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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on May 15, 2021, 08:33:34 AM
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I know soon we will hear Peter Kenneth/Kabogo deputizing Raila : :) :) bla bla bla
Re: Peter Kenneth- Is it by default or by design???????
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 01:36:28 PM »
Kenneth is lone ranger who is not going anywhere in politics. He should have gone for governor seat in 2013 on the back of his gatanga profile. Now he has left it too late to win Nairobi or Muranga - such a shame to see such potential governor go to waste. The guy with mutua of machakos are the right kind of governors we need.
As for 2022 - I am not sure how he threaten Ruto chance -- uhuru will pick the guy to deputize ruto - and so far mwangi Kiunjiri seem to be running away with that
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The last idiot Ruto worked with was Raila - and he will not repeat such a mistake
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If pk had brains he would have gone for muranga governor and would now be like mutua.going for second time..then 2022 he go to dpork..or even pork.Now the fool less than yr election is still deciding on 3 counties.Ruto doesn't work with fools like Kenneth or madvd.Kiunjuri is not polished but he is no fool.politics at highest level requires brains and lots of money.Right now Ruto only fear is a frustrated Raila pulling 2002 where luos back kikuyu upstart like Martha just to spite on Ruto...that has happened before so Rutoh is probably thinking about..otherwise uhuru is committed to see through rutoh pork
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Mwangi James of equity has thick accent but performs. I think Kiunjuri fits the bill. He has 7yrs to work on his image as cabinet secretary & work central/gema votes and then 10yrs as dpork to build his national base. Kenneth and Kagwe -I disagree--this isn't a beauty competition -- but a political competition - and you need smart politicians like kiunjuri.
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Kabogo seem to want in : posturing by pretending to go for PORK; he had Kiambu for taking. But maybe Uhuru will offer Kabogo to Ruto?
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Kabogo has been trying to build a new image. He has no traction. Camt happen , wont happen.
Kabogo seem to want in : posturing by pretending to go for PORK; he had Kiambu for taking. But maybe Uhuru will offer Kabogo to Ruto?
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He had Kiambu governorship for taking.
Kabogo has been trying to build a new image. He has no traction. Camt happen , wont happen.
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Who is talking about Kiunjuri? I have never met one single kikuyu who mentions him as becoming anything in Kikuyuland. I only see Kiunjuri mentioned here mostly by you and the Meru character. Try to mention this team on Facebook or Twitter, the reaction is almost violent. I think Kenyans this time around will shock you, they are tired of this tribal nonsense. There is nothing that would please Kenyans than to slay both Kikuyus and Kalenjins at the same time!!!! For me, I would like to see Kikuyus and kalenjins and their thieving hustling nonsense defeated and left out of government for at least two terms. The election cannot come soon enough, it’s going to be fun.
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If Kenyans did not beat the last 3 elections - what magic will you use this time around. BBI is out. But you can probably clandestinely re-start BBi process by strictly following high court rulling - as long as you don't touch protected chapters.
Who is talking about Kiunjuri? I have never met one single kikuyu who mentions him as becoming anything in Kikuyuland. I only see Kiunjuri mentioned here mostly by you and the Meru character. Try to mention this team on Facebook or Twitter, the reaction is almost violent. I think Kenyans this time around will shock you, they are tired of this tribal nonsense. There is nothing that would please Kenyans than to slay both Kikuyus and Kalenjins at the same time!!!! For me, I would like to see Kikuyus and kalenjins and their thieving hustling nonsense defeated and left out of government for at least two terms. The election cannot come soon enough, it’s going to be fun.
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Two words, rigging and incumbency.
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Raila Doctrine....masquarader....
Two words, rigging and incumbency.
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Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
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When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
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I know you're desperate to reach my level, but you cannot even wash my feet; When did I indicate that Kabogo was a serious candidate. He is only 'serious' as kiambu candidate - and perhaps as Uhuru's guy - for now.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
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Clearly you're a bit obtuse because I have opined on Mwangi Kiunjuri as far back as 2016.
The person who will be selected to deputize Ruto has to have some semblance of support - especially from Ruto leaning Mps in Mt Kenya.
That person is Mwangi Kiunjuri.
Your tharaka boy Prof Kindiki is good spare part but still a long way to become DPORK.
Maybe Alice Wahome of Muranga? But not well known - so she will end up in cabinet.
Therefore Mwangi Kiunjuri still the man to beat
1) He is the engine behind the scenes in mt Kenya rebellion. I think he easily has the support of most mps/mca - except maybe Moses Kuria doing his thing.
2) He was the engine that fell many of his competitors like Kabogos in 2017.
3) He doesn't come from Kiambur or Nyeri - I believe it's battle btw Muranga and diaspora. Kiunjuri wraps the diaspora - and has connection to Nyeri-Kirinyanga.
4) He is a Kikuyu - sorry but Kenya still a Kikuyu colony :) and since independence Kikuyu has to be either VP or PORK- Merus and Embus have to wait a little longer - but definitely Kindiki will become Speaker of Senate - and Meru-Embu will have good number of positions in gov.
5) Very experienced politician whom Kikuyu nation will trust...having been in parliament since 1997.
What Mwangi Kiunjuri need to do is wait for Uhuru move -before he fold his tissue paper party that lacks traction - and join Hustler Nation proper.
Ruto already has signed 50-50 MOu with Kiunjuri.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
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Pundit you are a Kalenjin you don't see me and noway dictating you RV manenos when we tell you about mt.kenya better respect you have 0 ideas this side. Dont be like a child getting so excited because of candy there is more to come you behaving like ODM
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I am an analyst or a pundit. I am the mirror. That is what I do. I am not saying Kiunjuri is the BEST candidate for Mt Kenya. I am trying to read Ruto moves here. And from 2016 - it been clearly - Mwangi Kiunjuri is the CHOSEN ONE.
I don't speak with Ruto neither do I advice him - but my money remain WIlliam Ruto- Mwangi Kiunjuri ticket. Prof Kindiki has 10% chance.
Now don't hate the mirror - Mt Kenya people need to organize themsleves and identify a better leader than Mwangi Kiunjuri - Moses Kuria from Gatundu SOuth is out by technicality - Prof Kindiki come from little tharaka tribe - and Raila may be keen to pick a Kikuyu like Peter Kenneth. Kabogo-Uhuru has Moses Kuria kind of problem - Kiambu cannot replace Kiambu.
Susan Kihika we already made her Nakuru governor in waiting. So who else? Maybe Meru Mthika Linturi :) - I think Ruto will want him in his kitchen cabinet - doing deals with Farouk Kibet and screwing women like Kaittany .
Pundit you are a Kalenjin you don't see me and noway dictating you RV manenos when we tell you about mt.kenya better respect you have 0 ideas this side. Dont be like a child getting so excited because of candy there is more to come you behaving like ODM
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When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
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Njuri - me and you - we are nobodies - not even MCAs. Please give us as Mt Kenya who you want to deputize Ruto. Who? Martha Karua? Wa Iria? or should Ruto pick first time mps like Ndindi Nyoro :)
Mwangi Kiunjuri is the MAN. Just wait and see.
I don't advice Ruto. I read and anticipate his political moves.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mindbon something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people lile pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
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Pundit you are a Kalenjin you don't see me and noway dictating you RV manenos when we tell you about mt.kenya better respect you have 0 ideas this side. Dont be like a child getting so excited because of candy there is more to come you behaving like ODM
It took RV Pundit 2 full years to accept Uhurutopia was dead. But one ruling which is appeallable and he is drunk with power. I think the BBI crew should accept new reality and back one of the katikati flowergirls. But there is a chance these BBI shenanigans will run into extra time.
Anyway it is okay for Pundit to overdrink for few days. He claims to be a covid survivor but I suspect he was just depressed over Ruto travails.
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Njuri - me and you - we are nobodies - not even MCAs. Please give us as Mt Kenya who you want to deputize Ruto. Who? Martha Karua? Wa Iria? or should Ruto pick first time mps like Ndindi Nyoro :)
Mwangi Kiunjuri is the MAN. Just wait and see.
I don't advice Ruto. I read and anticipate his political moves.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mindbon something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people lile pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
Martha Karua is a good mention,trust me she now has lots of respect across the mountain. Merus,Embus and majority of kikuyu won't have a problem,Alice Wahome is another,Equity guy too among many,see you know many people that can be clean but you have this obsession with Mwangi Kiunjuri acroos board pro and anti Ruto mlima people here agree on one thing-Kiunjuri is a non starter,thats why you should take this seriously dont degrade me and Noway when we tell you thos stuff,kabogo Kiunjuri are all considered the same. The problem Ruto has is Martha Karua would she want to be DP but there is Alice wahome. Ruto has to trend carefully otherwise listening to you shout Kiunjuri you will mislead him just like you milsead him on the by elections and exposed him like I warned to his enemies but am Sure Ruto is much smarter.
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Pundit you are a Kalenjin you don't see me and noway dictating you RV manenos when we tell you about mt.kenya better respect you have 0 ideas this side. Dont be like a child getting so excited because of candy there is more to come you behaving like ODM
It took RV Pundit 2 full years to accept Uhurutopia was dead. But one ruling which is appeallable and he is drunk with power. I think the BBI crew should accept new reality and back one of the katikati flowergirls. But there is a chance these BBI shenanigans will run into extra time.
Anyway it is okay for Pundit to overdrink for few days. He claims to be a covid survivor but I suspect he was just depressed over Ruto travails.
I was very surprised with Pundit endless celebrations and belittling Noway and I knowing clearly that we are dealing with Uhuru who is drunk with power. For starters Mudavadi has a very good plan no need of appealing start it afresh as per what the judges want. Gatheca if was to follow on this we could again be forced to a referendum by December this year or even January. however appealing the ruling is a waste of time and wont work. We just need to watch Gatheca gameplan already he is in Djibouti where there is a president for life being sworn in this tells you he will play rough. Its too early to celebrate.
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Yes BBI can be rescued if Uhuru can summon 2/3 mps and senators to pass BBI minus all the protected sections. They can begin to draft parliamentary initiatives but it better have nothing on the executive or judiciary.
I was very surprised with Pundit endless celebrations and belittling Noway and I knowing clearly that we are dealing with Uhuru who is drunk with power. For starters Mudavadi has a very good plan no need of appealing start it afresh as per what the judges want. Gatheca if was to follow on this we could again be forced to a referendum by December this year or even January. however appealing the ruling is a waste of time and wont work. We just need to watch Gatheca gameplan already he is in Djibouti where there is a president for life being sworn in this tells you he will play rough. Its too early to celebrate.
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Good to see you back!
You recovered so fast from 22 vibokos; Appeallable :) - academically yes - but in reality - there are 22 hurdles you need to jump :) to overturn high court 5 bench rulling that has send reverberation through the world.
I am not sure if it's worth wasting more time on BBI - core stuff are gone forever - like PM/DPM (executive is protected basic structure) - or constituencies - or judiciary.
The smart one will focus on 2022....it's merely one year away!
It took RV Pundit 2 full years to accept Uhurutopia was dead. But one ruling which is appeallable and he is drunk with power. I think the BBI crew should accept new reality and back one of the katikati flowergirls. But there is a chance these BBI shenanigans will run into extra time.
Anyway it is okay for Pundit to overdrink for few days. He claims to be a covid survivor but I suspect he was just depressed over Ruto travails.
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Which level Pundit , You use you alot of words and meander alot sometimes hitting a point. Many a times Ive brought you back to seeing the actual points.
Honestly when you go on a rampage its hard to differentiate between you and Robina. I think you are the same same whatsup group.
I know you're desperate to reach my level, but you cannot even wash my feet; When did I indicate that Kabogo was a serious candidate. He is only 'serious' as kiambu candidate - and perhaps as Uhuru's guy - for now.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
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Pundit stop pretendance, when you were saying Muranga through WaIria might rebel against Ruto and front and vote for their own , I told you that the place Ruto might get defiance is Kiambu because of Uhuru factor.
This was confirmed by how Muranga celebrated the BBI judgement.
Same mistake Moi did thinking by capturing Kiambu through Uhuru 2002 he had captured the rest of Mt Kenya. Kiambu went ahead and voted for Uhuru rest of Mt Kenya and Diaspora went ahead and voted for Kibaki.
Raila unified Mt Kenya in 2005 and 2007 , He is trying to divide them using Uhuru, will he succeed , I dont think so but that has been his strategy all along. PLAN A, PLAN A.
I am an analyst or a pundit. I am the mirror. That is what I do. I am not saying Kiunjuri is the BEST candidate for Mt Kenya. I am trying to read Ruto moves here. And from 2016 - it been clearly - Mwangi Kiunjuri is the CHOSEN ONE.
I don't speak with Ruto neither do I advice him - but my money remain WIlliam Ruto- Mwangi Kiunjuri ticket. Prof Kindiki has 10% chance.
Now don't hate the mirror - Mt Kenya people need to organize themsleves and identify a better leader than Mwangi Kiunjuri - Moses Kuria from Gatundu SOuth is out by technicality - Prof Kindiki come from little tharaka tribe - and Raila may be keen to pick a Kikuyu like Peter Kenneth. Kabogo-Uhuru has Moses Kuria kind of problem - Kiambu cannot replace Kiambu.
Susan Kihika we already made her Nakuru governor in waiting. So who else? Maybe Meru Mthika Linturi :) - I think Ruto will want him in his kitchen cabinet - doing deals with Farouk Kibet and screwing women like Kaittany .
Pundit you are a Kalenjin you don't see me and noway dictating you RV manenos when we tell you about mt.kenya better respect you have 0 ideas this side. Dont be like a child getting so excited because of candy there is more to come you behaving like ODM
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He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
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My record of punditry speak for itself.I stick my neck out while nowayaha n most of are afraid and engage in postmortem and then pretend like they know shiet.my money is on kiunjuri.You have failed to name your deputy candidate.I have absolutely no desire to work for public sector in any capacity
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He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can read the mind of mwafrika easily. I have never seen Ruto except in downtown Nairobi when building next to nation was burning..I saw him n Uhuru matching..I could tell Uhuru is tall n Ruto is short...I was like 20 meters ..first n last time I have seen them outside TV
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Ngatia was in AGs chambers ( state law office )for many years probably even before you were born. Come on Pundit a little background research will give you this information.
Being so good in "history" what makes you make such mistakes ?
He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can the mind of mwafrika easily
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Ngayia was in AGs( state law office )for many years probably even before you were born. Come on Pundit a little background reaearch will give you this information.
Being so good in "history" what makes you make such mistakes ?
He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can the mind of mwafrika easily
junior state attorney in 1980s... that I bet most lawyer started that way..he cut his teeth as commercial lawyer..in fact before petition of 2013 I didn't know him..
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And you claim you know what happens in corridors of Justice ? There you go..........
Ngayia was in AGs( state law office )for many years probably even before you were born. Come on Pundit a little background reaearch will give you this information.
Being so good in "history" what makes you make such mistakes ?
He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can the mind of mwafrika easily
junior state attorney in 1980s... that I bet most lawyer started that way..he cut his teeth as commercial lawyer..in fact before petition of 2013 I didn't know him..
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And you claim you know what happens in corridors of Justice ? There you go..........
Ngayia was in AGs( state law office )for many years probably even before you were born. Come on Pundit a little background reaearch will give you this information.
Being so good in "history" what makes you make such mistakes ?
He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can the mind of mwafrika easily
junior state attorney in 1980s... that I bet most lawyer started that way..he cut his teeth as commercial lawyer..in fact before petition of 2013 I didn't know him..
strawman argument.i know judges based on their court ruling on important cases.i am not a lawyer.i am a software engineer.All the laws I know I learnt in 90s reading my lawyer student neighbors as high school student...mostly prof ojwang..he seemed to be every where in UON undergraduate notes.The one I most remember was written the laws of tort or something like that by JB ojwang
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Who is talking about Kiunjuri? I have never met one single kikuyu who mentions him as becoming anything in Kikuyuland. I only see Kiunjuri mentioned here mostly by you and the Meru character. Try to mention this team on Facebook or Twitter, the reaction is almost violent. I think Kenyans this time around will shock you, they are tired of this tribal nonsense. There is nothing that would please Kenyans than to slay both Kikuyus and Kalenjins at the same time!!!! For me, I would like to see Kikuyus and kalenjins and their thieving hustling nonsense defeated and left out of government for at least two terms. The election cannot come soon enough, it’s going to be fun.
Precisely. He thinks the infamous tyranny of numbers will throne his tribal mwizi. He is in a for a rude awakening, who moved my cheese situation is at hand. Kenyans on the ground and online are to a man and woman apoplectic at the mere mention of this character. The prospect of Jubilee 3.0 exciting anyone is laughable. Don't worry, 2022 will show a lot of people who think they own this country the harsh truth.
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Pundit , personally I place you high there top of top political matters, I see you struggling matters economic , matters law you score a point here and there. You also think these things have no political influence.
Ojwang the so called " scholar "became pro executive even bagging his wife a position in Uhurus Govt , We were cock sure in 2017 elections petition he was going to give judgement in Pro Uhurus way and this is the lawyer you quote. No wonder you think Ouko is apolitical.
I would advice you stick to matters political, your father did a good job there mentoring you.
And you claim you know what happens in corridors of Justice ? There you go..........
Ngayia was in AGs( state law office )for many years probably even before you were born. Come on Pundit a little background reaearch will give you this information.
Being so good in "history" what makes you make such mistakes ?
He is the know it all, I told him Koome and Ouko have cut deals with Uhuru men, he still instists they are the best in Judiciary..
Months ago I told him how Uhuru had captured JSC, he thinks he know Judiciary better than the rest.
I still opine Ruto should also be a player in the Judiciary machinations,
I think its evident Kenyans know High Court have Jurisprudence. Even this ruling will be refered by many comonwealth nations , however COA and SC are whole different ball games all together. SC has been turned into a political court.
The drafters of the Constituion 2010 envisioned the SC to be the appex court where scholars would write top notch judgements hence why majority were from the academic world having wrote many " papers" but were we dissapointed. If you read and compare the judgements between high court vs Supreme court you would think High court is the appex court.
Now going to Ruto vs Pundit , I dont think Ruto would ever listen to him leave alone put him closer. Pundit can take 30 minutes to explain a point People in Rutos position need a person who can do that in 2 Minutes.
When I saw him of indicating Kabogo is a serious candidate, I saw a "Robina" in him.
Pundit you're over excited and over confident after the court ruling. We still have a long way to go things will change severaly,But I can tell you Kiunjuri will not bring even 1/4 kikuyu votes to Ruto. Kiunjuri good days are way behind him even Laikipia governor he won't make it.
This is the defiency he has,he thinks he knows everything politically. Once he makes up his mind on something he thinks that's the gospel truth. Sometimes I just shake my head. This is the problem we have and have to negotiate with Ruto hard because if you're place people like pundit in some sensitive areas we are back to moi handouts.
yes ouko and koome plus ngatia were the best..in the shortlisted bunch and I predicted both will end in supreme court long before they got interview.Poor ngatia deserve it but without as much public sector experience he was doomed..I don't need to know internal intrigues to predict mwafrika...I do the same in politics.. because I can the mind of mwafrika easily
junior state attorney in 1980s... that I bet most lawyer started that way..he cut his teeth as commercial lawyer..in fact before petition of 2013 I didn't know him..
strawman argument.i know judges based on their court ruling on important cases.i am not a lawyer.i am a software engineer.All the laws I know I learnt in 90s reading my lawyer student neighbors as high school student...mostly prof ojwang..he seemed to be every where in UON undergraduate notes.The one I most remember was written the laws of tort or something like that by JB ojwang
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Kiunjuri and the likes of Ndindi are theKariuki Chotaras of prior years ,if Ruto decides to make them his lieutenants, its his burial
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Nobody is giving Ruto a gema candidate preferably Kikuyu who is better than Mwangi Kiunjuri because there is none.Ruto will not play risky moves by dumping kikuyus with nearly 5m votes or 8m in population for anybody else..won't happen...unless Uhuru continue to play spoiler like he did in Mululu.Then he will pick kindiki.
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Nobody is giving Ruto a gema candidate preferably Kikuyu who is better than Mwangi Kiunjuri because there is none.Ruto will not play risky moves by dumping kikuyus with nearly 5m votes or 8m in population for anybody else..won't happen...unless Uhuru continue to play spoiler like he did in Mululu.Then he will pick kindiki.
Pundit achana na pombe brother it appears you can't handle it. There is plenty of time for a suitable candidate to emerge. Don't you know one day in politics is along time. Pundit learn to differentiate between your thinking driven by alcoholic stupor and reality in mt kenya. Stick to RV politics. This is the last time we knocking this in your head,should Ruto pick Kiunjuri then you can as well kiss majority kura bye.
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So we should cease any debate until the candidate emerges. Well, Ruto has chosen Kiunjuri. Quit while you can this early. This thing was agreed on as early as 2016 by both Ruto and Uhuru - when Kiunjuri was prevailed to forgo Laikipia governorship. I am not sure if Uhuru is still on board...there is a strong possibility that fallout could be patched up :) :)
Former CS Mwangi Kiunjuri’s The Service Party (TSP) and the United Democratic Alliance (UDA) have signed a coalition agreement ahead of 2022 polls.
According to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in our possession, the agreement was signed on February 14 and is focused on the 2022 succession politics.
“The purpose of this MOU is to formalize a framework of cooperation and to facilitate collaboration between the Parties in support of the 2022 Agenda for capturing the presidency, building on their comparative advantages and ensuring their complementarity and mutual reinforcement,” the document reads in part.
The document recognises Mwangi Kiunjuri as the party leader for TSP while Deputy President William Ruto is recognised as the party leader for UDA.
The coalition has been engineered by ousted Jubilee deputy secretary-general Caleb Kipkemei Kositany as the secretary-general on the UDA side and former nominated MCA Bernadette Wangui Nganga as the vice-chairman on the TSP side.
The MoU will remain active for the next three years with eligibility to be extended for a further three years, unless the parties change opinion.
The MOU further stipulates the sharing of Cabinet posts at 50:50, tentatively.
“Details to the power-sharing agreement will follow immediately this coalition takes power,” the document reads in part.
The MoU comes at a time the political heat is rising in the country, with UDA lieutenants accusing President Uhuru Kenyatta of betraying his deputy William Ruto.
Pundit achana na pombe brother it appears you can't handle it. There is plenty of time for a suitable candidate to emerge. Don't you know one day in politics is along time. Pundit learn to differentiate between your thinking driven by alcoholic stupor and reality in mt kenya. Stick to RV politics. This is the last time we knocking this in your head,should Ruto pick Kiunjuri then you can as well kiss majority kura bye.
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Incredible :o but what guarantee do you have that Ruto will keep his bargain after Uhuru didn't keep his?
There has happened alot Kiunjuri would have been forefront promoting Ruto but he is a backbencher do you honestly think wakina Alice Wahome,Gachagua,Ndindis, will just seat back after doing the donkey work? Ruto would be very naive to tosha Kiunjuri someone that doesn't have traction anywhere and doesn't support him openly.
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RV , Njuri is very right and I believe you know it.
I was one of the people who toshad Kiunjuri for DP post in 2022 elections.
Kiunjuri once fired by Uhuru should have waged a political war with him , he chickened out and this has dented his chances of becoming Rutos DP.
Heck even the Moses Kurias party is doing much better than TSP in these by elections.
So we should cease any debate until the candidate emerges. Well, Ruto has chosen Kiunjuri. Quit while you can this early. This thing was agreed on as early as 2016 by both Ruto and Uhuru - when Kiunjuri was prevailed to forgo Laikipia governorship. I am not sure if Uhuru is still on board...there is a strong possibility that fallout could be patched up :) :)
Former CS Mwangi Kiunjuri’s The Service Party (TSP) and the United Democratic Alliance (UDA) have signed a coalition agreement ahead of 2022 polls.
According to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in our possession, the agreement was signed on February 14 and is focused on the 2022 succession politics.
“The purpose of this MOU is to formalize a framework of cooperation and to facilitate collaboration between the Parties in support of the 2022 Agenda for capturing the presidency, building on their comparative advantages and ensuring their complementarity and mutual reinforcement,” the document reads in part.
The document recognises Mwangi Kiunjuri as the party leader for TSP while Deputy President William Ruto is recognised as the party leader for UDA.
The coalition has been engineered by ousted Jubilee deputy secretary-general Caleb Kipkemei Kositany as the secretary-general on the UDA side and former nominated MCA Bernadette Wangui Nganga as the vice-chairman on the TSP side.
The MoU will remain active for the next three years with eligibility to be extended for a further three years, unless the parties change opinion.
The MOU further stipulates the sharing of Cabinet posts at 50:50, tentatively.
“Details to the power-sharing agreement will follow immediately this coalition takes power,” the document reads in part.
The MoU comes at a time the political heat is rising in the country, with UDA lieutenants accusing President Uhuru Kenyatta of betraying his deputy William Ruto.
Pundit achana na pombe brother it appears you can't handle it. There is plenty of time for a suitable candidate to emerge. Don't you know one day in politics is along time. Pundit learn to differentiate between your thinking driven by alcoholic stupor and reality in mt kenya. Stick to RV politics. This is the last time we knocking this in your head,should Ruto pick Kiunjuri then you can as well kiss majority kura bye.
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RV , Njuri is very right and I believe you know it.
I was one of the people who toshad Kiunjuri for DP post in 2022 elections.
Kiunjuri once fired by Uhuru should have waged a political war with him , he chickened out and this has dented his chances of becoming Rutos DP.
Heck even the Moses Kurias party is doing much better than TSP in these by elections.
So we should cease any debate until the candidate emerges. Well, Ruto has chosen Kiunjuri. Quit while you can this early. This thing was agreed on as early as 2016 by both Ruto and Uhuru - when Kiunjuri was prevailed to forgo Laikipia governorship. I am not sure if Uhuru is still on board...there is a strong possibility that fallout could be patched up :) :)
Former CS Mwangi Kiunjuri’s The Service Party (TSP) and the United Democratic Alliance (UDA) have signed a coalition agreement ahead of 2022 polls.
According to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) in our possession, the agreement was signed on February 14 and is focused on the 2022 succession politics.
“The purpose of this MOU is to formalize a framework of cooperation and to facilitate collaboration between the Parties in support of the 2022 Agenda for capturing the presidency, building on their comparative advantages and ensuring their complementarity and mutual reinforcement,” the document reads in part.
The document recognises Mwangi Kiunjuri as the party leader for TSP while Deputy President William Ruto is recognised as the party leader for UDA.
The coalition has been engineered by ousted Jubilee deputy secretary-general Caleb Kipkemei Kositany as the secretary-general on the UDA side and former nominated MCA Bernadette Wangui Nganga as the vice-chairman on the TSP side.
The MoU will remain active for the next three years with eligibility to be extended for a further three years, unless the parties change opinion.
The MOU further stipulates the sharing of Cabinet posts at 50:50, tentatively.
“Details to the power-sharing agreement will follow immediately this coalition takes power,” the document reads in part.
The MoU comes at a time the political heat is rising in the country, with UDA lieutenants accusing President Uhuru Kenyatta of betraying his deputy William Ruto.
Pundit achana na pombe brother it appears you can't handle it. There is plenty of time for a suitable candidate to emerge. Don't you know one day in politics is along time. Pundit learn to differentiate between your thinking driven by alcoholic stupor and reality in mt kenya. Stick to RV politics. This is the last time we knocking this in your head,should Ruto pick Kiunjuri then you can as well kiss majority kura bye.
You nailed it Noway. Precisely my beef with Kiunjuri is he doesn't campaign for Ruto. He is a fence sitter and we can't allow the people who fought and paid the price to be overlooked for someone just waiting to pita katikati. Can pundit tell us now what's strategy is Kiunjuri using? Its better even for Moses Kuria to go for it he would bring more votes than Kiunjuri.
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We are all in agreement that Kiunjuri could have done and should do more. He is very effective background player but now it's time to go frontal against uhuru.
How many times I have urged Kiunjuri to step up the plate. He seems to fear Uhuru or they maybe have a deal? It doesn't make sense that he prefers to work on the background - when lame-duck needed someone to hit him hard - as Wahome Alice has done.
He really need to step up now. Unless again they know something with Uhuru and Ruto - that we don't.
You nailed it Noway. Precisely my beef with Kiunjuri is he doesn't campaign for Ruto. He is a fence sitter and we can't allow the people who fought and paid the price to be overlooked for someone just waiting to pita katikati. Can pundit tell us now what's strategy is Kiunjuri using? Its better even for Moses Kuria to go for it he would bring more votes than Kiunjuri.
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I believe Kiunjuri is behind those players - Gachangua is basically his bag carrier- only Moses Kuria has refused to play ball - otherwise I believe the rest - maybe bar Alice Wahome - are working with Mwangi Kiunjuri.
The big mystery remain why is MK - hesitant to attack Uhuru - the same hesitancy Ruto has - even when attacked directly by Uhuru. It's either political maturity kind of I am above that or fear of taking on the head of state or they have a secret deal.
Incredible :o but what guarantee do you have that Ruto will keep his bargain after Uhuru didn't keep his?
There has happened alot Kiunjuri would have been forefront promoting Ruto but he is a backbencher do you honestly think wakina Alice Wahome,Gachagua,Ndindis, will just seat back after doing the donkey work? Ruto would be very naive to tosha Kiunjuri someone that doesn't have traction anywhere and doesn't support him openly.
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I am not a pundit, writer, journalist and I am too busy to analyze, counter analyze, bar gossip about Kenyan politics but I am keen on one thing, the kikuyu zeitgeist. Though I do not live in Kenya full time, I have my ear on the ground. I started talking about Peter Kenneth way before any of my friends from other tribes knew who he was, everyone would look at me in bewilderment whenever I mentioned his name. Peter Kenneth would now be a very serious candidate if he did not allow hubris and ego to overcome rational thinking and popular advice. I can tell you today, without fear of contraction that my radar has not picked up on Kiunjuri, no one is even talking about him. He will not get out Kikuyus, maybe boda bodas and manabas. The dilemma here is, Ruto has a more fervent support in Meruland than Kikuyus in general, if he goes with a Merian, Kikuyus will be even more disinterested. I think this next election will be determined by the kikuyu turnout, that’s why people like Kiunjuri cannot take Uhuru head on, it’s hard to measure how much support Uhuru has among Kikuyus, you do not want to piss or turn this people off. It’s too early in the electioneering process but things are looking good for a Kati Kati candidate.
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Pundit's obsession with MK is baffling. We buttressed it here before MK was fired by Uhuru after barking for a few days. MK had GNU which had ZERO MPs - one self-made maverick governor Nderitu Gachagua - few MCAs. MK himself flopped big as Laikipia governor. You see now noone knows his tissue party - everytime a BBI ruling or Sudi insults Mama Ngina - pro-Uhuru, anti-Ruto protests actually start in Nanyuki. His own governor, senator, women rep, MPs, and I bet MCAs are Kieleweke. Laikipia and Nyeri are the most pro-Uhuru Mt kenya counties - where MK is supposedly king 8)
About legal prowess - haha - this BBI ruling is the only thing Pundit has ever gotten right. And we know it is so politically stained and likely to be quashed by CoA and SCORK.
Pundit is good in politics but suffers from hubris. The illogical belief that he is so clever.
Njuri views are heavily colored by his Meru nationalism.
Noway suffers from a strange cowardice. Bloke can't take a stand on anything. For instance - Noway had no stand on the BBI cases until after the ruling. He has no stand on appeal. He has no stand on the Juja or Bonchari by-elections. Cowardice is not punditry. What is the point of your smarts if you cannot take pressure of being wrong even anonymously on the blogosphere?
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I am not a pundit, writer, journalist and I am too busy to analyze, counter analyze, bar gossip about Kenyan politics but I am keen on one thing, the kikuyu zeitgeist. Though I do not live in Kenya full time, I have my ear on the ground. I started talking about Peter Kenneth way before any of my friends from other tribes knew who he was, everyone would look at me in bewilderment whenever I mentioned his name. Peter Kenneth would now be a very serious candidate if he did not allow hubris and ego to overcome rational thinking and popular advice. I can tell you today, without fear of contraction that my radar has not picked up on Kiunjuri, no one is even talking about him. He will not get out Kikuyus, maybe boda bodas and manabas. The dilemma here is, Ruto has a more fervent support in Meruland than Kikuyus in general, if he goes with a Merian, Kikuyus will be even more disinterested. I think this next election will be determined by the kikuyu turnout, that’s why people like Kiunjuri cannot take Uhuru head on, it’s hard to measure how much support Uhuru has among Kikuyus, you do not want to piss or turn this people off. It’s too early in the electioneering process but things are looking good for a Kati Kati candidate.
Kiunjuri shot himself in the foot as Uhuru succession front-runner by jumping headfast into Ruto camp. That would only have worked if he had the balls and muscle to spill blood. Obviously it was very stupid. He should have remained neutral or firmly with Uhuru like PK. It is noteworthy noone in Tangatanga nor Kieleweke dares attack PK - despite leading kikuyu elders to Bondo - he is more acceptable as a Mt Kenya candidate than MK - both in Kikuyu, Meru-Embu and in even non-Gema.
PK has a better chance than MK to succeed Uhuru as Gema kingpin.
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Mk still the best in bad lot.Kiunjuri made it happened.i .you can become the best of the best or the best of the worse.Even school with mean grade of E has some genius kid there who scored c+ and is highly regarded.Ruto and Kiunjuri cleared their path in 2017..smart folk think and plan ahead..an idiot like Raila has zero foresight
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I met PK during Worldcup in S7 airlines heading to Samara, I will not dwell in details, We had a dicussion the next several days , he asked my opinion about Kenyan politics, I told him you have a good chance if you associate with Ruto,, I still opine its not to late if identifies with Ruto. These other shenanigans about Kikuyu elders etc wont take him anywhere.
As politician its good to read whats happening on ground and take that route however it seems he is listening to the Murathes, same people he defeated in 2002.He went against the grain then and he was the only MP in Thika district to make it on NARC. 2022 you cant go against the grain same like 2007 when he ran on PNU he should just go with the grain and reach out to Rutos team.
I am not a pundit, writer, journalist and I am too busy to analyze, counter analyze, bar gossip about Kenyan politics but I am keen on one thing, the kikuyu zeitgeist. Though I do not live in Kenya full time, I have my ear on the ground. I started talking about Peter Kenneth way before any of my friends from other tribes knew who he was, everyone would look at me in bewilderment whenever I mentioned his name. Peter Kenneth would now be a very serious candidate if he did not allow hubris and ego to overcome rational thinking and popular advice. I can tell you today, without fear of contraction that my radar has not picked up on Kiunjuri, no one is even talking about him. He will not get out Kikuyus, maybe boda bodas and manabas. The dilemma here is, Ruto has a more fervent support in Meruland than Kikuyus in general, if he goes with a Merian, Kikuyus will be even more disinterested. I think this next election will be determined by the kikuyu turnout, that’s why people like Kiunjuri cannot take Uhuru head on, it’s hard to measure how much support Uhuru has among Kikuyus, you do not want to piss or turn this people off. It’s too early in the electioneering process but things are looking good for a Kati Kati candidate.
Kiunjuri shot himself in the foot as Uhuru succession front-runner by jumping headfast into Ruto camp. That would only have worked if he had the balls and muscle to spill blood. Obviously it was very stupid. He should have remained neutral or firmly with Uhuru like PK. It is noteworthy noone in Tangatanga nor Kieleweke dares attack PK - despite leading kikuyu elders to Bondo - he is more acceptable as a Mt Kenya candidate than PK - both in Kikuyu, Meru-Embu and in even non-Gema.
PK has a better chance than MK to succeed Uhuru as Gema kingpin.
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Pundit's obsession with MK is baffling. We buttressed it here before MK was fired by Uhuru after barking for a few days. MK had GNU which had ZERO MPs - one self-made maverick governor Nderitu Gachagua - few MCAs. MK himself flopped big as Laikipia governor. You see now noone knows his tissue party - everytime a BBI ruling or Sudi insults Mama Ngina - pro-Uhuru, anti-Ruto protests actually start in Nanyuki. His own governor, senator, women rep, MPs, and I bet MCAs are Kieleweke. Laikipia and Nyeri are the most pro-Uhuru Mt kenya counties - where MK is supposedly king 8)
About legal prowess - haha - this BBI ruling is the only thing Pundit has ever gotten right. And we know it is so politically stained and likely to be quashed by CoA and SCORK.
Pundit is good in politics but suffers from hubris. The illogical belief that he is so clever.
Njuri views are heavily colored by his Meru nationalism.
Noway suffers from a strange cowardice. Bloke can't take a stand on anything. For instance - Noway had no stand on the BBI cases until after the ruling. He has no stand on appeal. He has no stand on the Juja or Bonchari by-elections. Cowardice is not punditry. What is the point of your smarts if you cannot take pressure of being wrong even anonymously on the blogosphere?
Noway the intellectual coward has no rebuttal... 8)
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Noway can you analyze and PREDICT
1) Juja, Bonchari, Rurii
2) BBI appeal - the stay and the substantive case
Man up and say something without parroting Pundit's and Njuri's lines. The sky won't cave if you are wrong I promise.
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Who is the idiot now
Wooo Ruto wont work with Raila , woo Uhuru is committed to see Ruto become president and now woo Ruto will use Kindiki to break GEMA unity …
The last idiot Ruto worked with was Raila - and he will not repeat such a mistake
2016
If pk had brains he would have gone for muranga governor and would now be like mutua.going for second time..then 2022 he go to dpork..or even pork.Now the fool less than yr election is still deciding on 3 counties.Ruto doesn't work with fools like Kenneth or madvd.Kiunjuri is not polished but he is no fool.politics at highest level requires brains and lots of money.Right now Ruto only fear is a frustrated Raila pulling 2002 where luos back kikuyu upstart like Martha just to spite on Ruto...that has happened before so Rutoh is probably thinking about..otherwise uhuru is committed to see through rutoh pork
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Ruto is taking Raila to Adis then inherit ODM. Kwani ni ngumu kuelewa
Who is the idiot now
Wooo Ruto wont work with Raila , woo Uhuru is committed to see Ruto become president and now woo Ruto will use Kindiki to break GEMA unity …
The last idiot Ruto worked with was Raila - and he will not repeat such a mistake
2016
If pk had brains he would have gone for muranga governor and would now be like mutua.going for second time..then 2022 he go to dpork..or even pork.Now the fool less than yr election is still deciding on 3 counties.Ruto doesn't work with fools like Kenneth or madvd.Kiunjuri is not polished but he is no fool.politics at highest level requires brains and lots of money.Right now Ruto only fear is a frustrated Raila pulling 2002 where luos back kikuyu upstart like Martha just to spite on Ruto...that has happened before so Rutoh is probably thinking about..otherwise uhuru is committed to see through rutoh pork
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Pundit is UDA going to (re-)join ODM? Or well they can rename it New KANU 😃