Author Topic: Politics or culture of the cut (Read 1552 times)

RV Pundit · « **on:** March 20, 2022, 09:36:54 PM »

I will document the history behind the cut and it's spread in East Africa. Worldwide the cut was middle Eastern culture Which spread thanks to Islam and Judaism..to small extent..less due to Christianity because the gentiles of Europe adopted Christianity without Jewish culture

RV Pundit · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:38:49 PM »

In Kenya it's linked to events 2000 yrs ago..when initially Islam spread in Africa before being displaced by Christianity..then another two hundred years Islam overrun the region except Ethiopia

RV Pundit · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:40:50 PM »

In Kenya outside the Muslim world most who cut definitely copied kalenjin.. almost everything.. Kikuyu ageset like maina or nyongi- mwangi or nyige . copied by other Bantus..juma is almost universal.. kalenjin it's chumo..moi ageset. some oromos .. kalenjin themselves claim they copied aboriginal..that they did first circumscion in my Elgon

RV Pundit · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:42:57 PM »

If aboriginal practiced it would be prevalent in South Africa.... kalenjin therefore associated or forced anything that was nasty like circumscion or forging weapons to ogiek.. Somalis...they were held like slaves

RV Pundit · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:44:04 PM »

The real genesis is initially spread of Islam before being supplanted by Christianity in Egypt and Sudan about 2000 yrs ago

RV Pundit · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:47:12 PM »

Circumscion for long time was the bare minimum before any association could be initiated.At least kalenjin made to new coming Bantus that they would be untouchable until they cut.kalenjin and oromos having arrived in Kenya first..2000 yrs ago to find Hunters and gatherer's

RV Pundit · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:49:09 PM »

Kenya bantus soon cut and inherited all stereotypes about the uncut.The Luos being recent arrival and notable warriors refused.Luos have been in Kenya for like 500yrs..arriving from Uganda.The same for turkana they could hold their ground with their foreskin intact... beating many tribes and make nonsense of the cut

RV Pundit · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:58:06 PM »

Kalenjin understand more than any tribe that cut was never natural..they know they start it Mt Elgon under direction of dorobo..then there is Mt in londiani..Mt kipsigis or Mt phyallus.. generally kalenjin will not associated with uncut but will not berate them..they understand it's culture thing

RV Pundit · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2022, 09:59:31 PM »

For kalenjin cut we are friends..don't cut we don't associate.. neither friend.. neither enemy..we just don't flow

RV Pundit · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:04:30 PM »

Unlike say bukusu kalenjin will never force you cut..cut is supposed to be your own volition unless you make the mistake of seeing the secret stuff.. otherwise kalenjin understand it's your volition .You will be asked severally if you're ready. ..you are given so many chances to refuse

RV Pundit · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:08:22 PM »

For kalenjin the cut is a momentous event life that is sombre....it's like marriage..it's time you commit to being a warrior..to be a man..to behave like a man..to forever be stoic..it's big deal..it huge deal

RV Pundit · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:10:51 PM »

After the cut the jovial kalenjin boy is replaced by warrior..who doesn't show his teeth..who can kill you without caring..boy became man..the man is stoic who display zero emotions..he has taken through pain to eliminate any emotions...he subjected to torture and eventually it big ceremony

RV Pundit · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:15:01 PM »

The celebration of manhood takes days.Your family is proud that your aced it.The respect you get afterwards.From then you are a warrior only summon rarely.You basically do nothing.. you're man..but if something big..you demonstrate your warriorhood by dealing with situation decively.If it's to beat someone you leave them half dead.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:17:34 PM »

By then youve acquired second family..the guys who went through the torture they become your lifelong partner..they are like your brother's..botum or bakule can even fuck you wife.These are guys who went through 24 hours torture in MTC and formed life long partnership and comradeship

RV Pundit · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:20:00 PM »

The torture of MTC begin day one and last a month..you get beaten, harrassed, degraded and name it..you don't sleep.
..they turn a boy into man...many ceremonies lasting many hours..all painful.. anybody allowed to beat you senseless

RV Pundit · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:22:51 PM »

Unlike Kikuyus kalenjin dont oath..unless it's very very rare.. kalenjin believe an oath is deadly.You take first and probably the last oath in circumscion..it's an oath never to reveal what you went thro..it's oaths that reverberate..it's only oath you will take it..you take it and chant four times.. women threes times

RV Pundit · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:23:57 PM »

The oath is simple..it says I will die if I ever reveal the tumdo...what happens there stay there..the ugly the nasty

RV Pundit · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:29:31 PM »

Post MTC..I remember I spent times with my new friends..we were inseparable..we were a gang..we had cried ...we had suffered together..we had been debased called woman amid pain..we were one..we would kill anybody who challenged manhood

RV Pundit · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:32:11 PM »

Kalenjin MTC turns boys into warriors by allowing any man to come and torture you.. some mlevi can give ridiculous assignment like protect this flie...this my cow..you cannot protect fly or tiny insect's...if he comes back and doesn't find he beat you senseless..this to kalenjin is losing a cow

RV Pundit · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2022, 10:34:55 PM »

You penis multilated your choice name is to call bloody woman..they abuse you..they denigrate...you live in forest..you have tasks but they feed you well

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Author Topic: Politics or culture of the cut (Read 1552 times)