practises in life: never give cash to anybody for no work done because that is to spread poverty and encourage a beggar mentality (I guess that is what Kibaki would call a “hustler nation”). Instead, Kibaki told his students in Makerere, “enable people to earn money for themselves, which creates wealth”.
Joseph Marindi
-
KALENJINS AND THE PRESIDENCY
Article written by Joseph Marindi.
The crave with which Ruto's kalenjins are pushing him to be Kenya’s president in 2022 leaves me with a lot conclusions as a keen Kenyan. The desperation, the urge and thirst with which Ruto himself is hunting for the presidency backed by his Rift Valley cabal needs some little interrogation.
They threaten, talk bad, talk big, talk money, talk breasts...do this, do that ....do all.
Why the urgency for a kalenjin presidency?? Moi just left the other day after a long time!!!!
Here is the truth.
?Moi,a kalenjin, ruled Kenya for 24 years and the kalenjins benefited from his presidency. Any Kenyan who lived under Moi will testify that kalenjins owned Kenya. They ran roughshod over other communities. They were advantaged and favored in everything. They were policemen, soldiers, parastatal chiefs, clerks, ministers, directors,Dos,Dcs.... everything..even with every little education. In fact the police ascent till today reflects that of the kalenjin..because it was kalenjin owned and dominated. A bigger percentage of government projects went to Rift Valley. Roads were tarmacked where no vehicle passed.
?Kenya belonged to Kalenjins and they owned it fully. No one talked. They were everywhere and you couldn't do anything in Kenya without their approval. If you wanted anything in any government office, you looked for a Kalenjin friend to escort you to talk your way through.
?Remember the Barngetunys, the Chelugets, the Biwotts, the Cheserems, the Kuleis??...Kenya literally belonged to Kalenjins. They had an unlimited access to statehouse. It was their home.
?They took anything they wanted. All government jobs belonged to them and they could only give away what was left. All government lands belonged to them and they grabbed every parcel. They borrowed agricultural loans from the government institutions, bought tractors, did large scale agriculture and Moi waived it unconditionally.
?Anything that went in the hands of other communities was considered a favor and they were expected to take it with a lot of humility.
?It was all sweet for the long 24yrs until Moi's reign suddenly dried. They literally cried as power changed hands and Moi boarded a helicopter to Kabarak. They wept. It was unbelievable.
?Since then Kalenjins have thirsted for one of them to be President..... again. They want to go back there. Nothing, no position will quench their thirst other than the presidency. They will only rest if they dominate again.
?During the grand coalition government, Raila gave the kalenjin community alone a whooping 5flags, several assistant ministers, Permanent Secretaries and several other key posts, but they still complained they were shortchanged. It was nothing to a community that had the yam and the knife in their hands for 24yrs.
?Uhuru made Ruto his deputy, gave him a half of the government with authority to do appointments which he gave to kalenjins only but that would not quench their thirst. It was not enough. Ruto went to an early campaign frenzy because his community wants to go back to where they were for 24yrs under moi. They want nothing other than the presidency. They are itching for dominance. They want power like they knew it. They want other communities to be at their feet like they were under moi.
ALL TRIBES MATTER.
And in another development:
DP Ruto’s Hustler Nation
Let me begin with a recollection of something I watched on television in April 2008. It was the burial of pioneer nationalist Jeremiah Nyagah in Mbeere, in now Embu County, attended by the then President Mwai Kibaki.
When the time came for offerings, President Kibaki looked the other way as the basket was passed around.
Embarrassed that his boss had no money to give, the then Head of the Public Service Francis Muthaura quickly gave some money to the President’s aide-de-camp Lt-Col JL Mrashui, who put it in the basket as Kibaki watched with indifference.
Amused by the drama, I related the incident to my friend, retired policeman Essau Kioni, who once served as a security consultant in Kibaki’s State House. He laughed and told me that for all the time he knew Kibaki, he never saw him give money to anybody and doubted that the man ever carried a wallet in his life.
I also shared the story with another friend, former Treasury permanent secretary Charles Mbindyo, who worked with Kibaki when he was Finance minister and was also his economics lecturer at Makerere University.
He told me that in college, Kibaki taught them a theory he practises in life: never give cash to anybody for no work done because that is to spread poverty and encourage a beggar mentality (I guess that is what Kibaki would call a “hustler nation”). Instead, Kibaki told his students in Makerere, “enable people to earn money for themselves, which creates wealth”.
Joseph Marindi
Great article.
It is the same itch Kikuyus have, wameonja utamu wa serikali mara moja now they are hooked.
They are not enterprising as other tribes so they want to kunyonya serikali. Dangerous mofos.
That is why this election cycle is break or make for Kenya. We have to prevent these barbarians from ever lording over Kenya.
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Should Ruto win the presidency God forbid it is almost certain his deputy will do a Ruto on him within the first six months. David Ndii leave the country as promised
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/siasa/2021-09-25-why-uhuruto-falling-out-risks-splitting-security-forces-ahead-of-2022/