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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nowayhaha on May 21, 2021, 07:55:26 AM

Title: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 21, 2021, 07:55:26 AM
UDA should just let MK fight it out with Jubilee . They got it right in Juja . Thats the winning formula in Kiambu . Bearing in Mind its close proximity to Nairobi and having a substantial number of outside voters.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2021, 08:53:52 AM
Ruto should stay out of it because desperate Uhuru will be making his presence known this time round. It's going to be his last-ditch effort - and if he loses - he will be Knocked OUT completely in Mt Kenya.

So indeed letting Moses Kuria deal with him makes sense. Unless UDA have strong candidates - then like London Ward - both UDA/PEP - can compete and beat Jubilee.

UDA can go for Muguga MCA.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nefertiti on May 21, 2021, 02:39:29 PM
It probably not that easy - once Kuria wins 2 MPs he might take over Kikuyu yote and refuse to step down for UDA. Ruto sees it as a risk. Ruto so far has managed to upstage Uhuru by fronting Kurias and Wahomes. Containing authentic local like Kuria can be very difficult.

Isn't Muguga ward in Kiambu?
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 21, 2021, 02:43:58 PM
UDA should just let MK fight it out with Jubilee . They got it right in Juja . Thats the winning formula in Kiambu . Bearing in Mind its close proximity to Nairobi and having a substantial number of outside voters.
They will mess this saw the same thing.wawache tamaa
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Kadudu on May 21, 2021, 02:49:31 PM
Moses Kuria for president.
We need a sober politician in SH like him. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nefertiti on May 21, 2021, 03:06:27 PM
Murathe Reveals Details of His Secret Talk With Moses Kuria After he Won Juja By-election

https://ke.opera.news/ke/en/politics/492b963f74f78e3c6948548abf7965fc
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2021, 03:28:11 PM
He could win the race to be Ruto DPORK; but his presence has to go beyond KIAMBU; Mt Kenya need somebody who can unite 11 counties;

I think Uhuru will play hard in Kiambaa - it's Koinange's little fiefdom - and so dynasties will make their presence felt.

But Muguga is MCA - so Uhuru will find it beneath him to go there.

End of the day - very tricky for Ruto - he need to avoid Uhuru - and leave him to Mt Kenya to finish him on their own.

Otherwise Uhuru will cry - he is disrepecting me bla bla underminning me bla bla  - which goes against Ruto 4yrs strategy that has been very successfully of turning the other cheek.

It probably not that easy - once Kuria wins 2 MPs he might take over Kikuyu yote and refuse to step down for UDA. Ruto sees it as a risk. Ruto so far has managed to upstage Uhuru by fronting Kurias and Wahomes. Containing authentic local like Kuria can be very difficult.

Isn't Muguga ward in Kiambu?
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 24, 2021, 09:46:52 AM

Ruto comes in and prevails.

Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 24, 2021, 10:46:06 AM
I thought they would have let it marinate first before doing this. Anyway now we have binary choice - it now head to head - btw Uhuru and Ruto in kiambaa. Uhuru must win this. Ruto must win this.
 

Ruto comes in and prevails.

Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nefertiti on May 24, 2021, 01:27:30 PM
Ruto has much more to lose than Uhuru. Losing to Jubilee would be very bad for UDA.

I thought they would have let it marinate first before doing this. Anyway now we have binary choice - it now head to head - btw Uhuru and Ruto in kiambaa. Uhuru must win this. Ruto must win this.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 24, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Actually no. Ruto will limp along because Uhuru can only win by POINTS. For Uhuru he is in for a mortal blow - a TKO. He is already down...and this is where the referee..is counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8(Ruiri), 9(Juja)...and Uhuru wakes up....and Kiambaa happens...and now he either wins by point (against Ruto) as this probably the last by-election....or he is TKOED.

For Ruto - he can always blame rigging :) by Matiangi - and the violence we shall soon see - and UDA having won many of GEMA battles - it's no TKO.

Uhuru has set himself up for his final battle - before everyone abandon Jubilee or stay put. If Uhuru wins - the fight continues. If Uhuru loses - Uhuru only option is to reconcile with Ruto and try run ahead of GEMA - and pretend he was playing Raila - otherwise he will be like Moi - and Kalenjin in sunset days - once beloved - now almost hated.

Ruto has much more to lose than Uhuru. Losing to Jubilee would be very bad for UDA.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: Nefertiti on May 24, 2021, 02:06:50 PM
OK - but Ruto is leading nowhere else but URP and Gema. Losing there is bad. He is not in competition with Uhuru but Raila. And Kuria will say PEP would have won.

Actually no. Ruto will limp along because Uhuru can only win by POINTS. For Uhuru he is in for a mortal blow - a TKO. He is already down...and this is where the referee..is counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8(Ruiri), 9(Juja)...and Uhuru wakes up....and Kiambaa happens...and now he either wins by point (against Ruto) as this probably the last by-election....or he is TKOED.

For Ruto - he can always blame rigging :) by Matiangi - and the violence we shall soon see - and UDA having won many of GEMA battles - it's no TKO.

Uhuru has set himself up for his final battle - before everyone abandon Jubilee or stay put. If Uhuru wins - the fight continues. If Uhuru loses - Uhuru only option is to reconcile with Ruto and try run ahead of GEMA - and pretend he was playing Raila - otherwise he will be like Moi - and Kalenjin in sunset days - once beloved - now almost hated.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 24, 2021, 02:12:54 PM
It will be bad for Ruto but not tragic. For Uhuru it's the end game.He would have been totally rejected - that will be three by-elections in Kiambu - Juja,Kiambaa, and Muguga - all have significant Kenyatta roots. Juja is basically an extension of Gatundu. Kiambaa is Koinange extended family fiefdoom.Muguga is where Jomo Kenyatta was raised by the Magana family (his uncle).  It doesn't get better than this.

For Uhuru to lose Juja, Kiambaa and Muguga, would be to lose his family, home county, Kikuyu nation, GEMA nation and KENYA.

It very mortal. In fact he need to withdrew from the race :) if he sense defeat. After such a defeat...he will be lameduck...and should busy himself with post-retirement counselling .

OK - but Ruto is leading nowhere else but URP and Gema. Losing there is bad. He is not in competition with Uhuru but Raila. And Kuria will say PEP would have won.
Title: Re: Seems UDA & Moses Kuria Are Fighting On How To Approach Kiambaa By Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on May 24, 2021, 05:42:01 PM
Uhuru forces Koinange Paul niece to toe the Jubilee line