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Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« on: January 02, 2020, 07:36:02 PM »
Kandara MP has aptly captured the democrazy and economic moment in history.
It will be an interesting year - will the cat be belled?
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2020, 09:47:38 PM »
Alice Wahome need to keep calm and finish the journey with uhuru quietly.  Tulisema tuu hapa hapa uhuru was going to finish the country, the driver is drunk.... wakakataa....haya Watu wakule ujeuri yao.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2020, 09:49:32 PM »
biggest existential threat...bla bla bla...

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2020, 12:47:09 AM »
Alice is referred as cucu by uhuru supporters. She won't make it back to parliament ..she is done

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2020, 05:02:22 AM »
Uhuru is officially a lame duck.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2020, 07:28:52 AM »
Uhuru's only arsenal against Ruto is rigging Baba in and or denying Ruto a chance to steal the elections
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2020, 08:26:51 AM »
How about he stick to agreement, support Ruto and retire as he a respected head of state & receive state pension for the rest of his life

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2020, 11:53:10 AM »
Uhuru has to call off Kibicho nonsense of threatening calls to elected leaders, else he will eat a very humble pie too late. Alice sentiments shows they are tired with his bullshit and ready to go out for the screwball...

The current crop of Central leaders had no chance given they are very few re-elected leaders in kikuyuland but they now have a lifeline.

History has it that Jaramogis, Matibas, Rubias were with Kenyatta and Moi before they turned critics, not sure why it escapes many that this will happen to Uhuru, Raila and even Ruto - politics is about interests more so selfish interests. What has Uhuru got to offer Alice?? Kandara guys are the ones chasing Maina Kamanda like burukenge.
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 08:07:20 PM »
Kibicho has clinically defanged Ruto brigade without firing a single shot. Kibicho has proved himself. Everytime he shows tanga tanga team right jab he swings a left hook, landing the jab decisively.

 Alice Wahome, too old, too fatigued and too crooked she is done...in 2013 she had no problem voting for a criminal indicted for crimes against humanity, she trashed chapter 6 of the constitution but now she wants uhuru to respect katiba all based on hypothetical? Years in parliament, what progressive Bills or motion has she pushed to improve kenya livelihoods? Never raised alarm on debt or rampant looting..priss seems the only thing crooked wahome cares about is Alice wahome. I think her interest are threatened. Bure kabisa
Uhuru has to call off Kibicho nonsense of threatening calls to elected leaders, else he will eat a very humble pie too late. Alice sentiments shows they are tired with his bullshit and ready to go out for the screwball...

The current crop of Central leaders had no chance given they are very few re-elected leaders in kikuyuland but they now have a lifeline.

History has it that Jaramogis, Matibas, Rubias were with Kenyatta and Moi before they turned critics, not sure why it escapes many that this will happen to Uhuru, Raila and even Ruto - politics is about interests more so selfish interests. What has Uhuru got to offer Alice?? Kandara guys are the ones chasing Maina Kamanda like burukenge.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 08:21:33 PM »
@Patel, relax, she was reading what she had been given to read... we all know her character, you do not need to lay it out here like we don't know
Kibicho has clinically defanged Ruto brigade without firing a single shot. Kibicho has proved himself. Everytime he shows tanga tanga team right jab he swings a left hook, landing the jab decisively.

 Alice Wahome, too old, too fatigued and too crooked she is done...in 2013 she had no problem voting for a criminal indicted for crimes against humanity, she trashed chapter 6 of the constitution but now she wants uhuru to respect katiba all based on hypothetical? Years in parliament, what progressive Bills or motion has she pushed to improve kenya livelihoods? Never raised alarm on debt or rampant looting..priss seems the only thing crooked wahome cares about is Alice wahome. I think her interest are threatened. Bure kabisa
Uhuru has to call off Kibicho nonsense of threatening calls to elected leaders, else he will eat a very humble pie too late. Alice sentiments shows they are tired with his bullshit and ready to go out for the screwball...

The current crop of Central leaders had no chance given they are very few re-elected leaders in kikuyuland but they now have a lifeline.

History has it that Jaramogis, Matibas, Rubias were with Kenyatta and Moi before they turned critics, not sure why it escapes many that this will happen to Uhuru, Raila and even Ruto - politics is about interests more so selfish interests. What has Uhuru got to offer Alice?? Kandara guys are the ones chasing Maina Kamanda like burukenge.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 08:22:10 PM »
biggest existential threat...bla bla bla...
The way she fumbled & struggled reading that word "existential" exposed her.... a pointer the author of the document ... was not entirely her...

But it is all good. Daggers drawn. Seems this battle has to be won way in advance of 2022 and so 2020 will be a year of drama in Kenya

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 08:34:44 PM »
Uhuru's only arsenal against Ruto is rigging Baba in and or denying Ruto a chance to steal the elections
Mkwasi I am with you on this one ... He will counter all the dirty tricks they sanction when stealing elections ...
He did a dry run on Kibra by-elections. Ruto had put friendly Kale cops at the voting stations. The list was changed come election day..
That is the reason Ouru had a field day taunting Mashamba about those being the most peaceful elections .....

BTW now they admit they even exported their rigging ways to DRC. Death is a great equalizer, they were singing how they pulled up that adventure. “For what profits a man if he gains the whole world but loses his own soul?”

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru--Raila-helped-Tshisekedi-win-presidential-poll/1056-5404494-1sfmn3/index.html

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2020, 02:05:35 AM »
Murkomen wrote that stuff no doubt but crooked Wahome is a trained lawyer so she owns it now. Kibicho need to finish her.
biggest existential threat...bla bla bla...
The way she fumbled & struggled reading that word "existential" exposed her.... a pointer the author of the document ... was not entirely her...

But it is all good. Daggers drawn. Seems this battle has to be won way in advance of 2022 and so 2020 will be a year of drama in Kenya

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2020, 08:07:20 AM »
If Ruto was law abiding perhaps anyone would care. He is fighting a losing battle with these minions wailing "tunaonewa" on his behalf. With Raila political cover Uhuru can wage all shenanigans - Kinoti and his Flying Squad is rumored to be new "Ngoroko" anti-stock theft unit of 70s whose job was to curtail Moi. They roundly enbarassed Moi by searching his houses and detaining him at roadblocks. Moi squeezed through but Ruto lacks the savvy to play this out. It is a redux where Matiang'i replace Mbiyu Koinange. But Uhuru is not senile Jomo so Ruto is done.

Statistically only 2 out of 11 VPs ever made it. They were both wise, patient men. Very tough luck.
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2020, 09:03:05 AM »
You are so correct Wahome is Ruto screams from the heavy punches. This is exactly the 70s with the clear distinctions that

. Jomo was senile and bed-ridden. It was Njonjo vs Koinange and Moi sneaked through the crossfire. Here we have Uhuru himself swinging the rungu.

. Moi was wise, humble, patient teddy bear. Ruto is the polar opposite fanged wolf that pulled mlolongo and declared war a whole 5 years from the finish line. Big rookie blunder.

. There was no bitter Odinga spoiling to scorn Moi. The man had zero enemies. Ruto has Raila, Uhuru and powerful forces ranged against him.

Kibicho has clinically defanged Ruto brigade without firing a single shot. Kibicho has proved himself. Everytime he shows tanga tanga team right jab he swings a left hook, landing the jab decisively.

 Alice Wahome, too old, too fatigued and too crooked she is done...in 2013 she had no problem voting for a criminal indicted for crimes against humanity, she trashed chapter 6 of the constitution but now she wants uhuru to respect katiba all based on hypothetical? Years in parliament, what progressive Bills or motion has she pushed to improve kenya livelihoods? Never raised alarm on debt or rampant looting..priss seems the only thing crooked wahome cares about is Alice wahome. I think her interest are threatened. Bure kabisa
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2020, 09:11:21 AM »
Why everyone wants Uhuru blessings for 2022
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And, on Thursday, Dr Ruto’s allies desperately reached out to him to not only help put the Jubilee Party in order but to also work closely with their man.


https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/leaders-seek-Uhuru-blessings-as-2022-poll-beckons/3126390-5405476-tctpxqz/index.html
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2020, 09:23:46 AM »
THE GOING RATES OF KANDARA ALICE WAHOME

The juice lies elsewhere.

Alice Wahome is a washed-up tramp. It does not mean washed-up tramps speak no truths about men. O they always do in those mischievous memoirs of theirs when they conspiratorially gather in matriarchal sessions, gossiping their experiences with the opposite sex, Them Patriarchs.

But the public proclamations of washed-up tramps are always suspect. Like every politicians.

Alice Wahome is wrong. Terrible diagnostics. Uhuru Kenyatta is not that important to constitute such a, ahem, 'catastrophic' eventuality. The politics of Socio-economic stagnation and debt extraction are the stuff which, no literal meaning here, usually blows up states. Kenya still has some latitude to incur more debt to pay off old debt, and limp on.

But importantly, this fear mongering is the specific horror scenario of a kind. It is based on a pessimism arising from a unilateral interpretation of reality. The disappearance of the state of Kenya, the end of the  Berlin to Lancaster affair, is not necessarily a bad thing. No, no more than the disintegration of the Soviet Union was, of Yugoslavia was; or Spain may soon be and the UK along too (with an independent Catalonia and Scotland respectively).

Disintegration, and I use this belly-churning word deliberately, is only a horrible process if a RULING CLASS is not sensible enough to choose the path of VELVET DIVORCE. We saw this go-easy path in Tchekoslovakia. You go your away I go mine, but daily we still drink at the same bar, peacefully, and crack the same old jokes, hilariously.

War is the most stupid form of divorce. You have stupid politicians, you are okay to beware!

BUT stupid politicians need not be heeded at the toughest moments.

OTHER OPTIONS THINKABLE

Were this existential threat to be realised realised  in Kenya, it would mean Luoland is freed from the dictates of the far-away capital of Nairobi and their rotten local hirelings. No longer shackled by other Kenyan tribes, the Mount Kenya group would be free to fully express the legendary Gikuyu industriousness. They would, best scenario, catch up  with the other mountainous Kingdom of Switzerland in a decade.

Turkana would have all that oil for herself. No longer beholden to pay 95% of it as tribute to the rotten and corrupt Nairobi, Turkana would be free to be a super rich OIL EMIRATE, or, should an epidemic of maimed minds strike, degenerate into an Equatorial Guinea. With a population less than the Rift Valley but oil sales above Norway, Equatorial Guinea is nevertheless poorer than the Central African republic. She needs debt restructuring. The Nguema clan prefers to have luxury-car factories in Europe producing exclusively for them, not to mention buying old satellites as a hobby. ---Nothing wrong with the hobby though. I am a man who keeps old newspaper cuttings. That is another morbid one. The problem is of course The Nguema's do their hobby with public money, wherefore such an expensive hobby becomes Czarian or Marie-Antoinette scandalous. With known results.

For pessimism, there can also be qualified optimism.

It is therefore not always a worst-case scenario if Kenya goes deceased. The people will remain, the people always remain when superstructures collapse. For Kenya, only the colonial construct will disappear.
This is nothing to fret. For normal humankind.

But a banditry whose mode is parasitic will always fear the task of real nation building. For that involves real work. Nation building.

Anybody can run through the net to intern what it takes to build nations that work. The organisation and administration. Citizens have gone to work, and reaped the benefit of their sweat. They have not surrendered the proceeds of their industry to scoundrels and shark-rate creditors. They are not exploited like colonial citizens in their own land. So their countries work. For them.

It it not unity which builds a nation. It is how labour is deployed and the accrued profits invested or consumed, to general and popular uplift. A predatory and parasitic Kenya is going nowhere. The majority of her citizens are doomed to squalor and political unrest. That is root core of our existential threat, and one which, verily, will mature into recklessness unless otherwise.

 ---You know the slogan pwani si Kenya?

Kwani Mount Kenya ni Kenya? Na Rift Valley je!?
As a matter  of fact: ask Aden Duale the honest nationalist if he would not rather belong to a greater Somalia with his other kin; and ask DP Ruto if, with his venom at certain tribes, he would not rather be the president of KAMETUSA only! Mchawi Raila na Wajaluozake waende kwao kabisa! Kabisa kabisa!

Countries do fail. They are neither too big nor too small to fail. All through history all sorts have failed. Some mistakes they make, they will fail. Neither is Kenya immune to this. The first and 2nd republics already failed anyway. We could run up to five like (Nigeria or France) before we call it a day. The people they remain anyhow.

But, who expects a washed-out tramp to think that deep!?

Alice Wahome wasn't speaking her mind of course. She just found a paying customer for the day. Sold herself cheap. Well, she knows her going rates!

There is something about Kandara I can't say now. It is a place of very high rates too.

NB:
 ---'Ha! Lazy Kagia! How much have you amassed!? Look at Ngei and I'
----'Off it, you thief! Not everybody is a born parasite like your ilk, Jomo!'


This is Muranga, and there is Matiba and Rubia. That makes Wahome double-faced.

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2020, 10:29:01 AM »
Uhuru's only arsenal against Ruto is rigging Baba in and or denying Ruto a chance to steal the elections

Uhuru has so deftly locked Ruto out of the machinery. NIS, DPP, DCI... Kinoti is Kanyotu. Haji is Bernard Chunga - the kid of the BBI mzee - no Nobel to see the link. Mutyambai job was Ruto's under 50-50 - he picked "dinded fehicles" guy Kimaiyo and Joe Boinett. Treasury alinyang'anywa. Kiunjuri can't be fired so Agric troubles can be hanged on his neck.

Machinery worked so overtly against Ruto in Kibra and Bomas. Likes of Wahome and Nyoro were locked out by Kibicho.  Short-fused Murkomen threw a fit. :)

Watch out for two signs: new BBI twists and Jubilee elections. Uhuru will either impose his lineup or more likely disable Jubilee elections entirely. The status quo works fine for him.
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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2020, 11:06:43 AM »
THE GOING RATES OF KANDARA ALICE WAHOME

The juice lies elsewhere.

Incoherent rant full of typos. But you are almost right about Duale in that Ruto has no control over him. Besides wanton spread of his rot to mashinani, parliament toilets and the church, Ruto's sole leverage is the warriors in RV. With his desperation to bag Mt Kenya that is moot. Now he is battling Uhuru on the home ground, in parliament and in Jubilee. He was long kicked out of the machinery and has no means to force party elections. Old Raila knows in the trenches you cannot afford to lose control of the party. 2008 he locked Ruto out of the ODM kitchen. Even Ababu and Nanok sold out in a blink and vindicated Raila wisdom in denying them big posts in ODM. Ruto despite bloody nose from Kibra demands a national rematch - dude needs to learn a few thigs.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Alice Wahome - Uhuru Greatest Existential Threat
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2020, 12:20:52 PM »
Robina you're out of your depth. You think 1970s strategies can work now. I mean even 1990s don't work now.

Uhuru has 2020 - to do whatever he wants done - because 2011 is campaign year and 2022 is election year.

Now what can uhuru do - if he wants to continue he need amend the constitution - or hand over to either Ruto or anybody else.

Amending the constitution is no joke. They need to bring the bill like today - start signature collections - go through IEBC verification - and go through counties - go through parliament -  then have IEBC organize for referendum - campaign for it - and etc.

As long as constitution remain as it is - Ruto is sleep walking to PORK.

The immediate battle is to wrestle control of Jubilee from Tuju & gang - we shall be see a lot of drama. Uhuru will have to show his hand before march deadline when Jubilee need to hold elections or have a NEC to posphone it.