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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 06:48:09 PM

Title: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 06:48:09 PM
Luhyas knew this was their chance; They had the best candidate; Now Azimio has thrown them under the bus like it has done to Kambas; Mps are feeling the heat...

They know Luhya voters will protest - and vote Kenya Kwanza;

This was only major thing Luhyas could get from Azimio - being supported to win Nairobi.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-20-luhya-leaders-want-igathe-wanyonyi-to-battle-for-nairobi-ticket/
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 08:48:16 PM
Luhyas knew this was their chance; They had the best candidate; Now Azimio has thrown them under the bus like it has done to Kambas; Mps are feeling the heat...

They know Luhya voters will protest - and vote Kenya Kwanza;

This was only major thing Luhyas could get from Azimio - being supported to win Nairobi.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-20-luhya-leaders-want-igathe-wanyonyi-to-battle-for-nairobi-ticket/
Halleluiyah, when I see this, I think about Bungoma and Transnzioa. Ruto and Kenya Kwanza will not get punished for not picking Mdvd, but Assimio will take a beating for shortchanging Wanyonyi-the Bukusu prince. Now all Luhyas will embrace Sakaja in Nairobi and Kenya kwanza nationwide. That move is almost equivalent to 350K votes shift. Still, when big boys including DP, weta, and Mudavadi take political propaganda to the brink, it can quickly amount to 800K extra votes. Uhuru, indeed, is Azimio's kijinjio. He is singlehandedly wrecking ODM and Azimio than anyone. Only diehard Luo people in Nyanza and US can see it clearly!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 08:57:26 PM
Yes Tim is very popular.. almost a god to Nairobi Luhyas because he is opus dei who work for the people and never steal a coin.Nairobi luhya votes will evaporate to Kenya kwanza.They will see as big betrayal by Luos..cementing whole hard shake betrayal.This direct kick on luhya nation gonads.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 09:02:23 PM
Yes Tim is very popular.. almost a god to Nairobi Luhyas because he is opus dei who work for the people and never steal a coin.Nairobi luhya votes will evaporate to Kenya kwanza.They will see as big betrayal by Luos..cementing whole hard shake betrayal.This direct kick on luhya nation gonads.
ODM Tawe crusaders in Busia and Kakamega are already pouncing on it. Soon to hit Bungoma and Transnzoia. Even if resolved, the damage, especially in low information voters will be irreversible!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 09:06:21 PM
There is no resolving this because Mt Kenya mafia will not let go..Sakaja who is half luhyas but luhya by choice will harvest big.Deploy Ruto wife in western..many luhyas think she is luhya because she is from kakamega county and went to Butere girls..problem she cannot speak it.Raila is facing trouble in ukambani n luhya as mt Kenya mafia hold him by the gonads...they want dpork and Nairobi governship..or they drop the project.Two birds in the bush..one bird at hand.Jakom is pursuing the two in the bush and is about to drop the one he has..final gamble
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: sema on April 20, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
I'm confused as to why Uhuru would pick a sure loser like Igathe? And why can't wanyoni run as an independent at this point?
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 09:20:36 PM
He is locked in echo chamber with gatekeeper making sure he never get real intelligence.it's canned and sugar coated.Kinuthia mbugua is chief gatekeeper.He is no moi who did his raw intelligence gathering.Then add magician mutahi ngunyi and consultant Nancy gitau promising  Zanzibar n Pemba uganga.. telling him anything is possible..just open the purse string or write a blank cheque
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 09:23:39 PM
There is no resolving this because Mt Kenya mafia will not let go..Sakaja who is half luhyas but luhya by choice will harvest big.Deploy Ruto wife in western..many luhyas think she is luhya because she is from kakamega county and went to Butere girls..problem she cannot speak it.Raila is facing trouble in ukambani n luhya as mt Kenya mafia hold him by the gonads...they want dpork and Nairobi governship..or they drop the project.Two birds in the bush..one bird at hand.Jakom is pursuing the two in the bush and is about to drop the one he has..final gamble
Starting to believe this Jesus stuff. Ruto and God the father, and Raila and Godfathers are competing. Something powerful is really fighting for Ruto. Everything is unfolding in his favor no matter what money Uhuru and MKF are throwing at Azimio. Alice Ichung'wah and her team are working the ground in Nyeri (hometown) and lower kiambu like wildfire. Ababu, Malala, Bunyasi, Lusaka, Khalwale and Luhyas heavy hitters are combing villages in western like wildfire. Coast to coast Ruto network is taking Azimio billions to the cleaners!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 09:25:25 PM
I'm confused as to why Uhuru would pick a sure loser like Igathe? And why can't wanyoni run as an independent at this point?
Uhuru is using treasury to bribe leaders. The problem is wafuazi cannot be bribed. Wanyonyi looks like he has taken loot already!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 09:28:14 PM
Yes I have seen luhya ground game..machogu and ombati in gusii & Nyamira..kwale & Kilifi good..Mombasa shida..Ruto should transform Uda losers into well oiled machinery..Uhuru folks plan is order chiefs to campaign n deliver votes like bbi signature...nyumba kumi n pesa ya wazee n vijana mitaanai ndio they will hope force to vote their project.But tayari I think he is giving up..ameweka double chance tayari.. ultimate the system is provincial administration..Ruto has to match the 10,000 chiefs and ass chiefs by transforming primary losers to his system..kanu Y2K style..money, organization and strategy to counter chiefs and ass chiefs..headmen.He will need to beat the provincial administration..by intimidating chiefs to stay out politics
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 09:31:26 PM
I'm confused as to why Uhuru would pick a sure loser like Igathe? And why can't wanyoni run as an independent at this point?
Uhuru is using treasury to bribe leaders. The problem is wafuazi cannot be bribed. Wanyonyi looks like he has taken loot already!
it's has worked in northern Kenya...wariah at treasury is doing great.. jubilee will sweep five counties of borana and somalis..Duale no match because it's very clan and elders oriented..easy to bribe the elders
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: sema on April 20, 2022, 09:34:08 PM
Not sure why Igathe is viewed as being some sort of corporate super-star when all he appears to do is jump from one corporate job to another. He's never owned a business like James Mwangi, never run for office on his own....what is it about him?

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Wanyonyi looks like he has taken loot already!

But this is a waste of his loot  money because Igathe will lose
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 09:36:02 PM
He comes from muranga and is poodle of muranga tycoons who think they should run Nairobi as they own stuff in Nairobi..
Kiambu tycoons are busy in kiambu to care about Nairobi slums. Igathe is Munga project
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 10:04:50 PM
Not sure why Igathe is viewed as being some sort of corporate super-star when all he appears to do is jump from one corporate job to another. He's never owned a business like James Mwangi, never run for office on his own....what is it about him?

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Wanyonyi looks like he has taken loot already!

But this is a waste of his loot  money because Igathe will lose
He is smart, loyal and malleable according to thieving sponsors. In the event he is elected, he will line contracts for the corporate crooks and Kidero will look like a saint. Nairobians has no choice but to choose Sakaja. They figured Tim has principles and cannot be easily corrupted. Igathe will steal billions for them! It is all about money at the end of the day!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 10:12:07 PM
Yes Tim is deeply religious like central governor Patrick njoroge who is brother of bishop Muheria..those are opus dei who give up their entire salary . catholic monastery type..who have no need of earthly stuff..you cannot bribe or manipulate such.. intelligence and morality..one of Catholic orders I truly admire.Opus dei Tim will run Nairobi without cartels
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 20, 2022, 10:16:08 PM
Every party is dealing with demands.  It's totally expected in the winner takes scorched earth environment that is Kenyan politics.  It's not like they will find any satisfactory offers on the other side.  Messi, their biggest Luhya catch has settled for what, dog-catcher :D?
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 10:20:19 PM
Tim is god to Nairobi Luhyas but in Homeland his brother Weta is well known Madvd has limited influence.Odm n Azimios need to be aware that 350k luhyas votes in Nairobi..a rural county...is at stake...he may be in a wheelchair but he is very popular...infact last election luhyas wanted him as governor.The guy is not your usual political player .he is legit
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: sema on April 20, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
You just said Wanyonyi stepped down cause Uhuru bribed him and he's already banked the loot and now you are telling us how moral he is? huh? which is it? Everyone in Kenya can be bribed. I don't buy this religious argument one bit, not in Kenya.

The only reason they'd pick a sure loser like Igathe is if they believe they can rig otherwise, they really cannot be that out of touch with the realities on the ground. I'm beginning to believe that there is a rigging plan in place.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 10:23:36 PM
Tim is opus dei..can't be bribed..has no need for extra money beyond his basic needs.He will give out any extra money.
Opus dei are religious..they deeply intelligently religious.. have absolutely no need of money.. prefer to live in boarding.All their salary they donate.They run Strathmore and St Mary's
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: sema on April 20, 2022, 10:27:26 PM
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[Tm is opus dei..can't be bribed..has no need for extra money beyond his basic needs
Opus dei are religious..they deeply intelligently religious.. have absolutely no need of money.. prefer to live in boarding

RV hitter and you finally disagree on something.  He says Tim took the loot already.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 10:32:17 PM
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[Tm is opus dei..can't be bribed..has no need for extra money beyond his basic needs
Opus dei are religious..they deeply intelligently religious.. have absolutely no need of money.. prefer to live in boarding

RV hitter and you finally disagree on something.  He says Tim took the loot already.
Rvhh doesn't know Tim.When I say luhyas of Nairobi takes him as God I mean it.He is like cbk governor.You can't bribe them..they will queue eat beans and go live in an hostel..but they do excellent job.I was in class with one...best programmer now he is priest .we call him John Paul. those guys are remarkable people.They don't preach or tell you about god...but their professional excellences and simplicity will impact you...will donate their salary.Opus dei run run...intelligence and dedication
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 20, 2022, 10:44:46 PM
You just said Wanyonyi stepped down cause Uhuru bribed him and he's already banked the loot and now you are telling us how moral he is? huh? which is it? Everyone in Kenya can be bribed. I don't buy this religious argument one bit, not in Kenya.

The only reason they'd pick a sure loser like Igathe is if they believe they can rig otherwise, they really cannot be that out of touch with the realities on the ground. I'm beginning to believe that there is a rigging plan in place.
Every politician has a price tag; if one is very holly, the payout limit can be cranked up by billions. Another form of bribery is can be in contracts and shares of govt. If Ruto had 100 Billion shillings, even Uhuru can buckle and leave Azimio in the dust.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 20, 2022, 11:05:42 PM
Not a valid %s URLRvhh they are catholic, Muslim and Buddhist who dedicate their live to nuns n monks..Osama was billionaire but it never mattered..he chooses to leave money and fight for Islam.These people are not normal..they are indoctrinated..opus dei is a cult.. like jihadist blowing himself up.Uhuru has problem because Tim will not be moved by money
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Pragmatic on April 21, 2022, 12:58:29 AM
You always want to talk and comment on everything Mr. Know-it-all... You have no clue what you are talking about here!!! Clearly Tim ain’t Opus Dei adherent a’la CBK Governor as you depict here. There are things about Tim that I won’t speak about here.

Like I said way back Tim won’t give in to Igathe (nor previously Ngatia) nonsense that Jubilee or the StateHouse cabal is trying to force. Neither of them is worthy a mention alongside Tim, so it isn’t even a question of asking Tim to give way... they can’t win no vote and which is why either of them was being proposed to be paired with Tim (as running mate) so that they can ride on Tim/ODM Numbers. Jubilee has no numbers in Nairobi, the previous Jubilee votes are with UDA save for very few.

Really, I have no “idea” why RAO is entertaining any of this nonsense.

Indeed the silent word to Tim is that go Independent wakutanie kwa “tepe”. Igathe will pull in last or not vie at all, while Ngatia will be 3rd with Tim Governor and Sakaja second.

Like I said before, the end result is really disenfranchising Luhya and specifically Bukusu votes all the way to Bungoma. I really can’t get my mind around why ODM (and Jubilee) can’t see what damage this will cause!!

Meantime, Igathe is an “overrated” rookie... never really run a business but rather been cloistered in environments where everything is well established and so really never have had to dig in and really sweat out real corporate smarts for us to rate him the way he seems to attract admiration and excitement from people I would say are equally very incompetent attracted to his long CV of hopping around jobs.... never really making any impact before jumping onto the next job. Ngatia on the other hand has absolutely no business being touted as a possible Nairobi Governor... only slightly better than Sonko, a thief like Kidero but poorly educated. Has no comprehension nor basic knowledge of how to run such a huge bureaucracy; running Nairobi ain't like running around MAfya House filling blank LPO forms!!

Tim anaenda mpaka kwa “tepe”.

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[Tm is opus dei..can't be bribed..has no need for extra money beyond his basic needs
Opus dei are religious..they deeply intelligently religious.. have absolutely no need of money.. prefer to live in boarding

RV hitter and you finally disagree on something.  He says Tim took the loot already.
Rvhh doesn't know Tim.When I say luhyas of Nairobi takes him as God I mean it.He is like cbk governor.You can't bribe them..they will queue eat beans and go live in an hostel..but they do excellent job.I was in class with one...best programmer now he is priest .we call him John Paul. those guys are remarkable people.They don't preach or tell you about god...but their professional excellences and simplicity will impact you...will donate their salary.Opus dei run run...intelligence and dedication
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 03:45:27 AM
Pragmatic you're gnashing teeth because your man is being taken to cleaners.. independent he can't beat Sakaja...he needs luo votes that Raila is selling to Igathe in exchange of a doomed pork run.My know it all is not something I am embarrassed about.I heard Tim is opus dei..not all of them stay in lodges..most are married and live normal life. The deal Jubilee and wiper running mate..kamanda wants senate pia.ODM you take pork...bado concession kibao.This time round you've been caged
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 05:49:36 AM
They have come up with most ridicolous line up.
Igathe - from nowhere
Kaloki - from nowhere
Kwamboka - from nowhere
Tim - given senate - likely to reject - leaving it to become fight btw kamanda and Sifuna.

Prediction - Kenya Kwanza carries the day in Nairobi - Luhyas get angry in Nairobi and western.

Look like Uhuru is working for Ruto - knowingly or unknowingly.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-21-hopes-dashed-as-uhuru-raila-shuffle-nairobi-lineup/
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Fairandbalanced on April 21, 2022, 06:42:46 AM
This guy is speaking the truth.. ?s=21&t=8VwrHD_0vdNUQwr7IO064A
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 21, 2022, 07:02:32 AM
This guy is speaking the truth.. ?s=21&t=8VwrHD_0vdNUQwr7IO064A
Raila is Raila because of a massive number of Luhyas over the last 20 years  You remove Luhyas from Raila and you have an empty shell. Raila falsely thinks he has Uhuru and Kikuyu numbers and can now dispose of them like trash. Sakaja is in and Kakamega, Bungoma, and Transnzioa is fully Kenya Kwanza! Uhuru is working for Ruto without knowing! Mlevi is a gift that keeps giving!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: audacityofhope on April 21, 2022, 07:40:03 AM
Tim is opus dei..can't be bribed..has no need for extra money beyond his basic needs.He will give out any extra money.
Opus dei are religious..they deeply intelligently religious.. have absolutely no need of money.. prefer to live in boarding.All their salary they donate.They run Strathmore and St Mary's
Seriously, must you post on everything, even on that which you do not know? Where do you think Tim is getting his campaign cash from? Tim has serious investments. For example Bungona County's most prestigious hotel where a buffet plate goes for 3K per person, bottle of wine is 8K - Hunters Lodge it is called:


Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 08:07:25 AM
Sio mbaya - at least he is removing the shame of Kikuyus if not that somali woman (Mama hersi) running Kanduyi and Bungoma while Bukusu ni kuoa bibi wengi kunywa busaa bunglu bangla. The Tim that I have heard is not corruptible.

So this hunter lodge - is the one on your way to Kibabi university?

Seriously, must you post on everything, even on that which you do not know? Where do you think Tim is getting his campaign cash from? Tim has serious investments. For example Bungona County's most prestigious hotel where a buffet plate goes for 3K per person, bottle of wine is 8K - Hunters Lodge it is called:



Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 08:11:07 AM
Yes for a long time there was kavirondo alliance in major urban areas...against GEMA...now that they've betrayed Tim...that alliance is broken in Nairobi...ODM winning seats in Nairobi become hard. Normally Luos+Luhya merge and share seats. The Luos in Westland vote for Tim..Luhyas in Kibra vote for Okoth..all you need is win ODM ticket. The Luo obviously are more cohesive and aggressive...it's almost a master-slave relationship.

Once that alliance is broken - it's over for ODM - because Luos on their own are just 15 percent of Nairobi and Mombasa. Kikuyus or GEMA will overrun them in Nairobi.

Now majority of GEMA are in UDA - therefore expect UDA to whipe the floor with ODM in Nairobi

Raila is Raila because of a massive number of Luhyas over the last 20 years  You remove Luhyas from Raila and you have an empty shell. Raila falsely thinks he has Uhuru and Kikuyu numbers and can now dispose of them like trash. Sakaja is in and Kakamega, Bungoma, and Transnzioa is fully Kenya Kwanza! Uhuru is working for Ruto without knowing! Mlevi is a gift that keeps giving!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nowayhaha on April 21, 2022, 08:15:27 AM
Uhuru failed in 2013 to install Jimnah Mbaru as TNA candidate failed in 2017 with Peter Keneth in Jubilee , what makes him think he will manage with Igathe ?
This guy has gone bonkers
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Githunguri on April 21, 2022, 08:20:04 AM
Tim wanyonyi is wetangula brother.Wetangula ia Tim wanyonyi brother abd they are luhya bukusu subtribe.Wetangula who is ruto aupporter is using hia brother tim to destroy raila from within in return he will get paid handsomely by Ruto.

The warning shot to Raila is simple.You choose tim wanyonyi or the presidency.The choice is yours.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 08:22:24 AM
He is set to pick Mt kenya governors - seem he simply learnt nothing from his 2002 debacle - pombe sio uji. The last thing people will elect is a PROJECT. Ruto's UDA will sweep the board....Uhuru the mlevi is his chief campaigner without knowing.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/uhuru-to-pick-candidates-in-mt-kenya-governor-contests-3789182?fbclid=IwAR1Yau71yHF5KNKV6_RgDBm2qf6MZaG4MDetTOHNBEB7uyGSxdV1HMASDiM
Uhuru failed in 2013 to install Jimnah Mbaru as TNA candidate failed in 2017 with Peter Keneth in Jubilee , what makes him think he will manage with Igathe ?
This guy has gone bonkers
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: audacityofhope on April 21, 2022, 08:41:26 AM
The route to Kibabii University is different. To get to Kibabii University you must go all the way to Kanduyi then take a right.

The straight forward route to get to Hunters Paradise Cottages or simply 'Hunters Lodge' is to arrive at Sikata Trading Centre which sits on the last Junction before you get to Kanduyi when you are coming from Eldoret. Ask the locals there to direct you which turn to take. Hunter's Lodge has a huge sign post in that area. Less than a Km from there.

And this is where we need to thank Gov Wangamati. He has been instrumental in advising locals to stop selling their urban land, only to move to river bed locations. He has told Bukusu to stop surrendering prime business locations to other communities. My hotel will be the 3rd prestigious hotel in Bgm. The 2nd already opened and is aptly called "Siritamu" - just past Kanduyi on your way to Malaba border.

Sio mbaya - at least he is removing the shame of Kikuyus if not that somali woman (Mama hersi) running Kanduyi and Bungoma while Bukusu ni kuoa bibi wengi kunywa busaa bunglu bangla. The Tim that I have heard is not corruptible.

So this hunter lodge - is the one on your way to Kibabi university?

Seriously, must you post on everything, even on that which you do not know? Where do you think Tim is getting his campaign cash from? Tim has serious investments. For example Bungona County's most prestigious hotel where a buffet plate goes for 3K per person, bottle of wine is 8K - Hunters Lodge it is called:



Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 08:52:24 AM
I see - Sikata on the way to that little mountain - forget the name that sounded kalenjin (chebukwa) - or through Lusaka road that links Sikata with Bungoma.

Wangamati Tourist hotel was biggest..though I dont think he owned it...I think it's either gov owned or teachers owned...like Kakamega golf resort.

Anyway congratulations...Bungoma is going to become a big city - if the trend continues. My cousin lives hapo Bungoma...

The route to Kibabii University is different. To get to Kibabii University you must go all the way to Kanduyi then take a right.

The straight forward route to get to Hunters Paradise Cottages or simply 'Hunters Lodge' is to arrive at Sikata Trading Centre which sits on the last Junction before you get to Kanduyi when you are coming from Eldoret. Ask the locals there to direct you which turn to take. Hunter's Lodge has a huge sign post in that area. Less than a Km from there.

And this is where we need to thank Wangamati. He has been instrumental in advising locals to stop selling their urban land, only to move to river bed locations. He has told Bukusu to stop surrendering prime business locations to other communities. My hotel will be the 3rd prestigious hotel in Bgm. The 2nd already opened and is aptly called "Siritamu" - just past Kanduyi on your way to Malaba border.

Sio mbaya - at least he is removing the shame of Kikuyus if not that somali woman (Mama hersi) running Kanduyi and Bungoma while Bukusu ni kuoa bibi wengi kunywa busaa bunglu bangla. The Tim that I have heard is not corruptible.

So this hunter lodge - is the one on your way to Kibabi university?

Seriously, must you post on everything, even on that which you do not know? Where do you think Tim is getting his campaign cash from? Tim has serious investments. For example Bungona County's most prestigious hotel where a buffet plate goes for 3K per person, bottle of wine is 8K - Hunters Lodge it is called:



Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: audacityofhope on April 21, 2022, 09:21:12 AM
Tourist hotel was a facade - still is. There is a Minister during Moi's time who said, what prevented him visiting Bungoma was that he didn't know where to sleep. Ouch! And at that time we did have Bungoma Tourist hotel. Truth is this hotel was mismanaged. It was actually built on the back of Teachers Cooperative. I recently passed there by the roadside and I could see it badly needs a new coat of paint. And yes, it is associated with Wangamati even today. I have no tears for this hotel if it went under. As a town, Bungoma has moved on.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: audacityofhope on April 21, 2022, 10:26:09 AM
Once again, I am amazed at your knowledge of Bungoma. Your knowledge of geography that is, not Political!
Even Chebukwa you know. Wow!

I see - Sikata on the way to that little mountain - forget the name that sounded kalenjin (chebukwa) - or through Lusaka road that links Sikata with Bungoma.

Wangamati Tourist hotel was biggest..though I dont think he owned it...I think it's either gov owned or teachers owned...like Kakamega golf resort.

Anyway congratulations...Bungoma is going to become a big city - if the trend continues. My cousin lives hapo Bungoma...

Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Kadudu on April 21, 2022, 10:44:56 AM
Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
Once again, I am amazed at your knowledge of Bungoma. Your knowledge of geography that is, not Political!
Even Chebukwa you know. Wow!

I see - Sikata on the way to that little mountain - forget the name that sounded kalenjin (chebukwa) - or through Lusaka road that links Sikata with Bungoma.

Wangamati Tourist hotel was biggest..though I dont think he owned it...I think it's either gov owned or teachers owned...like Kakamega golf resort.

Anyway congratulations...Bungoma is going to become a big city - if the trend continues. My cousin lives hapo Bungoma...

I have done truck business..I know most towns from malindi to drc congo border...know Uganda inside out..bit of Rwanda.Only part I don't know in Kenya is Meru isiolo nyeri n nanyuki
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 11:00:48 AM
Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.
In Kenya kwanza wako sawa..they may gett dpork and many key position..it's 35 percent..uhuru has spoilt it by dividing gema..then becoming greedy as usual.if they had stuck to the deal it would have been 50-50 but now Ruto had to bring luhyas to take 30 percent.In Azimios they are killing it by chasing kambas out and remaining luhyas out... while not bringing anything substantial..just a promise they will fund and rig jakom in
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: gout on April 21, 2022, 02:22:27 PM
I thought Bungoma was dying after PEV. And pockets of crazy gang killings.
Kanduyi has all the night life. Likes of Kanduyi are a very interesting urbanization lot. They are built from by hasoras from scratch. Throw in like of Matayos, Chaka, Kenol, Githurai, Kitengelas, and such.  Very robust hasora economies. Downside is no public infrastructure as most hasoras are running from corrupt urban planners.

I see - Sikata on the way to that little mountain - forget the name that sounded kalenjin (chebukwa) - or through Lusaka road that links Sikata with Bungoma.

Wangamati Tourist hotel was biggest..though I dont think he owned it...I think it's either gov owned or teachers owned...like Kakamega golf resort.

Anyway congratulations...Bungoma is going to become a big city - if the trend continues. My cousin lives hapo Bungoma...

The route to Kibabii University is different. To get to Kibabii University you must go all the way to Kanduyi then take a right.

The straight forward route to get to Hunters Paradise Cottages or simply 'Hunters Lodge' is to arrive at Sikata Trading Centre which sits on the last Junction before you get to Kanduyi when you are coming from Eldoret. Ask the locals there to direct you which turn to take. Hunter's Lodge has a huge sign post in that area. Less than a Km from there.

And this is where we need to thank Wangamati. He has been instrumental in advising locals to stop selling their urban land, only to move to river bed locations. He has told Bukusu to stop surrendering prime business locations to other communities. My hotel will be the 3rd prestigious hotel in Bgm. The 2nd already opened and is aptly called "Siritamu" - just past Kanduyi on your way to Malaba border.

Sio mbaya - at least he is removing the shame of Kikuyus if not that somali woman (Mama hersi) running Kanduyi and Bungoma while Bukusu ni kuoa bibi wengi kunywa busaa bunglu bangla. The Tim that I have heard is not corruptible.

So this hunter lodge - is the one on your way to Kibabi university?

Seriously, must you post on everything, even on that which you do not know? Where do you think Tim is getting his campaign cash from? Tim has serious investments. For example Bungona County's most prestigious hotel where a buffet plate goes for 3K per person, bottle of wine is 8K - Hunters Lodge it is called:



Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 03:18:38 PM
Nope. Bungoma benefited from PEV. All kikuyus in western kenya run to Bungoma because Bukusu were firmly in PNU. Kikuyus are maybe 20 percent of Kanduyi. They are huge and well established.
Other towns died - like Kakamega and Mumias - Busia - but Bungoma thrived.

I thought Bungoma was dying after PEV. And pockets of crazy gang killings.
Kanduyi has all the night life. Likes of Kanduyi are a very interesting urbanization lot. They are built from by hasoras from scratch. Throw in like of Matayos, Chaka, Kenol, Githurai, Kitengelas, and such.  Very robust hasora economies. Downside is no public infrastructure as most hasoras are running from corrupt urban planners.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Kadudu on April 21, 2022, 04:11:35 PM
Did I miss something?

Nope. Bungoma benefited from PEV. All kikuyus in western kenya run to Bungoma because Bukusu were firmly in PNU. Kikuyus are maybe 20 percent of Kanduyi. They are huge and well established.
Other towns died - like Kakamega and Mumias - Busia :o - but Bungoma thrived.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 21, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
Once again, I am amazed at your knowledge of Bungoma. Your knowledge of geography that is, not Political!
Even Chebukwa you know. Wow!

I see - Sikata on the way to that little mountain - forget the name that sounded kalenjin (chebukwa) - or through Lusaka road that links Sikata with Bungoma.

Wangamati Tourist hotel was biggest..though I dont think he owned it...I think it's either gov owned or teachers owned...like Kakamega golf resort.

Anyway congratulations...Bungoma is going to become a big city - if the trend continues. My cousin lives hapo Bungoma...

Learned something. My grandfather was called Chebukwa, so that chebukwa area must have been inhabited by Kalenjins unless Luhyas as well have chebukwa in their names
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 04:33:33 PM
Indeed you did. You missed afternoon English lesson at Dr Kraft primary school in Maringo or was it Bahati. The lesson on figurative speech - stylistic devices-hyperbole.
Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 04:35:46 PM
The whole of Bungoma is mix-mash of Kalenjin and Luhya names - I'd say north of Malaba highway - you'll see many kalenjin names - south you'll see Bukusu names.

Bungoma itself is kalenjin name - of dead subtribe - that was aboroginal called Bungomek.

Bukusu and Kalenjin are inter-mixed - the Bukusu simply refused to submit to Kalenjins the way Tirikis and Tachonis did - because of their large numbers. They did copy circuscmion though - as it was minimum for interraction - and then gave kalenjin their daughters - in exchange of cattle.

The relaitonship btw Sabaot/Sebei and Bukusu/Bagisu of Uganda calls all the way to Mbale town in Uganda...

Learned something. My grandfather was called Chebukwa, so that chebukwa area must have been inhabited by Kalenjins unless Luhyas as well have chebukwa in their names
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 21, 2022, 04:41:57 PM
The whole of Bungoma is mix-mash of Kalenjin and Luhya names - I'd say north of Malaba highway - you'll see many kalenjin names - south you'll see Bukusu names.

Bungoma itself is kalenjin name - of dead subtribe - that was aboroginal called Bungomek.

Bukusu and Kalenjin are inter-mixed - the Bukusu simply refused to submit to Kalenjins the way Tirikis and Tachonis did - because of their large numbers. They did copy circuscmion though - as it was minimum for interraction - and then gave kalenjin their daughters - in exchange of cattle.

The relaitonship btw Sabaot/Sebei and Bukusu/Bagisu of Uganda calls all the way to Mbale town in Uganda...

Learned something. My grandfather was called Chebukwa, so that chebukwa area must have been inhabited by Kalenjins unless Luhyas as well have chebukwa in their names
Are terikek and tiriki the same? Terikek speak Kalenjin and I think tirik speak their language
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Kadudu on April 21, 2022, 04:54:01 PM
It was Bahati Uhuru my fren. Dr Kraft is somewhere else. It is like mistaking Eldoret with Kericho. :D :D

Indeed you did. You missed afternoon English lesson at Dr Kraft primary school in Maringo or was it Bahati. The lesson on figurative speech - stylistic devices-hyperbole.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Kadudu on April 21, 2022, 04:57:44 PM
Not sure what you mean with submitted. The Tiriki did interact with their neighbours, the Nandi and not sure where Kalejin comes here. All people who intereact with others take up some things from the others and keep some of their own. Am sure the Nandis too did take up some of the Tiriki culture. You always seem to assume the Nandi had the upper hand in everything.

The whole of Bungoma is mix-mash of Kalenjin and Luhya names - I'd say north of Malaba highway - you'll see many kalenjin names - south you'll see Bukusu names.

Bungoma itself is kalenjin name - of dead subtribe - that was aboroginal called Bungomek.

Bukusu and Kalenjin are inter-mixed - the Bukusu simply refused to submit to Kalenjins the way Tirikis and Tachonis did - because of their large numbers. They did copy circuscmion though - as it was minimum for interraction - and then gave kalenjin their daughters - in exchange of cattle.

The relaitonship btw Sabaot/Sebei and Bukusu/Bagisu of Uganda calls all the way to Mbale town in Uganda...
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 06:22:43 PM
Nope. I meant Maragoli and Bukusu were a force to reckon with - in terms of self-defence- and refuse to make alliance or be friends with Nandis. Tirikis, Tachonis and Malava people - Kabras - allied with Nandis - in such a way it was becoming assimilated. Bukusu were similarly assimilating Sabaots. So it was two way traffic. The weak tribes allied with strong tribes. Luo tribe took lots of small bantu tribes - latest being Abasuba.

I'd say Tiriki are hybrid - half nandi-half luhyas - same way Sabaots were nearly consumed by Bukusu - if not for intervention of Nandis :) :)

Of course us kipsigis were one people with nandis - more of cousins - with solid alliance - and had some respectful association with maasai - and did intermary with Gusii alot - there was little if any Luo association because they refused to cut. We swallowed Ogiek or Dorobos on the forest.

There were various form of tribal alliance or solidarity pre-colonial period.

Not sure what you mean with submitted. The Tiriki did interact with their neighbours, the Nandi and not sure where Kalejin comes here. All people who intereact with others take up some things from the others and keep some of their own. Am sure the Nandis too did take up some of the Tiriki culture. You always seem to assume the Nandi had the upper hand in everything.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 21, 2022, 07:57:05 PM
People west of mt kenya are very intermixed,how do you even trace family lines,I can trace my family line to circa 1800 all pure Merus
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 21, 2022, 08:23:41 PM
People west of mt kenya are very intermixed,how do you even trace family lines,I can trace my family line to circa 1800 all pure Merus
1800 is just the other day; we have traced ours with near precision spending tones of money and tracing all the way from 1500. We were Nandis/Kipsigis from 1790 after the death of last abagusii relatives. Our great great great great grandfather by the name chibweri and his two brothers kisiara and muinoni were abagusii that was in late 1600. I bet if you dig deeper, your family could be another tribe in the 1700. We have also learned that our origin is Musoma Tanganyika in the 1500!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 21, 2022, 08:56:38 PM
I doubt bantus keep their genealogical history long though naming systems helps.. kalenjin, Luos and Somalis keep their family trees going centuries.I don't
think bantus have strong clan structure...most of history is kept at clan .A clan has root male ancestors that all clan member descent from..and most can trace it..some all the way to Sudan.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 22, 2022, 08:45:57 AM
It is now Igathe-Wanyonyi after backlash. Wanyonyi was bribed but the secretive payout was not enough to calm people so he was offered a deputy position. 50% Bukusu probably go with him. Sakaja need to get a street Gema or street Kamba deputy!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Pundit on April 22, 2022, 08:59:57 AM
Precisely - you read my mind. Sakaja need Moses Kuria. That is the guy to undo the Kikuyu propaganda that is behind Igathe push. Kambas without deputy will never vote Igathe. They will donate all their votes to Sakaja. So Sakaja got himself 17% pump.

This problem Azimio faces - they appease Luhyas - they disappoint Kambas - they appease kikuyus - the rest cry.

This why tribal politics is very very complicated - and Ruto has tried not make it the central plank of his politics. Sakaja is running on his own merits - because he is popular - not because he is half luhya half kalenjin.

But I think it's good move for Azimio to lose governorship but try to keep the Luo-Luhya alliance in Nairobi politics - for without that - they will lose EVERYTHING :) :) Whatever they do they must not undo the reliable kavirondo alliance...because GEMA/Kenya Kwanza will overrun them in city politics - and win nearly all MCAS seats.

So Igathe is least of their problem - the dead on arrival project going nowhere.


It is now Igathe-Wanyonyi after backlash. Wanyonyi was bribed but the secretive payout was not enough to calm people so he was offered a deputy position. 50% Bukusu probably go with him. Sakaja need to get a street Gema or street Kamba deputy!
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nefertiti on April 22, 2022, 12:33:57 PM
Every party is dealing with demands.  It's totally expected in the winner takes scorched earth environment that is Kenyan politics.  It's not like they will find any satisfactory offers on the other side.  Messi, their biggest Luhya catch has settled for what, dog-catcher :D?

If you ask KK what Mdvd is getting from Ruto... at least Kalonzo is demanding DPORK. Mdvd is basically getting Yattani job - Rotich job - Kimunya job - a job he had at 30 during Moi. He lost his Sabatia seat while running for Uhuru VP - then lost Luhya to Raila when running for PORK. How come Sakaja is running under UDA and not ANC? Kweli Mdvd is a bimbo. It is a no-brainer how Luhya see the KK unwritten "deal" - if it can even be called that.

Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nefertiti on April 22, 2022, 12:44:43 PM
They have come up with most ridicolous line up.
Igathe - from nowhere
Kaloki - from nowhere
Kwamboka - from nowhere
Tim - given senate - likely to reject - leaving it to become fight btw kamanda and Sifuna.

Prediction - Kenya Kwanza carries the day in Nairobi - Luhyas get angry in Nairobi and western.

Look like Uhuru is working for Ruto - knowingly or unknowingly.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-21-hopes-dashed-as-uhuru-raila-shuffle-nairobi-lineup/

Tim is DG - happily - and will take his diehard backers with him. Of course you cannot now say Luhya "god" will suddenly be forsaken by his worshippers - so long he calmly tell Luhya he will be co-governor... they will go with him.

IMAGE
Sakaja is Luhya-Kalenjin pointee version of Igathe. After Sonko hustler experiment this corporate image is not bad - except Igathe has rock-star brand almost akin to his mentor Dr James Mwangi. On this image score he beats Sakaja.

TRIBE
Gema are already split KK 2-1 Azimio - but Murang'a folk will go with Igathe. Split 50-50
Luhya will split Sakaja 2-1 Igathe - roughly - because Tim is co-governor.
Kamba will go bulk Azimio as no camp is offering them anything in Nairobi. If I was Raila I would give them Mombasa by stepping down Nassir.
Gusii, Somali - bulk Azimio as we can see in NEP and Nyanza

Pundit leta fujo na fitina
 
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nefertiti on April 22, 2022, 12:50:18 PM
Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.

Pundit drinks his own voodoo... and dances his own beat with Noway & RVHH as the supporting cast. Their moves are midas touches and the opponents are downright fools.


the UDA delusion
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Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nowayhaha on April 22, 2022, 12:57:18 PM

Robina Can I declare that you vanish from Nipate come Aug 09 Night when its apparent Ruto has won elections.

Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.

Pundit drinks his own voodoo... and dances his own beat with Noway & RVHH as the supporting cast. Their moves are midas touches and the opponents are downright fools.


the UDA delusion
(https://thenicl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cat-Sees-Lion-mirror-e1450310267514.jpg)
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nefertiti on April 22, 2022, 01:48:28 PM
Well - anything is possible in politics. I disappear now and then - last 1 year I have been busy. I think you were a different moniker sometimes back - and reinvented yourself to mask your misses. You are a half-hearted Ruto supporter at best - but a real Raila hater - so one would expect you to disappear if Raila wins... But  the reality of savages and PEV will probably have you rethink your views.

Start with the reality that Kikuyus are split - Luhyas are split - Kambas, Gusii, Somali are bulk Azimio. Stop the delusion that Luhyas or Kambas are so mad at Raila or Uhuru... the latter is just a fervent prayer in UDA circles.


Robina Can I declare that you vanish from Nipate come Aug 09 Night when its apparent Ruto has won elections.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 22, 2022, 09:51:05 PM
Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.

Pundit drinks his own voodoo... and dances his own beat with Noway & RVHH as the supporting cast. Their moves are midas touches and the opponents are downright fools.


the UDA delusion
(https://thenicl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cat-Sees-Lion-mirror-e1450310267514.jpg)
Where did you get that image? My friend uses it occasionally, and permanently on Whatsapp profile. Do you live in the Carolinas by chance?
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nowayhaha on April 22, 2022, 10:10:31 PM

Ive been in blogosphere for 20 years. I have been in Mashada then Jukwaa then Nipate and now on this Nipate.
In 2002 I supported Uhuru we lost badly . We were on the same side with Ruto , In 2003 I swiched to Kibaki , We had predicted once NARC takes power Raila would turn against Kibaki , we were right it took one week. In 2007 I supported Kibaki we won , In 2010 I supported Ruto and we lost come 2013 and 2017 I stuck with UhuRuto and we won. I support Ruto but after what Uhuru did to us in 2018 with Handshake and hearing Raila supporters talking of another Handshake after they lose in Aug 09 elections  Im not as enthustiatic as I was say in 2017. But that said Until Raila is retired it Aluta continua. I will be here until the place is shut down which I forsee for lots of Raila supporters will do a Siberia self exile.
If Ruto makes a mistake of Handshaking Raila , I will be here forging a way forward , there will be another coalition against Rutos and Railas handshake and I will be supporting the other coalition. If Ruto stays to his course as they did in UhuRutos first term then I will continue defending him. I know for you all your projects and projections have failed from PK to BBI to now Raila. Pole politics os like that . Salimia your BFF P.K. tell him its the guy we met on S7 Airlines during 2018 Worldcup.

Well - anything is possible in politics. I disappear now and then - last 1 year I have been busy. I think you were a different moniker sometimes back - and reinvented yourself to mask your misses. You are a half-hearted Ruto supporter at best - but a real Raila hater - so one would expect you to disappear if Raila wins... But  the reality of savages and PEV will probably have you rethink your views.

Start with the reality that Kikuyus are split - Luhyas are split - Kambas, Gusii, Somali are bulk Azimio. Stop the delusion that Luhyas or Kambas are so mad at Raila or Uhuru... the latter is just a fervent prayer in UDA circles.


Robina Can I declare that you vanish from Nipate come Aug 09 Night when its apparent Ruto has won elections.
Title: Re: Nairobi Luhyas protest Tim being forced out governor
Post by: Nowayhaha on April 22, 2022, 10:12:37 PM

Write to your so called "girlfriend" ask her if she is ever in Nipate. Would be interesting to find out RVHH and Ribena are "close friends"....
Pundit speaks too much for Luhyas.

Wanyonyi will go nowhere without ODM backing and he knows it. Igathe will come second to Sakaja. Bad move from Uhuru, but Kikuyus need something big in the Kenyan political order. This time they will go home dry.

Pundit drinks his own voodoo... and dances his own beat with Noway & RVHH as the supporting cast. Their moves are midas touches and the opponents are downright fools.


the UDA delusion
(https://thenicl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cat-Sees-Lion-mirror-e1450310267514.jpg)
Where did you get that image? My friend uses it occasionally, and permanently on Whatsapp profile. Do you live in the Carolinas by chance?