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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2021, 09:52:14 AM
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Anyone with a brain cell can see that 2022 is building up to be another 2007 unless action is taken.
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The abductions, the homicides, petty fights in matatus by makangas, bar brawls, road rage, the bitter by election battles - even the blind can feel the potholes we are on. ufool has to be resisted by all peaceful means for the one year. even he wants us to be dancing for him at state house we can, just so he does not trip us over the cliff he is placing us on.
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I looked into this matter and have to agree.
Covid19 is his preferred excuse. He's refused to collect Covax vaccines from UN/ Gavi. He's staging superspreader rallies and political meetings. He's vaccinated himself and all the allies he needs to deliberately infect citizens.
But it may not work. Once covid vaxx reaches 75% in the US at the end of this month, attention will turn to ending the pandemic outside the US. Europe will join in as no pandemic is over while some country has a huge number of victims. So that will end. I predict pfizer will come in powerfully and organize mass vaccination. That will end the Covid19 option.
His next course of action is civil war. I won't add to what Pundit has written.
Note that I have previously stated that when a country is heading to war, there are deniers but the majority form in their tribes, classes, units etc and all with unusual uniformity advocate for war.
Uhuru though is an empty Skull. He thinks he'll start a war and the generals continue to salute him as they suffer losses on the battlefield from former but defected colleagues. He will be the 1st casualty of that war. The military will extract every last coin and mortgage the vast Kenyatta holdings. Once spent they kill him by sending him to the front - Deby style
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Just to add
Obote was overturned by the military twice. On each occasion he courted them rather than left them to their civilian authority
All coups in Sudan have been a result of the president pandering to the military.
In Burma Nutjob Suukyi thought allowing the army to continue ringfenced corruption and killings would sap their energy and let her steal the rest with her party. But he forgot that there were still generals who believed the crowning moment of their coming of age is the Presidency.
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If I was kadudu too I won't believe having settled and invested everything In RV and burying the head in the sand.But the nasty truth is Kenya itawaka moto. Unless gatheca changes and surrenders.
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I don't think Kadudu and many people understand Kalenjin.They see things are calm on the surface - and only to come here like 2007 - and claimed to have been caught by suprised. Kalenjin don't fight - they go to war. That big difference.
Once they decide to go to war - everything changes in almost a splash. From dressing - to pretty much every thing - and nearly every kalenjin knows what needs to happen - and their role in the war. Each village will divide into 4 war companies. The are combined to form divisions and battalions. Each of these companies have specific roles - they are those who attack - those who cover - those who decoy - and those place in the middle. Almost all the battles will be fought at night -Kalenjin will attack from midnight to 3 am- when bullets from police or british army become useless- and when the enemy is tired or asleep. Unless is a friendly with say Maasai - the day time is spent resting, sleeping and feasting on the enemy cattle - and a few decoy boys left to keep the enemy busy.
The moment war cry is sounded. Every Kalenjin warrior immediately dress in shorts - and light clothing - arm themselves - and be in the village or location assembly point - almost within 30 minutes.
Rarely have Kalenjin as whole fought a war as community or even as entire tribe- it normally a village or two or division - like you see in those Narok skirmishes - they people near there are suppose to handle such ---it doesn't escalate beyond--- but when someone like Moi or Ruto - who has entire community (Koitatel only had Nandi - and not even whole of it) - then it become a 7M people war cry.
Now imagine in the entire Kalenjin - warrior class - that I estimate to number 2million - all mostly already trained on rudimentary military basics - fighting you. The women and elderly immediately take their role - women have to cook food and leave it on the road - and the NOBODY is allowed to speak - not an old man or church leader dissuading a warrior. You're to be silent. Warriors walk on the right of the road silent. Everyone else on the left of the road - Nobody is suppose to talk during war.
You cannot win - not in Kalenjin land. The British could not win against Nandis united by Koitatelel. How can you win against all the 10 kalenjin sub-tribes united almost to a man by Ruto?.
In 2007 - Kalenjin were helping a Luo - and were not as invested as they are with Ruto. This will be bigger than 2007. It will be the worst.
If I was kadudu too I won't believe having settled and invested everything In RV and burying the head in the sand.But the nasty truth is Kenya itawaka moto. Unless gatheca changes and surrenders.
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In 1992 - they didn't learn
The raiders were well organized
10 Exhibit 134 (a) Pg. 59 – 189.
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and co-ordinated. Their attacks were generally under the cover of
darkness, and where the attackers were in broad daylight, the
raiders would smear their faces with clay to conceal their identities.
The attackers targeted mainly the Kikuyu, but also the Kisii, the
Luhya, and the Luo, other non-Kalenjin and non-Maasai communities
were not spared. The attacks were barbaric, callous and calculated
to drive out the targeted groups from their farms, to cripple them
economically and to psychologically traumatize them. M
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2007 they learnt nothing
Various administrative officials and senior police officers in the North Rift who
testified before us reported that massive violence all across Uasin Gishu District
in particular, as well as in various parts of Nandi, and elsewhere erupted
suddenly immediately after the ECK announced the presidential results on 30
December. In Uasin Gishu, the violence entailed large marauding gangs of
1,000-2,000 Kalenjin youth, brandishing machetes, bows and poisonous arrows,
occasional firearms, matches and projectiles filled with petrol. These menacing
gangs blocked and manned a variety of roads with trees trunks and huge rocks,
some of which were transported by tractors, throughout the district. They also
burned vehicles and tyres while refusing to allow anyone to pass as well as
engaging in killing, rioting, and looting.13 This included numerous simultaneous
attacks and cutting off all five entrances to Eldoret town, other roads and
highways, as well as the main artery to Kisumu and Uganda, and beyond from
Timboroa to Turbo.
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He explained that “given the
42 Rift Valley PPO, CW 57.
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nature of the Kalenjin set up and cultural inculcation, when violence develops
into a situation akin to war then the entire community rises to defend itself.”43
Bill Ruto, a writer by profession, said: “The Kalenjins just like many other
pastoralist communities tend to be militarily organized and can respond to
perceived threats in an organized manner. This rapid and organized reaction is
what most people have confused for pre-planning of violence.”
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It very important for next election to be as credible as possible! To be as fair and free as can possibly be! For Ruto to lose as fairly as possible.
Because if that doesn't happen - Kalenjin as a whole will definitely go war. Within first 24 hours - Kenya police will be nowhere in Kalenjin land. All the roads in the entire regions will be blocked and barricaded - no movement will happen - so police cannot ask for reinforcement - KDF cannot handle situation that big either - unless they use airforce - and Uhuru will start calling for Kofi Annan - but he would be long dead.
Who will Kalenjin fight? I don't know - definitely the police, gov and anybody deemed to have supported the rigging.
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Kenyatta failed to govern. 2022 will end up in the liquidation of the Kenyatta dynasty and all others better run.
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Pundit and Omollo why do you sound war cries and beat war drums when your man is Deputy President? Apart from crying war, what practical reforms do you propose? Don't tell us. Tell your man who is second in command.
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Free, Fair and credible elections. That simple. Uhuru should ensure IEBC is ready and the courts are also ready. If not - he better employs at least another 0.5M police - because the 40,000 kenya police cannot stop a civil war.
Are we having free election - NOPE - UDA has been hounded for the last 4yrs - by Matiangi and Uhuru. That already means elections are getting rigged. UDA cannot meet aspirants, campaign, participate in by-elections - without POLICE VIOLENCE;
Now when UDA supporter reaches their BREAKING POINT and return back the violence - you'll come and cry to ICC.
Now continue testing the breaking or the boiling point.
Pundit and Omollo why do you sound war cries and beat war drums when your man is Deputy President? Apart from crying war, what practical reforms do you propose? Don't tell us. Tell your man who is second in command.
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Free, Fair and credible elections. That simple. Uhuru should ensure IEBC is ready and the courts are also ready. If not - he better employs at least another 0.5M police - because the 40,000 kenya police cannot stop a civil war.
Are we having free election - NOPE - UDA has been hounded for the last 4yrs - by Matiangi and Uhuru. That already means elections are getting rigged. UDA cannot meet aspirants, campaign, participate in by-elections - without POLICE VIOLENCE;
Now when UDA supporter reaches their BREAKING POINT and return back the violence - you'll come and cry to ICC.
Now continue testing the breaking or the boiling point.
If free elections are held no way Ruto wins.
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His supporters mainly in RV won't have any reason to fightback then - it has happened in 2002 and 2010 -and Ruto himself conceded defeat - and moved on. Ruto is very young - he merely 55yrs - and has 20 yrs more in politics.
What he and Kalenjin won't accept is to be rigged out - for once it happens - it will always happen.
If free elections are held no way Ruto wins.
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His supporters mainly in RV won't have any reason to fightback then - it has happened in 2002 and 2010 -and Ruto himself conceded defeat - and moved on. Ruto is very young - he merely 55yrs - and has 20 yrs more in politics.
What he and Kalenjin won't accept is to be rigged out - for once it happens - it will always happen.
It increasingly looks like Uthamaki wants to rig out not just Ruto but everyone else, in that case we will throw the kitchen sink at them. Kenya Kwisa wakati huo. No way Kenyatta hands over presidency peacefully in a free and fair elections. Something big has to give.
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Without the support of his community - he is done. He has already lost his own people. They don't see his battles as community battle - but personal kenyatta war - unlike Ruto and Raila who still have their own people. Kenyatta will be done politicially if loses Kiambaa and Mugua.
Then it's question on how move from there - recklessly incite a civil war he will be the biggest loser out of hubris - or be grateful for being pork for 10yrs - assist in holding peaceful election and transition.
His current stand of he will not hand over to a thief is basically inviting a civil war that he is almost 100 percent guranteed to lose big.
He need to quickly change tact - assist IEBC conduct credible elections and stop interfering with supreme court - because if people perceive the Koomes are biased - they won't go there and get predetermined judgment.
It increasingly looks like Uthamaki wants to rig out not just Ruto but everyone else, in that case we will throw the kitchen sink at them. Kenya Kwisa wakati huo. No way Kenyatta hands over presidency peacefully in a free and fair elections. Something big has to give.
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Without the support of his community - he is done. He has already lost his own people. They don't see his battles as community battle - but personal kenyatta war - unlike Ruto and Raila who still have their own people. Kenyatta will be done politicially if loses Kiambaa and Mugua.
Then it's question on how move from there - recklessly incite a civil war he will be the biggest loser out of hubris - or be grateful for being pork for 10yrs - assist in holding peaceful election and transition.
His current stand of he will not hand over to a thief is basically inviting a civil war that he is almost 100 percent guranteed to lose big.
He need to quickly change tact - assist IEBC conduct credible elections and stop interfering with supreme court - because if people perceive the Koomes are biased - they won't go there and get predetermined judgment.
He only needs state machinery, he doesn't need his community. He has been riding roughshod over everything by himself.
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It can't work - he would need Uganda like state machinery - and the police would have to murder a lot of people. Our tamed police and prov administration can no longer do that job -
He only needs state machinery, he doesn't need his community. He has been riding roughshod over everything by himself.
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This actually from my cousin wall;everyone with brain cell can tell how this is going to end
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Where were you when elections were being stolen in broadday light in 2013 and 2017? It is too late to demand the same when your man is not having the systemon his side.
As of your war mongering, the Kalejin do not have the sole rights of violence.
Free, Fair and credible elections. :D :D :DThat simple. Uhuru should ensure IEBC is ready and the courts are also ready. If not - he better employs at least another 0.5M police - because the 40,000 kenya police cannot stop a civil war.
Are we having free election - NOPE - UDA has been hounded for the last 4yrs - by Matiangi and Uhuru. That already means elections are getting rigged. UDA cannot meet aspirants, campaign, participate in by-elections - without POLICE VIOLENCE;
Now when UDA supporter reaches their BREAKING POINT and return back the violence - you'll come and cry to ICC.
Now continue testing the breaking or the boiling point.
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Well, as long as you are as prepared as they are, it will be an evenly matched fight, otherwise, you might come here and cry, yet I warned you. Obviously like I said every situation has its unique circumstance. This one will not be stone-throwing in Kondele or Kibra. You better be prepared - or call for free, fair and credible elections.
Where were you when elections were being stolen in broadday light in 2013 and 2017? It is too late to demand the same when your man is not having the systemon his side.
As of your war mongering, the Kalejin do not have the sole rights of violence.
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If we end up in ICC it is because someone got worriers and incited them to violence. A lot of evils are happening right now and no civil war. Joblessness, inflation, insecurity, crime... Why are you not beating war drums on this to your man who is Numero Deux? And all the best you can do is to sound war cries on politrix because your man is cornered. You need to be reminded that he got himself where he is. He had a good chance to be Numero Uno if he had played his role as Numero Deux and it would have been smooth all the way. Now he is #2 but not really so. By that he has messed up for himself and created a monster he cannot handle. His boss is a monster to him. His opponents have replaced him somehow. He has killed his own office of Numero Deux. He has killed the opposition by creating a vacuum that nature abhors. So Zamunda has neither a Numero Deux nor an opposition. he is not playing opposition either. he pretends to defend constitutionalism on a Constitution he opposed. He defends integrity when (Kichwa says) every Grade Two child knows who the thief is. He is his own worst enemy.
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Kenya is not yet a nation. It's a state - with many nations. We have Luo Nation, Kalenjin Nation, Mt Kenya nation, Somali Nation and the rest. Elections are big deal - and if mismanaged can lead to civil war. Salva Kir mismanaged and mishandled Machar - we told him - for free - that Nuer nation would not accept that - and he refused. He has set back south sudan 10yrs - back to stone age - and has had to returned Machar. We warned Ethiopia gov not go to war with Tigrays - who had already lost power and were minding their business - they didn't listen (it's like Kibaki following Kalenjin after they had hander power in 2002 - he created a big war in 2007 and reset the economy back to 2 percent he inherited from MOi) - now they are gnashing their teeth in a war they cannot win. The 5m tigrays in their highlands are doing damage - and have dug in the long run. Everyone is telling stupid Abbiy to negotiate, get hell out of tigray and save Ethiopia - but he aint listening - soon Tigray will be a break away nation. Everyone told US - they couldn't win in Vietnam, Afgan,Iraq- and they didn't listen. So many lifes and money later - they now clearly understand.
Now to Kichwa Mbaya - grade 2 - how Uhuru manages his transition - where the Kalenjin/Ruto nation are the main contenders - could as well determine whether kenya continues to be a progressive nation or like other Africa countries - is send back to stone age.
My free advice remain - conduct free, fair and credible elections - the whole process starting now - and recall the frustrated Matiangi from security - let every politician do their thing. Ruto can be beaten fairly. All they need to do is to UNITE against him. They can beat him squarely by doing a NASA 45 percent - and then go for 5 from the civil war in Jubilee party. They can achieve their political objective - without provoking war - by simply doing politics - and leaving independent institutions like police, iebcs and the courts to do the fair and free job.
So far Uhuru, Matiangi and Koome are definitely ICC suspects numbers 1), 2) and 3) for me. Koome might have killed the supreme court - which was created almost specifically to listen to presidential appeal.
If we end up in ICC it is because someone got worriers and incited them to violence. A lot of evils are happening right now and no civil war. Joblessness, inflation, insecurity, crime... Why are you not beating war drums on this to your man who is Numero Deux? And all the best you can do is to sound war cries on politrix because your man is cornered. You need to be reminded that he got himself where he is. He had a good chance to be Numero Uno if he had played his role as Numero Deux and it would have been smooth all the way. Now he is #2 but not really so. By that he has messed up for himself and created a monster he cannot handle. His boss is a monster to him. His opponents have replaced him somehow. He has killed his own office of Numero Deux. He has killed the opposition by creating a vacuum that nature abhors. So Zamunda has neither a Numero Deux nor an opposition. he is not playing opposition either. he pretends to defend constitutionalism on a Constitution he opposed. He defends integrity when (Kichwa says) every Grade Two child knows who the thief is. He is his own worst enemy.
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Where were you when elections were being stolen in broadday light in 2013 and 2017? It is too late to demand the same when your man is not having the systemon his side.
As of your war mongering, the Kalejin do not have the sole rights of violence.
Free, Fair and credible elections. :D :D :DThat simple. Uhuru should ensure IEBC is ready and the courts are also ready. If not - he better employs at least another 0.5M police - because the 40,000 kenya police cannot stop a civil war.
Are we having free election - NOPE - UDA has been hounded for the last 4yrs - by Matiangi and Uhuru. That already means elections are getting rigged. UDA cannot meet aspirants, campaign, participate in by-elections - without POLICE VIOLENCE;
Now when UDA supporter reaches their BREAKING POINT and return back the violence - you'll come and cry to ICC.
Now continue testing the breaking or the boiling point.
Bury your head in sand kabisa. All your investment s in RV will be audited. Ofcourse kalenjin don't have monopoly of violence but violence will be taking part in their heartland. Your guess is as good as mine what will happen. As a Mumeru I don't care anymore we ourselves are very okay we never go to other kabilas to buy land and settle. Our homelnad is our stronghold we won't have any sleepless nights. Unfortunately Mbaluja,Mogusii,Okuyu Will have to beba gondoro.
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What I can predict will happen if things go south ...Ruto will run to exile - on fears of his life - Machar style - he might actually go to Netherlands - and find himself an apartment next to ICC - or something like that.This way he will proof that he is not in any way involved in kalenjin war. Maybe he will be in Poland - with her daughter and the nigerian husband. The other time he took himself to Ocampo but Ocampo was not interested.
In any case all Ruto will need is to address international media - and put international pressure on kenya.
Coz Kalenjin war machine doesn't need him to do anything - it will self-activate.He was in Nairobi in 2007 doing ODM pressers. At some point desperate PNU claimed Ruto was sending coded language in those pressers :)
Kalenjin volcano will erupt. It will only be stopped when Kenya gov bring Ruto, repeat the election supervised by maybe the UN and swear him in.
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What I can predict will happen if things go south ...Ruto will run to exile - on fears of his life - Machar style - he might actually go to Netherlands - and find himself an apartment next to ICC - or something like that.This way he will proof that he is not in any way involved in kalenjin war. Maybe he will be in Poland - with her daughter and the nigerian husband. The other time he took himself to Ocampo but Ocampo was not interested.
In any case all Ruto will need is to address international media - and put international pressure on kenya.
Coz Kalenjin war machine doesn't need him to do anything - it will self-activate.He was in Nairobi in 2007 doing ODM pressers. At some point desperate PNU claimed Ruto was sending coded language in those pressers :)
Kalenjin volcano will erupt. It will only be stopped when Kenya gov bring Ruto, repeat the election supervised by maybe the UN and swear him in.
They will be crushed Tigray style. Cheza na Jeshi wewe. Be careful what you wish for, lest you lose more land to madoadoa. Arrows are no match for modern armour my fren. You will be decimated, no place to run it will be genocide. KDF will permanently occupy your farmlands like NEP with attendant abuses. Kuzidi you guys have no friends among other kabilas it will be open season on you similar to how Amhara militias went into Tigray and committed massacres.I pray that doesn't happen, I have many friends from that community. Bide your time, if Ruto doesn't get it as you say he is young another time will come. You already had 21 years of rule, it would be churlish for you guys to create another msukosuko because your power hungry.
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Kalenjins are arseholes that are primitive. Fuck them people
We kikuyus will rule them until they become civilized
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If the mighty British could not beat the Nandi for 11yrs in 1900 - pray how will KDF do it now (remember British fighting Nandis were EAAR/KAR - which later became KDF) :) :) - I mean the KDF cannot beat Pokots to this day - leave alone Kalenjin entire community stretching 10 counties from Narok to West Pokot - KDF only manage to handle the tiny Mt Elgon Sabaot - SDLF had already defeated police and GSU. Underestimate the Kalenjin war machine at your own cost. If it comes to acquiring modern weapons - firearms - that is pretty easy. There is more to war than weaponry.
They will be crushed Tigray style. Cheza na Jeshi wewe. Be careful what you wish for, lest you lose more land to madoadoa. Arrows are no match for modern armour my fren. You will be decimated, no place to run it will be genocide. KDF will permanently occupy your farmlands like NEP with attendant abuses. Kuzidi you guys have no friends among other kabilas it will be open season on you similar to how Amhara militias went into Tigray and committed massacres.I pray that doesn't happen, I have many friends from that community. Bide your time, if Ruto doesn't get it as you say he is young another time will come. You already had 21 years of rule, it would be churlish for you guys to create another msukosuko because your power hungry.
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Ndoto ya mchana. Kalenjin are now about 7m against kikuyu 8m. In the next decade Kalenjin will be equal in population with kikuyus. It's likely the reverse will happen :). You're joking with fire. This is no 1990s - Kabila ndogo la Moi - BBC use to say.
Kalenjins are arseholes that are primitive. Fuck them people
We kikuyus will rule them until they become civilized
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Even if 10m Kalejin, all apart from 100K crammed in parts of RV. Who will you terrorise? In 95% of Kenya you have no say. Only one Kalejin MP outside RV and that by accident.
Tell the warriors to lay low like envelopes as for this time they will not have the majority of Kenyans on their side the day they decide to cause havoc.
I have mentioned to you several times, never count on a Kikuyu ready to loose his life for the sake of a Ruto presidency.
Ndoto ya mchana. Kalenjin are now about 7m against kikuyu 8m. In the next decade Kalenjin will be equal in population with kikuyus. It's likely the reverse will happen :). You're joking with fire. This is no 1990s - Kabila ndogo la Moi - BBC use to say.
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I don't speak to warriors. I am political pundit; analyzing politics, events, both locally and abroad;
When I analyze RV politics - I am not speaking as a warrior - :) my ageset is no longer the warrior group anyway.
100K? Outside - but they are at least 3-4m out of 10m non-native residents in RV - I am talking about 1M Luhyas, 1M kikuyus, maybe 200K Gusiis, about similar number of Luos and others - mostly settled in Kalenjin.
In fact - the reason Kalenjin will fight - is because they have 100K people outside - so any revenge attacks will be minimal. If they were spread all over - they won't be trigger or arrow happy.
That is huge leverage that Kalenjin have - and they have pulled that hostage card in 92, 98 (when Kibaki attempted to go to Court of Appeal) and 2007.
I don't think Kalenjin need anybody to fight for them - refer again to 92 - when Kabila ndogo la Moi was fighting all the major tribes.
This is the leverage Ruto has - that Raila doesn't - and this is why Mt Kenya people are also very careful.
Even if 10m Kalejin, all apart from 100K crammed in parts of RV. Who will you terrorise? In 95% of Kenya you have no say. Only one Kalejin MP outside RV and that by accident.
Tell the warriors to lay low like envelopes as for this time they will not have the majority of Kenyans on their side the day they decide to cause havoc.
I have mentioned to you several times, never count on a Kikuyu ready to loose his life for the sake of a Ruto presidency.
Ndoto ya mchana. Kalenjin are now about 7m against kikuyu 8m. In the next decade Kalenjin will be equal in population with kikuyus. It's likely the reverse will happen :). You're joking with fire. This is no 1990s - Kabila ndogo la Moi - BBC use to say.