If he's dead, what difference does it make? Crowds were used to prevent his release after the court ordered it and medication was denied. They killed him all the same. He didn't just die.There would be more outrage and whoever is advancing this bullshiet knows Jubilee is terribly scared of public outrage more so in such an instance where it’d be justified
#freemigunamiguna now -and he is already dead :). Miguna will be arraigned in court somewhere and police will ask for 14 more days to keep him :).
The more he stays in police custody the better for his political career and also for NASA’s “free Miguna campaign”. These are good times for NASA movement to solidify its base and to continue depicting Ouruto as dictators and despots.
The more he stays in police custody the better for his political career and also for NASA’s “free Miguna campaign”. These are good times for NASA movement to solidify its base and to continue depicting Ouruto as dictators and despots.#freemigunamiguna now -and he is already dead :). Miguna will be arraigned in court somewhere and police will ask for 14 more days to keep him :).
Is that an injury on his face?He’s had it but for some reason it looks far much bigger than what I’ve seen before
'I am fearless. It does not matter what they do”.....NRM General Miguna Miguna
— A Karani O (@erwoti) February 6, 2018
"Wan kodi"......We are with you. #MigunaCharged #FreeMigunaMigunaNow pic.twitter.com/KD3drYu5zo
Miguna en route to Milimani Law Courts from Kajiado, the matter was coming for Ruling By Judge Kimaru at 3 pm. Let’s hope this rigmarole ends!
— Otiende Amollo, SC,MP, EBS (@OAmollo) February 6, 2018
Kimaru throws Miguna a life-line ; All charges will null & void for police failing to obey orders.Excellent. The only way to deal with a rogue government. It's like back in the day when confessions given to police were made useless in court because of police resort to torture against all laws and warnings. Then those tortures stopped. They were no longer that useful.
I guess police will have to re-arrest him again and charge him afresh....and arraign him in a day and release him upon orders or the same consequences follow. But what will they charge him with this time?
Kimaru throws Miguna a life-line ; All charges will null & void for police failing to obey orders.Excellent. The only way to deal with a rogue government. It's like back in the day when confessions given to police were made useless in court because of police resort to torture against all laws and warnings. Then those tortures stopped. They were no longer that useful.QuoteI guess police will have to re-arrest him again and charge him afresh....and arraign him in a day and release him upon orders or the same consequences follow. But what will they charge him with this time?
Miguna had been rejected in his town of Ahero but now as we speak, Ahero is rioting demanding the release of Miguna. This government has done for Miguna politically what he could not dream of even two months ago. They can arrest him again and charge him again but the charges are silly and will not be sustained. Any law student can cut and paste charges on paper but to prove the elements of those charges one by one beyond reasonable doubt is another matter.
Miguna Miguna is unstable mind and will blow all the goodwill he has from Luo Nyanza in a single outburst against Baba.Lol. That is also likely true! :DMiguna had been rejected in his town of Ahero but now as we speak, Ahero is rioting demanding the release of Miguna. This government has done for Miguna politically what he could not dream of even two months ago. They can arrest him again and charge him again but the charges are silly and will not be sustained. Any law student can cut and paste charges on paper but to prove the elements of those charges one by one beyond reasonable doubt is another matter.
That's a possibility Windy.
Arresting Raila would be an own goal for Jubilee. The aim of the swearing-in was to escalate the pressure for "talks" - about electoral justice, fresh elections, nusu mkate, etc - a Raila arrest aids that. Intimidating the retinue is a fair workaround. Perhaps we will resume the demands for talks once this is over? Besides the swearing-in there must be a few more arrows left in the NASA quiver.
Earlier in Kajiado
He is still bullying everyone and cracking jokes, incarceration notwithstanding
Something off with the sound. He doesn't looked traumatised or anything.I think it was a cheap Kung fu knock off device thst recorded.
Seems he is now free.
vooke Has Miguna been freed?
Miguna yet to be freed, court orders cops to present him tomorrow
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/02/06/miguna-yet-to-be-freed-court-orders-cops-to-present-him-tomorrow_c1710179 (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/02/06/miguna-yet-to-be-freed-court-orders-cops-to-present-him-tomorrow_c1710179)Seems he is now free.
Uh? Link?
Kenyan citizens by birth who voluntarily renounced their Kenyan nationality when acquiring the citizenship of another country (in accordance with the repealed constitution), are entitled to regain their citizenship by applying in the prescribed manner. The procedure, undertaken by the Ministry of Immigration and Registration of Persons, may take a period of one year or more.
Kenyan citizens who hold dual citizenship and have renounced or lost their Kenyan citizenship at the age of twenty three (23) (in accordance with the repealed constitution), are automatically considered a Kenyan citizen by birth and may apply for citizenship in the prescribed manner.
Kenyan citizens who obtain the citizenship of another country are required to disclose their other (non-Kenyan) citizenship within three months of becoming a dual citizen. Failure to do so is an offence.
Source: immigration website
Is MM in denial or is selective truth become his mainstay?
Before 2010 (new constitution) one had to renounce their Kenyan citizenship before taking up another citizenship. This is exactly why heros like Onyango Oloo didn't become a Canadian citizen.
MM renounced his Kenyan citizenship to become a Canadian citizen and by the sound of things he didn't follow due process in 2010 in re-applying for Kenyan citizenship. It's illegal to claim dual citizenship without following due process. You can't assume the system will figure it out on its own because you're born Kenyan. That's like saying since Obama's dad is Kenyan, Obama can assume he's entitled to Kenyan citizenship without ever even applying for Kenyan citizenship.
Why did MM renew his Canadian passport if he's so attached to Kenya? Is he ashamed to carry around a Kenyan passport?
Is MM in denial or is selective truth become his mainstay?
Before 2010 (new constitution) one had to renounce their Kenyan citizenship before taking up another citizenship. This is exactly why heros like Onyango Oloo didn't become a Canadian citizen.
MM renounced his Kenyan citizenship to become a Canadian citizen and by the sound of things he didn't follow due process in 2010 in re-applying for Kenyan citizenship. It's illegal to claim dual citizenship without following due process. You can't assume the system will figure it out on its own because you're born Kenyan. That's like saying since Obama's dad is Kenyan, Obama can assume he's entitled to Kenyan citizenship without ever even applying for Kenyan citizenship.
Why did MM renew his Canadian passport if he's so attached to Kenya? Is he ashamed to carry around a Kenyan passport?
Precisely. He just need to apply for one - simple form - and he can comeback - and get tried for treason.Is MM in denial or is selective truth become his mainstay?
Before 2010 (new constitution) one had to renounce their Kenyan citizenship before taking up another citizenship. This is exactly why heros like Onyango Oloo didn't become a Canadian citizen.
MM renounced his Kenyan citizenship to become a Canadian citizen and by the sound of things he didn't follow due process in 2010 in re-applying for Kenyan citizenship. It's illegal to claim dual citizenship without following due process. You can't assume the system will figure it out on its own because you're born Kenyan. That's like saying since Obama's dad is Kenyan, Obama can assume he's entitled to Kenyan citizenship without ever even applying for Kenyan citizenship.
Why did MM renew his Canadian passport if he's so attached to Kenya? Is he ashamed to carry around a Kenyan passport?
I actually think where someone didn't actively renounce their citizenship then the 2010 constitution by virtue of replacing the dodgy old one re-instated the lost citizenship as it's main function was to put right ills from the old one.Bryan,
I actually think where someone didn't actively renounce their citizenship then the 2010 constitution by virtue of replacing the dodgy old one re-instated the lost citizenship as it's main function was to put right ills from the old one.Bryan,
I think the legality of Jubilee’s act lies on the interpretation of this bit. How do those who lost their Kenyan citizenship by the virtue of acquiring another regain Kenyan citizenship?
I actually think where someone didn't actively renounce their citizenship then the 2010 constitution by virtue of replacing the dodgy old one re-instated the lost citizenship as it's main function was to put right ills from the old one.Bryan,
I think the legality of Jubilee’s act lies on the interpretation of this bit. How do those who lost their Kenyan citizenship by the virtue of acquiring another regain Kenyan citizenship?
It's the fact that losing citizenship by virtue was faulty in itself. How do we have a situation where my children who were born abroad could end up being more Kenyan than I am and I was born in Kenya? It's preposterous.
Only those that actively renounced either verbally or in writing should reapply.
Somebody clarified
Look at article 14(5)
Former citizens by birth are ENTITLED to citizenship UPON APPLICATION. You can't presume them to be citizens under the new katiba just because they once we're, but should they wish to obtain it, it's their right.
So I know the next course of action is for Miguna to apply for citizenship. He is not a citizen
Maraga wades in
....
Somebody clarified
Look at article 14(5)
Former citizens by birth are ENTITLED to citizenship UPON APPLICATION. You can't presume them to be citizens under the new katiba just because they once we're, but should they wish to obtain it, it's their right.
So I know the next course of action is for Miguna to apply for citizenship. He is not a citizen
Matiang'i is right then. Miguna was in Kenya illegally or did he have a visa or some permit? - which Matiang'i can cancel. In case he threatens the peace like he has done.
Is MM in denial or is selective truth become his mainstay?
Before 2010 (new constitution) one had to renounce their Kenyan citizenship before taking up another citizenship. This is exactly why heros like Onyango Oloo didn't become a Canadian citizen.
MM renounced his Kenyan citizenship to become a Canadian citizen and by the sound of things he didn't follow due process in 2010 in re-applying for Kenyan citizenship. It's illegal to claim dual citizenship without following due process. You can't assume the system will figure it out on its own because you're born Kenyan. That's like saying since Obama's dad is Kenyan, Obama can assume he's entitled to Kenyan citizenship without ever even applying for Kenyan citizenship.
Why did MM renew his Canadian passport if he's so attached to Kenya? Is he ashamed to carry around a Kenyan passport?
Wasn't so much renouncing as in automatically losing their citizenship on taking up alternative citizenship. Countries like Spain and Germany require renunciation. The UK and Canada do not.
I actually think where someone didn't actively renounce their citizenship then the 2010 constitution by virtue of replacing the dodgy old one re-instated the lost citizenship as it's main function was to put right ills from the old one.
The Miguna Miguna extradition /deportation saga reminds me of one Sheikh Khalid Balala in the 90's. The Nyayo regime couldn't allow him to disembark from a Lufthansa flight from Germany at MIA, Msa. The airplane had to leave with Balala onboard back to Germany coz ostensibly, the then fiery IPK leader wasn't a Kenyan :D
For those who love history and my fellow Kenyans of convenient short memory , welcome to Mombasa and greet Sheikh Khalid Balala anywhere along Digo Rd,.where he strolls freely as a Kenyan citizen with all the glamour,rights and confidence (Kanyanga nchi yako kwa nguvu Na Raha, hilo ndilo hakikisho ya Rais wetu(Jomo))so the song goes!
Ukistajabu ya Balala bado utayaona ya Miguna Miguna!!!
. @MIGUNAMlGUNA has been charged with treason and is already trying to paint himself as the victim. Some things never change. https://t.co/7A6slOMCXz
— rcb:// (@rbowen) February 6, 2018
Dear Kenyans,
— gathara (@gathara) February 8, 2018
Y'know, it occurs to me that in December 2016 GoK deported British journalist @jeromestarkey in much the same manner as it has @MigunaMiguna but @CoalitionNASAKe said nothing because they weren't British journalists.
Dear Kenyans,
— gathara (@gathara) February 8, 2018
Y'know, it occurs to me that in December 2016 GoK deported British journalist @jeromestarkey in much the same manner as it has @MigunaMiguna but @CoalitionNASAKe said nothing because they weren't British journalists.
Suddenly, every NASWA mongrel is taking a dump at his TL in protest
By Peter Kerre... FB
Some Kenyans in the diaspora are perfect examples of the 'Kenyan Self-Hate' and 'tribal cocooning' problem rampant among us. They are here in the diaspora and clearly see a case of a Kenyan being deported from Kenya by an overstepping government, yet by default , they start trying to look for every sort of justification or excuse validating this shocking act, bearing in mind that the Kenyan deported by the Kenyan government was NOT even presented before a judge to sign off on the deportation. He was also held incommunicado for several days within which the Kenya Police defied COURT ORDERS to submit him before Judges. None of them are pointing this out...
These same Kenyans have no hesitancy criticizing Trump for every little cough or tweet, criticizing the US government for deportation of immigrants, and even loudly vouch for black lives matter and other rights campaigns.....YET when it comes to fellow Kenyans, suddenly things change.
The catch is...... 99% of the individuals I have seen do this ( in this specific case of the deportation ) ( and many who I have considered forward thinking friends ) are from one Kenyan tribe....which is greatly represented within government over opposition.
Interestingly, in this diaspora, we ALWAYS get to a point where we need fellow Kenya diaspora to be there for us in one way or another so please take notes of these people , for when that moment comes, would be glad to provide them with contacts of Kenyan government officials who they can email or call to sort them out, since they fail to see any shortcomings by them.
In the meantime, to all other Kenyan Diaspora, be aware of those you count as friends, for we are living in dangerous times when your own folks are ready to consider you guilty until proven innocent if you are from a tribe with a different political leaning ( and this goes both ways ). I don't believe I need to tag anyone as some of them, driven by guilt, will present themselves in the comments section below, otherwise, most of you already know them.
If MM hasn't re-applied for citizenship then he shouldn't bother. I can't believe GoK tweeted MM's passport details to the world. MM should sue for breach of privacy.
Miguna is an illegal alien inciting violence and insurrection against a host government. The application needs approval by the same government. Tough luck.
As much as I loath Miguna's arrogance, he's entitled to regain his Kenyan citizenship. If Jubilee stupidly refuse his application, then they will be, yet again, contravening the constitution.
somebody elsewhere opined that if only the government of Kenya fought corrupt officials and drug dealers with the same gusto as they have fought NASA in the last few days, they would make a huge dent on corruption and drug trafficking: Storm the houses of the suspects in the middle of the night or early morning with bombs and guns blazing; revoke their passports and deport them; Deny them legal representation by zungusharing them around the country all night looking for a court room somewhere to arraign them; disobey court orders to release them. But NOOOOOO, when it comes to corruption ouru throws his hands up and says, "jameni !, mnataka nifanye nini"? 90% of NIS resources is assigned to NASA. That is a shithole.
somebody elsewhere opined that if only the government of Kenya fought corrupt officials and drug dealers with the same gusto as they have fought NASA in the last few days, they would make a huge dent on corruption and drug trafficking: Storm the houses of the suspects in the middle of the night or early morning with bombs and guns blazing; revoke their passports and deport them; Deny them legal representation by zungusharing them around the country all night looking for a court room somewhere to arraign them; disobey court orders to release them. But NOOOOOO, when it comes to corruption ouru throws his hands up and says, "jameni !, mnataka nifanye nini"? 90% of NIS resources is assigned to NASA. That is a shithole.
Except they'd be fighting themselves.
Dear Kenyans,
— gathara (@gathara) February 8, 2018
Y'know, it occurs to me that in December 2016 GoK deported British journalist @jeromestarkey in much the same manner as it has @MigunaMiguna but @CoalitionNASAKe said nothing because they weren't British journalists.
Suddenly, every NASWA mongrel is taking a dump at his TL in protest
Was the Brit born in Kenya?
somebody elsewhere opined that if only the government of Kenya fought corrupt officials and drug dealers with the same gusto as they have fought NASA in the last few days, they would make a huge dent on corruption and drug trafficking: Storm the houses of the suspects in the middle of the night or early morning with bombs and guns blazing; revoke their passports and deport them; Deny them legal representation by zungusharing them around the country all night looking for a court room somewhere to arraign them; disobey court orders to release them. But NOOOOOO, when it comes to corruption ouru throws his hands up and says, "jameni !, mnataka nifanye nini"? 90% of NIS resources is assigned to NASA. That is a shithole.
Dear Kenyans,
— gathara (@gathara) February 8, 2018
Y'know, it occurs to me that in December 2016 GoK deported British journalist @jeromestarkey in much the same manner as it has @MigunaMiguna but @CoalitionNASAKe said nothing because they weren't British journalists.
Suddenly, every NASWA mongrel is taking a dump at his TL in protest
Was the Brit born in Kenya?
Nope,
He was a foreign correspondent based in Kenya for over 4yrs.
He of course had far fewer rights to be here than Miguna but Gathare’s point was that NASWA looked the other way when arbitrary deportation was exercised back then because they were not concerned. It’s only when Miguna is hounded out that they are discovering immigration law.
Starkey wrote something about Eurobond and that did him in. Recall too the consultants NASWA shipped in to help with tallying. Point is deportation can and has been wielded politically,and it should be a point of concern.
By Peter Kerre... FB
Some Kenyans in the diaspora are perfect examples of the 'Kenyan Self-Hate' and 'tribal cocooning' problem rampant among us. They are here in the diaspora and clearly see a case of a Kenyan being deported from Kenya by an overstepping government, yet by default , they start trying to look for every sort of justification or excuse validating this shocking act, bearing in mind that the Kenyan deported by the Kenyan government was NOT even presented before a judge to sign off on the deportation. He was also held incommunicado for several days within which the Kenya Police defied COURT ORDERS to submit him before Judges. None of them are pointing this out...
These same Kenyans have no hesitancy criticizing Trump for every little cough or tweet, criticizing the US government for deportation of immigrants, and even loudly vouch for black lives matter and other rights campaigns.....YET when it comes to fellow Kenyans, suddenly things change.
The catch is...... 99% of the individuals I have seen do this ( in this specific case of the deportation ) ( and many who I have considered forward thinking friends ) are from one Kenyan tribe....which is greatly represented within government over opposition.
Interestingly, in this diaspora, we ALWAYS get to a point where we need fellow Kenya diaspora to be there for us in one way or another so please take notes of these people , for when that moment comes, would be glad to provide them with contacts of Kenyan government officials who they can email or call to sort them out, since they fail to see any shortcomings by them.
In the meantime, to all other Kenyan Diaspora, be aware of those you count as friends, for we are living in dangerous times when your own folks are ready to consider you guilty until proven innocent if you are from a tribe with a different political leaning ( and this goes both ways ). I don't believe I need to tag anyone as some of them, driven by guilt, will present themselves in the comments section below, otherwise, most of you already know them.
I don't think it's so much an innocent explanation as a differing viewpoint. Mostly they can't see your pain wrapped in shiny vitriol. Around other circles you will hear how the opposition is dominated by one group - is therefore polarized in antagonist tone and agenda. Like CNN's Oscar award in fake news, this group deserves an Oscar in whining.
Ever wonder why one group is more antagonistic, angrier and ever intransigent over just about everything? They attempt to rub their anger onto their political partners only for faultlines to emerge. The man who helped them get closest to power in Kenyan history is now enemy numero uno. Baptized in a variety of demeaning epiphets. Once a supporter one must stick with them or else. Some think this dogma or jingo has an innocent explanation, but I believe people cannot be required to feel or be a certain ideal.
Your questions and these - opposing views - is why we have politics and parties and left and right and whatnot. Men differ; That's why there are conflicts in the world - we are lucky Kenya's is just political. Not armed or the terror kind. Democracy is about tolerance as much as the vote. But universal suffrage has very negative traits. The democratic journey is thorny. Personally I don't find democracy is a panacea for anything. In a heterogenous, divided hateful place like Kenya we should have federalism or a rotational presidency like Malaysia. I digress.
Your writer's bigotry unveils itself when he points out the mystery "group" is 99% from one tribe. Statistically speaking, since the other Kenyans are absolutely sympathetic to his cause, he has 80% Kenyan diaspora support and should not be so bothered by the minority. Let him convene the weeping club already.
I get your point Windy. The charade called democracy is pointless in polarized society. We should discard it for a better system. For the moment the group your friend loathes will prevail and he'll be hurling epiphets and conjuring boogeymen to no avail.
Not all Kenyans or Africans in the US support BLM. I don't. The progressive left is intolerant and fascist. BLM and the racist, hateful violent Antifa are just hallmarks of this modern communism. It's stereotypical and undemocratic that all African Americans are BLMers. Of course the right has its dark side too so I prefer to be independent.
I agree on your main thrust. I disagree on the solution. The solution to me is more federalism. Strong center but also strong federal units along the tribal unit...but not strong enough to break away. I'd give 47 counties all the power and responsibility except for military+most of the police. That way a nation like kenya with lots of nations or tribes can live harmoniously..except for few counties that are cosmopolitan. I think rigorous boundary re-drawing can sort about half of those. Kuria -moved to - Gusii - Mt elgon to Tranzoia - I'd give people questionnaire to choice where they want to belong to - and somehow make a truly tribal map :) - except for cities - Kisumu-Eld-Nakuru-Nairobi-Mombasa - should become city counties - so have say 5 counties and 50 city county aka congressional district.
I agree on your main thrust. I disagree on the solution. The solution to me is more federalism. Strong center but also strong federal units along the tribal unit...but not strong enough to break away. I'd give 47 counties all the power and responsibility except for military+most of the police. That way a nation like kenya with lots of nations or tribes can live harmoniously..except for few counties that are cosmopolitan. I think rigorous boundary re-drawing can sort about half of those. Kuria -moved to - Gusii - Mt elgon to Tranzoia - I'd give people questionnaire to choice where they want to belong to - and somehow make a truly tribal map :) - except for cities - Kisumu-Eld-Nakuru-Nairobi-Mombasa - should become city counties - so have say 5 counties and 50 city county aka congressional district.Pundit,I get your point Windy. The charade called democracy is pointless in polarized society. We should discard it for a better system. For the moment the group your friend loathes will prevail and he'll be hurling epiphets and conjuring boogeymen to no avail.
Not all Kenyans or Africans in the US support BLM. I don't. The progressive left is intolerant and fascist. BLM and the racist, hateful violent Antifa are just hallmarks of this modern communism. It's stereotypical and undemocratic that all African Americans are BLMers. Of course the right has its dark side too so I prefer to be independent.
Be carefull. With the current IEBC Eldoret might choose to belong to Kiambu County. :D :D :D :D
By Peter Kerre... FB
Some Kenyans in the diaspora are perfect examples of the 'Kenyan Self-Hate' and 'tribal cocooning' problem rampant among us. They are here in the diaspora and clearly see a case of a Kenyan being deported from Kenya by an overstepping government, yet by default , they start trying to look for every sort of justification or excuse validating this shocking act, bearing in mind that the Kenyan deported by the Kenyan government was NOT even presented before a judge to sign off on the deportation. He was also held incommunicado for several days within which the Kenya Police defied COURT ORDERS to submit him before Judges. None of them are pointing this out...
These same Kenyans have no hesitancy criticizing Trump for every little cough or tweet, criticizing the US government for deportation of immigrants, and even loudly vouch for black lives matter and other rights campaigns.....YET when it comes to fellow Kenyans, suddenly things change.
The catch is...... 99% of the individuals I have seen do this ( in this specific case of the deportation ) ( and many who I have considered forward thinking friends ) are from one Kenyan tribe....which is greatly represented within government over opposition.
Interestingly, in this diaspora, we ALWAYS get to a point where we need fellow Kenya diaspora to be there for us in one way or another so please take notes of these people , for when that moment comes, would be glad to provide them with contacts of Kenyan government officials who they can email or call to sort them out, since they fail to see any shortcomings by them.
In the meantime, to all other Kenyan Diaspora, be aware of those you count as friends, for we are living in dangerous times when your own folks are ready to consider you guilty until proven innocent if you are from a tribe with a different political leaning ( and this goes both ways ). I don't believe I need to tag anyone as some of them, driven by guilt, will present themselves in the comments section below, otherwise, most of you already know them.
I know Kenyans like this. Some are church leaders even. One can confuse it for hypocrisy, but I think there is a more innocent explanation. They simply can't wrap their minds around introspection and empathy.
By Peter Kerre... FB
Some Kenyans in the diaspora are perfect examples of the 'Kenyan Self-Hate' and 'tribal cocooning' problem rampant among us. They are here in the diaspora and clearly see a case of a Kenyan being deported from Kenya by an overstepping government, yet by default , they start trying to look for every sort of justification or excuse validating this shocking act, bearing in mind that the Kenyan deported by the Kenyan government was NOT even presented before a judge to sign off on the deportation. He was also held incommunicado for several days within which the Kenya Police defied COURT ORDERS to submit him before Judges. None of them are pointing this out...
These same Kenyans have no hesitancy criticizing Trump for every little cough or tweet, criticizing the US government for deportation of immigrants, and even loudly vouch for black lives matter and other rights campaigns.....YET when it comes to fellow Kenyans, suddenly things change.
The catch is...... 99% of the individuals I have seen do this ( in this specific case of the deportation ) ( and many who I have considered forward thinking friends ) are from one Kenyan tribe....which is greatly represented within government over opposition.
Interestingly, in this diaspora, we ALWAYS get to a point where we need fellow Kenya diaspora to be there for us in one way or another so please take notes of these people , for when that moment comes, would be glad to provide them with contacts of Kenyan government officials who they can email or call to sort them out, since they fail to see any shortcomings by them.
In the meantime, to all other Kenyan Diaspora, be aware of those you count as friends, for we are living in dangerous times when your own folks are ready to consider you guilty until proven innocent if you are from a tribe with a different political leaning ( and this goes both ways ). I don't believe I need to tag anyone as some of them, driven by guilt, will present themselves in the comments section below, otherwise, most of you already know them.
I know Kenyans like this. Some are church leaders even. One can confuse it for hypocrisy, but I think there is a more innocent explanation. They simply can't wrap their minds around introspection and empathy.
Well, my personal approach ni kuwazimia simu. Nothing less.
Miguna claims the Mortician. The chap has decided to run instead of meeting MM and his battery of sharp lawyers in court. I suspect he's the one that advised the electoral fraudsters about Miguna's deportation.Now that’s funny
They are appealing
(https://s9.postimg.org/k04xuwzrj/AD4_BB432-4_AE6-4_F66-_B860-20_FDC0443_C3_D.jpg)
I think the very contempt of court ought to make the Court of appeal ignore them with utter contempt
What are they appealing. Everybody knows Miguna is a Kenyan citizen and they want to waste peoples time litigating a none issue. This is impunity pure and simple. Trump cancelled DACA but when the court ruled against him he complied. Who does Ouru think he is?
They are appealing
(https://s9.postimg.org/k04xuwzrj/AD4_BB432-4_AE6-4_F66-_B860-20_FDC0443_C3_D.jpg)
I think the very contempt of court ought to make the Court of appeal ignore them with utter contempt
Here is the response from the horse's mouth
I think Jubilee to save face will fish for the most compliant appeal judges
Too bad they don’t get to choose the bench.
Let’s just say if they get a different ruling,it’ll confirm Judiciary is firmly under Jubilee.Here is the response from the horse's mouth
A judge cannot change the constitution. Whatever they do, they will fail. Its not up to them anymore. This swearing in has really rattled them and they are doing things that even their supporters are finding difficult to support. That's downward spiral.I think Jubilee to save face will fish for the most compliant appeal judges
Too bad they don’t get to choose the bench.
Let’s just say if they get a different ruling,it’ll confirm Judiciary is firmly under Jubilee.Here is the response from the horse's mouth
?s=19By castrating himself, recognizing & GROVELLING before @UKenyatta who stole his victory and murdered & maimed thousands of his supporters and DESECRATED the constitution, rule of law & democracy, @RailaOdinga has BETRAYED Kenyans. You can't dialogue without leverage. #UhuruMustGo
— Dr. Miguna Miguna (@MigunaMiguna) March 10, 2018
Lol. Miguna will come back and find folks have moved on... with former guerillas clamoring to join the government.
Miguna coming back on Monday, say lawyers
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2018/03/miguna-coming-back-monday-say-lawyers/ (https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2018/03/miguna-coming-back-monday-say-lawyers/)
Lol. Miguna will come back and find folks have moved on... with former guerillas clamoring to join the government.
Miguna coming back on Monday, say lawyers
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2018/03/miguna-coming-back-monday-say-lawyers/ (https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2018/03/miguna-coming-back-monday-say-lawyers/)
Can’t sign,won’t sign
Impasse over lawyer Miguna Miguna's return to Kenya persists at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport in Nairobi as his lawyer Cliff Ombeta says he will not fill citizenship forms issued by the Immigration department.
Mr Ombeta on Tuesday said his client would not apply for Kenyan citizenship afresh "because it would mean that Miguna will be agreeing that the government was right about his citizenship."
He called on the government to respect High Court order that allowed Dr Miguna back into Kenya after his illegal deportation to Canada.
"He should be allowed to enter Kenya on the strength of the court order," Mr Ombeta told journalists at JKIA.
He said inking the documents would mean that Dr Miguna agrees that the government was right from the start that he was illegally in Kenya.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Miguna-Miguna-refuses-to-sign-citizenship-papers-at-JKIA/1056-4359758-a5rr5yz/index.html
GoK should just grant his wishes and give him back his passport, etc. He is irrelevant to the chess game being played in town. Even as a pawn.Uhuru is vindictive and hell bent to see him pay
GoK should just grant his wishes and give him back his passport, etc. He is irrelevant to the chess game being played in town. Even as a pawn.
Dual Citizenship – (Regaining citizenship)
Persons who lost Kenyan citizenship under the old constitution by acquiring citizenship of other countries before 27th, August 2010 are entitled to regain on application by filling:-
Two copies of Form 5 “Regain Citizenship form”: Click here to download and attach the following:-
Two copies of proof of previous Kenyan citizenship (copy of passport, Birth certificate and Kenyan ID
Two copies of proof of Canadian citizenship (bio-data page of Canadian passport, Canadian citizenship certificate, and Canadian citizenship card). Upon declaration, one is issued with acknowledgement letter which they should retain for record purposes.
Self-addressed prepaid X-Press post return courier envelope and mail by courier to the following address:-
Kenya High Commission, 415 Laurier Avenue East, Ottawa, ON K1N 6R4
NOTE: Please note that a fee of Cdn. $80.00 will be requested for once your application has been approved.
The drama queen is really enjoying it; Bundle him into a chartered flight and drop him back in Canada. It cheaper than allowing him to break the laws of international travel.
Babu has bigger demons to fly(pun)
(https://s31.postimg.org/4xyap2nh7/756_D20_EB-1_C8_C-47_AF-9_FDE-9_EC91_E9_B1_AA9.jpg)
Woah they really know how to deal with Raila.Babu has bigger demons to fly(pun)
(https://s31.postimg.org/4xyap2nh7/756_D20_EB-1_C8_C-47_AF-9_FDE-9_EC91_E9_B1_AA9.jpg)
UhuRuto should let Raila be acting PORK for a day... as his father wished from Moi. They can go to China for 2 days.Woah they really know how to deal with Raila.Babu has bigger demons to fly(pun)
(https://s31.postimg.org/4xyap2nh7/756_D20_EB-1_C8_C-47_AF-9_FDE-9_EC91_E9_B1_AA9.jpg)
?s=19I was drugged before deportation to Dubai, Miguna claims https://t.co/sb8qSUmZQA #MigunaDeportedAgain pic.twitter.com/ErZni46oJU
— Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) March 29, 2018
?s=19I was drugged before deportation to Dubai, Miguna claims https://t.co/sb8qSUmZQA #MigunaDeportedAgain pic.twitter.com/ErZni46oJU
— Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) March 29, 2018
Invalid Tweet ID?s=19
Termie,
What would motivate Miguna to hide his Canadian passport from Kenyan authorities?
Worst they can do is take it away but he can always get a court order. If they destroy it,Canadian Embassy shouldn’t hesitate issuing a new one. That’s the one thing I can’t figure in all this.
Termie,
What would motivate Miguna to hide his Canadian passport from Kenyan authorities?
Worst they can do is take it away but he can always get a court order. If they destroy it,Canadian Embassy shouldn’t hesitate issuing a new one. That’s the one thing I can’t figure in all this.
I have no idea. Isn't he denying that? It's hard to tell what is real and what is hyperbole with Miguna. What I know is his woes can only be about the undermining the handshake. Someone in government wants to tick off Raila and his band and force them back into the trenches. If they let Miguna in without drama, he would not last one news cycle. He poses no credible threat.
Termie,
What would motivate Miguna to hide his Canadian passport from Kenyan authorities?
Worst they can do is take it away but he can always get a court order. If they destroy it,Canadian Embassy shouldn’t hesitate issuing a new one. That’s the one thing I can’t figure in all this.
I have no idea. Isn't he denying that? It's hard to tell what is real and what is hyperbole with Miguna. What I know is his woes can only be about the undermining the handshake. Someone in government wants to tick off Raila and his band and force them back into the trenches. If they let Miguna in without drama, he would not last one news cycle. He poses no credible threat.
The KHRC officials yesterday said as much. Miguna refused to surrender his Canadian passport and instead offered his Kenyan ID. While I think his mistreatment is totally unconscionable, I can't quite figure that out.
The first presser Orengo gave after they tried to secure his release he mentioned it as well. He suggested that Miguna may have taken cue from Wanjigi who surrendered his on his way to Zimbabwe and it was withheld.
Forget about all the the speculation and focus on his Canadian passport. He checks in and flies using it, then upon landing he for some reasons hide and refuse to show it. I'm.beginning to link that the entire show is all about Miguna's ego. He blundered in failing defiantly withholding it, and he can't throw away all that by surrendering it now.
He is in Dubai demanding his Kenyan passport be processed
You can always get your canadian passport replaced in Canadian High Commission if it get lost or stolen or withheld.Miguna should follow the law - regularize his citizenship -- as per the law or have that act declared uncostitutional . Miguna Miguna came for the drama. He knew there was no crowd waiting to welcome him for the Lunga Lunga dance so this has been good for him. He'll go back to Canada and begin round 2 of fund raising for NRM from gullible diaspora - and he'll make some money.
You are a despicable human being and no different from the animals who injected Miguna with toxic substances and made him stateless. Miguna is a Kenyan citizen by birth regardless of what other citizenship he has acquired. Only animals reason like you. You make me want to puke. Miguna will definitely be allowed into Kenya in his own terms. He will sue the government of Kenya and win. He will also sue Emirates airline for transporting him without his consent and without any papers. What was done to Miguna is barbaric and should not be supported by anyone even thos who did not enter into a classroom let alone those who claim to have received an education. What is the use of an education if you still act and reason like an animal.
Miguna's Canadian passport should not even be an issue because it is not necessary when he is trying to enter into Kenya. Many Kenyans leave the US with a US passport but when they get to Kenya they produce their Kenyan passport to avoid applying for a visa and paying the $50.00, also to avoid getting a limited time in Kenya. The government of Kenya was ordered by the courts to facilitate Miguna's entry into Kenya. All they had to do was to quickly prepare an emergency document for Miguna, take his picture and let him in. They do not need his Canadian passport. To say that the people doing this are trying to undermine handshake is also giving them too much credit. These are people who believe that might is right and are used to abusing power and to getting their way even when they are wrong. Its an ego/tribal arrogance/power thing coupled with ignorance. They see it as Miguna win and they cannot just live with that. Its that stupid and simple.Termie,
What would motivate Miguna to hide his Canadian passport from Kenyan authorities?
Worst they can do is take it away but he can always get a court order. If they destroy it,Canadian Embassy shouldn’t hesitate issuing a new one. That’s the one thing I can’t figure in all this.
I have no idea. Isn't he denying that? It's hard to tell what is real and what is hyperbole with Miguna. What I know is his woes can only be about the undermining the handshake. Someone in government wants to tick off Raila and his band and force them back into the trenches. If they let Miguna in without drama, he would not last one news cycle. He poses no credible threat.
The KHRC officials yesterday said as much. Miguna refused to surrender his Canadian passport and instead offered his Kenyan ID. While I think his mistreatment is totally unconscionable, I can't quite figure that out.
The first presser Orengo gave after they tried to secure his release he mentioned it as well. He suggested that Miguna may have taken cue from Wanjigi who surrendered his on his way to Zimbabwe and it was withheld.
Forget about all the the speculation and focus on his Canadian passport. He checks in and flies using it, then upon landing he for some reasons hide and refuse to show it. I'm.beginning to link that the entire show is all about Miguna's ego. He blundered in failing defiantly withholding it, and he can't throw away all that by surrendering it now.
He is in Dubai demanding his Kenyan passport be processed
You can always get your canadian passport replaced in Canadian High Commission if it get lost or stolen or withheld.Miguna should follow the law - regularize his citizenship -- as per the law or have that act declared uncostitutional . Miguna Miguna came for the drama. He knew there was no crowd waiting to welcome him for the Lunga Lunga dance so this has been good for him. He'll go back to Canada and begin round 2 of fund raising for NRM from gullible diaspora - and he'll make some money.
You are a despicable human being and no different from the animals who injected Miguna with toxic substances and made him stateless. Miguna is a Kenyan citizen by birth regardless of what other citizenship he has acquired. Only animals reason like you. You make me want to puke. Miguna will definitely be allowed into Kenya in his own terms. He will sue the government of Kenya and win. He will also sue Emirates airline for transporting him without his consent and without any papers. What was done to Miguna is barbaric and should not be supported by anyone even thos who did not enter into a classroom let alone those who claim to have received an education. What is the use of an education if you still act and reason like an animal.
The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
Miguna is the animal here - he was given several options - despite obviously committing treason by swearing in Raila and declaring himself a General of NRM (a proscribed movement) and daring Matianga. That is the animal who wanted this drama - his lawyers, raila and even human right folks tried to get him in but he simply refused - and wanted to enter with kifua.You are a despicable human being and no different from the animals who injected Miguna with toxic substances and made him stateless. Miguna is a Kenyan citizen by birth regardless of what other citizenship he has acquired. Only animals reason like you. You make me want to puke. Miguna will definitely be allowed into Kenya in his own terms. He will sue the government of Kenya and win. He will also sue Emirates airline for transporting him without his consent and without any papers. What was done to Miguna is barbaric and should not be supported by anyone even thos who did not enter into a classroom let alone those who claim to have received an education. What is the use of an education if you still act and reason like an animal.
Because a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
I’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
I’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
Airport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Airport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
It was not contested so nobody found the need to make itAirport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.The issue is that the despots want to issue Miguna a tourist visa. Why?
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Problem is this argument has not impressed any the judges involved thus far. Has it even been thought worthy of being made in court?
It was not contested so nobody found the need to make itAirport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Problem is this argument has not impressed any the judges involved thus far. Has it even been thought worthy of being made in court?
It was not contested so nobody found the need to make itAirport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Problem is this argument has not impressed any the judges involved thus far. Has it even been thought worthy of being made in court?
:wtf:
If Miguna committed a crime inside the plane or in the so called "border" area, he would have been arrested, and taken to jail in town with or without a passport. These are silly arguments. I refused to apply for a visa in 2012 before the thugs got to power. I was photographed, issued an emergency traveling document and told to go and get my passport at Nyayo house. Asylees enter western countries all the time with fake passports or throw away their passports then request asylum and are admitted all over the world everyday. MM is a Kenyan citizen with an ID and court order. C'mon people, stop defending the indefensible just for political reasons. People know injustice when they see it. Even a rabid ouru supporter knows MM is a Kenyan citizen and whats happening to him is barbaric and is NOT sustainable.It was not contested so nobody found the need to make itAirport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Problem is this argument has not impressed any the judges involved thus far. Has it even been thought worthy of being made in court?
:wtf:
It was not contested so nobody found the need to make itAirport is a ‘border point’. He was still outside the court’s jurisdictionI’d love to see the part of court ruling that obviated application of citizenship. People like Miguna are guaranteed citizenship but they must apply.He refused to apply for citizenship claiming that he didn’t have to. He underestimated Uhuru’s vindictivenessBecause a tourist does not have the rights of a citizen. A tourist can be deported for the flimsiest reason like engaging in politics and does not have right to own property or even get employment without authorization. It would have been stupid for Miguna to accept to enter as a tourist. They think everybody is a moron.
The issue was already being canvassed before the courts. It is under consideration by the courts, which have issued several orders. The government's actions are basically extra-legal at this point. With respect to who is in the wrong on this issue, there is no question the government is.
There is none. But he was in the country when it was happening. The legal position is what the courts have so far ruled. That they don't recognize his expulsion. That he be given back his Kenyan documents(passport specifically) and be brought before the courts.
Problem is this argument has not impressed any the judges involved thus far. Has it even been thought worthy of being made in court?
:wtf:
I don't see how these arguments matter when the very question that Miguna is not a citizen has not been settled and in fact the actions based on the notion that he is not have been voided by the court. As it stands, Miguna's status is the same as before his initial arrest and deportation until the court rules that he is not a citizen.
Exactly. The government illegally deported him and destroyed his valid Kenyan passport despite the court order for him to appear in court. Why did they deport him and destroy his passport in the first place? The court ordered the government to return him to his original state before the illegal deportation and the government has arrogantly refused. Now we are being told that Miguna has to produce his Canadian passport to re-enter the country as if he left on his own accord and was trying to re-enter the country without proper documentation. Only idiots are confused as to who is wrong here.I don't see how these arguments matter when the very question that Miguna is not a citizen has not been settled and in fact the actions based on the notion that he is not have been voided by the court. As it stands, Miguna's status is the same as before his initial arrest and deportation until the court rules that he is not a citizen.
The only illegality with the deportation was that it was executed while there was a court order for Miguna to be presented in court.
Immigrstion did their best to present Miguna to court but he refused to surrender his passport or apply for a tourist visa. What exactly did they expect Immigration to do?Exactly. The government illegally deported him and destroyed his valid Kenyan passport despite the court order for him to appear in court. Why did they deport him and destroy his passport in the first place? The court ordered the government to return him to his original state before the illegal deportation and the government has arrogantly refused. Now we are being told that Miguna has to produce his Canadian passport to re-enter the country as if he left on his own accord and was trying to re-enter the country without proper documentation. Only idiots are confused as to who is wrong here.I don't see how these arguments matter when the very question that Miguna is not a citizen has not been settled and in fact the actions based on the notion that he is not have been voided by the court. As it stands, Miguna's status is the same as before his initial arrest and deportation until the court rules that he is not a citizen.
You continue to make that silly excuse for the government. Miguna had a valid passport before he was illegally exiled from the country. The government administratively took it from him and mutilated it purporting that it was acquired illegally. The court reversed that administrative action and ordered them to reinstate it. Miguna therefore did not need a visa to enter the country. He is a citizen, why should he enter with a visa. Is that so difficult for you to understand?.And the Itumbisms that are presented as legal arguments would be hilarious if not tragic. Miguna still doesn’t know what they injected him with. It could easily be something from a siphyllis research lab.
This appeared on Standard:
A flurry of jokes in mainstream and social media on the ill-treatment of Miguna Miguna lifts the lid on the extent of how in Carl Ratner’s words, Kenyans as victims of oppression, have become complicit in their own oppression.
Thousands of Kenyans and sadly, some opinion leaders, hold the view that Miguna’s tribulations are self-inflicted.
That he made his bed of thorns and so lie on it he must. It worries more when respected people like Senior Counsel Ahmednasir Abdullahi tweets thus: “Miguna just wants publicity and useless drama.”
Following Abdullahi’s cue, Dennis Itumbi who carries the title; Senior Director of Innovation, Digital and Diaspora Communication in the Office of the President, tweeted: “Government has offered a courtesy visa to Miguna. A privilege only extended to visiting Government officials.” Kimilili MP Didimus Baraza said: “The government should declare Miguna persona non-grata in all airports manned by Kenya Airports Authority because the drama was unacceptable.”
The saddest part is how psychologically oppressed Kenyans on social media reacted. In one instance, there is an edited video with a soundtrack of Daudi Kabaka’s patriotic song, Harambee Harambee, plucked from the Kanu era, showing Miguna, supposedly enjoying twist-like dancing style with security agents.
At face value, it looks funny.
A closer reading on Psychology of Oppression, however, reveals a depressing state of mind of most Kenyans.
Deriving gratification from Miguna’s suffering is a sickening evidence of an oppressed people. In social studies, Ratner posits that Psychology of Oppression consists among other things, “the morals that accept the oppressive social system as normal and even as ideal, taking pleasure in it, defending it, and rejecting alternatives to it.”
Regaling in the video points to a distorted and corrosive culture developed as a result of years of exploitative social structure, which according to Richard Della Fave, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at North Carolina State University, is rooted in political and economic institutions. Fave says: “That distortion, (believing it is Miguna’s mistake), appears normal and makes it extremely difficult for people to see their situation as it really is.” Again, in Ratner’s extensive research, he makes shocking revelations that the people do not always know they are oppressed, since oppression stunts their rational capabilities.
Elliot Cohen in ‘Two Concepts of Oppression’ goes further to suggest that this culture (of indifference and inability to discern oppression) may be more dangerous and all-pervasive threat than terrorism. To understand how damaging years of oppression has had on Kenyans, one needs to ask the question; how did Miguna find himself in the situation he is in? This is where it all goes wrong because oppression has stunted peoples’ rational and probing abilities.
Miguna was arrested for administering “an illegal oath” on opposition leader Raila Odinga. After dragging him around police stations, the government’s only option of subverting justice was to spirit him out of the country on charges of possessing an “illegal passport.” Whether or not Miguna had an illegal passport (what the oppressing agents drum up) is not the point for the matter was already in Court.
Those poking fun at Miguna fail to heed Martin Niemöller’s chilling warning that ‘first they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out……. Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.’
When oppression is institutionalised, it makes domination easier by breaking the spirit of the dominated and by rendering them incapable of understanding the nature of those agencies responsible for their subjugation.
This allows those who benefit from the established order of things to maintain their ascendancy with more appearance of legitimacy. And when Rarieda MP Otiende Amollo says he feels helpless and angry just know that the oppressor is done with the Socialists, Trade Unionists and is now coming for you.
- The writer is Sports Editor at The Standard. rtoskin@standardmedia.
The only illegality with the deportation was that it was executed while there was a court order for Miguna to be presented in court.
Immigrstion did their best to present Miguna to court but he refused to surrender his passport or apply for a tourist visa. What exactly did they expect Immigration to do?Exactly. The government illegally deported him and destroyed his valid Kenyan passport despite the court order for him to appear in court. Why did they deport him and destroy his passport in the first place? The court ordered the government to return him to his original state before the illegal deportation and the government has arrogantly refused. Now we are being told that Miguna has to produce his Canadian passport to re-enter the country as if he left on his own accord and was trying to re-enter the country without proper documentation. Only idiots are confused as to who is wrong here.I don't see how these arguments matter when the very question that Miguna is not a citizen has not been settled and in fact the actions based on the notion that he is not have been voided by the court. As it stands, Miguna's status is the same as before his initial arrest and deportation until the court rules that he is not a citizen.
You continue to make that silly excuse for the government. Miguna had a valid passport before he was illegally exiled from the country. The government administratively took it from him and mutilated it purporting that it was acquired illegally. The court reversed that administrative action and ordered them to reinstate it. Miguna therefore did not need a visa to enter the country. He is a citizen, why should he enter with a visa. Is that so difficult for you to understand?.
This appeared on Standard:
A flurry of jokes in mainstream and social media on the ill-treatment of Miguna Miguna lifts the lid on the extent of how in Carl Ratner’s words, Kenyans as victims of oppression, have become complicit in their own oppression.
Thousands of Kenyans and sadly, some opinion leaders, hold the view that Miguna’s tribulations are self-inflicted.
That he made his bed of thorns and so lie on it he must. It worries more when respected people like Senior Counsel Ahmednasir Abdullahi tweets thus: “Miguna just wants publicity and useless drama.”
Following Abdullahi’s cue, Dennis Itumbi who carries the title; Senior Director of Innovation, Digital and Diaspora Communication in the Office of the President, tweeted: “Government has offered a courtesy visa to Miguna. A privilege only extended to visiting Government officials.” Kimilili MP Didimus Baraza said: “The government should declare Miguna persona non-grata in all airports manned by Kenya Airports Authority because the drama was unacceptable.”
The saddest part is how psychologically oppressed Kenyans on social media reacted. In one instance, there is an edited video with a soundtrack of Daudi Kabaka’s patriotic song, Harambee Harambee, plucked from the Kanu era, showing Miguna, supposedly enjoying twist-like dancing style with security agents.
At face value, it looks funny.
A closer reading on Psychology of Oppression, however, reveals a depressing state of mind of most Kenyans.
Deriving gratification from Miguna’s suffering is a sickening evidence of an oppressed people. In social studies, Ratner posits that Psychology of Oppression consists among other things, “the morals that accept the oppressive social system as normal and even as ideal, taking pleasure in it, defending it, and rejecting alternatives to it.”
Regaling in the video points to a distorted and corrosive culture developed as a result of years of exploitative social structure, which according to Richard Della Fave, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at North Carolina State University, is rooted in political and economic institutions. Fave says: “That distortion, (believing it is Miguna’s mistake), appears normal and makes it extremely difficult for people to see their situation as it really is.” Again, in Ratner’s extensive research, he makes shocking revelations that the people do not always know they are oppressed, since oppression stunts their rational capabilities.
Elliot Cohen in ‘Two Concepts of Oppression’ goes further to suggest that this culture (of indifference and inability to discern oppression) may be more dangerous and all-pervasive threat than terrorism. To understand how damaging years of oppression has had on Kenyans, one needs to ask the question; how did Miguna find himself in the situation he is in? This is where it all goes wrong because oppression has stunted peoples’ rational and probing abilities.
Miguna was arrested for administering “an illegal oath” on opposition leader Raila Odinga. After dragging him around police stations, the government’s only option of subverting justice was to spirit him out of the country on charges of possessing an “illegal passport.” Whether or not Miguna had an illegal passport (what the oppressing agents drum up) is not the point for the matter was already in Court.
Those poking fun at Miguna fail to heed Martin Niemöller’s chilling warning that ‘first they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out……. Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.’
When oppression is institutionalised, it makes domination easier by breaking the spirit of the dominated and by rendering them incapable of understanding the nature of those agencies responsible for their subjugation.
This allows those who benefit from the established order of things to maintain their ascendancy with more appearance of legitimacy. And when Rarieda MP Otiende Amollo says he feels helpless and angry just know that the oppressor is done with the Socialists, Trade Unionists and is now coming for you.
- The writer is Sports Editor at The Standard. rtoskin@standardmedia.
The only illegality with the deportation was that it was executed while there was a court order for Miguna to be presented in court.
Immigrstion did their best to present Miguna to court but he refused to surrender his passport or apply for a tourist visa. What exactly did they expect Immigration to do?Exactly. The government illegally deported him and destroyed his valid Kenyan passport despite the court order for him to appear in court. Why did they deport him and destroy his passport in the first place? The court ordered the government to return him to his original state before the illegal deportation and the government has arrogantly refused. Now we are being told that Miguna has to produce his Canadian passport to re-enter the country as if he left on his own accord and was trying to re-enter the country without proper documentation. Only idiots are confused as to who is wrong here.I don't see how these arguments matter when the very question that Miguna is not a citizen has not been settled and in fact the actions based on the notion that he is not have been voided by the court. As it stands, Miguna's status is the same as before his initial arrest and deportation until the court rules that he is not a citizen.
Babu fans are a conflicted bunch, unsure how much they should support Miguna beyond Baba,and especially after Miguna disrespected him
Hasira za:lolz: :lolz:mkizimkisii
It's intriguing how JubiNASA has completely turned Miguna Miguna into a hero. His appeal is across the political divide. Some of his ardent supporters are GEMA. I suspect Vooke is one of them. Miguna Miguna is the unofficial opposition leader now.Doubt it. Vooke has been making strange arguments in defense/support of his deportation.
It's intriguing how JubiNASA has completely turned Miguna Miguna into a hero. His appeal is across the political divide. Some of his ardent supporters are GEMA. I suspect Vooke is one of them. Miguna Miguna is the unofficial opposition leader now.
?s=21On Jan. 30, 2018, @RailaOdinga SWORE that he "will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution as by law established." He has not DEFENDED my right of CITIZENSHIP and to the Kenyan Passport. He has not PROTECTED me against ILLEGAL DETENTION, TORTURE, SEDATION and FORCED EXILE. pic.twitter.com/gKwoUG9IsF
— Dr. Miguna Miguna (@MigunaMiguna) May 19, 2018
?s=21On Jan. 30, 2018, @RailaOdinga SWORE that he "will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution as by law established." He has not DEFENDED my right of CITIZENSHIP and to the Kenyan Passport. He has not PROTECTED me against ILLEGAL DETENTION, TORTURE, SEDATION and FORCED EXILE. pic.twitter.com/gKwoUG9IsF
— Dr. Miguna Miguna (@MigunaMiguna) May 19, 2018
"me, me, me" .
The earth does not revolve around his ass. Bure kabisa