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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on January 22, 2020, 01:16:54 PM
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Ruto should plan on getting shagged during moi funeral. Moi is dead but Gideon is keeping him in a freezer waiting for the opportune time to use this for political expediency
Who will gain from mois death
Uhuru and raila. Raila will speak from two sides of his butt. On one he is a victim of nyayo dictatorship and on the other he would show that he choose to be the bigger man and forgave
Losers
Ruto will be shown as a thankless man that used moi and disrespected him when he was of no use. Gideon will ensure that ruto is kept at bay
I expect Tugen keaders to counter nandis and Kipsigis during this period.
Rv is split with rich farming south rift monopolizing the urp insurgency. I expect makibangi to shore up tugens and other asal kales.
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It will expose Gideon for the greedy fool he is and also show importance of educating kids.
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Bangi kitu mbaya
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you stole my words
Bangi kitu mbaya
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Bangi kitu mbaya
Which bangi Mr kipngeno. Your god will be humiliated during burial of dictator moi. My grandfather baptised moi. So moi would stop at my granddad and ask him for spiritual guidance. The last meeting with my grandfather he unleashed on moi over rift valley tribal crashes. My grand father was a self made African inland priest. Drove a Renault and had heavily invested in Eastland. At age of 90 he walked to Barclays and secured a loan to build a 4 storey rental apartments. The manager was so concerned he called my dad and uncle asking them why fhey were letting their old man borrow at thaf age. My grandpa told them he will stop his plans if they built the apartments themselves they did.
Jk rest in peace you did a lot in your 106 years of living
Moi is the one that single handedly brought nandi and Kipsigis from stone age to 18th century where they are stuck with ruto misleadership
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Mzungu brought development to nandi n kipsigis sio moi or Kenyatta.Maybe huko closed districts of pokot, tugen n Turkana did moi make some influence.
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Mzungu brought development to nandi n kipsigis sio moi or Kenyatta.Maybe huko closed districts of pokot, tugen n Turkana did moi make some influence.
And you morons are trying to kick out multinationals out kericho. Mzungu will send your economy to stone age.
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Surely we are now very good farmers - better than many bantus with centuries of farming background - and can run those tea farms.
And you morons are trying to kick out multinationals out kericho. Mzungu will send your economy to stone age.
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Lol kales cannot farm shit
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The best farmers in Kenya are Kales.
Lol kales cannot farm shit
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KenyanPlato you knew it all along.
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Good call plato....that explains why Uhuru was super active last week.
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Wow Giddy is a warrior kabisa. He waited for mcbangi and mzee Kobe raila to go to DC AND remove moi from the freezer. Mcbangi has to scramble back to get political mileage. Ruto is basking with his enemies body. What a turn of events.
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:) wait a minute plato...he waited for them to go for prayers in DC and then pull this one
Wow Giddy is a warrior kabisa. He waited for mcbangi and mzee Kobe raila to go to DC AND remove moi from the freezer. Mcbangi has to scramble back to get political mileage. Ruto is basking with his enemies body. What a turn of events.
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Haha i agree with crazy Plato. Ruto better enjoy his two minutes of fame while the dynamic duo are away.
By the way Moi sneaked into the ruling party through a post-election handshake with Jomo. They dissolved Kadu and joined sirkali. Moi played a key role in the Jaramogi downfall. The rest is history.
Seen Ruto on YouTube mumbling lies about Moi love for democracy and clean politics. Only God and the dead can be perfect with impunity.
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Robina what are people saying on the ground in RV? What echoes are you hearing? One thing that is likely as Ruto opens his mouth more and more is like what came out when he attends corruption conferences.
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Robina what are people saying on the ground in RV? What echoes are you hearing? One thing that is likely as Ruto opens his mouth more and more is like what came out when he attends corruption conferences.
People are seeing the state is not with him. Kalenjin unity is easy to wedge. Tolgos is holding BBI townhalls without disturbance which I doubt would be possible in Eldoret or Kericho.
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When is Tanga Tanga BBI really supposed to happen in Nakuru? Now Uhuru and Raila can cut short their visit in DC and hurriedly run back to Kwinya to a hero's welcome to go bury Moi. Gideon or Lee Kinyanjui will play dumb with Ruto until Uhuru jets back....
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Odm and the macabre.What so exciting about funerals.Moi is dead n will be given a decent burial.Then everyone goes back to their usual job..Raila to the non existent AU job..Ruto as DPORK..Gideon as Baringo Senator and Uhuru as a lameduck PORK.
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When is Tanga Tanga BBI really supposed to happen in Nakuru? Now Uhuru and Raila can cut short their visit in DC and hurriedly run back to Kwinya to a hero's welcome to go bury Moi. Gideon or Lee Kinyanjui will play dumb with Ruto until Uhuru jets back....
Tangatanga BBI in Nakuru is supposed to be Saturday 8th but I suspect they don't want to hold it. They took the trouble to invite Uhuru and Raila.
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But Moi was not just corrupt by not accounting for public, government money. He also believed he was some kind of god as told by some of his worst flatterers. Once, I attended a public meeting in Kericho, which the president addressed. Upon return to Nakuru State House, some people like William Lasoi and Kariuki Chotora started telling him how his body, like Jesus’, had radiated light when he was on the podium. And rather than admonish his flatterers, Moi laughed his head off, seeming to believe the lie.
https://www.nation.co.ke/nationprime/Koigi-big-falling-out-with-Moi/5279428-5444610-12vuk8l/index.html
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nyayo's Legacy the good, the bad and the ugly:
By the time moi took power in 1978 Kenyan institutions had been destroyed by Kenyatta regime in a vicious palace battle for Kenyatta succession. Kenyatta died while being held hostage in Mombasa by a cabal of charlatans who according to Kenyatta aides didn't even offer Kenyatta a chance to die in dignity, His personal aide narrated to DN that kenyatta died abandoned by those minding him. This claim was denied by Kenyatta family. Due to these battles kenyans were tired of Kenyatta regime. Kenyans wanted a break from Kenyatta era of corruption and mediocrity. So Moi was a breath of fresh air. When Charles Njonjo called the cabinet meeting that was meant to decide the fate of Kenyatta succession it was season finale to Kenyatta era. He had one plan in mind to punish the thugs that were surrounding Kenyatta by Making Moi president. CJ was able to fish moi from a swamp in RV where he had gone to hide as soon as he realized Kenyatta had died. Moi knew there plans to kill him by a militia called Ngoroko The plan was to kill moi and dissolve his body with acid and flush him to down the state lodge drainage pipe. So as soon as Moi sensed that kenyatta had died he ran to a swamp in Naivasha and hid. The army intelligence fished him from the hiding hole and took him to statehouse. When he got into the conference room Moi being an emotional person started wiping like a teething baby. Njonjo rose up and slapped Moi hard and told him to man up and chair the cabinet. He did as told and chaired the meeting and was made a transition president for 90 days
So in this backdrop Moi hit the ground to win hearts and minds of skeptical Kenyans. To tour the country he started soil conservation campaign to fight soil erosion caused mainly by poor farming practices. He advocated planting trees and building gabions. Since kenya is full of peasant farmers this endeared him to most.
Then came Air-force attempted coup in 1982. I saw the helicopters heading for NBI and little did I know that they were on their way to awaken a monster. The aftermath of this attempted coup resulted in Moi deciding to crash all dissents from within and without. In the process a lot of innocent people got killed, jailed and victimized. by end of the crackdown everyone was bitter with Moi and what started as a power consolidation move ended fracturing the country and gone was the popular support moi enjoyed. By 1988 moi was unpopular and fearing losing elections to dissidents within KANU he rigged everyone including Kibaki and Matiba his close allies in Central. After the rigging Matiba started to explore way to move on Moi first. He even toyed with military option by visiting Burundi to source mercenaries. Moi moved on Matiba first and demoted him from KANU and fired him from Cabinet. Kibaki the fence sitter stayed put in Kanu and was demoted to Health ministry and to avoid dealing with deteriorating health system Kibaki continued drinking and doing nothing. In 1990 Matiba reached out to Jaramogi and the movement to reappeal constitution started.
from 1988 to 1999 Moi kitchen cabinet had been taken over by Old carpet baggers akina mulu Mutysia,kariuki chotora and sharriff nassir, and other old buggers that could barely write their names. The technocrats in the regime decided that the wheels had come off and started wanton looting of public sector organizations and private companies. In this period a total of $40 billion dollars was stolen from Kenya and stashed in tax havens in Europe.
Meanwhile the West (America and Britain) had to support moi to help them stabilize East and Central Africa. Somali, Sudan, Uganda and lakes regions countries. These nations were all going through civil wars or recovering from wars. So moi used his elder statesman stature to negotiate end of wars in these countries. Kenya was at that point was hosting refugees from about 5 countries.
In short Moi legacy is mixed bag and it is really sad that due to kenyan murky politics moi spent his years as president honing skills to use absolute power to subjugate Kenyans. In the process corruption killed the State. As Ngugi wa Thiong'o would say years later Moi birthed a VIRUS called Moism. it will take generations to wipe out corruption and tribalism that Moi cultivated for over 20 years of his rule.
Legacy wise Moi left
A mostly peaceful country with only pockets in RV and coast were have occasional political violence
Made Kenya a leader in diplomacy in East and central Africa regions
Promoted education..although education was of poor quality Kenya is way ahead of her peers
Embraced Family planning and made it a central campaign
He was an environmentalist at heart. it is only that politics and his greed for patronage made him hurt the same causes he championed. He annexed Karura and tried to grab Uhuru park.
His biggest Failures:
Very corrupt
Ruined thousands of lives with his dictatorship
Allowed tribal clashes to become a way of settling political grievances
Was an insecure, myopic leader. He would not see a talent he didn't want to exploit and then destroy
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Jubilee tensions spill over to Moi’s state funeral plans
Unfolding events hours after Moi’s death show the DP was pushed to the periphery.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-06-jubilee-tensions-spill-over-to-mois-state-funeral-plans/
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Pundit how is that Uhurutopia yako 8) Is it true Ruto was barred by mortuary guy from viewing Moi body? This madharao is now worse than NARA - at least Raila could speak to Kibaki from behind the curtain. Plato is right Ruto could as well skip the funeral.
After the press conference, Dr Ruto was driven to Lee Funeral Home. While his itinerary was made public well in advance, the government officials were nowhere in sight; also missing were the military bosses.
Dr Ruto walked into the morgue with a battery of MPs and Rift Valley leaders, but he was told he could not view the body.
The reason?
The body was being embalmed and could not be viewed.
Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi is said to have asked the management to allow the DP to view the body since he was to proceed to Kakamega where a tragic incident claimed the lives of 14 pupils on Monday evening.
“A mzungu whom we believed is the manager or owner of the facility listened to us briefly before making it known that the request could not be granted immediately,” said the source.
The mzungu went ahead and told the DP and his entourage that they had to be patient for at least one-and-a-half hours for the body to be ready for viewing.
But the politicians felt they were being sidelined with the political feud between Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Dr Ruto playing out. The agitated lot pressed on, but did not get access.
“When it became apparent to Dr Ruto and his team that they would not be allowed to view the body, the DP ordered everyone out and requested to be left alone with the mzungu,” an MP who was present said.
“A minute later, the DP also came out of the facility having not viewed the body like the rest of us,” said the source.
Ruto woes: Power games in Moi funeral
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html
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I told you guus. Uhuru may try and impeach ruto but he will lose.
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Get busy. I only watch big events. Like BBI1.0. Otherwise Moi funeral drama is for slayqueens like you.
Pundit how is that Uhurutopia yako 8) Is it true Ruto was barred by mortuary guy from viewing Moi body? This madharao is now worse than NARA - at least Raila could speak to Kibaki from behind the curtain. Plato is right Ruto could as well skip the funeral.
After the press conference, Dr Ruto was driven to Lee Funeral Home. While his itinerary was made public well in advance, the government officials were nowhere in sight; also missing were the military bosses.
Dr Ruto walked into the morgue with a battery of MPs and Rift Valley leaders, but he was told he could not view the body.
The reason?
The body was being embalmed and could not be viewed.
Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi is said to have asked the management to allow the DP to view the body since he was to proceed to Kakamega where a tragic incident claimed the lives of 14 pupils on Monday evening.
“A mzungu whom we believed is the manager or owner of the facility listened to us briefly before making it known that the request could not be granted immediately,” said the source.
The mzungu went ahead and told the DP and his entourage that they had to be patient for at least one-and-a-half hours for the body to be ready for viewing.
But the politicians felt they were being sidelined with the political feud between Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Dr Ruto playing out. The agitated lot pressed on, but did not get access.
“When it became apparent to Dr Ruto and his team that they would not be allowed to view the body, the DP ordered everyone out and requested to be left alone with the mzungu,” an MP who was present said.
“A minute later, the DP also came out of the facility having not viewed the body like the rest of us,” said the source.
Ruto woes: Power games in Moi funeral
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html
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Pundit how is that Uhurutopia yako 8) Is it true Ruto was barred by mortuary guy from viewing Moi body? This madharao is now worse than NARA - at least Raila could speak to Kibaki from behind the curtain. Plato is right Ruto could as well skip the funeral.
After the press conference, Dr Ruto was driven to Lee Funeral Home. While his itinerary was made public well in advance, the government officials were nowhere in sight; also missing were the military bosses.
Dr Ruto walked into the morgue with a battery of MPs and Rift Valley leaders, but he was told he could not view the body.
The reason?
The body was being embalmed and could not be viewed.
Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi is said to have asked the management to allow the DP to view the body since he was to proceed to Kakamega where a tragic incident claimed the lives of 14 pupils on Monday evening.
“A mzungu whom we believed is the manager or owner of the facility listened to us briefly before making it known that the request could not be granted immediately,” said the source.
The mzungu went ahead and told the DP and his entourage that they had to be patient for at least one-and-a-half hours for the body to be ready for viewing.
But the politicians felt they were being sidelined with the political feud between Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Dr Ruto playing out. The agitated lot pressed on, but did not get access.
“When it became apparent to Dr Ruto and his team that they would not be allowed to view the body, the DP ordered everyone out and requested to be left alone with the mzungu,” an MP who was present said.
“A minute later, the DP also came out of the facility having not viewed the body like the rest of us,” said the source.
Ruto woes: Power games in Moi funeral
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html (https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html)
For a guy "who does not need the Mois" the hustler never tires of trying.
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Pundit how is that Uhurutopia yako 8) Is it true Ruto was barred by mortuary guy from viewing Moi body? This madharao is now worse than NARA - at least Raila could speak to Kibaki from behind the curtain. Plato is right Ruto could as well skip the funeral.
After the press conference, Dr Ruto was driven to Lee Funeral Home. While his itinerary was made public well in advance, the government officials were nowhere in sight; also missing were the military bosses.
Dr Ruto walked into the morgue with a battery of MPs and Rift Valley leaders, but he was told he could not view the body.
The reason?
The body was being embalmed and could not be viewed.
Kapseret MP Oscar Sudi is said to have asked the management to allow the DP to view the body since he was to proceed to Kakamega where a tragic incident claimed the lives of 14 pupils on Monday evening.
“A mzungu whom we believed is the manager or owner of the facility listened to us briefly before making it known that the request could not be granted immediately,” said the source.
The mzungu went ahead and told the DP and his entourage that they had to be patient for at least one-and-a-half hours for the body to be ready for viewing.
But the politicians felt they were being sidelined with the political feud between Baringo Senator Gideon Moi and Dr Ruto playing out. The agitated lot pressed on, but did not get access.
“When it became apparent to Dr Ruto and his team that they would not be allowed to view the body, the DP ordered everyone out and requested to be left alone with the mzungu,” an MP who was present said.
“A minute later, the DP also came out of the facility having not viewed the body like the rest of us,” said the source.
Ruto woes: Power games in Moi funeral
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html (https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-cuts--isolated-figure-as-Matiang-i-runs-Moi-burial-plans/1056-5445472-nw11hjz/index.html)
For a guy "who does not need the Mois" the hustler never tires of trying.
He craved the mzee's approval I thought. In the manner say a bastard or adopted kid would. Stalking the corpse doesn't make sense.
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Pundit
I love how kikuyus can really fuck with kalenjins and just demean them. R8ght now ruto can't even view his mentors body because Uhuru has instructed the morticians to keep thst corpse under lock and key.