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Title: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 02:46:12 PM
Crazy when you have entire parliament entertaining nonsense.

Ruto was very clear that he interceded on behalf of an east african - one Magoola - of Dei group - not Ayadin.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: gout on August 25, 2021, 03:04:41 PM
ODM cows appointed to the committees have to prove loyalty in all petty forms.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:12:01 PM
Something about this Turkish thug has you so rattled. I suspect some illegal cash deal (money laundering) was disrupted by GoK. Ruto himself does not even bother to tout integrity so why are you so bothered?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:13:47 PM
Ruto can actually sneak in and out of UG anytime. He needs to be careful about laundering his loot especially as elections near. Uhuru can easily confiscate it - worse hand it to his opponents.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
I listened to that interview. I posted the link here. I heard Ruto clearly. If you think Ruto is a baby in money laundering; then you're indeed a baby. Ruto and many KANU era politicians have Phd in money laundering because they knew in 90s; the next gov business was to hound them.
Something about this Turkish thug has you so rattled. I suspect some illegal cash deal (money laundering) was disrupted by GoK. Ruto himself does not even both to tout integrity so why are you so bothered?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:23:40 PM
Yes but why push this story here. Ruto cannot win any integrity contest against Kalonzo - he does not even need to. You and Ruto should run away from such debate.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 03:24:40 PM
This has nothing to do with Kalonzo. This is bastardazation of parliament that I find offensive. The ODM morons should at least attempt to appear to want to solve real issues and they may be taken seriously.

Ruto has Phd in Propaganda. Integrity ni kitu ghani for someone elected while indicted by ICC for crimes against humanity. Is there any allegation more serious than mass murder, rape and displacement.

Ruto is busy in church every day cleaning his image - and while you can spin all sorts of allegations - people know he is a religious man :) a committed christian'; a prayer warrior :)

This is straight from Moi playbook. Moi anakufinya and go to church to take holy communion :)

Yes but why push this story here. Ruto cannot win any integrity contest against Kalonzo - he does not even need to. You and Ruto should run away from such debate.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:30:52 PM
As you saw in Machaa calling Kalonzo a thief makes ignorant Kamba very angry. Kalonzo has only one close-knit base - unless there is 411 Raila-Uhuru might tosha him - it lose-lose for Ruto.

What I see - OKA will pick up meaningless fights with Ruto - that inflame their bases against him. OKA have all but settled on Raila-led ticket - Ruto should avoid such fights cunningly set up by ODM. You see how ODM has not fired Mutulas and Malalas despite NASA dissolution. Even arrogant Sifuna has been muted. They are in courtship mode.

This has nothing to do with Kalonzo. This is bastardazation of parliament that I find offensive. The ODM morons should at least attempt to appear to want to solve real issues and they may be taken seriously.

Ruto has Phd in Propaganda. Integrity ni kitu ghani for someone elected while indicted by ICC for crimes against humanity.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 03:33:05 PM
Bora the head of ticket is Raila - shida iko pale pale Mt kenya. Remember Ruto doesn't need OKA principles to win. If OKA-ODM - NASA candidate is Raila - Ruto simply sleep walk to PORK with 70 percent of GEMA and reduced turnout.

Read MOAS thread so we dont repeat the same nonsense everyday

Ruto if he get Weta - will only need 60 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get maDVD - will only need 50 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get Kalonzo - will only need 40 percent of GEMA to win.

Bottomline - Jubilee had big buffer in last election - and Ruto has grown it further - that buffer is enough to deal with Mt kenya radicals who may not vote him.

Ruto is only looking for RIGGING MARGINS proofing.

And that rigging is to deny Ruto a first round victory.

As you saw in Machaa calling Kalonzo a thief makes ignorant Kamba very angry. Kalonzo has only one close-knit base - unless there is 411 Raila-Uhuru might tosha him - it lose-lose for Ruto.

What I see - OKA will pick up meaningless fights with Ruto - that inflame their bases against him. OKA have all but settled on Raila-led ticket - Ruto should avoid such fights cunningly set up by ODM. You see how ODM has not fired Mutulas and Malalas despite NASA dissolution. Even arrogant Sifuna has been muted. They are in courtship mode.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:41:55 PM
And how will Ruto get Kalonzo when Kalonzo is at DCI distancing himself from Ruto claims he stole Yatta land? Do you think it's another charade to fool Raila  :) Am sure in your head Ruto is already PORK waiting to be sworn in - well to the rest of us he is nowhere near power.

Ruto wil not get Kalonzo - and if he doesn't compromise and keep his "national" party with 1MP out of Mt Kenya - he might not even get 20% Gema.

Bora the head of ticket is Raila - shida iko pale pale Mt kenya. Remember Ruto doesn't need OKA principles to win.

Read MOAS thread so we dont repeat the same nonsense everyday

Ruto if he get Weta - will only need 60 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get maDVD - will only need 50 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get Kalonzo - will only need 40 percent of GEMA to win.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: gout on August 25, 2021, 03:45:43 PM
This is a blip for Equity in its regional strategy. It is quite stupid that the finance committee has nothing to say on 450 billion SGR contract but is chasing a private firm contract. Truly moronic for mwafrika, would have been allover news celebrating if the loans was from a PE mzungu shark.

Great Mwangi Mbirionis has not appeared - I never knew there was an MD at Equity. :D :D :D

What are they gonna recommend? That Equity loses its license or DCI be approving bank loans??

Well in a few months we might be importing vaccines from the factory.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: gout on August 25, 2021, 03:48:15 PM
Land matters are clearly for the NLC and High Court. DCI can only act a laundry mart or a hanging line.

And how will Ruto get Kalonzo when Kalonzo is at DCI distancing himself from Ruto claims he stole Yatta land? Do you think it's another charade to fool Raila  :) Am sure in your head Ruto is already PORK waiting to be sworn in - well to the rest of us he is nowhere near power.

Ruto wil not get Kalonzo - and if he doesn't compromise and keep his "national" party with 1MP out of Mt Kenya - he might not even get 20% Gema.

Bora the head of ticket is Raila - shida iko pale pale Mt kenya. Remember Ruto doesn't need OKA principles to win.

Read MOAS thread so we dont repeat the same nonsense everyday

Ruto if he get Weta - will only need 60 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get maDVD - will only need 50 percent of GEMA to win.

Ruto if he get Kalonzo - will only need 40 percent of GEMA to win.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 03:54:14 PM
gout - There is no vaccine factory in UG - otherwise Kampala would not be in strict lockdown. This is just one of Ruto's campaign channels disrupted - like they confiscated some sizeable billions using new notes. Despite the phd in graft Ruto is not so clever he can slip and be caught now and then. Wacheni hubris - hakuna mwizi special.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:01:55 PM
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:02:33 PM
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: gout on August 25, 2021, 04:07:46 PM
The committee just ike you would benefit from a one click Google search.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dei+BioPharma+Ltd+Uganda&sxsrf=ALeKk024vFvMVpbK9uv_ha8nQTm1ZfVO1Q%3A1629896759075&ei=N0AmYb78A_mKjLsPrfKXyAs&oq=Dei+BioPharma+Ltd+Uganda&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGABQAFgAYKwBaABwAHgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEA&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwj-8-DKnszyAhV5BWMBHS35BbkQ4dUDCA8&uact=5
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:10:01 PM
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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:12:34 PM
Let the truth be told , Pre 2013 all attacks were against Uhuru a then fired Finance Minister but hanging on DPM. Similar attacks we are seeing from Raila supporters against Ruto . Uhuru ended up being a President ,In 2022 Ruto will be the President.

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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: GeeMail on August 25, 2021, 04:13:16 PM
If as Ruto claims and cannot resign as a public servant, the PUBLIC accounts committee can investigate the affairs of a public servant and his dealings with a foreign country. Considering that Ruto apologized to Turkey on behalf of the government, the public accounts committee has interest.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:13:28 PM
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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:16:13 PM
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Facts Vs Pathological liars


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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:18:37 PM

Listen to Rutos Interview clearely you will notice DBKipkorir is the liar. Can you quote or proviee the clip saying Ruto made a call to equity seekimg a loan for the Turkman.

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Facts Vs Pathological liars


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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:18:52 PM
Which public money is Equity holding. Equity bank can lend to anyone. Fact is they lend to Uganda 150M dollars. That is their private money and private business.
If as Ruto claims and cannot resign as a public servant, the PUBLIC accounts committee can investigate the affairs of a public servant and his dealings with a foreign country. Considering that Ruto apologized to Turkey on behalf of the government, the public accounts committee has interest.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:21:30 PM
I listened to it on that day. The context is important. The lady had asked Ruto why he had gone to Uganda previously. Ruto answered that some Ugandan he had assisted get a loan had invited him to open the factory.

Like Itumbi has shown - this information was long corroborated by Museveni, the investor and Equity Bank in their financial statement - long before Aydin scandal.

Listen to Rutos Interview clearely you will notice DBKipkorir is the liar. Can you quote or proviee the clip saying Ruto made a call to equity seekimg a loan for the Turkman.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:24:06 PM
Donald Kipkorir the political broker of Gideon Moi is now a paragon of virtues. The last he was seen misleading Kalonzo in 2007. Then he seems to have joined Baba in NARA.

If there is a guy who cost Raila PORK - it i'ts Donald Kipkorir - and Muthama - who took Kalonzo to Kibakia in 2007.

And once Raila got PM - he abandoned Kalonzo and joined Raila Odinga.

If I was ODM - I wont trust DBK - he could even be talking to Ruto - a double agent - if there was one.

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Facts Vs Pathological liars


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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:24:33 PM
Tangatanga dalliance with Miguna and Havi types  8)

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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: gout on August 25, 2021, 04:25:21 PM
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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:27:16 PM

clinging on straws , thats the weakness of  ODMers. If they were good in Propaganda they could have a milked the Uhuru Interview.
Now they are trying to spin Uganda story. 

I listened to it on that day. The context is important. The lady had asked Ruto why he had gone to Uganda previously. Ruto answered that some Ugandan he had assisted get a loan had invited him to open the factory.

Like Itumbi has shown - this information was long corroborated by Museveni, the investor and Equity Bank in their financial statement - long before Aydin scandal.

Listen to Rutos Interview clearely you will notice DBKipkorir is the liar. Can you quote or proviee the clip saying Ruto made a call to equity seekimg a loan for the Turkman.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:28:27 PM
That is why they are hopeless propaganda wise. Never openly lie.

Why waste Equity times - yet their financial statement long revealed they loaned Ruto's friend Dei Group

https://www.equitybank.cd/EGH-PLC-2019-Integrated-Report-and-Financial-Statements_compressed.pdf

This is 2019

In Uganda, Equity Bank has partnered with Dei Group Ltd,
a pharmaceutical company, to finance its expansion of
a pharmaceutical, biotech and research plant in order
to scale their capacity to manufacture and deliver
critical and effective drug solutions and to achieve their
goal of becoming the largest drug manufacturing plant
in Africa

clinging on straws , thats the weakness of  ODMers. If they were good in Propaganda they could have a milked the Uhuru Interview.
Now they are trying to spin Uganda story. 
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:29:47 PM
ODmers will soon realise they outplayed themselves .


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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:35:15 PM
DB Kipkorir is way more believable than Itumbi or Murkomen - known Ruto worshippers. It helps that he is literally one of a handful independent- minded Kalenjin.

About Equity money - the DPORK is involved with a dodgy foreigner. We want to know all the details. Equity is actually a publicly traded bank.

Which public money is Equity holding. Equity bank can lend to anyone. Fact is they lend to Uganda 150M dollars. That is their private money and private business.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:39:29 PM
Trust DBK at your own peril - that one is double agent - trying to get into Raila inner sanctrum - so he can betray him :) . Ruto and Donald are Y2k Moi era blue eyed boys of Gideon Moi.
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DB Korir is way more believable than Itumbi or Murkomen - known Ruto worshippers. It helps that he is literally one of a handful independent- minded Kalenjin.

About Equity money - the DPORK is involved with a dodgy foreigner. We want to know all the details. Equity is actually a publicly traded bank.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:40:17 PM

What does it take to classified as Indipendent Minded ?


DB Kipkorir is way more believable than Itumbi or Murkomen - known Ruto worshippers. It helps that he is literally one of a handful independent- minded Kalenjin.

About Equity money - the DPORK is involved with a dodgy foreigner. We want to know all the details. Equity is actually a publicly traded bank.

Which public money is Equity holding. Equity bank can lend to anyone. Fact is they lend to Uganda 150M dollars. That is their private money and private business.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:44:42 PM
Not to baselessly side with Ruto - like Murkomen and Sudi are Ruto psycophants.

You can say Miguna is independent minded Luo - doesn't worship Raila. DB Kipkorir is a sober Miguna - a Kalenjin that doesn't think Ruto is God.

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What does it take to classified as Indipendent Minded ?


DB Kipkorir is way more believable than Itumbi or Murkomen - known Ruto worshippers. It helps that he is literally one of a handful independent- minded Kalenjin.

About Equity money - the DPORK is involved with a dodgy foreigner. We want to know all the details. Equity is actually a publicly traded bank.

Which public money is Equity holding. Equity bank can lend to anyone. Fact is they lend to Uganda 150M dollars. That is their private money and private business.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: GeeMail on August 25, 2021, 04:45:49 PM
https://allafrica.com/stories/202108090252.html

"The investor of that factory came to this office and sat on the same seat where you are seated two years ago and asked if I could connect them with Equity Bank," DP Ruto told Inooro FM on Wednesday. "I picked the phone, called Equity and told them: 'There is an East African investor in my office. You have a branch in Uganda. Can you help him set up the business he wants?' The businessman got $150 million (Sh15 billion) and used it to set up a factory."
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:47:00 PM
RV Pundit is a Ruto psychophant - a Nipate version of Sudi or Murkomen.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: GeeMail on August 25, 2021, 04:47:37 PM
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Crazy when you have entire parliament entertaining nonsense.

Ruto was very clear that he interceded on behalf of an east african - one Magoola - of Dei group - not Ayadin.

"An East African investor" could mean a person investing in East Africa, or a person of East African descent. Which doublespeak do you want?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:48:28 PM
Lol - DBK beef with Ruto - is like Jirongo beef with Ruto. It has no ideological basis. It merely Y2K guys jealous of how far Ruto has gone. If I was Raila - I would not trust Gideon Moi or Uhuru Kenyatta or DBK to cut ties with Ruto over little stuff like corruption. Those are just thieves who went to loot squabbling of who got more .
DB Kipkorir is a sober Miguna - a Kalenjin that doesn't think Ruto is God.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:49:12 PM

Being Indipendent Minded is synonymous with Supporting Raila ?
Or can you classify me as an Indipendent Minded for Supporting Ruto just like you took example of Miguna a previous diehard Raila supporter who became his biggest critique. I now oppose Uhuru.

Not to baselessly side with Ruto - like Murkomen and Sudi are Ruto psycophants.

You can say Miguna is independent minded Luo - doesn't worship Raila. DB Kipkorir is a sober Miguna - a Kalenjin that doesn't think Ruto is God.

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What does it take to classified as Indipendent Minded ?


DB Kipkorir is way more believable than Itumbi or Murkomen - known Ruto worshippers. It helps that he is literally one of a handful independent- minded Kalenjin.

About Equity money - the DPORK is involved with a dodgy foreigner. We want to know all the details. Equity is actually a publicly traded bank.

Which public money is Equity holding. Equity bank can lend to anyone. Fact is they lend to Uganda 150M dollars. That is their private money and private business.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 04:50:49 PM

Or Lay it bear by saying , Ruto has all along refused to offer them financial assistance while he is loaded , hence the beef.

Lol - DBK beef with Ruto - is like Jirongo beef with Ruto. It has no ideological basis. It merely Y2K guys jealous of how far Ruto has gone.
DB Kipkorir is a sober Miguna - a Kalenjin that doesn't think Ruto is God.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:52:00 PM
Big deal.It's James Mwangi bank and money. Focus on Central bank or at least KCB - where kenya gov has 20 percent shareholding.

Ruto called a private bank.

"An East African investor" could mean a person investing in East Africa, or a person of East African descent. Which doublespeak do you want?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nefertiti on August 25, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Yes - and that woke them to Ruto true nature. The rest of Kalenjin and poor "hustlers" think Ruto is a miracle worker.

DB Kipkorir or Jirongo brush with Ruto qualifies them to debunk his false promises to gullible Kenyans.

Lol - DBK beef with Ruto - is like Jirongo beef with Ruto. It has no ideological basis. It merely Y2K guys jealous of how far Ruto has gone. If I was Raila - I would not trust Gideon Moi or Uhuru Kenyatta or DBK to cut ties with Ruto over little stuff like corruption. Those are just thieves who went to loot squabbling of who got more .
DB Kipkorir is a sober Miguna - a Kalenjin that doesn't think Ruto is God.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:55:26 PM
It's two things
1) Ruto refused to help them when they were down or were chasing some contract.
2) Ruto moved their cheese - all of them are power brokers. DBK initially moved to Kalonzo and became his advisor. Found nothing to eat. He moved to Raila and wails more than Bondo man declaring his undying loyalthy
3) Just rivarly that you are billionaire and I am a millionaire.

Those of us who know history can tell you Uhuru, Ruto, Gideon, DBK, Ruto and Jirongo- same whatsapp group
They made money from wheeler dealing
 
Ruto just has more talents than them - hence the beef.

Or Lay it bear by saying , Ruto has all along refused to offer them financial assistance while he is loaded , hence the beef.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 04:57:34 PM
I support Ruto well aware of his true character and weakness. You'd be a fool to think he is a saint.

I can tell you for free DBK beef with Ruto is not democracy or corruption. DBK made his money in KANU as KANU lawyer.

His beef and that is what I hear from all Ruto former friends - Ruto is greedy - grabs everything - leaving them with nothing. Most of them run to Raila in NARA. DBK tried shaking Kalonzo but that one is a fool.

They run to Raila because Raila doesnt know how to steal - he has no looting experience - so it easy to get something from them. But Ruto - as Kalejin - first he doesnt need you political - so you wont get any deals from him.

Secondly Ruto is known for slicing folks - he has probably con them. Ruto can steal from a thief. Just close one eye with Ruto and you're done.

So ignore the twitter wailing and undying love for Raila - DBK   :D  :D  :D

If you had my brain and memory - and a thousands of newspaper - like I did in 1990s - you would know these people INSIDE OUT

If Ruto calls DBK today - he will run rushing to Karen.

Yes - and that woke them to Ruto true nature. The rest of Kalenjin and poor "hustlers" think Ruto is a miracle worker.
DB Kipkorir or Jirongo brush with Ruto qualifies them to debunk his false promises to gullible Kenyans.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 25, 2021, 05:04:02 PM


prior to 2013 elections DBK was simgimg UhuRuto tunes just like Tony Gachoka hoping once they ascemd to power he would benefit financial wise.
All these former friends their beef with Ruto is simply about money period.

It's two things
1) Ruto refused to help them when they were down or were chasing some contract.
2) Ruto moved their cheese - all of them are power brokers. DBK initially moved to Kalonzo and became his advisor. Found nothing to eat. He moved to Raila and wails more than Bondo man declaring his undying loyalthy
3) Just rivarly that you are billionaire and I am a millionaire.

Those of us who know history can tell you Uhuru, Ruto, Gideon, DBK, Ruto and Jirongo- same whatsapp group
They made money from wheeler dealing
 
Ruto just has more talents than them - hence the beef.

Or Lay it bear by saying , Ruto has all along refused to offer them financial assistance while he is loaded , hence the beef.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Yes it money - they missed some deals they were brokering - all these guys are power brokers - DBK is desperate to join Raila inner sanctum so he can use that influence to make money. If Ruto become PORK today - he will be first one in Karen kneeling down.
prior to 2013 elections DBK was simgimg UhuRuto tunes just like Tony Gachoka hoping once they ascemd to power he would benefit financial wise.
All these former friends their beef with Ruto is simply about money period.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 25, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
"Equity did not issue a loan from Uganda"

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What is that supposed to mean?

It was Equity Kenya that did the lending?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 09:28:40 PM
Is it illegal for Equity Bank kenya to loan Uganda company - No. We know many kenya companies who have taken foreign commercial loans.
"Equity did not issue a loan from Uganda"

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What is that supposed to mean?

It was Equity Kenya that did the lending?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 25, 2021, 09:35:17 PM

Illegal?

Which law is against that?
Is it illegal for Equity Bank kenya to loan Uganda company - No. We know many kenya companies who have taken foreign commercial loans.
"Equity did not issue a loan from Uganda"

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What is that supposed to mean?

It was Equity Kenya that did the lending?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 25, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
You have been desperately pushing Aydin propaganda here without any facts. Let it rest. Aydin was an investor interested in starting fruit export business. Ruto helped a uganda investor borrow from Equity Bank. This information is corroborated by Equity Bank (2019 financial statement), Museveni and Dei Group. The drama was unnecessary.

What drama showed us - is the fear of Ruto and M7 association - and NIS probably has gone to dogs - or gov has become dysfunctional and political.

Illegal?
Which law is against that?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Kadudu on August 26, 2021, 09:16:47 AM
So who is not telling the truth? Ruto claims he called Equity Bank, mind you he does not mention whom he talked to and now Equity Bank denies having lent money to anyone in Uganda to put up a vaccine plant.

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Equity Bank Wednesday denied claims by Deputy President William Ruto that it loaned an unnamed investor Sh15 billion to set up a vaccine manufacturing factory in Uganda on his recommendation.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/equity-denies-sh15bn-r-uganda-vaccine-plant-3525258
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 10:25:54 AM
Kadudu you're very slow minded.Equity in their 2019 financial statements disclosure talks about lending Dei.Ruto in the interview clearly says two years ago he helped Ugandan to borrow from Equity and he recently invited him to grace the construction launch
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Kadudu on August 26, 2021, 10:40:46 AM
Pundit, you are very slow minded. Just read what the Equity executive told the house committee before jumping to conclusion.

Kadudu you're very slow minded.Equity in their 2019 financial statements disclosure talks about lending Dei.Ruto in the interview clearly says two years ago he helped Ugandan to borrow from Equity and he recently invited him to grace the construction launch
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 11:01:57 AM
Please moron, if you ask equity Bank the wrong questions they will answer it wrongly.Equity has no banking relationship with Aydin.Ruto never talked about Aydin.I watched the interview.He was asked what he was doing in Uganda few months ago.He clearly replied that 2yrs ago he assisted some east African to get loan from Equity Bank and as thank you the guy invited him to grace the occasion launch.Museveni confirms it too way back in July.Money was wired in Kenya to Uganda.This money 150m dollars was initially blocked by Uganda central bank for fear it was money laundering but museveni intervened.Equity bank confirm this in 2019 financial statement. Ruto assisted Magoola of Dei group...not Aydin with Equity. Ruto was taking Aydin to museveni for fruits project..a new project. That is best information we got.

So if you want to know who got the money - 150m dollars or Kshs 15b - it's Mathias Magoola - a Uganda chemist - who recently became a billionaire by tapping into Uganda or Congo minerals.The Mathias guy appears to be dodge - sold his mineral company to Indian company - and attempted to slice them. Has been accused of money laundering in India and Uganda...I guess he moving huge money

(https://deigroupinternational.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/20171204_10045411-300x300.jpg)

This tweet should be enough if you had the brains
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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2021, 11:22:35 AM
You have been desperately pushing Aydin propaganda here without any facts. Let it rest. Aydin was an investor interested in starting fruit export business. Ruto helped a uganda investor borrow from Equity Bank. This information is corroborated by Equity Bank (2019 financial statement), Museveni and Dei Group. The drama was unnecessary.

What drama showed us - is the fear of Ruto and M7 association - and NIS probably has gone to dogs - or gov has become dysfunctional and political.

Illegal?
Which law is against that?

What law exists against lending to foreigners?

You're full of shiet as usual.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 11:28:24 AM
Fala, what are you trying to say? Are you desperate to push nursery level propaganda in this esteemed site? Head to toilet.com or fakepuke or twirra. Here we deal with and only facts.

What law exists against lending to foreigners?

You're full of shiet as usual.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Kadudu on August 26, 2021, 11:33:52 AM
Please moron, I never mentioned Aydin anywhere in my comment. Why are you so obsessed with that man?

I am just quoting what the Equity Bank executive told the parliamentary committee. Not my own words. Equity says it never lent anyone money for such a facility. It even says the 15B Ksh surpasses its lending amount to a person or to an single entity.

Just read the article before ranting here.

Quote
Equity Uganda’s regulatory capital is about Sh9.8 billion and the law only allows an individual to borrow 25 percent of this amount, which would translate to Sh2.5 billion — way below the Sh15 billion that Dr Ruto had claimed was loaned to the investor.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2021, 11:34:07 AM
Fala, what are you trying to say? Are you desperate to push nursery level propaganda in this esteemed site? Head to toilet.com or fakepuke or twirra. Here we deal with and only facts.

What law exists against lending to foreigners?

You're full of shiet as usual.

Pole.it was a rhetorical question you posed.

Why is Itumbi saying Equity never advanced any funds?

Ch ck.out the black screenshot of his tweet quoting the Equity MD.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 11:36:18 AM
I have given you Equity Financial Statement of 2019 - what more do you want?
Pole.it was a rhetorical question you posed.

Why is Itumbi saying Equity never advanced any funds?

Ch ck.out the black screenshot of his tweet quoting the Equity MD.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 11:38:32 AM
You should concentrate on sweeping German roads. Hii maneno ingine is beyond your paygrade.

Below is Equity more official statement - Their 2019 Financial Disclosures - Go to page 28. Then search DEI+Ruto+Mathias+Museveni

https://www.equitybank.cd/EGH-PLC-2019-Integrated-Report-and-Financial-Statements_compressed.pdf

In
Uganda, Equity Bank has partnered with Dei Group Ltd,
a pharmaceutical company, to finance its expansion of
a pharmaceutical, biotech and research plant in order
to scale their capacity to manufacture and deliver
critical and effective drug solutions and to achieve their
goal of becoming the largest drug manufacturing plant
in Africa


Please moron, I never mentioned Aydin anywhere in my comment. Why are you so obsessed with that man?

I am just quoting what the Equity Bank executive told the parliamentary committee. Not my own words. Equity says it never lent anyone money for such a facility. It even says the 15B Ksh surpasses its lending amount to a person or to an single entity.

Just read the article before ranting here.

Quote
Equity Uganda’s regulatory capital is about Sh9.8 billion and the law only allows an individual to borrow 25 percent of this amount, which would translate to Sh2.5 billion — way below the Sh15 billion that Dr Ruto had claimed was loaned to the investor.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
I have given you Equity Financial Statement of 2019 - what more do you want?
Pole.it was a rhetorical question you posed.

Why is Itumbi saying Equity never advanced any funds?

Ch ck.out the black screenshot of his tweet quoting the Equity MD.

I've quoted Itumbi dismissing 15B claim allegedly on the strength of the MD's grilling.


Was there 15B loan?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 11:52:10 AM
This was last year. The money was borrowed from Equity Bank Kenya. Uganda Equity doesnt have the balance sheet to lend 150m dollars. That is why Magoola came looking for Ruto. Obviously it not just a phone call to James Mwangi - they must have put some security down. Obviously Ruto knowing how he operate is either involved directly or got his kickback

June 2010.
https://www.secondopinion.co.ug/fia-bosses-in-panic-over-possible-probe-after-freezing-various-bank-accounts/

Museveni said DeiPharma, a brainchild of Dr. Hassan Kyakulaga and others is supported by some African Banks such as Equity Bank of Kenya and that it will make the medicines the country needs and even export but that the owners have been frustrated by FIA. “Incredibly, three days ago, a group answering to the description of the so called Financial Intelligence Authority had closed 13 their Bank accounts claiming that they did not know where their money was coming from and what it was doing.

I've quoted Itumbi dismissing 15B claim allegedly on the strength of the MD's grilling.


Was there 15B loan?
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2021, 12:26:52 PM
This was last year. The money was borrowed from Equity Bank Kenya. Uganda Equity doesnt have the balance sheet to lend 150m dollars. That is why Magoola came looking for Ruto. Obviously it not just a phone call to James Mwangi - they must have put some security down. Obviously Ruto knowing how he operate is either involved directly or got his kickback

June 2010.
https://www.secondopinion.co.ug/fia-bosses-in-panic-over-possible-probe-after-freezing-various-bank-accounts/

Museveni said DeiPharma, a brainchild of Dr. Hassan Kyakulaga and others is supported by some African Banks such as Equity Bank of Kenya and that it will make the medicines the country needs and even export but that the owners have been frustrated by FIA. “Incredibly, three days ago, a group answering to the description of the so called Financial Intelligence Authority had closed 13 their Bank accounts claiming that they did not know where their money was coming from and what it was doing.

I've quoted Itumbi dismissing 15B claim allegedly on the strength of the MD's grilling.


Was there 15B loan?

Jump to 3:30

MD denies advancing 15B to neither the terrorist nor DeiPharma


Ruto was bullshitting

Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Nowayhaha on August 26, 2021, 12:27:32 PM
Kadudu, Vooke , Robina ...A chance for you to win half a Million.

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Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 02:12:32 PM
Yet you CANNOT JUMP TO RUTO VIDEO; CRAZY
Jump to 3:30

MD denies advancing 15B to neither the terrorist nor DeiPharma


Ruto was bullshitting


Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: Kadudu on August 26, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
Nowayhaha, asante but am not interested in stolen money.
No time did I mention Aydin. He is your Artur kind of investors.

Kadudu, Vooke , Robina ...A chance for you to win half a Million.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: GeeMail on August 26, 2021, 06:59:52 PM
This was last year. The money was borrowed from Equity Bank Kenya. Uganda Equity doesnt have the balance sheet to lend 150m dollars. That is why Magoola came looking for Ruto. Obviously it not just a phone call to James Mwangi - they must have put some security down. Obviously Ruto knowing how he operate is either involved directly or got his kickback

June 2010.
https://www.secondopinion.co.ug/fia-bosses-in-panic-over-possible-probe-after-freezing-various-bank-accounts/

Museveni said DeiPharma, a brainchild of Dr. Hassan Kyakulaga and others is supported by some African Banks such as Equity Bank of Kenya and that it will make the medicines the country needs and even export but that the owners have been frustrated by FIA. “Incredibly, three days ago, a group answering to the description of the so called Financial Intelligence Authority had closed 13 their Bank accounts claiming that they did not know where their money was coming from and what it was doing.

I've quoted Itumbi dismissing 15B claim allegedly on the strength of the MD's grilling.


Was there 15B loan?

Pundit you're a bit slow today. Why would Ruto be calling Equity in August 2021 about a 15b loan of last year???

The Equity MD denies receiving a call from Ruto. So who did Ruto call in Equity for a 15b loan? Equity financial statement cannot answer those questions. Ruto can hopefully. Equity has said its side of the story.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 07:14:13 PM
Jesus do we have to repeat 10 times! or 100 times!

Inooro FM: You were recently in Uganda meeting Museveni? What were you doing?

Ruto: You know, two years ago, an east african was sitting in the chair you're sitting in, he was looking for introduction to equity bank.

Ruto: I picked my phone and introduced them to bank - and ask them to assist the guy.

.....................2019 2020

.
.....................2021 July - Factory launched - he invited Ruto to launch - as appreciation for his role in the powerful call.

Interview August 2021


Pundit you're a bit slow today. Why would Ruto be calling Equity in August 2021 about a 15b loan of last year???

The Equity MD denies receiving a call from Ruto. So who did Ruto call in Equity for a 15b loan? Equity financial statement cannot answer those questions. Ruto can hopefully. Equity has said its side of the story.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: GeeMail on August 26, 2021, 07:31:57 PM
Ok. Get you now. Can he name the person who received his 15b call in Equity? It was not the MD.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: RV Pundit on August 26, 2021, 07:37:31 PM
The customer care agent of Equity Bank that were handling the phone that day two years ago. Hallo, hapo ni Equity Bank, yes. Okay mimi ni deputy president ya kenya, and tuko na jamaa hapa kutoka uganda, anataka loan, munaweza saidi yeye. Yes of course, kuja kwa office hapa Gikomba branch, jaza fomu, halafu baadaye ya masaa ishirina na nne, utapata loan. Wewe ni Member :)
Ok. Get you now. Can he name the person who received his 15b call in Equity? It was not the MD.
Title: Re: Baseless propaganda against Ruto and Equity get to parliament
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2021, 09:32:42 PM

EQUITY DENIES ADVANCING THE TERRORIST AND DEI 15 BILLION

WHERE DID RUTO PULL THE 15B FIGURE?

His nether parts
Yet you CANNOT JUMP TO RUTO VIDEO; CRAZY
Jump to 3:30

MD denies advancing 15B to neither the terrorist nor DeiPharma


Ruto was bullshitting