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Ukambani unsettled.
« on: April 21, 2022, 12:10:51 PM »
Kivutha is crying.
Mutua is crying.
Kalonzo is crying.

Only Ngilu seem happy in Azimio.

This remain for me the region to watch in 2022 -

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2022, 11:36:34 AM »

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2022, 11:42:50 AM »
Weda is those rare Luos who still speak their mind - the rest are zoombified. It's almost common sense that Kaloi should be DPORK - anything else is disaster.

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2022, 11:47:17 AM »

Reason they see him as an outcast. In ODM you have to be a wishfull Thinker. You can see that nature reflected here.

Weda is those rare Luos who still speak their mind - the rest are zoombified. It's almost common sense that Kaloi should be DPORK - anything else is disaster.

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2022, 11:47:48 AM »
Pundit crying louder than bereaved. Uuuuuuwwwwwiiiiiii!
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2022, 11:51:38 AM »
I am helping NASA lose respectfully. I dont see them winning - but Kalonzo gives them Raila a honorable exit. If they pick Martha or PK - Mt kenya will ignore them still - for if they have ignored Uhuru the president for 5yrs - what would DPORK do to them -for their hate and fear of Raila is almost all consuming.

You pick non-Kalonzo - except maybe Munya - you have Raila losing by 2-3 million plus votes - it will be 60-40 - with Ruto scoring 60 percent.

Pundit crying louder than bereaved. Uuuuuuwwwwwiiiiiii!

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2022, 12:59:25 PM »
I am helping NASA lose respectfully. I dont see them winning - but Kalonzo gives them Raila a honorable exit. If they pick Martha or PK - Mt kenya will ignore them still - for if they have ignored Uhuru the president for 5yrs - what would DPORK do to them -for their hate and fear of Raila is almost all consuming.

You pick non-Kalonzo - except maybe Munya - you have Raila losing by 2-3 million plus votes - it will be 60-40 - with Ruto scoring 60 percent.

Pundit crying louder than bereaved. Uuuuuuwwwwwiiiiiii!
Even picking Munya now is useless it has been passed by times,Merus unfortunately can't be just flipped they are loyal people nad have settled in Ruto,too late for Munya the die has been cast. I agree only Kalonzo can minimize the damage of loss from around 2M to 1M.

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2022, 01:18:19 PM »
I guess you have blinkers firmly on.

Ukambani is intra-Azimio affair. These are all Kambas fighting amongst themselves - mainly Kalonzo-Wiper vs Mutua & Kibwana. There is no ODM or Jubilee there like Nairobi.

Tell us - how come despite all the "noise" noone is crossing over to UDA?  8) I mean in Luhya or Gema people have been shuffling all over - across - Ngirici, Kiraitu, Wanjigi, etc. If you hear Kibwana say "vote me for senator but choose PORK for yourself" - akin to Kiraitu - then you should be very happy. But nope - everyone makes noise strictly in Azimio. Kibwana is saying: Kalonzo is pushing us to dominate Ukambani... please vote me senate but for PORK vote Raila no matter what." 

Kalonzo games are basically the same - ohh there is Azimio 4th leg contra to 3-leg agreement - but the 4th leg is Kibwana & Mutua  8) - Kamba affair. Kalonzo has repeatedly said he does not have to be DPORK. What is really noteworthy in Azimio-Kamba is how there is no UDA or KK to speak of: no primaries, no defections, no complaints - even a small fish like Waita ran to CCM or something - anything but UDA. KK in Kamba is dead as dodo.
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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2022, 01:29:17 PM »

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2022, 01:49:00 PM »
Fanya research tena. UDA held nomination in Ukambani. Opinion polls that I have seen - Ruto is leading in Ukambani - beating Kalonzo and Raila. That was before they joined hands.

Your text-book kind of politics dont work.

Ruto has such a serious play in Ukambani - if Kalonzo is not Raila DPORK - Ruto will get even 70-80 percent - and Raila 20-30 percent.

I guess you have blinkers firmly on.

Ukambani is intra-Azimio affair. These are all Kambas fighting amongst themselves - mainly Kalonzo-Wiper vs Mutua & Kibwana. There is no ODM or Jubilee there like Nairobi.

Tell us - how come despite all the "noise" noone is crossing over to UDA?  8) I mean in Luhya or Gema people have been shuffling all over - across - Ngirici, Kiraitu, Wanjigi, etc. If you hear Kibwana say "vote me for senator but choose PORK for yourself" - akin to Kiraitu - then you should be very happy. But nope - everyone makes noise strictly in Azimio. Kibwana is saying: Kalonzo is pushing us to dominate Ukambani... please vote me senate but for PORK vote Raila no matter what." 

Kalonzo games are basically the same - ohh there is Azimio 4th leg contra to 3-leg agreement - but the 4th leg is Kibwana & Mutua  8) - Kamba affair. Kalonzo has repeatedly said he does not have to be DPORK. What is really noteworthy in Azimio-Kamba is how there is no UDA or KK to speak of: no primaries, no defections, no complaints - even a small fish like Waita ran to CCM or something - anything but UDA. KK in Kamba is dead as dodo.


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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2022, 02:10:50 PM »
I don't trust Mizani zero track record. Last polls were before Azimio-OKA - when Kalonzo-Mdvd-Giddy were running around whining.

Let have credible poll - Ipsos, Infotrak, Tifa - of Raila vs Ruto. Otherwise seem only 3 MPs are UDA - Adelina Mwau, Nimrod Mbai, Victor Munyaka. I mean everywhere else we see MPs fairly split - Luhya, Gema, etc - in line with ground. What so special about Ukambani so Ruto can get 70-80 yet no MP crosses over?

Fanya research tena. UDA held nomination in Ukambani. Opinion polls that I have seen - Ruto is leading in Ukambani - beating Kalonzo and Raila. That was before they joined hands.

Your text-book kind of politics dont work.

Ruto has such a serious play in Ukambani - if Kalonzo is not Raila DPORK - Ruto will get even 70-80 percent - and Raila 20-30 percent.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2022, 02:16:31 PM »
UDA/Ruto is second preferred choice after Kalonzo/Wiper in Ukambani.
Expectation is that Kalonzo will be made DPORK
Then Kambas can vote for Kalonzo via Raila.
Raila without Kalonzo is going nowhere in Ukamani...dont be cheated by retiring and unpopular governors.
Polls - all of them - show Ruto has serious play in Ukambani - maybe InfoTrack doesnt.
They also show Ukambani has very high undecided voters...because they are waiting for Kalonzo fate.

So just remember if Kalonzo is not on the ballot - Ruto takes most of the votes.

Make that mistake - and see a million votes go to Ruto.


I don't trust Mizani zero track record. Last polls were before Azimio-OKA - when Kalonzo-Mdvd-Giddy were running around claiming.

Let have credible poll - Ipsos, Infotrak, Tifa - of Raila vs Ruto. Otherwise seem only 3 MPs are UDA - Adelina Mwau, Nimrod Mbai, Victor Munyaka. I mean everywhere else we see MPs fairly split - Luhya, Gema, etc - in line with ground. What so special about Ukambani so Ruto can get 70-80 yet no MP crosses over?

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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2022, 05:31:33 PM »
Ambrose Weda is speaking like thousands of Luo comments on Facebook. They can clearly see Uhuru is managing Raila to oblivion. Ruto's bodaboda groups, Saccos, women groups, slay queen groups, youth groups, comrade power, church groups, and other links in Ukambani are deep. He made investments from 2012 to 2022, and it is paying off whether folks like it or not. Even with no Kales and significant Kikuyus in Ukambani, DP has assured 20-30%. If Kalonzo fails to get a DP slot, that number will crank 50% or more! For more details, find Kamba groups on Facebook and see how things roll!
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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
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Re: Ukambani unsettled.
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2022, 06:46:33 PM »
Yes to add to that - Raila has treated Kambas shabbly - while Ruto is busy courting them. Ruto has also learnt not to engage directly with Kalonzo....the man knows how to cry.   Even they call Ruto a thief...Ruto should ignore them....because Kamba nations have no problem with Ruto.

Ukambani leaders have issues with Ruto because they know Ruto has popular ground and their chief opponents in Ukambani are UDA.

Muthama is also good underground player - and has very good network.

Machakos and Makueni is all good.

Kitui - Ruto will struggle.

Ambrose Weda is speaking like thousands of Luo comments on Facebook. They can clearly see Uhuru is managing Raila to oblivion. Ruto's bodaboda groups, Saccos, women groups, slay queen groups, youth groups, comrade power, church groups, and other links in Ukambani are deep. He made investments from 2012 to 2022, and it is paying off whether folks like it or not. Even with no Kales and significant Kikuyus in Ukambani, DP has assured 20-30%. If Kalonzo fails to get a DP slot, that number will crank 50% or more! For more details, find Kamba groups on Facebook and see how things roll!