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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: veritas on August 08, 2021, 06:32:47 PM
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Which vaccine are you getting ?
I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.
There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.
What are your thoughts ?
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Try ivermectin instead.
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None. Women are more likely to get serious adverse reactions to all the vaccines.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/healthcare-workers-report-suffering-full-body-convulsions-after-covid-19-vaccines/
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Which vaccine are you getting ?
I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.
There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.
What are your thoughts ?
Take any. This virus keep mutating and at some point it may become resistant to any vaccine. However such will not happen as long as long as most get a vaccine.
Yes you can use whatever Arcadian recommended but be prepared for a new liver, or major organ after a few years.
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So why take a vaccine if clearly they are not working? Vaccinated people are superspreading the Delta now. How do you know vaccine effects will be any different from Arcadian's?
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Yes you can use whatever Arcadian recommended but be prepared for a new liver, or major organ after a few years.
Super fake news!
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So why take a vaccine if clearly they are not working? Vaccinated people are superspreading the Delta now. How do you know vaccine effects will be any different from Arcadian's?
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.
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I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.
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I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.
Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.
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Bring up your own statistics.
Btw, even your local hero Donald Trump got himself vaccinated while still in WH. He never trumpeted this to his worshipers.
Next time you get a headache, kindly run to the bush to get some recipie for the headache and not run to the pharmacy and reward big pharma. Are the deaths of people I know in the last few months also manipulated statistics?
Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.
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Pfizer has lower reported side effects and seems to be more effective than AstraZeneca. I got two shots of AstraZeneca and I’ll get Pfizer. I love the skepticism because that’s the only way raia gets a shot at the shot
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Bring up your own statistics.
Btw, even your local hero Donald Trump got himself vaccinated while still in WH. He never trumpeted this to his worshipers.
Next time you get a headache, kindly run to the bush to get some recipie for the headache and not run to the pharmacy and reward big pharma. Are the deaths of people I know in the last few months also manipulated statistics?
Fake, manipulated statistics. Big Pharma and lockstep media have been feeding people indoctrination they think government is here to save them.
Just take the any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing. In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.
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Just take any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing. In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.
That is a cavalier attitude, why not pause and look into the so called vaccine. Few things to ponder:
- COVID-19 injections are not necessarily vaccines, as we understand them, but rather an mRNA technology (on which there is no safety data).
- Covid vaccines contain lipid nanoparticles that have been shown to cause damage to reproductive systems, the brain, liver, kidney, and heart.
- The whole thing is experimental and untested hence the use of EUA's or Emergency Use Authorization powers which were passed so that they could get this injection into the public without FDA approval.
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I got two astrazeneca shots already. Had tried to source for Pfizer but couldn't get it anywhere in Kenya. There are news that Astra zeneca might have a longer protection than pfizer. But wow the side effects hits me like a tonne of bricks.
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Thought veri was previously a doctor... What's your view regarding waivers for vaccine injury?
The dinosaur in the room though is mandated medications where gov bureaucrats knock your door anytime with medicines without people subscription.
Last few decades were spent knocking down national sovereignty, establishing military bases all over, and getting into family and people heads through TV/social media.
Then they now come and knock down individual sovereignty with pandemics... someone called it going for last inch connectivity, more like our last mile KPLC meme
Looks like slippery slope by all means.
Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines. However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.
There are many lessons to learn from the way studies are conducted and results are presented. With the use of only RRRs, and omitting ARRs, reporting bias is introduced, which affects the interpretation of vaccine efficacy.10 When communicating about vaccine efficacy, especially for public health decisions such as choosing the type of vaccines to purchase and deploy, having a full picture of what the data actually show is important, and ensuring comparisons are based on the combined evidence that puts vaccine trial results in context and not just looking at one summary measure, is also important
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext
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Which vaccine are you getting ?
I'm leaning towards AstraZeneca because it's monkey DNA and less likely to be resistant.
There's so much hype about Pfizer which is probably the better vaccine and sounds better engineered but I'm not confident about it. The ingredients sound wishy washy to me. I also don't trust Pfizer with their data, I have a gut feeling they fabricated data.. inflated it's efficacy.
What are your thoughts ?
I did Pfizer. The name sounds cooler :D. I would have done AstraZeneca(sounds even cooler) but it is not so prevalent in neck of the woods.
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Thought veri was previously a doctor... What's your view regarding waivers for vaccine injury?
The dinosaur in the room though is mandated medications where gov bureaucrats knock your door anytime with medicines without people subscription.
Last few decades were spent knocking down national sovereignty, establishing military bases all over, and getting into family and people heads through TV/social media.
Then they now come and knock down individual sovereignty with pandemics... someone called it going for last inch connectivity, more like our last mile KPLC meme
Looks like slippery slope by all means.
You are still watching Fox, OAN and other right wing media in 2021 *SMDH*
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kenya gov forces civil servant to get a jab; that sounds like illegal.Personally I wont take it because I already got infected and recovered.
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Just take any damn vaccine that is available. It gives better protection than not doing any damn thing. In some people, the long term side effects of COVID is significant. There appears to be another variant that may be vaccine resistant, but its not been proven yet. As long as COVID is not controlled there will be new variants.
That is a cavalier attitude, why not pause and look into the so called vaccine. Few things to ponder:
- COVID-19 injections are not necessarily vaccines, as we understand them, but rather an mRNA technology (on which there is no safety data).
- Covid vaccines contain lipid nanoparticles that have been shown to cause damage to reproductive systems, the brain, liver, kidney, and heart.
- The whole thing is experimental and untested hence the use of EUA's or Emergency Use Authorization powers which were passed so that they could get this injection into the public without FDA approval.
From my experience MRNA has been in the works for the last 20 or so yrs.
If 5 out of 10k people die after vaccination its considered acceptable and that is true of any medication.
NOTE : Am giving you facts not Trump facts
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I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.
It's not the US as a whole though. There are rational people in America, believe it or not. But it also has the Republican party(presently an underrated existential threat to the US as we know it - in more ways than just anti-vax posturing).
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https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?cycle=2020&ind=H4300
This is the elephant in the room, the real invasion of DC. Trump is a poor excuse.
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I too am just amazed at how people create their own world. A good example is the US. Right now the southern states like Louisiana are experiencing the highest death rates and most hospitalisation of covid patients. These states have the lowest vaccination rates of around 37% compared to New Jersey with a vaccination rate of 59%. What more proof does one need.
Decide for yourself if you want to risk getting covid or at least minimise the risk of getting it but not landing in hospital. With the delta variant more young people under the age of 35 are now in intensive care unit.
Whoa!!!
A recent infection in MA saw 74 fully vaccinated people get COVID, but there was no serious disease progression. That is the news folks. You can choose arcadian news or real news. Its a free world. Even Aspirin kills.
It's not the US as a whole though. There are rational people in America, believe it or not. But it also has the Republican party(presently an underrated existential threat to the US as we know it - in more ways than just anti-vax posturing).
Yes.
Some people identify first as democrats/republicans, then lastly as human beings.
mrnA Covid vaccine was officially launched by Trump as operation warp speed. Then democrats were skeptical saying they could never partake anything which had not gone through due process
However when dems catch power, they role out trial vaccine on world...
How do this even qualify as informed consent:
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Its mind boggling Watching people suffering in FL. COVID is preventable, but when you dare it, India will look like a child's play.
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Its mind boggling Watching people suffering in FL. COVID is preventable, but when you dare it, India will look like a child's play.
I read Ivermectin saved many Indian lives though
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Its mind boggling Watching people suffering in FL. COVID is preventable, but when you dare it, India will look like a child's play.
I read Ivermectin saved many Indian lives though
Am not disputing that it did not. There are many therapies that have greatly worked for many people, but the efficacy of these therapies is extremely low. But they are better than nothing. one therapy I know that is highly touted is the use of D3 vitamins. Most peer reviewed literature out here states that it prevents serious progression of the disease. But this therapy takes months to get into your body system. Using it after getting COVID is useless.
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Mind you your immunity does not last forever. You can get it again especially now that there are new variants. It is recommened that you take a vaccine six months after recovering from covid.
kenya gov forces civil servant to get a jab; that sounds like illegal.Personally I wont take it because I already got infected and recovered.
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Yes, I will consider it from October/November - leaning towards taking Moderna one.
Mind you your immunity does not last forever. You can get it again especially now that there are new variants. It is recommened that you take a vaccine six months after recovering from covid.
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Vaccinated people are super-spreaders. Science explains it very well. You get vaccine - if one can call it so. It makes your body to start producing virus-like things when immunity kicks in. Does it stop you from getting sick even with the scariant you are vaccinated against? No. Does it stop you from spreading it to others? No. As long as you live you are virus factory. Immune system is a laser focused response. Scariants just pass like they are not known. Meanwhile if you have Covid certificate you can go anywhere - airports, schools, restaurants, bars, church - and infect everyone you come across. Then blame the unvaccinated who are innocent and are not sick. The vaccination experiment is just sick.
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