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Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« on: February 20, 2022, 06:47:58 AM »
Kabando-safina
Uhuru-Jubilee
Kunjuri-TSP,
Kuria-CCK,
Karua-Narck Kenya,
Kabogo-Tujibebewakenya party.
Ngirici-Jubilee
Meru-Mbus

Most of these Kikuyu senior politicians have seen the light and they very well know that Ruto wwants to use UDA (KANU MOI STYLE) nominations to decimate kikuyu politicians.The plan now is for the veterans to unite and destroy this python before it swallows them.I don't see UDA winning more than 20 seats in central.

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2022, 06:54:05 AM »
More like giving UDA a chance to sweep through Mt Kenya
The only way they can fight UDA is first unite as one party - one counter-force
But if every of those little parties will be fielding candidates without any nomination
Then UDA stick to nomination - select the most popular candidate -
Even if UDA has 50 percent support - they win.

Secondly they can speak all day about everything - but the moment they say Raila or Azimio - they lose the plot and the people.

That is their dilema. It will be tougher for UDA if Ruto was to do coalition with those small parties - because they will hide under Hustler Revolution.

That I suspect is why Ruto is not keen to allow the Kurias and Kiunjuris  to piggyback on his support base for their selfish interest. This what is killing Raila in Azimio - because small parties are eating up ODM - while shouting Azimio at the top  - even in Luo Nyanza - same way Kibaki ended up with 40Mps in 2007.

Kabando-safina
Uhuru-Jubilee
Kunjuri-TSP,
Kuria-CCK,
Karua-Narck Kenya,
Kabogo-Tujibebewakenya party.
Ngirici-Jubilee
Meru-Mbus

Most of these Kikuyu senior politicians have seen the light and they very well know that Ruto wwants to use UDA (KANU MOI STYLE) nominations to decimate kikuyu politicians.The plan now is for the veterans to unite and destroy this python before it swallows them.I don't see UDA winning more than 20 seats in central.


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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2022, 07:08:09 AM »
Pundit...Who told you GEMA can't vote Raila?

There can never be fair nominations in UDA...All these small Gema parties will then coalesce towards Azimio la utapeli,

Who thought Luo would have voted Kikuyu in 2002?Who thought Kalenjins would have voted Kikuyu in 2013?

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2022, 07:22:59 AM »
I predict max of 35 percent support for Raila with vicious campaign.
That is a lot of work - that has cost Uhuru lost of billions and time.
You see Jakom started from 2 percent - but in reality from big negative.
So they have tried...right now opinion polls have him on average around 15-20 percent - in a few areas he's nearing 30% like in Meru.
He needs to almost double his effort to gain to 35 percent.
That would be almost 4 out 10 GEMA people voting Jakom.
If Jakom does that - and get Kalonzo - he will lose with max 47 versus Ruto 53 percent.

The problem Jakom faces is that Ruto is very competitive almost everywhere.
You put up fire here - he starts another there.

UDA will have nomination fallout - as vicious as the last one - Jubilee 2017 - as those who lost will likely merge to claim they have been rigged.

That is Ruto biggest problem.
Those people having spend 10 million plus and then lose in UDA nomination - will be very angry!
If Kuria was smart - he would have waited and then harvested from there.

Anyway I see Ruto is keen to settle the hottest battles in UDA nomination with negotiation - like Kakamega - Nairobi remain unresolved - but generally Ruto has to be naive to imagine everyone will be satisfied.

Pundit...Who told you GEMA can't vote Raila?

There can never be fair nominations in UDA...All these small Gema parties will then coalesce towards Azimio la utapeli,

Who thought Luo would have voted Kikuyu in 2002?Who thought Kalenjins would have voted Kikuyu in 2013?

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2022, 07:50:41 AM »
Certainly there will be fallout from UDA in mlima they is disquiet that already party positions have been shared,in tharaka nithi for example Prof Njoka will not want to square with current governor as already there is feeling that Muthomi has that position so possibly Prof Njoka might shift to Azimio same case in Meru county Kawira might run on Azimio,we are yet to see anyway

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 07:52:13 AM »
All those are broke spent politicians trying to revive their kiosks for little change. DP is a force that has taken seasoned politicians like Uhuru, Martha, and the rest in circles a few months to elections. Like Moi said a long time ago, " Power is in the hands of wananchi" As such, Ruto figured that out long ten years ago and started investing in Wanachi at churches, Mosques, roadside, schools, kiosks, online, Harambees, and anywhere in between. He shook hands with influential local folks, opinion shapers, fund Boda Boda guys, mama mbogas, and regular joes in cities and the countryside. This massive investment in people is paying off in real-time. Most folks who attend his rallies have a favorable opinion about him because they have experienced or heard about the DP. In such an environment where people are excited about the popular candidate, competitors and haters struggle to find a footing, like the way Uhurus, Marthas, Kurias, Railas, Gideons, Kalonzos, and other mediocre politicians are confused in the political marketplace. It pays handsomely to shake hands and form friendships at places of worship, schools, local organizations, markets, and points where regular folk throng. Dummy Uhuru thought killing Jubilee alone would kneecap DP completely. Like Moi again, with that long neck, DP knew that to get to the height of Jubilee party popularity, he had to form his party early and campaign aggressively to reach or exceed Jubilee level.  Five months before the election, Jubilee is dead, and UDA has exceeded expectations. DP is now officially the greatest politician in Kenyan history. Even Raila, the veteran and geriatric politician nick-named "enigma," is 10 points behind DP, yet he has the full support of the sitting president, ruling political party, and the system. Like him or hate, the DP is the mogul of Kenya's politics. What can he do with his sober brainy self if he can propel a complete drunkard like Uhuru to the presidency?
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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2022, 08:10:42 AM »
That would be jumping from the frying pan of UDA direct to the fire. Selling Azimio is one of surest way to political suicide in Mt kenya. It more rational to jump to independent and dont say anything against UDA or Ruto - otherwise you'll be seen a traitor or a mole all along
Certainly there will be fallout from UDA in mlima they is disquiet that already party positions have been shared,in tharaka nithi for example Prof Njoka will not want to square with current governor as already there is feeling that Muthomi has that position so possibly Prof Njoka might shift to Azimio same case in Meru county Kawira might run on Azimio,we are yet to see anyway

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2022, 08:16:02 AM »
That would be jumping from the frying pan of UDA direct to the fire. Selling Azimio is one of surest way to political suicide in Mt kenya. It more rational to jump to independent and dont say anything against UDA or Ruto - otherwise you'll be seen a traitor or a mole all along
Certainly there will be fallout from UDA in mlima they is disquiet that already party positions have been shared,in tharaka nithi for example Prof Njoka will not want to square with current governor as already there is feeling that Muthomi has that position so possibly Prof Njoka might shift to Azimio same case in Meru county Kawira might run on Azimio,we are yet to see anyway
Not really like I said we have to wait till April then and party primaries to be able to call it properly all Rutos hard work could go up in Smoke if primaries are seen to be rigged,Ruto stands to loose more than Baba in this regard that's why he has to play it very safe any fallout will gain azimio which when fueled by gatheca can cause problems here and there.

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2022, 08:18:47 AM »
Precisely - most poor and lazy politicians - would prefer they settle things on the boardrooms and bars - and then go for few rallies for the decision to be rubber stamp. That is biggest mistake that saw Kibaki despite being elected with 63 percent in 2002 and growing economy by 7 percent loses 2007. Ruto understood from Moi - that politics is life - it 24 hours job - you cannot slacken in Nairobi - and roam bars - then few months land - thinking people are waiting for you.

You need to carry the people along, you need to be with them, they need to feel part of the decision making (however fake), you need to attend harambees, funerals, key events, you need to stay grounded.

Otherwise most of these guys are now the famous texas cowboys with hats and no cattle.
All those are broke spent politicians trying to revive their kiosks for little change. DP is a force that has taken seasoned politicians like Uhuru, Martha, and the rest in circles a few months to elections. Like Moi said a long time ago, " Power is in the hands of wananchi" As such, Ruto figured that out long ten years ago and started investing in Wanachi at churches, Mosques, roadside, schools, kiosks, online, Harambees, and anywhere in between. He shook hands with influential local folks, opinion shapers, fund Boda Boda guys, mama mbogas, and regular joes in cities and the countryside. This massive investment in people is paying off in real-time. Most folks who attend his rallies have a favorable opinion about him because they have experienced or heard about the DP. In such an environment where people are excited about the popular candidate, competitors and haters struggle to find a footing, like the way Uhurus, Marthas, Kurias, Railas, Gideons, Kalonzos, and other mediocre politicians are confused in the political marketplace. It pays handsomely to shake hands and form friendships at places of worship, schools, local organizations, markets, and points where regular folk throng. Dummy Uhuru thought killing Jubilee alone would kneecap DP completely. Like Moi again, with that long neck, DP knew that to get to the height of Jubilee party popularity, he had to form his party early and campaign aggressively to reach or exceed Jubilee level.  Five months before the election, Jubilee is dead, and UDA has exceeded expectations. DP is now officially the greatest politician in Kenyan history. Even Raila, the veteran and geriatric politician nick-named "enigma," is 10 points behind DP, yet he has the full support of the sitting president, ruling political party, and the system. Like him or hate, the DP is the mogul of Kenya's politics. What can he do with his sober brainy self if he can propel a complete drunkard like Uhuru to the presidency?

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2022, 08:20:50 AM »
Yes the fallout will hurt Ruto - that prize he will pay to gain many MPs. Azimio will breeze through - but will be fielding 10 candidates - handing UDA a walk over.

Not really like I said we have to wait till April then and party primaries to be able to call it properly all Rutos hard work could go up in Smoke if primaries are seen to be rigged,Ruto stands to loose more than Baba in this regard that's why he has to play it very safe any fallout will gain azimio which when fueled by gatheca can cause problems here and there.

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2022, 08:27:15 AM »
Yes the fallout will hurt Ruto - that prize he will pay to gain many MPs. Azimio will breeze through - but will be fielding 10 candidates - handing UDA a walk over.

Not really like I said we have to wait till April then and party primaries to be able to call it properly all Rutos hard work could go up in Smoke if primaries are seen to be rigged,Ruto stands to loose more than Baba in this regard that's why he has to play it very safe any fallout will gain azimio which when fueled by gatheca can cause problems here and there.
Azimio most likely is going inside jubilee don't be shocked if its Jubilee vs UDA that's gathecas main plan. Ruto just needs to ensure there is no favouritism at all guys like Farouk can ruin the going but at least at the moment all is going well.

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Re: Uhuru-Kiunjuri-Kiraitu-Kuria-Karua-Kabogo Reunion.
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2022, 08:47:05 AM »
I don't think DP will look away while party officials do monkey business in the nomination. He is a fair guy that hates bypassing people's will. UDA people will choose their leaders without anyone putting thumbs on the scale. The problem is that folks close to DP will win because the UDA electorate assumes DP has endorsed them. UDA folks in the periphery to obscurity may lose over this technicality. Gachaguas, Wahomes, Irungus, Kimanis, and the rest folks at the front of UDA will win nominations, hands down.
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