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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on August 29, 2021, 12:06:53 PM
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This song and many more to come are warning kikuyus not to be reckless and follow looters ovyo ovyo. Uhuru is a symbol of national unity in kikuyu nation. Any disrespect of uhuru is disrespect to the kikuyu nation. Ruto should know we are not some bushmen to be conned. Let nandis continue deluding themselves that we have debt to pay. Even raila can go fry fish in bonds
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Sasa Njamba mutatoa nani? You're setting yourself for a big epic failure. Isolate yourself from kenya. Opening too many war fronts while you're weak. This is the time to fallback.
Hapa itabidi umetii. These are the last dying kicks of Kieleweke. I think they are down to 10 mps now :) - who will you sell?
Labda Mbeere Muturi :)
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We won't just join others. Kenya tribalism is deep rooted and kikuyu nation will only engage with nations on the basis that we have the votes and should lead not led by small nations
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Last I checked you were slowly becoming a small nation. You're 17 percent. Kalenjin are 14 percent. Youre 8m. Kalenjin are close to 6.5m. The world has changed. And you need to change.
We know Uhuru suppressed Somali numbers - and maybe other tribes - but come 2029 census - utashangaa! Somalis are giving birth like nonsense
We won't just join others. Kenya tribalism is deep rooted and kikuyu nation will only engage with nations on the basis that we have the votes and should lead not led by small nations
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2029 is not 2022. As long as we have 20% it dictates we produce pork and you can produce a vp
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The 80 percent would like to disagree. COK 50 percent means to win PORK kenya sio mchezo. Tribal candidates cannot make it. The days when Moi won with 35 percent is gone.
2029 is not 2022. As long as we have 20% it dictates we produce pork and you can produce a vp
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Njamba read slowly
The graph below presents the annual population growth in the 8 counties of Mt. Kenya (I did exclude Nakuru and Laikipia as they are not purely in Mt. Kenya)
Besides Kiambu, the other 7 counties records very low population growth and all are below the national average of 2.2% (Kiambu’s population growth is mainly driven by in-migration rate)
The low population growth rate in in region is mainly driven by high family planning rate, increasing life expectancy hence more older population, out-migration rate among others
Number of ECDE are on a download trend driven by reducing enrolment!
Do you know majority of these 8 counties are on the verge of having an almost stagnant population while most counties especially in the North are recording accelerated population growth?
Marsabit population is growing at a rate of 5.8% and in 10 years (2030), the county will have overtaken Kirinyaga, Nyeri, Embu and Nyandurua Counties!
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I highly doubt our people are ready for this conversation.
Was looking at school enrolment data which is quite reliable because of NEMIS and the numbers there should terrify any politican from mt Kenya.
Homabay county for example has more kids in ECDs than Nyeri, Embu, Kirinyaga, Laikipia and Tharaka combined.
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Check population increase in kajiado and other places. That where kikuyus are.
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I live in similar place..hakuna wakikuyu boss...they buy land from Maasai...then sell to everyone....waluhya, wakisii na wajaluo ndio wengi.
Your people should stop that population thing; the entitlement thing; and embrace Kenya.
Check population increase in kajiado and other places. That where kikuyus are.
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I agree with both of you to some degree. If it was up to me, Kikuyus and Kales would have stayed out of this race. That horse has already bolted so there is no chance of that happening. To Kales, this is almost life or death situation and there will be some no chance Kikuyus on the ballot. The situation where the tail is wagging the dog is very disturbing, Mt Kenya with 6m votes are letting 1.5m Kales wag them with almost nothing in return. They should be negotiating big time or at least play hard to get, I think the Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri are realizing this but it’s a little too late. This is why I think Uhuru had the right strategy all along, look at least at Raila, Okoa and Ruto and see what they have to offer, I think even Luhya and all their subtribes have more votes than Kales. The Kikuyu leadership we have right now is all about greed and self service, Ruto shows them a little money and they open like koinange street malaya. On the population thing, I think Kikuyu numbers have been deflated since Moi era or they all moved to Boston and Dallas. You can live in places like Worcester and speak Kikuyu only, they have their own stores, car repairs, churches, dealerships, nursing homes etc it’s an amazing case of immigrant success. The only other place you see this is Minneapolis with Somalis.
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How do Moi suppressed census of 2009 and 2019. Kikuyu population has dropped due to family planning. And it's a good thing. Kikuyu are become richer. But political speaking - they need to tone down - that chauvinism and embrace kenya. I thought you learnt some lesson in 2007 when kikuyus were being hunted all over the country.
New kikuyu leaders working with Ruto and kikuyu people know that path of older generaiton is no longer sustainable. They want to do business. They want devolution.
The soon you embrace a Kenya agenda the better. Kikuyus have been incredibly lucky compared to other tribes. Not only was Nairobi centralized, you have had 35yrs of presidency and so many vice presidents.
Dont re-awaken the anti-kikuyu politics that thrived from 1960s till recently. Jubilee 1.0 killed that completely because Ruto insisted on sharing the cake equally. Even propaganda of two tribes has no basis because nobody can accuse Jubilee of taking roads to one area or electricity.Uhuru is back to tabia mbaya in 2.0 - appointing only kikuyus - and opening roads and dams only there.
That is re-awekening monster of tribalism.
Ruto despite needing Mt kenya has REFUSED to be boxed into moses kuria kind of thinking and has insisted on win-win - and has insisted on listening to all voices.
That is how to run a country - Kibaki type of mess led to poor kikuyus being hated for almost nothing - they did not benefit - their dynasties benefitted.
Under Ruto I would go for county or const model where if its roads - everyone get eqaul share - money for business - the same - and come 2027 - Ruto will win by 90 percent.
Kenya are very good people - they just need fairness. Let each county get fair share. Each const fair share. And it wont matter who PORK is
I agree with both of you to some degree. If it was up to me, Kikuyus and Kales would have stayed out of this race. That horse has already bolted so there is no chance of that happening. To Kales, this is almost life or death situation and there will be some no chance Kikuyus on the ballot. The situation where the tail is wagging the dog is very disturbing, Mt Kenya with 6m votes are letting 1.5m Kales wag them with almost nothing in return. They should be negotiating big time or at least play hard to get, I think the Moses Kuria and Kiunjuri are realizing this but it’s a little too late. This is why I think Uhuru had the right strategy all along, look at least at Raila, Okoa and Ruto and see what they have to offer, I think even Luhya and all their subtribes have more votes than Kales. The Kikuyu leadership we have right now is all about greed and self service, Ruto shows them a little money and they open like koinange street malaya. On the population thing, I think Kikuyu numbers have been deflated since Moi era or they all moved to Boston and Dallas. You can live in places like Worcester and speak Kikuyu only, they have their own stores, car repairs, churches, dealerships, nursing homes etc it’s an amazing case of immigrant success. The only other place you see this is Minneapolis with Somalis.