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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 03:23:13 PM

Title: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 03:23:13 PM
It appears no one in Kenya Kwanza can sell anything - Ruto has to do it himself

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Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 04:17:27 PM
Well you beat me to posting that it appears Ruto is on his own, he is walking a very thin line on this, simply because even Gachagua  knows on the ground its fire... generally mlima will never board, on the ground no one will sell it why
Mlima we work hard to build our houses now telling us to go Communist wont work.
The more Ruto clings on this the more he is getting alienated, thibgs are really turning out bad for him.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 04:25:26 PM
Well Ichungwa is only one selling it but his popularity is going south, I dont think he can make any elected position if election were called today....he is soo unpopular Ndindi Nyoro wiser morr quiet,Kindiki brilliant has indulged into his job 100per cent.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 04:28:44 PM
How many Milima people are salaried employees? Mps will pass this. Only problem is the court. This where Ruto need to be on top of the game.

Housing Fund is key pillar.

Milima people will benefit from supplying stones, quary and name it.

Well you beat me to posting that it appears Ruto is on his own, he is walking a very thin line on this, simply because even Gachagua  knows on the ground its fire... generally mlima will never board, on the ground no one will sell it why
Mlima we work hard to build our houses now telling us to go Communist wont work.
The more Ruto clings on this the more he is getting alienated, thibgs are really turning out bad for him.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 04:29:53 PM
Election is 5yrs away.
Sijui kelele ni ya nini saa hii.

Yes petrol 8% will be painful for everyone. That one I can ask Ruto to remove.

Housing Levy hiyo ni lazima

Well Ichungwa is only one selling it but his popularity is going south, I dont think he can make any elected position if election were called today....he is soo unpopular Ndindi Nyoro wiser morr quiet,Kindiki brilliant has indulged into his job 100per cent.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 04:39:17 PM
I agree 8% petrol levy is a mistake

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Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 04:40:29 PM
How many Milima people are salaried employees? Mps will pass this. Only problem is the court. This where Ruto need to be on top of the game.

Housing Fund is key pillar.

Milima people will benefit from supplying stones, quary and name it.

Well you beat me to posting that it appears Ruto is on his own, he is walking a very thin line on this, simply because even Gachagua  knows on the ground its fire... generally mlima will never board, on the ground no one will sell it why
Mlima we work hard to build our houses now telling us to go Communist wont work.
The more Ruto clings on this the more he is getting alienated, thibgs are really turning out bad for him.
Am just saying whats in the ground, Housing fund pillar I don't know to whom but si kwa mlima.
You see most mlima people live in their own house atleast back in the mountain those that live in Nairobi dont seee any need to be built a house. People already have home loans.
Maybe kalenjins  :) need housing not us...thats the simple truth and thats why Gachagua and co won't dare market that as it would be death on their career :)
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 04:48:06 PM
Rubbish - you are full in kibera, kiandutu, kawangware and name - all these slums with Jaluo.

Kalenjin of course we want Ruto to build decent cheap houses.

So our people dont go to slums.

Housing was in Manifesto. Join Azimio if you dont want it.

Only concession is fuel tax.

Am just saying whats in the ground, Housing fund pillar I don't know to whom but si kwa mlima.
You see most mlima people live in their own house atleast back in the mountain those that live in Nairobi dont seee any need to be built a house. People already have home loans.
Maybe kalenjins  :) need housing not us...thats the simple truth and thats why Gachagua and co won't dare market that as it would be death on their career :)
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Kadudu on May 31, 2023, 04:55:23 PM
Just inform me which people in Kenya get houses for free? Even those thatvhed huts. If none, then this sentence is irrelevant.

Well you beat me to posting that it appears Ruto is on his own, he is walking a very thin line on this, simply because even Gachagua  knows on the ground its fire... generally mlima will never board, on the ground no one will sell it why
Mlima we work hard to build our houses now telling us to go Communist wont work.
The more Ruto clings on this the more he is getting alienated, thibgs are really turning out bad for him.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 31, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
The reality is for Ruto to manage to pass these bills he needs to handshake Raila.
That will be a political suicide .
Another reality is Kenya needs money to offset it debts and survive . Rutos approach has been wrong from the word go.
Rutos Achilles heel is thinking he can do everything by himself . Thats why he put some funny people as SCs so that he could control them.
If he doesnt change tact he will not know what hit him come 2027 . We are left with 3 years now.
Uhuru handshaked Riala in 2018 and thought 2022 was far away . Where is he now
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 05:41:02 PM
The reality is for Ruto to manage to pass these bills he needs to handshake Raila.
That will be a political suicide .
Another reality is Kenya needs money to offset it debts and survive . Rutos approach has been wrong from the word go.
Rutos Achilles heel is thinking he can do everything by himself . Thats why he put some funny people as SCs so that he could control them.
If he doesnt change tact he will not know what hit him come 2027 . We are left with 3 years now.
Uhuru handshaked Riala in 2018 and thought 2022 was far away . Where is he now
Well said 100% spot on hii ni ukweli mtupu even Miguna told him.
Rutonis deeply struggling at this rate he might stall by next year :).
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Kadudu on May 31, 2023, 05:42:26 PM
I rarely side with you, but here am with youn 100%. Even after all these years in govt he did not realise running a country requires teamwork. One good person is not enough. You need people with brains to run govt and not your village mates.

The reality is for Ruto to manage to pass these bills he needs to handshake Raila.
That will be a political suicide .
Another reality is Kenya needs money to offset it debts and survive . Rutos approach has been wrong from the word go.
Rutos Achilles heel is thinking he can do everything by himself . Thats why he put some funny people as SCs so that he could control them.
If he doesnt change tact he will not know what hit him come 2027 . We are left with 3 years now.
Uhuru handshaked Riala in 2018 and thought 2022 was far away . Where is he now
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 05:42:53 PM
Just inform me which people in Kenya get houses for free? Even those thatvhed huts. If none, then this sentence is irrelevant.

Well you beat me to posting that it appears Ruto is on his own, he is walking a very thin line on this, simply because even Gachagua  knows on the ground its fire... generally mlima will never board, on the ground no one will sell it why
Mlima we work hard to build our houses now telling us to go Communist wont work.
The more Ruto clings on this the more he is getting alienated, thibgs are really turning out bad for him.
Kadudu maybe in western you want houses built for you :)
I dont think so everyone have come across political divide is deeply opposed,Ruto is almost stepping into a landmine.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Kadudu on May 31, 2023, 05:51:13 PM
Did you see what happened to Bonny Khalwale when he tried selling the Finanace Bill at a funeral gathering? Nobody is swallowing that myth of free houses.

Kadudu maybe in western you want houses built for you :)
I dont think so everyone have come across political divide is deeply opposed,Ruto is almost stepping into a landmine.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 05:55:41 PM
Did you see what happened to Bonny Khalwale when he tried selling the Finanace Bill at a funeral gathering? Nobody is swallowing that myth of free houses.

Kadudu maybe in western you want houses built for you :)
I dont think so everyone have come across political divide is deeply opposed,Ruto is almost stepping into a landmine.
:D :D saw that bullfighter is smart he has changed tune since then ,he now is calling for voluntary registration na bado what I can tell you mlima is a volcano waiting to explode, if you see all loud mouth mlima politicians are quiet  mambo mbaya sana.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 06:02:15 PM
Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 06:18:57 PM
Serikali ni ya Ruto sio ya mama yako.

Housing Plan iyo ni red line.

Afadhali mutoke Kenya Kwanza muende opposition

Remember my man Sakaja is chilling and waiting for GEMA to make mistake.

Waluhya PAP.

Endelea na vitisho ya watato - utapaki na opposition had ukufe.

Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 06:19:49 PM
3million salaried people cannot threaten Ruto.

Fuel yes - hiyo Ruto should remove 8 percent - it affect everyone.

Housing LEVY LAZIMA

We cannot become a country of SLUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 06:21:02 PM
Ruto is political chess master. Forget until 2032.

The reality is for Ruto to manage to pass these bills he needs to handshake Raila.
That will be a political suicide .
Another reality is Kenya needs money to offset it debts and survive . Rutos approach has been wrong from the word go.
Rutos Achilles heel is thinking he can do everything by himself . Thats why he put some funny people as SCs so that he could control them.
If he doesnt change tact he will not know what hit him come 2027 . We are left with 3 years now.
Uhuru handshaked Riala in 2018 and thought 2022 was far away . Where is he now
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on May 31, 2023, 06:21:22 PM
Serikali ni ya Ruto sio ya mama yako.

Housing Plan iyo ni red line.

Afadhali mutoke Kenya Kwanza muende opposition

Remember my man Sakaja is chilling and waiting for GEMA to make mistake.

Waluhya PAP.

Endelea na vitisho ya watato - utapaki na opposition had ukufe.

Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
:D :D that's what a drunkard would say...anyways lets wait to see   
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2023, 06:24:15 PM
Wait and see Kalenjin rule until 2042. Ruto -> Sakaja. Make that mistake. Uone vile Luhya will drop thinking Sakaja Kosgei ni yao. 2027 nayo Ruto cannot lose.

You job now is to support Gov.

You dont support finance bill - Murkomen will never build a road kwenu.

:D :D that's what a drunkard would say...anyways lets wait to see   
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: audacityofhope on May 31, 2023, 08:04:36 PM
Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
You will first have to agree that we are no longer capitalist but socialist before coming up with such thinking. 101 study of government.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on June 01, 2023, 07:59:56 AM
Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
You will first have to agree that we are no longer capitalist but socialist before coming up with such thinking. 101 study of government.
Precisely and that would scare IMF world bank and other financial partners. Ruto would have to go Rogue alone :)
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 01, 2023, 08:13:14 AM
Pundit we are very bad people selfish and heartless,yes we don't want to build houses for anyone else. Sisi ni wabaya.
You will first have to agree that we are no longer capitalist but socialist before coming up with such thinking. 101 study of government.
Precisely and that would scare IMF world bank and other financial partners. Ruto would have to go Rogue alone :)
Gov is by default socialist...private sector should remain capitalist.Gov is 30 percent of gdp..private sector  70 percent. Gov job is to look after the poor left behind by brutal Capitalism of private sector. GOV TAXES THE PRIVATE SECTOR N GIVE THE HUSTLERS THAT MONEY. That way the hustlers don't come to steal n kill you.
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on June 01, 2023, 12:41:09 PM
Pundit you will scream and even shit bricks but that will be only your noise, sooner than later you will realize you are a nobody in the equation of things and hence your opinion doesn't count.
Now go binge drink.
Moron :)
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 01, 2023, 01:31:14 PM
Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.

Today is a work day for me.

So ubwa enda kunywa muratina lakini this gov will be run by Ruto for 10yrs.



Pundit you will scream and even shit bricks but that will be only your noise, sooner than later you will realize you are a nobody in the equation of things and hence your opinion doesn't count.
Now go binge drink.
Moron :)
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 01, 2023, 01:53:04 PM
Ruto breaking it down

https://twitter.com/WilliamsRuto
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: audacityofhope on June 01, 2023, 08:11:15 PM
Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 01, 2023, 08:27:45 PM
Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

That account got blocked..now  I am just getting restarted on twitter.com
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: patel on June 01, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
Twitter has refused to recognize Mr. High IQ. Lol. It's all in your head. Garbage in garbage out.
Back to topic..now how do you win elections then govern through propaganda? Ruto has to govern, governing its a give and take. No matter how well meaning somethings might be if majority declines you have to shelf those ones to a later date. Kibaki did not use propaganda to govern and things drastically changed. Right now the country is in survival mode...people are trying to stay alive and hold what they got. That should be the priority, cost of living.

Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 02, 2023, 09:29:21 AM
Twitter has refused to recognize Mr. High IQ. Lol. It's all in your head. Garbage in garbage out.
Back to topic..now how do you win elections then govern through propaganda? Ruto has to govern, governing its a give and take. No matter how well meaning somethings might be if majority declines you have to shelf those ones to a later date. Kibaki did not use propaganda to govern and things drastically changed. Right now the country is in survival mode...people are trying to stay alive and hold what they got. That should be the priority, cost of living.

Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

When we're you president to teach Ruto..Ruto run jubilee 1.0 n won re election. He assisted moi n raila win.Now is best time for painful reform...as election is 5rs away...as we approach 2027...things will flow. Sasa ni mlima..Punda lazima viboko..2027 mteremko
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 02, 2023, 05:00:55 PM
Raila the one you supported has never won election it was proven in 2022….

Twitter has refused to recognize Mr. High IQ. Lol. It's all in your head. Garbage in garbage out.
Back to topic..now how do you win elections then govern through propaganda? Ruto has to govern, governing its a give and take. No matter how well meaning somethings might be if majority declines you have to shelf those ones to a later date. Kibaki did not use propaganda to govern and things drastically changed. Right now the country is in survival mode...people are trying to stay alive and hold what they got. That should be the priority, cost of living.

Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

When we're you president to teach Ruto..Ruto run jubilee 1.0 n won re election. He assisted moi n raila win.Now is best time for painful reform...as election is 5rs away...as we approach 2027...things will flow. Sasa ni mlima..Punda lazima viboko..2027 mteremko
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: patel on June 03, 2023, 04:32:52 AM
Based on your logic ...when we're you a president fool? I guess only uhuru can offer advice..see how moronic you sound?
Ruto does not need propaganda he need to govern. He need to appoint competent people to assist him not morons like Itumbi.
Twitter has refused to recognize Mr. High IQ. Lol. It's all in your head. Garbage in garbage out.
Back to topic..now how do you win elections then govern through propaganda? Ruto has to govern, governing its a give and take. No matter how well meaning somethings might be if majority declines you have to shelf those ones to a later date. Kibaki did not use propaganda to govern and things drastically changed. Right now the country is in survival mode...people are trying to stay alive and hold what they got. That should be the priority, cost of living.

Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

When we're you president to teach Ruto..Ruto run jubilee 1.0 n won re election. He assisted moi n raila win.Now is best time for painful reform...as election is 5rs away...as we approach 2027...things will flow. Sasa ni mlima..Punda lazima viboko..2027 mteremko
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: audacityofhope on June 03, 2023, 10:36:20 AM
Don't drink and drive they say. We could as well add, don't post on a public blog while still under the influence. Given that what we do here is to give our views from an armchair perspective on matters of the day, some logic put forth here is truly moronic or could be that, the person posting has had his or her grey matter momentarily impaired.
Based on your logic ...when we're you a president fool? I guess only uhuru can offer advice..see how moronic you sound?
Ruto does not need propaganda he need to govern. He need to appoint competent people to assist him not morons like Itumbi.
Twitter has refused to recognize Mr. High IQ. Lol. It's all in your head. Garbage in garbage out.
Back to topic..now how do you win elections then govern through propaganda? Ruto has to govern, governing its a give and take. No matter how well meaning somethings might be if majority declines you have to shelf those ones to a later date. Kibaki did not use propaganda to govern and things drastically changed. Right now the country is in survival mode...people are trying to stay alive and hold what they got. That should be the priority, cost of living.

Every time you guys say I am a nobody; I know my influence is great.....
How do you measure that on Twitter, Mr. My-influence-is-great? How many followers?
Even after declaring yourself as "Kenya's Online Political Pundit of more than 30yrs." :D, Here are the reactions to all posts you laboured on: ZERO-likes, ZERO-retweets, ZERO-replies ...  Nobody even so it fit to reply to MOAS ...

Small wonder, @rvpundit last posted on Twitter in April 2022, more than a full-year ago, the poor sob gave up retreated to Veritas blog; there at least there are the likes of Njuri Ncheke that pity the man and tolerate his rants.

I bet he will delete this post!

When we're you president to teach Ruto..Ruto run jubilee 1.0 n won re election. He assisted moi n raila win.Now is best time for painful reform...as election is 5rs away...as we approach 2027...things will flow. Sasa ni mlima..Punda lazima viboko..2027 mteremko
Title: Re: Ruto need to up the propaganda ante - Finance bill demonized unfairly
Post by: RV Pundit on June 03, 2023, 01:31:10 PM
LOW IQ morons. Ruto has done very very very well. Hard decisions need to be taken early. Political consideration and popularity is secondary now.

Ruto ended subsidies, has cut development budget, will tax and aggressively collect taxes - all these are painful decisions - but this best time.

Same with appointment of friends -  this best time.

Same with dealing with Kenyattas and dynasties - this best time.

Mapema ndio best.

Huko 2026 - Ruto will start doing popular things - saa hii ni JEMBA KUBWA CHINI -  next year - Jembe kidogo - 2027 tunafuna kura.