Hon Raila has consistently agitated and campaigned against the devolution money counties like Mandera and others in NFD and PASTORALIST counties get...his obsessive HATRED is very disheartening @WehliyeMohamed @makaumutua @HonAdenDuale @aliiroba @JunetMohamed @AbdikadirMohami https://t.co/2n17GbK6Oh
— Ahmednasir Abdullahi SC (@ahmednasirlaw) August 29, 2021
So Sad @RailaOdinga is trumpeting propaganda by those hellbent on keeping Regions of KE forever Marginalised!
— Abdikadir Mohamed SC (@AbdikadirMohami) August 29, 2021
Pray how are the 85% National Govt Share of Resources distributed? How much end up in Kiambu? How about the whole of the North?@aliiroba @BillowKerrow @GovernorNanok https://t.co/gFpLIHXM7p
At long last he got the courage to publicly say it . Sad anti Devolution https://t.co/GxKjcAkUvJ
— Hon. Aden Duale, EGH (@HonAdenDuale) August 29, 2021
Sadly he is expecting that NFD will forget his position and thoughts for NFD. Grave under estimation of coalition of minorities.
— HE. Capt. Ali Ibrahim Roba, EGH, MP (@aliiroba) August 29, 2021
Ruto will not be the beneficiary, Ruto has no love for Somalis having ordered that infamous crackdown and mass lock up of Somalis in stadiums during his first term. OKOA candidates will be boosted by this news. Both Ruto and Raila have gone with GEMA first strategy which is dumb because of demographics and the fact of latent anti Kikuyu sentiment in the rest of the country.
Baba risking votes & seats he can easily get from Turkana, Mandera, Wajir, Isiolo, Garissa, Lamu, Tana River, Marsabit, Kwale, Taita, Samburu etc for hard to get ones in Central Kenya. He shouldn't forget the marginalised market is far bigger than 10 to 20% of Central Kenya!
— Mohamed Wehliye, MBS (@WehliyeMohamed) August 29, 2021
RV , so whats the beef of North Eastern with Kikuyus when Kibaki defeated Raila in North Eastern in 2007 , Uhuru won against Raila in North Eastern both in 2013 and 2017.
And Im not saying they wont vote for Ruto. My point is North Eastern politics generally rotates around clan politics and whoever engages and negotiates well with them gets the bulk of the votes.
No if you check MOAS; they normally vote 50-50 because they dont give a damn; or well they split votes; or well normally they are so vulnerable they follow the deep state. Normally they follow the gov - or at worse they do 50-50
Kibaki did well - by appointing many somalis - so let not ignore that - likes of Gen Ali and etc
But if we speak the truth - kikiyus have beef (envy) of somalis.RV , so whats the beef of North Eastern with Kikuyus when Kibaki defeated Raila in North Eastern in 2007 , Uhuru won against Raila in North Eastern both in 2013 and 2017.
And Im not saying they wont vote for Ruto. My point is North Eastern politics generally rotates around clan politics and whoever engages and negotiates well with them gets the bulk of the votes.
URP in 2013 scored 90 percent for example in Mandera; In fact the somalis have been reticent to support jubilee because of Uhuru; not Ruto; they know kikuyus have beef with Somalis; But kalenjin are pro-Somalis in Kenya. The real beef kikuyus have on Somalis is business...it same beef they had with Indians..Somalis came and ate their lunch.
Ruto will score 90 percent; 10 percent will go to Gideon Moi and KANU for the illeterate there who do not know Moi is dead.
Raila has destroyed himself...because the marginalized communities thought the Luos being also politically marganizalized would make great allies...but they have seen he is just unreliable sob.
Who else can go to pastoralist and get hearing. Kalonzo...zero. Madvd zero. So pale ni UDA versus KANU....with small ODM by those who are confused.
UDA has Duale - who is the PM under Ruto - so expect 90 percent. For after GEMA DPORK; Duale will be 3rd most powerful person in Ruto gov representing all pastoralist.
Most tribes in Kenya fear Somalis - Kalenjin and Maasai dont - culturally Kalenjin and language wise - kalenjin/maasai know they are half somalis half nilotes. Half kalenjin words are somali words. The other half are shared with Luos.
Now you say the truth. They have intelligence and follow where the next Govt will be. In 2007 Kibaki won North Eastern , In 2013 and 2017 Uhuru won. Now this is more correct analysis than what you were peddling before and yes it is also correct Ruto will perform better because of how Raila mishandled North Eastern Interests.
Try to keep it real and factual.
Kikuyus are hateful sobs in general, they have an ungodly hate for Jaluos, two Luo linesmen were electrocuted in Thika a few years back when the line they were working on was deliberately energized by those miscreants. I believe their hatred for Somali has nothing to do with business rivalry, they hated them before their recent economic success, I was reading a book on Kenya by a mzungu whose title eludes me currently, in it he writes about how Jomo wanted to poison the wells of the pastoralist community, even the British were aghast, he wanted RAF to dump poison on their pastures, extreme extreme stuff. Hate is endemic to that community period. You ever wonder why their towns and cities are exclusively populated by them while Kisumu, RV, Coast, Ukambani, even North Eastern are cosmopolitan. Other tribes are friendly, honest, hospitable and laid back. Kiuks are conniving, dishonest to the bone and will snitch on you to jambazis the day you move in, a reason no one bothers living among them. On the flipside they love moving into other folks background - witness Kiunjuri's and Kuria missives to Ruto about Kenyans (read Kikuyus) having the right to live anywhere and seeking elective positions.
URP in 2013 scored 90 percent for example in Mandera; In fact the somalis have been reticent to support jubilee because of Uhuru; not Ruto; they know kikuyus have beef with Somalis; But kalenjin are pro-Somalis in Kenya. The real beef kikuyus have on Somalis is business...it same beef they had with Indians..Somalis came and ate their lunch.
Ruto will score 90 percent; 10 percent will go to Gideon Moi and KANU for the illeterate there who do not know Moi is dead.
Raila has destroyed himself...because the marginalized communities thought the Luos being also politically marganizalized would make great allies...but they have seen he is just unreliable sob.
Who else can go to pastoralist and get hearing. Kalonzo...zero. Madvd zero. So pale ni UDA versus KANU....with small ODM by those who are confused.
UDA has Duale - who is the PM under Ruto - so expect 90 percent. For after GEMA DPORK; Duale will be 3rd most powerful person in Ruto gov representing all pastoralist.
Most tribes in Kenya fear Somalis - Kalenjin and Maasai dont - culturally Kalenjin and language wise - kalenjin/maasai know they are half somalis half nilotes. Half kalenjin words are somali words. The other half are shared with Luos.
Kikuyus are hateful sobs in general, they have an ungodly hate for Jaluos, two Luo linesmen were electrocuted in Thika a few years back when the line they were working on was deliberately energized by those miscreants. I believe their hatred for Somali has nothing to do with business rivalry, they hated them before their recent economic success, I was reading a book on Kenya by a mzungu whose title eludes me currently, in it he writes about how Jomo wanted to poison the wells of the pastoralist community, even the British were aghast, he wanted RAF to dump poison on their pastures, extreme extreme stuff. Hate is endemic to that community period. You ever wonder why their towns and cities are exclusively populated by them while Kisumu, RV, Coast, Ukambani, even North Eastern are cosmopolitan. Other tribes are friendly, honest, hospitable and laid back. Kiuks are conniving, dishonest to the bone and will snitch on you to jambazis the day you move in, a reason no one bothers living among them. On the flipside they love moving into other folks background - witness Kiunjuri's and Kuria missives to Ruto about Kenyans (read Kikuyus) having the right to live anywhere and seeking elective positions.
Lubbish
Babu is on point.
This is BBI apologetics.
He is not against NFD, he’s simply saying Mount Kenya deserves a bigger share, something he stood for in the BBI. It’s hard to fault that. He will repeat the same to in Uasin Gishu
Okay. When I read FairBalanced recently say they will poison kalenjin water; I thought it was random. I didnt realize this water poisoning has long history....Anyway let not get into the sterotyping stuff -Kikuyus are hateful sobs in general, they have an ungodly hate for Jaluos, two Luo linesmen were electrocuted in Thika a few years back when the line they were working on was deliberately energized by those miscreants. I believe their hatred for Somali has nothing to do with business rivalry, they hated them before their recent economic success, I was reading a book on Kenya by a mzungu whose title eludes me currently, in it he writes about how Jomo wanted to poison the wells of the pastoralist community, even the British were aghast, he wanted RAF to dump poison on their pastures, extreme extreme stuff. Hate is endemic to that community period. You ever wonder why their towns and cities are exclusively populated by them while Kisumu, RV, Coast, Ukambani, even North Eastern are cosmopolitan. Other tribes are friendly, honest, hospitable and laid back. Kiuks are conniving, dishonest to the bone and will snitch on you to jambazis the day you move in, a reason no one bothers living among them. On the flipside they love moving into other folks background - witness Kiunjuri's and Kuria missives to Ruto about Kenyans (read Kikuyus) having the right to live anywhere and seeking elective positions.
BBI has been declared Null, Void and Illegal.
Anyone pursuing BBI doesn't respect the rule of law.
The whole BBI formulae therefore failed to listen to Somalis - who are wailing now.
If BBI had listen to kenyans they would have come with win-win - that add Kiambu money without reducing Mandera.
Kiambu has a problem as everyone move to Nairobi Metro.
Mandera has a historical problem as they are far behind.
So we can get win-win for both.
The rest of the country are probably okay - no one in Bomet or Kericho is complaining for example.
We can add Kiambu money - and we can retain Mandera Money - and the rest of counties can continue on the happy path.Lubbish
Babu is on point.
This is BBI apologetics.
He is not against NFD, he’s simply saying Mount Kenya deserves a bigger share, something he stood for in the BBI. It’s hard to fault that. He will repeat the same to in Uasin Gishu
RV when Robina says you were inciting this is what she meant.
You started a good thread then deviated and brought in the tribal angle. Now A D has taken it to the next level.
No 1 Business competion doesnt necessarily translate to political rivarly. Mt Kenyans and North Easterners do business together and also live with each other. Even in the current Government North Easterners hold some of the prolific positions .
This thing of piting one tribe against the other honestly wont work with the current constituion and thats where Raila is going wrong you cant go and sing in Muranga about need of Kiambu getting more money on behest of Mandera and expect to get votes in North Eastern.
Now look at Ruto when he is Mt Kenya he talks of enhancing their interests when he goes to North Eastern he talks of the same.
Something which RV you articulating very well calling it a win win .
Why after some minutes you talk of the contrary buffles some of us.
Also another point for Raila and his supporters if you cant talk of policies or short of ideas , its better to attack Ruto or whoever rather than a tribe or a region else thats a guaranteed loss but oh well seems its hard teaching an old dog new tricks.
Garbage
Repeat after me,
“We intended to pour more into your pockets”
The judges called them ‘sweeteners’
Okay. When I read FairBalanced recently say they will poison kalenjin water; I thought it was random. I didnt realize this water poisoning has long history....Anyway let not get into the sterotyping stuff -
Yes, well poisoning has a long pedigree among farmers when confronting pastoralists communities over the world.
You are on a yellow card so I don't fault you for being fearful :D
I only insulted them you called for their genocide.
They are hard to love community aki :D
Ey sometimes hurtful truth is necessary even it amounts to stereotyping 🤷
He think he is very smart; desperation is bad thing. End results he will lose it all. But its worth going with a big bangThis was an extremely poor move by baba almost racist. Did he even think of the marginalized somalis in mandera and how they would feel watching this??some will say its politics but Not!Hon Raila has consistently agitated and campaigned against the devolution money counties like Mandera and others in NFD and PASTORALIST counties get...his obsessive HATRED is very disheartening @WehliyeMohamed @makaumutua @HonAdenDuale @aliiroba @JunetMohamed @AbdikadirMohami https://t.co/2n17GbK6Oh
— Ahmednasir Abdullahi SC (@ahmednasirlaw) August 29, 2021
Pastor - wacha pombe - and if youre learning - kunywa kidogo.
Garbage
Repeat after me,
“We intended to pour more into your pockets”
The judges called them ‘sweeteners’
Wacha bangi my guy,
BBI is a rotten egg. Ruto is flogging it, its supporters won't simply apologize for that, they will play victim and keep on showing how well meaning it was, and how Shiko is the ultimate loser.
"You deserve more, we worked so hard to deliver it only for the courts to frustrate us..."
Babu has multiple slip of the tongue but this ain't it. Tanga Tanga are of course more than eager to run with it. It won't get far.