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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 14, 2020, 10:47:11 AM
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If Raila and the company save her; they would have destroyed Wanjohi's little push for fight anti-corruption.
https://citizentv.co.ke/news/waiguru-impeachment-kangata-denies-pushing-for-11-member-team-335454/
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/besieged-waiguru-lobbies-raila-to-help-save-her-job-in-senate-655366
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Raila denies the meeting. But we shall see how ODM senators will behave.
Uhuru's corruption fight is going to be under a serious test. If he cannot apply the same justice on Waitutu on Waiguru then he has lost the propaganda war to claim Ruto or his wing are corrupt.
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Basically this is where wanjohi is using rao like tissue paper. He will remain silent so baba can save her then at end of day say it wasn't him.
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Raila denies the meeting. But we shall see how ODM senators will behave.
Uhuru's corruption fight is going to be under a serious test. If he cannot apply the same justice on Waitutu on Waiguru then he has lost the propaganda war to claim Ruto or his wing are corrupt.
Its a catch 22 situation for Uhuru and Raila - They are hell bound to make sure the Constitution changes go through - They need Governors support in this and 99.99999 % of Governors are corrupt with the ones aligned to Ruto facing charges and the ones aligned to Raila and Ruto being protected by the Proxy CID office and DPP . If Senate saves Waiguru all Governors will align with pro BBI / Handshake if Senate votes for impeachment Governors will change tact and might decide to scuttle the constitution changes .
You know the outcome already
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Yes nowayaha.its. Bbi versus graft fight.
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This is a simple for senate. Here facts and decide. Pundit you are all over in central over analyzing every little thing.. Waiguru is no one in central. Kirinyaga people are not respected. They are seen as unstable unintelligent people. Ndia are more stable than these ones. Anyway waiguru will be judged by senate without whipping of senate by party leaders
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Just say kirinyaga are not legitimate kikuyu.
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Just say kirinyaga are not legitimate kikuyu.
i do not even think they claim to be. they are okay with their own little battles, their political dysfunction is very deep. Even back in the days good schools like Kerugoya boys would suffer due to the local turf wars. Waiguru is a typical kirinyaga person, an insolent bully when in power
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Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put on a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. That will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
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Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put in a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. They will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
she got go. She too toxic for Kirinyaga. Time for her to go back to Nairobi and live there .. she one of the most toxic people I have ever seen in Public service since Kimunya days
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Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put in a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. They will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
she got go. She too toxic for Kirinyaga. Time for her to go back to Nairobi and live there .. she one of the most toxic people I have ever seen in Public service since Kimunya days
precisely..it arrogance..poor insecure meet money.people need to study moi humility.Dont allow money to change you
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Just say kirinyaga are not legitimate kikuyu.
They are more embu than kikuyu that's why you see kenyanplato has a problem with them. Merus are "backwards" Kirinyaga are "unstable and unintelligent" to him as long as you not pure kikuyu there is a problem. But Kirinyaga want to break away from kikuyu they had started to lobby i dont know how it went.
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Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put on a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. That will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
Uhuru is silent because he wants this to be a Raira Problem. Now if this js the relationship between these 2 baba will be shafted seriously before xmas
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Baghdad bob you need to adjust your kalenjin lens. How do you study a thief and a murderer? Moi is no role model in anything.....back to Waiguru, queen birch need to go. It's time to weed out these thieves. Uhuru has finally found his footing. Endelea hivyo baba wa taifa. Malisa nyagau
Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put in a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. They will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
she got go. She too toxic for Kirinyaga. Time for her to go back to Nairobi and live there .. she one of the most toxic people I have ever seen in Public service since Kimunya days
precisely..it arrogance..poor insecure meet money.people need to study moi humility.Dont allow money to change you
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Baghdad bob you need to adjust your kalenjin lens. How do you study a thief and a murderer? Moi is no role model in anything.....back to Waiguru, queen birch need to go. It's time to weed out these thieves. Uhuru has finally found his footing. Endelea hivyo baba wa taifa. Malisa nyagau
Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put in a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. They will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
she got go. She too toxic for Kirinyaga. Time for her to go back to Nairobi and live there .. she one of the most toxic people I have ever seen in Public service since Kimunya days
precisely..it arrogance..poor insecure meet money.people need to study moi humility.Dont allow money to change you
Patel the day you realize I am just like you...you'll get better.I am not in politics..the last politician I met is ngeny your former md at Telkom..we were at maji house at community ..all I remember big wall hanging of ngeny office in floor of res carpet dotted by Kenyan flag
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..his PA giving is 15k and us waiting with ngeny girlfriends for his arrival..he looked sickly from hiv aids.Small body frame..2001..we ended fighting for that money.ghost looking like biwott
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Pundit as usual can't see beyond his nose. Kang'ata and Raila will put on a charade - but Uhuru thru Tuju or Murathe will demand objectivity. That will be stately and set precedent for Ruto impeachment. Waiguru is going home - collateral damage - this is my reading of Uhuru silence. Otherwise it would never have passed the county assembly.
Uhuru is silent because he wants this to be a Raira Problem. Now if this js the relationship between these 2 baba will be shafted seriously before xmas
Really? When Kang’ata speaks we see it as Uhuru - unless Tuju or Murathe kitchen cabinet members overrule Kang’ata. But I could be wrong - I don't see why Uhuru would allow this to go past MCAs to be "Raila problem" - to what end? It is a chess move - so when they hang Ruto over Kimwarer they can point to Waititu and Waiguru as precedent.
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Waiguru going nowhere as CORONA coalition support her.
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Look like ODM are doing the donkey dirty work; not very smart;
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Look like ODM are doing the donkey dirty work; not very smart;
I said raira is being used by wanjohi seriously. He will be shafted. Raira is losing it and at end of day he is guaranteed nothing
Then its ODM voting for committee even some jubilee are missing.wanjohi effectively ruling with ODM.
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Raila's Capital Hill Committee formed to save Waiguru.
I think Kirinyanga MCA should treat this senate committee with contempt and refuse to attend.
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Raila's Capital Hill Committee formed to save Waiguru.
I think Kirinyanga MCA should treat this senate committee with contempt and refuse to attend.
The people in kirinyaga will be incensed by this and you expect eti baba to inherit GEMA votes? A term has even been coined "capital hill sanitizers" Uhuru is being cleverer than I thought now all hate is being diverted to baba how intelligent . Can't wait baba to go to Kirinyaga or any region in my.kenya and say kitendawili :D
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Waiguru troubles began by co-habiting with Raila and her problem just compounded. But for Raila - he had zero gema - so if he knows has Waiguru - it's worth fighting for.
She will basically have no peace in Kirinyanga but I think she smart enough to try to run with BBI for a national position.
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Waiguru troubles began by co-habiting with Raila and her problem just compounded. But for Raila - he had zero gema - so if he knows has Waiguru - it's worth fighting for.
She will basically have no peace in Kirinyanga but I think she smart enough to try to run with BBI for a national position.
Yes smart of her raira is the mule and she will ride on him. Part of what has made raira a failed politician since 1982 is mixing business with pleasure. He is not a clinical finisher,a good starter but his finishing kick very poor. With this move in senate today I say even with wanjohi support he will clock single digit in mt.kenya already in social media the insults are coming in people say he wants now to destroy the mountain development wise.
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I bet you Ida is leaning on Raila to rescue waiguru. It is not smart politics. He sgould let her hang. She is useless in politics. Waiguru should just be in an office doing mundane shit like issuing memos
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At this point Kenyan politics makes zero sense, to me. Baba has been a force no doubt. But he is now covered in the same muck he was always able to fool supporters that he is above. The guy is getting his cut come what may. 2022 maybe a very volatile election(even by Kenyan standards) if Baba is still around.
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The anti-corruption rhetoric is now gone. I think we are now playing BBI - changing the constitution.
I bet you Ida is leaning on Raila to rescue waiguru. It is not smart politics. He sgould let her hang. She is useless in politics. Waiguru should just be in an office doing mundane shit like issuing memos
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Wanjohi is smarter than i thought, basically he is setting up raira against the GEMA masses. I think it is NOT in his plans to transfer votes to raira, he wants to retain GEMA and use it as a bargaining chip with raira he knows the votes are NOT transferable and you cant sell raira in the mountain. No wonder he wants to destroy hustlers support in mt. Kenya. Whether raira knows this or not is the question or if is a collaborator in this plans we don't know yet but one thing clear now is raira won't be sold to the mountain. This is a very high stakes game wanjohi is playing coming 2022 and i agree with bitmask it will be very polarized because most of the contestants will appear with their tribal blocks Wanjohi having been relegated to only GEMA or even Kikuyu only. no one will be able to have a 30% say in kenyan politics, very balkanized.
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Waiguru troubles began by co-habiting with Raila and her problem just compounded. But for Raila - he had zero gema - so if he knows has Waiguru - it's worth fighting for.
She will basically have no peace in Kirinyanga but I think she smart enough to try to run with BBI for a national position.
Waiguru was Centrals darling because the perception made was that Raila was fighting her and anything Raila touched MT Kenya was against. Having said that personally I see a hand of God in Rutos "tribulations". The elected officials are a burden to his 2022 presidential bid. It would have been hard to manage the nomination fallout , we saw it in 2017 Jubilee primary elections where Uhuru had to use Ruto to avoid the stalling of nominations where the incumbent were trying to rig themselves in . Heck the likes of Transzoia governor were ready to instigate violence to make sure they get the nomination certificate .
Thankfully to Uhuru the baggage is clear off Jubilee . The Mps and senators who have decided committe posts are more important than their political careers have made it easier for Ruto in 2022 just like the Sirmas,Betts,Sally & Henry Kosgeis did it for him in 2013.
Bottom line is any thing Raila touches in Mt Kenya turns from Gold to ashea Waiguru is the example.In 2017 it was Rutto in Riftvalley
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Njuri almost gets it but the blinkers fail him. Kenyatta does not need to sell Odinga to GEMA but to keep them in his grasp. It is therefore quite strategic to let Raila save her and play the gender card, bla bla. Raila loses nothing. Uhuru stays above the fray.
Of course the MCAs no more represent "Kirinyaga people" than Waiguru does. Personally I suspected she was going to be collateral damage in the war against Ruto. I don't get why they let it past MCAs if they meant to save her.
No Njuri, Raila is not being played. He is the de facto DPORK doing his thing for the boss.
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45 vs 14... as usual only URP made frog noises.
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Wanjikus opinion
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Wanjikus opinion
Are you from Kirinyaga? Are you a Jubilee party member?
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Njuri almost gets it but the blinkers fail him. Kenyatta does not need to sell Odinga to GEMA but to keep them in his grasp. It is therefore quite strategic to let Raila save her and play the gender card, bla bla. Raila loses nothing. Uhuru stays above the fray.
Of course the MCAs no more represent "Kirinyaga people" than Waiguru does. Personally I suspected she was going to be collateral damage in the war against Ruto. I don't get why they let it past MCAs if they meant to save her.
No Njuri, Raila is not being played. He is the de facto DPORK doing his thing for the boss.
What are you saying.. confusing
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No body should touch this. Ruto and his team should step back and hope that this committee breaths life to this. This can be good for Ruto. But hold on...unless they are planning to point the guns to Ruto after Waiguru. If this is a chess game, we have a long way to go before a checkmate, and yes, '22 elections may be messy. Whoever saves this character will have a lot of difficult conversion with wanjiku in the entire country.
Wanjikus opinion
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If Uhuru save her, then it would appear he doesn't care about public opinion anymore, and is prepared to be a full blown dictator - I think he already has all the armor - he has killed or controls the opposition, judiciary, parliament (senate is dead), the investigation agencies, the auditor-general, the civil society.
But I think if we fought Moi dictatorship with even less tools - Uhuru will soon realize it's wont be easy to take kenya back to 1980s.
First he need to open torture chambers and assisination squad because there will be resistance
No body should touch this. Ruto and his team should step back and hope that this committee breaths life to this. This can be good for Ruto. But hold on...unless they are planning to point the guns to Ruto after Waiguru. If this is a chess game, we have a long way to go before a checkmate, and yes, '22 elections may be messy. Whoever saves this character will have a lot of difficult conversion with wanjiku in the entire country.
Wanjikus opinion
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Wanjikus opinion
Are you from Kirinyaga? Are you a Jubilee party member?
No Iam from Siaya and an ODM party member. Happy Now
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We should stop pretending that corruption has ever been a hinderance for people not to be elected in Kenya. In fact since the days of Jomo, people who were in office and did not enrich themselves were scorned by Jomo and the public.
The people of Kirinyaga knew whom they had elected as governor and were ready to pay the price. Let them have a taste of their own medicine.
Even many people here in this forum defended Waiguru during the NYS saga. I have never heard a case in Kenya where the PS, the procurement officers and many other ministry officials point at the minister in charge and yet we are told she is white as cotton. Even in the heydays of Moi we never heard of people going to the bank and carrying millions and in this case billions in gunias. Waiguru with the help of Uhuru took corruption in Kenya to a new level.
If Uhuru save her, then it would appear he doesn't care about public opinion anymore, and is prepared to be a full blown dictator - I think he already has all the armor - he has killed or controls the opposition, judiciary, parliament (senate is dead), the investigation agencies, the auditor-general, the civil society.
But I think if we fought Moi dictatorship with even less tools - Uhuru will soon realize it's wont be easy to take kenya back to 1980s.
First he need to open torture chambers and assisination squad because there will be resistance