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Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« on: September 28, 2017, 05:42:23 PM »
aroundhttp://www.parliament.go.ke/the-national-assembly/house-business/bills/item/download/3957_450ed128f2d86fe0db7dedde69c1a1b8

Closely related to this is the Election Offences (Amendment) Bill No. 38 of 2017
http://www.parliament.go.ke/the-national-assembly/house-business/bills/item/download/3956_b1482ca6ce1a116370d5661f36ba66d7
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 05:56:50 PM »


The very definition of the chairperson has changed from Chebu to include vice chair or any other commissioner designated as the chairperson.

Amending section 6. Vice chairperson assumes the powers of the chairperson is the chairperson is absent for any reason
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 05:57:37 PM »
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 06:03:27 PM »
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 08:21:50 PM »
I am glad parliament is providing leadership as the country trudge along under a misguided IEBC and naive judiciary. These amendment are the anti-dote to scheme to defeat the will of people through NUSU MKATE nefarious plans. Sadly the ammendment in judiciary requires a referendum - and hopefully this can be done immediately after this election.

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 08:03:37 AM »
The laws says the following in simple terms:

Firstly,If chebukati fails to announce the results or resigns before October 26,2017,the vice chair nkatha who is not a lawyer will announce Uhuru as winner.

Secondly,IEBC has 7 commissioners and majority vote will prevail incase of disagreement withing the commission,If Akombe,Wafula and Mwachanya (NASA) oppose the results being transmitted,Nkatha,Guliye,Bolu and Kurgat (Jubilee) will go on and announce uhuru Kenyatta as winner,

Thirdly,If presiding officers from NASA strongholds refuse to sign form 34As incase NASA boycotts the election,they will be jailed for a term of 5 years.

Fourthly,If the IEBC system is hacked or fails to work,iebc will use manual results to announce winner,

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 11:18:28 AM »
Explain the highlighted further. I did not understand. Thanks in advance
The laws says the following in simple terms:

Firstly,If chebukati fails to announce the results or resigns before October 26,2017,the vice chair nkatha who is not a lawyer will announce Uhuru as winner.

Secondly,IEBC has 7 commissioners and majority vote will prevail incase of disagreement withing the commission,If Akombe,Wafula and Mwachanya (NASA) oppose the results being transmitted,Nkatha,Guliye,Bolu and Kurgat (Jubilee) will go on and announce uhuru Kenyatta as winner,

Thirdly,If presiding officers from NASA strongholds refuse to sign form 34As incase NASA boycotts the election,they will be jailed for a term of 5 years.

Fourthly,If the IEBC system is hacked or fails to work,iebc will use manual results to announce winner,

Without Prejudice.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 04:34:32 PM »


The paragraph 5
5. The quorum for the conduct of business at a meeting of the Commission shall be at least five members of the Commission.

Meeting quorum drops from 5 to 3


Decision making
7. Unless a unanimous decision is reached, a decision on any matter before the Commission shall be by concurrence of a majority of all the members.

Majority decision can theoretically be made by two down from 4

Why lol this fudging with quorum?
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 05:22:57 AM »
Lawyer Muthomi Thiankolu breaks it down...

Here is my take on the Election Laws (Amendment) Bill that is currently before Parliament and why it is STUPID
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 11:11:38 AM »
This is uber-nonsense. According to her or him everything is unconstitutional :) can we have constitutional lawyers for christ sake.
Lawyer Muthomi Thiankolu breaks it down...

Here is my take on the Election Laws (Amendment) Bill that is currently before Parliament and why it is STUPID

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 12:43:50 PM »
RV Pundit- Ruto led Kalenjins to oppose this new Katiba and he wants to eviscerate it by a fake legislative majority which he acquired through rigging and accumulation of tones of stolen public funds.  What Ruto does not understand is that democracy can only exist when people agree. He believe he can buy everything including laws that favor his brand of autocracy masquerading as democracy.  He is in for a rude awakening.

This is uber-nonsense. According to her or him everything is unconstitutional :) can we have constitutional lawyers for christ sake.
Lawyer Muthomi Thiankolu breaks it down...

Here is my take on the Election Laws (Amendment) Bill that is currently before Parliament and why it is STUPID
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 12:55:07 PM »
This is uber-nonsense. According to her or him everything is unconstitutional :) can we have constitutional lawyers for christ sake.
Lawyer Muthomi Thiankolu breaks it down...

Here is my take on the Election Laws (Amendment) Bill that is currently before Parliament and why it is STUPID
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 01:05:45 PM »
Where is he planning to go?

Connie Maina is a copy typist with fake degrees. How "techie" is she?

Stop games. You are to smart for that. Uhuru is not addressing any urgent gaps in the law. He is seeking to take us back to pre-mlolongo because the mother told him how things used to run smoothly under his dad. Inform him we too are determined to make sure he does not take us back.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 02:39:48 PM »
Where is he planning to go?

Connie Maina is a copy typist with fake degrees. How "techie" is she?

Stop games. You are to smart for that. Uhuru is not addressing any urgent gaps in the law. He is seeking to take us back to pre-mlolongo because the mother told him how things used to run smoothly under his dad. Inform him we too are determined to make sure he does not take us back.

Belize
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 04:17:24 PM »
Where is he planning to go?

Connie Maina is a copy typist with fake degrees. How "techie" is she?

Stop games. You are to smart for that. Uhuru is not addressing any urgent gaps in the law. He is seeking to take us back to pre-mlolongo because the mother told him how things used to run smoothly under his dad. Inform him we too are determined to make sure he does not take us back.


If ever there was confirmation that Jubilee were planning to despatch somebody, then this is it.  Chebukati needs to do an Akombe Broda.

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2017, 03:05:16 PM »
The elephant in the room

Raila v IEBC(2013) lends Babu his last bullet


The amendment Bill takes away the gun from him :o
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2017, 04:35:13 PM »
Precisely. That only amendment that take away their "hidden" axe card.

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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2017, 06:12:40 PM »
That's great. Elections need to be held asap. What good would delaying them do but hurt the economy?
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Re: Election Laws(Amendment) Bill No. 39 of 2017
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2017, 07:07:19 PM »
The point that eludes you or which you take for granted is that you really believe you  can force people into legitimizing your Kalenjin grown version of a democracy by draconian laws, tricks, rigging or brute force.  Democracy only works when we all agree and ascend to be governed. You can rule by force as a dictator but not in a democracy.  We are not going to be forced or tricked or rigged into anything. Somehow you idiots think that swearing ouru in by some kind of clever trick, ukora, fake majority, etc will somehow resolve your problems and we will lay docile for another five years and then watch like a hypnotized cat watching a ping pong game as power switches from kikuyu to Kalenjin and then back again into perpetuity.  NO we have options and we will resist all the way. Kama ni mbaya ni mbaya. In 2007 and 2013 we learned very valuable lessons. 

Precisely. That only amendment that take away their "hidden" axe card.
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