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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Gikomba_Hawker on August 11, 2021, 03:21:54 PM
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I mean, what is going on?
What has the Uhuruto government done to address the problem?
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/10/concern-grows-in-kenya-after-alarming-rise-in-suicide-cases
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Nice like that; You earned yourself a reputation point from me.
What is going on - ECONOMIC carnage from jobless/business loans/ reposed homes and from hospital bills.
The worse is mortgages worth 100B plus are in distress.
People are seeing lifetime investment being auctioned.
Gov should open up the economy and ask the banks to take some hit. Banks are making profit; and auctioning people properties.
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I went to visit this guys yard looking for a car. He took me to another yard. This yard is where he does business with banks. The law requires that a repossessed car be held in a secured storage for 14 days before it is auctioned. So he told me that this side of his business was booming so bad he couldn't in his wildest dreams had thought this is what would make him rich. The guy was telling me he has 3 other yards like those holding hundreds of cars he gets in a week. Bottomline uhuru has killed businesses and limited the ability of those that got involved in black market from making money.
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Yes - the worse is a mortgage - and auction - some of huge buildings - flats and name it. This why I don't take loans myself. The Insurance are jumping hospital bills - ICU for 20 days - you're kaput - 2-3million - and maybe you lose your job - then you lose your house - then you kill yourself
I went to visit this guys yard looking for a car. He took me to another yard. This yard is where he does business with banks. The law requires that a repossessed car be held in a secured storage for 14 days before it is auctioned. So he told me that this side of his business was booming so bad he couldn't in his wildest dreams had thought this is what would make him rich. The guy was telling me he has 3 other yards like those holding hundreds of cars he gets in a week. Bottomline uhuru has killed businesses and limited the ability of those that got involved in black market from making money.
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Don't be alarmed :D I don't get the taboo around suicide, for some it is the only viable escape from hellish existence.
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Kenya is hell right now. I have never seen people this desperate and depressed. The problem is morons are still having babies. How the fuck do you keep on having kids even when your income is not stable or guaranteed. The people who suffering women. Most of women in kenya have been left to take care of kids on their own by dead beats. Fuck it all men should get vasectomy after you had enough kids.
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I am for the weak and toxic taking themselves out. Makes them quite brave especially when they bow out alone without killing spouses and kids.
The virus required serious adjustment on fixed expenditures but not sure whether it is the religious virus where people on the cliff keep singing how their gods wont allow to stumble. Things will get better anthems when your tender godfathers are gasping for air. No tenants in rentals.
Worse is inability to change kids from expensive fees schools. This year has four terms and the fees is being increased. So for a generation used to live flashy lifestyles accepting that music is over will be suicidal. Worse when the women have been saving while the man was just balling.
Useless government treating the virus as a passing cloud will also kill many in ICUs- at least they bow out without suicide stigma.
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Don't be alarmed :D I don't get the taboo around suicide, for some it is the only viable escape from hellish existence.
It's not so much taboo as concern about the chaos and depression it leaves to loved ones. It's a cop out from a hellish existence that makes it even more hellish for the living.
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gov need to step in with some stimulus; suspend all development
I am for the weak and toxic taking themselves out. Makes them quite brave especially when they bow out alone without killing spouses and kids.
The virus required serious adjustment on fixed expenditures but not sure whether it is the religious virus where people on the cliff keep singing how their gods wont allow to stumble. Things will get better anthems when your tender godfathers are gasping for air. No tenants in rentals.
Worse is inability to change kids from expensive fees schools. This year has four terms and the fees is being increased. So for a generation used to live flashy lifestyles accepting that music is over will be suicidal. Worse when the women have been saving while the man was just balling.
Useless government treating the virus as a passing cloud will also kill many in ICUs- at least they bow out without suicide stigma.
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Mental health in Kenya is a huge problem. Where does one begin? Has anyone ever done an undercover YouTube video of Mathare Hospital? That would probably be a start.
God help Kenya.
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It's not so much taboo as concern about the chaos and depression it leaves to loved ones. It's a cop out from a hellish existence that makes it even more hellish for the living.
Chaos and depression is temporary, they got on with their lives in due course :D But departed at least get deliverance.
Eti cop out - typical liberal tosh, you believe those sob stories the press love quoting about relatives missing loved ones who killed themselves, don't believe it. They don't care, we are alone in this world, no one will provide for you, face your problems with you. Suicide should be looked at as an honorable exit from this nasty brutish place.
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Kenya is hell right now. I have never seen people this desperate and depressed. The problem is morons are still having babies. How the fuck do you keep on having kids even when your income is not stable or guaranteed. The people who suffering women. Most of women in kenya have been left to take care of kids on their own by dead beats. Fuck it all men should get vasectomy after you had enough kids.
Riiight! You are the only one who gets it, the rest are burying their heads in the sand. What is the point of procreation in a hellhole like ours? None! Just live out your miserable lives and be done with it. No need to bring another sentient being into existence to suffer needlessly. Don't feel bad for these women, they put themselves in those situations, they are very pro-natal religious knuckleheads who love popping out kids despite living on sewers and garbage dumps. Infectious diseases and viruses will take care of them rest assured.
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gov need to step in with some stimulus; suspend all development
Pesa zita toka wapi ? :D
Talk is cheap.
You think we are America which can print dollars and monetize their debts by selling bonds.
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When it comes to getting money for athletes, I asked Pundit whether he was involved in this effort but he has not replied:
Uproar After Poor Reception Of Kenyan Athletes At JKIA-Uganda Shines
https://diasporamessenger.com/2021/08/uproar-after-poor-reception-of-kenyan-athletes-at-jkia-uganda-shines/
:D :D :D
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gov need to step in with some stimulus; suspend all development
Pesa zita toka wapi ? :D
Talk is cheap.
You think we are America which can print dollars and monetize their debts by selling bonds.
I clearly said gov to forgo capital expenditures or development for stimulus package
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I clearly said gov to forgo capital expenditures or development for stimulus package
They can't pay counties what makes you think they was development budgets just sitting around.
MOst of the revenues collected have gone to debt interest repayments for the lunatic express 2.0, cinku is eating handsomely off the equity and sweat of wanjiku and the hustlers.
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Mental health in Kenya is a huge problem. Where does one begin? Has anyone ever done an undercover YouTube video of Mathare Hospital? That would probably be a start.
God help Kenya.
Why Mathare when you can go to Parliament and record it officially without any risk of getting your head bashed?
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You have a point there. :D
Mental health in Kenya is a huge problem. Where does one begin? Has anyone ever done an undercover YouTube video of Mathare Hospital? That would probably be a start.
God help Kenya.
Why Mathare when you can go to Parliament and record it officially without any risk of getting your head bashed?
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It's not so much taboo as concern about the chaos and depression it leaves to loved ones. It's a cop out from a hellish existence that makes it even more hellish for the living.
Chaos and depression is temporary, they got on with their lives in due course :D But departed at least get deliverance.
Eti cop out - typical liberal tosh, you believe those sob stories the press love quoting about relatives missing loved ones who killed themselves, don't believe it. They don't care, we are alone in this world, no one will provide for you, face your problems with you. Suicide should be looked at as an honorable exit from this nasty brutish place.
If anything, tolerance for suicide is a more liberal trait. They tend to have fewer taboos. Even then, not everything is a simplistic divide between liberal and conservative.
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Kenya is hell right now. I have never seen people this desperate and depressed. The problem is morons are still having babies. How the fuck do you keep on having kids even when your income is not stable or guaranteed. The people who suffering women. Most of women in kenya have been left to take care of kids on their own by dead beats. Fuck it all men should get vasectomy after you had enough kids.
Riiight! You are the only one who gets it, the rest are burying their heads in the sand. What is the point of procreation in a hellhole like ours? None! Just live out your miserable lives and be done with it. No need to bring another sentient being into existence to suffer needlessly. Don't feel bad for these women, they put themselves in those situations, they are very pro-natal religious knuckleheads who love popping out kids despite living on sewers and garbage dumps. Infectious diseases and viruses will take care of them rest assured.
A real conservative I guess. It's not your problem, until it is.
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If anything, tolerance for suicide is a more liberal trait. They tend to have fewer taboos. Even then, not everything is a simplistic divide between liberal and conservative.
You are right, I'm more of libertarian. On this issue I have seen both sides come out against it. The religious being most vehement against suicide.
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Possibly due to social media reporting everything mildly interesting. Same case with lost kids/people. There’s never a single day that passes without an Instagram/Twirra banner of a missing person
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A real conservative I guess. It's not your problem, until it is.
More like real nihilist :D
I'm not ashamed to say so.
This world is meaningless anyway, if you are not wallowing in pleasure by all means checkout.
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I hope officials in Kenya are now starting to take mental health seriously. I will believe it when I actually see something concrete.
Of those seeking healthcare across the country, a staggering one quarter have mental health conditions. And yet, despite this, Kenya’s Health Chief Administrative Secretary, Dr Rashid Aman indicated that expenditure on mental health is only 0.01% of the total health budget.
Makueni County is leading the way in integrating mental health services into broader community-based primary health care. The meeting agreed that Makueni’s approach now needed to be taken up by others.
Governors commit to action to improve mental health in Kenya
https://www.who.int/news-room/events/detail/2021/08/13/default-calendar/governors-commit-to-action-to-improve-mental-health-in-kenya
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This is very serious. I agree GoK should forego capex for stimulus. Rail, highway or pipeline can wait.
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About suicide, noone is given a choice at birth so why stop them? I believe in euthanasia and not just for terminal illness. Anyone with insurmountable problems should be not only allowed but facilitated to exit in dignity.
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Yes stimulus - like last year - asking banks to extends mortgages and loans - or gov to take up some of it. It is not fair to have someone build an entire lifetime of hardwork and see it gone...phew few months and their properties auctioned
Also covid restrictions should be voluntary - we recommend it but if you want to violate it - do it.
It should only protect people in public spaces - by insisting on masks in public - but why restrict movement at night? Why close bars?
This is very serious. I agree GoK should forego capex for stimulus. Rail, highway or pipeline can wait.
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Problems come and go. I hope you'd recommend the same to loved ones. Death is permanent. Life situations are temporary. Economic problems go away - people should be encouraged to stay on - to hang in there - and to scrawl out of any hole.
Most importantly people in this century should not die for economic reasons - gov should step in and provide a social safety net.
About suicide, noone is given a choice at birth so why stop them? I believe in euthanasia and not just for terminal illness. Anyone with insurmountable problems should be not only allowed but facilitated to exit in dignity.
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A real conservative I guess. It's not your problem, until it is.
More like real nihilist :D
I'm not ashamed to say so.
This world is meaningless anyway, if you are not wallowing in pleasure by all means checkout.
I find my meaning in human interactions, the struggles, the pains, the joys. Humanity is a social species, so for better or worse, outside of sociopaths, what happens to others tends to affect us.
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I find my meaning in human interactions, the struggles, the pains, the joys. Humanity is a social species, so for better or worse, outside of sociopaths, what happens to others tends to affect us.
That is all good, but you are a privileged middle class Kenyan who doesn't worry about his next meal or physical security. The majority of our compatriots are not so lucky. It is harsh existence out there. I still recall the security guard who committed suicide where I used to work, poor fella's wife gave birth to twins, he was taking ARV's for HIV, subsisting on a meager monthly 2 thousand shilling wage, it was all too much for him. He consumed rodent poison and kicked it. I was numb for weeks, I used to give him money for lunch and fare occasionally, the guy was smiling being jovial as usual the day before, you never know the pain someone is going through inside. I can't mask my feelings, I wear my heart on my sleeves. Existential depression is the worst. You see, while some find meaning in shagging smelly orifices and consuming tipple of questionable provenance others contemplate the utter meaningless of life when confronted by certain basic issues of existence.
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The mental health angle is an escapist route. Works well for governments as they are not accountable for economic mess. Or high costs of health, education, transport and all social services -safety nets provisions.
At an individual level, irresponsibility can easily be termed as mental health.