Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
For once I'm in agreement with you. Third world should be non aligned. We have no dog in those fights.
We should be secretly hoping their exhaust themselves, as WWI and II did to the West.
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.I honestly hope you are right on that one statement ONLY (The rest you have written is hogwash as usual - future of planet earth should never be the sole preserve of one or two Nations - world issues - like Climate change - and wars affect every Nation and that is why they are called World wars)
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.I honestly hope you are right on that one statement. Does Kenya have a foreign policy worth talking about? I grew up and never understood how Kenya Govt got its foreign policy wrong at every turn! Always on the wrong side of History. Kenya Govt supported the evil Apartheid govt of South Africa coz Margaret Thatcher told them to do so. In Rwanda the Moi govt supported the murderous Hutu ... so many examples
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
This Kimanu guy is Munya Wayiaki reincarnated. I just hope he wrote that speech in their New York office without any regard from Nairobi. The logical is so flawless when you listen to it, who can dare fault it. It also aligns with our situation, past, present and even future. Which is really why Kimani holds that post.
To be fair to Putin though, what makes his situation any different to the late President Kennedy and how he reacted when he found the USSR had stockpiled missiles in Cuba only 144 miles from the US coastline?
Listen to the snippet here.
@Stockguru is probably Computer illiterate so he hasn't a clue how to edit a video so that he posts only that which is relevant.
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Russia is not a big dog, John Mcain rightfully called them a gas station. Watch how they get choked by USA and Europeans. Kenya is right to side with the big dogs, can you name one product or innovation that you are using right now that came from Russia? They are a military superpower but economically, they are a shithole. If you have doubts, ask the rich oligarchs, they rob russia and use the money in the west, once the the oligarchs are hit with sanctions, Putin will fold like a biatch.
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
You hit the nail in its head . First you need to ask what is Kenyans Foreign Policy - None , Who is the Foreign CS Raychelle Omamo . She has no clue whatsover , She has benn making one mistake after the other - The way she handled Migunas issue and also the way she handled UAE ban leaves a lot to be desired .
Now coming to Amb Kimani , He did his studies in U.K. His mentality if skewed for western thinking . His speech actually mirrors what actually Western nation do - Talk one thing and do the other thing . He talked of empires and nostalgia and non meddling in local affairs - Isnt what France and UK doing in Africa the exact opposite ? What was the Iraq and Afghanistan exploration ?
Now Amb Kimani as RV points out was the lead lawyer in tearing to tatters our Constitution he drafted the BBI - This is what Kenyans should judge him not some written speech which probably was drafted by some western nation apparatchik .
RV have been following you on Geopolitics you impress me . Seems you have a niche in Politics you should have done Political Science - Having said that I think you struggle in other areas like Economics /Finance / Business.
Russia can be good source for our weapons (we continue to buy expensively from US), for wheat imports, a market for our tea and coffee, source of tourists and also a source of investment.
We cannot afford to create unnecessary enemies. Let US and Western NATO fight their proxy wars in Ukraine.
2yrs ago we were courting Russia
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/russia-courts-kenya-for-new-business-trade-deals-2267160Russia is not a big dog, John Mcain rightfully called them a gas station. Watch how they get choked by USA and Europeans. Kenya is right to side with the big dogs, can you name one product or innovation that you are using right now that came from Russia? They are a military superpower but economically, they are a shithole. If you have doubts, ask the rich oligarchs, they rob russia and use the money in the west, once the the oligarchs are hit with sanctions, Putin will fold like a biatch.
Martin Kimani awachane na Russia. Sisi hatuna nguvu pic.twitter.com/56B4IiAoIU
— Ole Teya (@TeyaKevin) February 23, 2022
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
We dont need foreign policy created by someone without consulting at least our parliament.
We should stick to parliament, EAC, AU and UN resolutions.
What give Kenya the cheek to lecture Russia :)
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdS2Tn9S/ This guy is amazing. It’s almost impossible to imagine such an eloquent, intelligent guy being born in the same country like the idiots who lead us or have ambitions of leading us. This guy is at least serving his country, some of the most brilliant Kenyans are out there serving and enriching other countries because of the mediocrity of our leadership.
We absolutely need not be seen or heard on this matter at all. This fella is crafting a bigger career for himself, not looking out for our interests. Why on earth should we have anything to say about a European dispute or a Russian-American dispute? The GOVT should give him a serious warning ASAP. :o
Martin Kimani awachane na Russia. Sisi hatuna nguvu pic.twitter.com/56B4IiAoIU
— Ole Teya (@TeyaKevin) February 23, 2022
This is the most talked about speech. This guy hit it out of the park. His closing statement is amazing. Eloquently said and actually is the most sensible of all them speeches
Starts at minute 41
Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdS2Tn9S/ This guy is amazing. It’s almost impossible to imagine such an eloquent, intelligent guy being born in the same country like the idiots who lead us or have ambitions of leading us. This guy is at least serving his country, some of the most brilliant Kenyans are out there serving and enriching other countries because of the mediocrity of our leadership.
Shida ni I don't think he's serving us. He's having a big shiny moment in the spotlight. In some situations, being a good envoy means switching on invisibility mode and being as inconspicuous as the shadow.
He should be recalled and his replacement issue a neutral statement. Then we need to never be heard from in this neck of the woods ever again.
Russia no leverage on Kenya. They could negatively affect oil prices which would hurt everyone, including the silent ones. But in this situation, Kenya has nothing to lose by calling out Russia.
That is why Kenya for the first time can strectch its neck out. Trade with Russia is negligible.
It is possible that the US dictated to this Kenyan ambassador what to read at the UN council. Everything is possible with Kenyans.
That is why Kenya for the first time can strectch its neck out. Trade with Russia is negligible.Yes, it's very possible the Americans have canvassed and rallied ambassadors there. But I'd be very doubtful that he got an OK from GOK. He likely did his own thing, IMO. I see little reason why Kenya would dip its toes in these types of geopolitics when it has absolutely zero interests to speak of here. It's very imprudent.
It is possible that the US dictated to this Kenyan ambassador what to read at the UN council. Everything is possible with Kenyans.
Pundit you are wrong. This is afro optimism that we need. A clear and concise message to everyone. Remember due to racism kenyas contributions to second world War were whitewashed. If there is war in Europe we won't be non-aligned but we will have to be on one side. Putin is behaving like some emperor and needs to be told off. You live in the boot licking world of the past where africans are subservient to others. We are not and should never be. The reason why his speech is relevant is because majority of the people see it the same way.
Yes, it's very possible the Americans have canvassed and rallied ambassadors there. But I'd be very doubtful that he got an OK from GOK. He likely did his own thing, IMO. I see little reason why Kenya would deep its toes in these types of geopolitics when it has absolutely zero interests to speak of here. It's very imprudent.
Trade with Ukraine is even more neglibible
People forget, Kenya boycotted the 1980 Olympics in Moscow because of the Afghanistan invasion by the then USSR. The boycott of the games was led by the US. Kenya followed like a goat.
That is why Kimani can dare open his mouth on this issue. Moscow should have done its homework first and sent a delegate to Sagana Lodge with a big brown envelope before nyakuaring land that belongs to its neighbour.
You can talk all day in UN but Russia ambassador is sitting there with big vetoe! One vote - and all the voters from 196 other countries is useless
We need to choose our battles. Ukraine can go drying. If Russians in Ukraine are unhappy - why not? I dont see any problem with Russia taking over Russian speaking regions because those countries are joining EU and NATO to attack Russians in the future.
That prize they pay - Russians in those countries want to be part of Russia.
This is the most talked about speech. This guy hit it out of the park. His closing statement is amazing. Eloquently said and actually is the most sensible of all them speeches
Starts at minute 41
That is why Kenya for the first time can strectch its neck out. Trade with Russia is negligible.
It is possible that the US dictated to this Kenyan ambassador what to read at the UN council. Everything is possible with Kenyans.Russia no leverage on Kenya. They could negatively affect oil prices which would hurt everyone, including the silent ones. But in this situation, Kenya has nothing to lose by calling out Russia.
Angela Merkel was from East Germany and spoke Russian. There also many Russian speaking people in Poland and Baltic states. Should Russia take all over these countries?
Putin has isolated Russia. Even the other neighbours with sympathy to Russia will not be sitting pretty.
Russia has nothing to offer them apart form big arsenal. Nobody can eat nukes.You can talk all day in UN but Russia ambassador is sitting there with big vetoe! One vote - and all the voters from 196 other countries is useless
We need to choose our battles. Ukraine can go drying. If Russians in Ukraine are unhappy - why not? I dont see any problem with Russia taking over Russian speaking regions because those countries are joining EU and NATO to attack Russians in the future.
That prize they pay - Russians in those countries want to be part of Russia.
That is why Kenya for the first time can strectch its neck out. Trade with Russia is negligible.
It is possible that the US dictated to this Kenyan ambassador what to read at the UN council. Everything is possible with Kenyans.Russia no leverage on Kenya. They could negatively affect oil prices which would hurt everyone, including the silent ones. But in this situation, Kenya has nothing to lose by calling out Russia.
Pundit you are wrong. This is afro optimism that we need. A clear and concise message to everyone. Remember due to racism kenyas contributions to second world War were whitewashed. If there is war in Europe we won't be non-aligned but we will have to be on one side. Putin is behaving like some emperor and needs to be told off. You live in the boot licking world of the past where africans are subservient to others. We are not and should never be. The reason why his speech is relevant is because majority of the people see it the same way.
Russia can buy our tea and coffee - and sell us weapons.
Why do we care what they do in Eastern Europe.
When entire Africa is a huge mess.
Kenya should NEVER lecture Russia on ANYTHING. NEVER. We need 200yrs to get that audacity.
We can have our opinion - but kenya gov should stick to their lane. We cannot have opinion about Ethiopia but rushes to but in North Pole?
Exasctly Plato.
Pundit sounds like a Republican that take a position, and looks for the facts to fit the position they just took. Horrible way of making policy. Severe mental illness has invaded most Republicans.
What has stopped them from buying our tea and coffee? The world is an open market. You think Putin can force Russians to start drinking tea at 4 pm?
The country has to stand for something I guess. Putin is also trying to demolish the order that has "kept the peace" since World War 2. If you have kids, that is a scary kind of world you want them to live in. Kenya also has a neighbor, Somalia, that would not hesitate to reunite "its people" much the same way Putin is doing, when/if they ever get their shit in order.
What has stopped them from buying our tea and coffee? The world is an open market. You think Putin can force Russians to start drinking tea at 4 pm?Russia can buy our tea and coffee - and sell us weapons.
Why do we care what they do in Eastern Europe.
When entire Africa is a huge mess.
Kenya should NEVER lecture Russia on ANYTHING. NEVER. We need 200yrs to get that audacity.
We can have our opinion - but kenya gov should stick to their lane. We cannot have opinion about Ethiopia but rushes to but in North Pole?
The country has to stand for something I guess. Putin is also trying to demolish the order that has "kept the peace" since World War 2. If you have kids, that is a scary kind of world you want them to live in. Kenya also has a neighbor, Somalia, that would not hesitate to reunite "its people" much the same way Putin is doing, when/if they ever get their shit in order.
SMH, Frantz Fanon's description of the third world black bougie comes to my mind. Some of our so called learned care about the peace of the enemy, while the enemy sponsors revolutions, coups and upheavals in our backyard.
It may actually benefit Ukraine in the long run to lose those recalcitrant provinces for the sake of national cohesion. Crimea was Russian, Donbas is Russian.
"Eti security order? scary world?" /i] how are you threatened by Slavs half way around the world smashing themselves to pieces? Let them hold their own nuts. Anytime the Western world is caught up in some security situation whether it be with Russia or China, it is a respite for the rest of the world. It means they won't gather their resources and invade another third world country on contrived BS. Know your enemies. The West was arming both Saddam and the Iranians during the Iran-Iraq War, so they could exhaust themselves. Go by the same playbook.
As for wariahes joining their cousins I will not bat an eyelid if this country continues being the property of two tribes (2022 vote is historic), in that case I advocate the dissolution of this fake British creation, secession of the Coast, RV, Western, Northern Kenya. No one tribe has god given rights to lord over us, ukoloni umeisha baba
The country has to stand for something I guess. Putin is also trying to demolish the order that has "kept the peace" since World War 2. If you have kids, that is a scary kind of world you want them to live in. Kenya also has a neighbor, Somalia, that would not hesitate to reunite "its people" much the same way Putin is doing, when/if they ever get their shit in order.
SMH, Frantz Fanon's description of the third world black bougie comes to my mind. Some of our so called learned care about the peace of the enemy, while the enemy sponsors revolutions, coups and upheavals in our backyard.
It may actually benefit Ukraine in the long run to lose those recalcitrant provinces for the sake of national cohesion. Crimea was Russian, Donbas is Russian.
"Eti security order? scary world?" /i] how are you threatened by Slavs half way around the world smashing themselves to pieces? Let them hold their own nuts. Anytime the Western world is caught up in some security situation whether it be with Russia or China, it is a respite for the rest of the world. It means they won't gather their resources and invade another third world country on contrived BS. Know your enemies. The West was arming both Saddam and the Iranians during the Iran-Iraq War, so they could exhaust themselves. Go by the same playbook.
As for wariahes joining their cousins I will not bat an eyelid if this country continues being the property of two tribes (2022 vote is historic), in that case I advocate the dissolution of this fake British creation, secession of the Coast, RV, Western, Northern Kenya. No one tribe has god given rights to lord over us, ukoloni umeisha baba
Frantz Fanon was an interesting character. Very illuminating and impractical. In the real world, you have to make choices. Pick sides. If you don't, they will be picked for you.
Looking past the *it doesn't affect me personally, so it doesn't matter* school of thinking, some people are affected by what's happening elsewhere to other human beings, even if they are not their immediate relatives.
Imagine a world where the only rule is if you can get away with it, then it's okay. A world without morals. That is the light in which I see Putin's actions. There is no telling where that will stop. I know America is also not innocent of forceful interventions. The existing system, is not perfect, but it's the closest to one in history.
Study Jubbaland and what Kenya has done. This is what Russia is doing. Because Ukraine is become another Somalia - Kenya carved itself Jubbaland controlled by Governor Madobe. Ethiopia have Puntland and Somaliland.
If Somali irredentism continues - we certainly have no option but to occupy Jubbaland - or at least make it independent from Mogadishu so they can get a buffer.
In short Russian doesn't need anybody permission to defend it's people. Ukraine joining NATO is declaring war against Russian in Kimanisque English.
As usual twisting things to suite your needs. Ukraine has held democratic elections since 1994 and several presidents have come and gone. Placing it at the same level as Somalia is a joke. Apart from the Eastern part of Ukraine bordering Russia, that place is safer than Kenya any time.
Orange revolution that gaves us ODM?
Ukraine is deeply divided country - with Russian part wanting to look to Kremlin - and with South wanting to look down to EU/NATO
Rather than revolution and civil wars - split that country into two.
Let those who want to go back to Russia federation go there.
Those that want to join EU/NATO remain
End of day - everyone is happy.
Even Kenyan eventually if we cannot keep everyone happy - we have to let go of some people.
Modern world should allow people peaceful secession
If a referendum is held - and say threshold is place at 95 percent- then we can solve that problem.
You should only secede if you can convince almost everyone it's the best decision.
Afghanistan
— Donald B Kipkorir (@DonaldBKipkorir) February 23, 2022
Venezuela
Tunisia
Yemen
Libya
Syria
Iran
Iraq
Cuba
Bolivia
Somalia
Lebanon
Zimbabwe
All the Countries above have been bombed or sanctioned because the West didn’t or doesn’t like their Governments. Their sovereignty is meaningless because they are not UKRAINE.
The democratic elected parliament of Ukraine passed a resolution to apply for EU and NATO status. That does not mean Ukraine will get the staus automatically. Ukraine does not even fulfil the minimum requirements. The Eu or NATo have not even considered Ukraine to join them.
The borders of Ukraine were agreed upon in the agreement to dissolve the USSR in 1994. Russia signed the agreement. So the borders of Ukraine are internationally accepted as to the agreement of 1994. If any Ukraine wants to go live in Russia, he is free to do so but leave Ukraine soil behind him.Orange revolution that gaves us ODM?
Ukraine is deeply divided country - with Russian part wanting to look to Kremlin - and with South wanting to look down to EU/NATO
Rather than revolution and civil wars - split that country into two.
Let those who want to go back to Russia federation go there.
Those that want to join EU/NATO remain
End of day - everyone is happy.
Even Kenyan eventually if we cannot keep everyone happy - we have to let go of some people.
Modern world should allow people peaceful secession
If a referendum is held - and say threshold is place at 95 percent- then we can solve that problem.
You should only secede if you can convince almost everyone it's the best decision.
Afghanistan
— Donald B Kipkorir (@DonaldBKipkorir) February 23, 2022
Venezuela
Tunisia
Yemen
Libya
Syria
Iran
Iraq
Cuba
Bolivia
Somalia
Lebanon
Zimbabwe
All the Countries above have been bombed or sanctioned because the West didn’t or doesn’t like their Governments. Their sovereignty is meaningless because they are not UKRAINE.
I think Putin knows that if he allowed them to split eventually most will go to the EU/Western/NATO side mostly because of economics and freedom. Russians don't want to live in Russia. Look at how many oligarchs are hiding out and enjoying life in London? Look at how many russians are immigrating to the US. It's economics. Putins problem has always been economics.
People want two things: Freedom and money. The western world is currently the only place where you can get these two things. I"ve never heard anyone tell me that they'd love to immigrate to China, Iran, Russia or Turkey (with that lunatic Erdogan and his crashing currency). This is the anti-western axel, but unless these countries become richer and militarily stronger, they will never beat the west. Also, they need to adopt the rule of law, which ensures justice and a fair playing field for all. You can't be injecting people with uranium in London, imprisoning people with no trial (like Erdogan), locking people in their houses like the CCP and think people will want to live in those hell holes. :D
2014 - Crimea
2020- eastern region
Where next??
2014 - Crimea
2020- eastern region
Where next??
Anywhere where ethnic russians are the majority - and country enters NATO or EU - which is aggressive hostile to Russia. That is all it boils down to.
Russian cannot be forced to enter anti-Russian alliance like NATO.
They will secede and join the Russian federation.2014 - Crimea
2020- eastern region
Where next??
Man, I saw this headline and cringed. Why are we yapping on matters that neither impact us nor lend themselves to our impact....? We should stick to our neighborhood where we can at least convince our friends to come to peace talks when they're fighting.
The reason Bazungu involve themselves in everybody's war is:
1) Their power and money means they have an impact in virtually every corner of the globe.
2) Their power and money typically means they have some interest to protect or advance in virtually every corner of the globe.
Otherwise, it's best for regional issues to be dealt with regionally. Sasa sisi tunatokelea wapi jameni? I think this is yet another thing Uhuru's govt has dropped the ball on. Who even is Minister of Foreign Affairs? I know it's no longer Amina. Someone amelala kazini mahali . . .
The primary aim of The organization of African Unity was to promote African unification and economic development while fighting colonialism and apartheidIt is statements like the one you made below that convince me and others over here, that you overrate yourself. So what resolution was Kenya waiting for before they got against apartheid yet the instruments that formed it explicitly stated that its formation was to fight apartheid and the evil white minority government??? Kenya was therefore at loggerheads with OAU coz of its stance.
Kenya’s unilateral decision to pursue an FTA with the US has triggered critiques from members of the East African Community (EAC) and the African Continental Free Trade Area (AfCFTA). Both the EAC and the AfCFTA agreements discourage members from pursuing bilateral trade deals with third parties.I repeat, Kenya has never had a foreign policy for probably as long as I have lived. I rest my case.
I think kenya foreign policy has always been not have any policy unless it's EAC or AU or UN resolution. FALSE - so how about the free Trade Agreement FTA signed in 2020??
Dr Sally Kosgey use to steer that ministry - with Stanford level of intellect - once gave Minister Kalonzo a big slap for being an idiot
Then Dr Juma came - she is also intelligent - but we started trying to exert ourselves - BIG mistake.
Now I think Kamau the PS - UN guy for long time - runs the show.
We dont need any foreign policy - except one that pursues peace and stay out of foreign conflicts
In short not to be opinionated about conflicts even in arounds us.
To always call for peaceful resolution of any conflict.
We couldn't get into RSA conflict until AU had passed a resolution - and we then abided.
We want to be friendly to everyone unless they are unfriendly to us.
We really have no business talking about Russia and Eastern Europe.
We can talk a storm in the UN - but eventually Russia will VETO it.Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.I honestly hope you are right on that one statement. Does Kenya have a foreign policy worth talking about? I grew up and never understood how Kenya Govt got its foreign policy wrong at every turn! Always on the wrong side of History. Kenya Govt supported the evil Apartheid govt of South Africa coz Margaret Thatcher told them to do so. In Rwanda the Moi govt supported the murderous Hutu ... so many examples
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
This Kimanu guy is Munya Wayiaki reincarnated. I just hope he wrote that speech in their New York office without any regard from Nairobi. The logical is so flawless when you listen to it, who can dare fault it. It also aligns with our situation, past, present and even future. Which is really why Kimani holds that post.
To be fair to Putin though, what makes his situation any different to the late President Kennedy and how he reacted when he found the USSR had stockpiled missiles in Cuba only 144 miles from the US coastline?
Listen to the snippet here.
@Stockguru is probably Computer illiterate so he hasn't a clue how to edit a video so that he posts only that which is relevant.
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Here is a clear statement that this buffoon just types anything.
First the Historical timelines: AU came into existence in 2002. Yet Mandela and South Africa achieved Majority rule way back in 1994. Prior to AU we had the OAU. So even if you meant to say 'we couldn't get into RSA conflict until OAU had passed a resolution - and we then abided', that is a totally UNSCHOOLED statement. So you went to Mogotio DEB school where Mogotio goats roamed freely and you studied under trees, but surely OAU was part of the syllabus, was it not? Because if you studied that topic then you would know why OAU was formed in the first place! And even if you missed out then you remain the ONLY member on Veritas Blog of your generation who does know that:QuoteThe primary aim of The organization of African Unity was to promote African unification and economic development while fighting colonialism and apartheidIt is statements like the one you made below that convince me and others over here, that you overrate yourself. So what resolution was Kenya waiting for before they got against apartheid yet the instruments that formed it explicitly stated that its formation was to fight apartheid and the evil white minority government??? Kenya was therefore at loggerheads with OAU coz of its stance.
More recently Kenya showed it had not ceased showing the middle finger to its fellow African states. In 2020, Ouru signed the free trade agreement (FTA) with Trump when ideally, it should have signed as a block.QuoteKenya’s unilateral decision to pursue an FTA with the US has triggered critiques from members of the East African Community (EAC) and the African Continental Free Trade Area (AfCFTA). Both the EAC and the AfCFTA agreements discourage members from pursuing bilateral trade deals with third parties.I repeat, Kenya has never had a foreign policy for probably as long as I have lived. I rest my case.I think kenya foreign policy has always been not have any policy unless it's EAC or AU or UN resolution.
Dr Sally Kosgey use to steer that ministry - with Stanford level of intellect - once gave Minister Kalonzo a big slap for being an idiot
Then Dr Juma came - she is also intelligent - but we started trying to exert ourselves - BIG mistake.
Now I think Kamau the PS - UN guy for long time - runs the show.
We dont need any foreign policy - except one that pursues peace and stay out of foreign conflicts
In short not to be opinionated about conflicts even in arounds us.
To always call for peaceful resolution of any conflict.
We couldn't get into RSA conflict until AU had passed a resolution - and we then abided.
We want to be friendly to everyone unless they are unfriendly to us.
We really have no business talking about Russia and Eastern Europe.
We can talk a storm in the UN - but eventually Russia will VETO it.Kenya should stay away from big boys fight.I honestly hope you are right on that one statement. Does Kenya have a foreign policy worth talking about? I grew up and never understood how Kenya Govt got its foreign policy wrong at every turn! Always on the wrong side of History. Kenya Govt supported the evil Apartheid govt of South Africa coz Margaret Thatcher told them to do so. In Rwanda the Moi govt supported the murderous Hutu ... so many examples
Concentrate on Ethiopia, DRC and such.
Kenya foreign policy should remain neutral
We dont want Russia as our enemy
China as our enemy
US as our enemy.
Europe as our enemy.
Let them fight their wars.
The speech should have been - NO COMMENT - we urge Russia and Ukraine to pursue peaceful negotiation and avoid wars.
This Kimani is an idiot who doesnt understand Kenya foreign policy.
Stringing good English to appease Western Europe alliance is not intelligence - intelligence is knowing when to be silent.
This same Kimani idiot who came up with BBI nonsense.
China ambassador made the best speech - in short - it's NONE of our BUSINESS.
It's the North Pole, Bears and whatever happens there doesnt affect us.
This Kimanu guy is Munya Wayiaki reincarnated. I just hope he wrote that speech in their New York office without any regard from Nairobi. The logical is so flawless when you listen to it, who can dare fault it. It also aligns with our situation, past, present and even future. Which is really why Kimani holds that post.
To be fair to Putin though, what makes his situation any different to the late President Kennedy and how he reacted when he found the USSR had stockpiled missiles in Cuba only 144 miles from the US coastline?
Listen to the snippet here.
@Stockguru is probably Computer illiterate so he hasn't a clue how to edit a video so that he posts only that which is relevant.
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I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.
I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.I just gave you an example of the FTA, where has Kenya foreign policy or lack thereof drawn the line in the sand between African questions and global ones? Kenya undercuts it's own neighbours. Look if you want to debate me you have to expand your thinking horizons.
I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
Plato, you have made a subtle but important point. It is Foreign policy. Even for that African policy he talks about, Kenya is never in sync with African countries as we have seen so many times, apartheid, free Trade Agreement (FTA) etc @Mami thinking is insular. Kijijini. He probably thinks Climate change does not concern Kenya as if issues like those have boundaries??. On his own admission, @Mami never studied Foreign Affairs of any country. Hasn't a clue what living in 2022 is as opposed to living in 17th century was. 'Common sense' my foot, does the world politically run on common sense? No, no, more like looking into History so it goes not repeat itself.I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions ..."It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. ......
I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
Goodness, I had no idea how petty and dishonest you can get over some issue that will never concern you in any real sense :D Ati now I claimed I never studied foreign affairs OF ANY COUNTRY :D And in addition you have a magic crystal ball that tells you what I think about climate change.Plato, you have made a subtle but important point. It is Foreign policy. Even for that African policy he talks about, Kenya is never in sync with African countries as we have seen so many times, apartheid, free Trade Agreement (FTA) etc @Mami thinking is insular. Kijijini. He probably thinks Climate change does not concern Kenya as if issues like those have boundaries??. On his own admission, @Mami never studied Foreign Affairs of any country. Hasn't a clue what living in 2022 is as opposed to living in 17th century was. 'Common sense' my foot, does the world politically run on common sense? No, no, more like looking into History so it goes not repeat itself.I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions ..."It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. ......
Mankind has been through an Agricultural revolution, went on to Industrial revolution and now we are in the information age. Essentially the world is a global village. Why were they called world wars? Because they affected the whole world. Even those who remained neutral like the swiss and the Vatican had to contend with the new world order they were living in. So the world saw it fit to form the United Nations and still saw it fit to admit all independent Nations of the world to the table. Mami just wants to be with Mommy in the village. They should take away their UNEP from Nairobi. Geez!
Mami thinks strong Nations only come at you with bombs like Russia is doing to Ukraine. No Mami, no. Sri Lanka gave away their port to China. I hear Zim or is it Zambia also doing the same as it is rumored that Mombasa port could be collateral in case we default on our SGR loan to China. Plato is damn right, If we do not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow China will claim our port and @Mami will be saying don't concern yourself with China coz it is "half-way across the world." ,Common sense? Don't know but I know that is Bullshit!
P.S. Please do not reply to my post without including an opinion of FTA. You seem to be skirting around that point, avoiding it.
I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
In any case, he is standing up for international law. Even if Kenya does not gain materially from it, I don't see how that is a losing proposition.
Wewe Kingereza mingi ..... just give us your opinion on the direction Kenya has taken on the FTA. If you don't have anyGoodness, I had no idea how petty and dishonest you can get over some issue that will never concern you in any real sense :D Ati now I claimed I never studied foreign affairs OF ANY COUNTRY :D And in addition you have a magic crystal ball that tells you what I think about climate change.Plato, you have made a subtle but important point. It is Foreign policy. Even for that African policy he talks about, Kenya is never in sync with African countries as we have seen so many times, apartheid, free Trade Agreement (FTA) etc @Mami thinking is insular. Kijijini. He probably thinks Climate change does not concern Kenya as if issues like those have boundaries??. On his own admission, @Mami never studied Foreign Affairs of any country. Hasn't a clue what living in 2022 is as opposed to living in 17th century was. 'Common sense' my foot, does the world politically run on common sense? No, no, more like looking into History so it goes not repeat itself.I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions ..."It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. ......
Mankind has been through an Agricultural revolution, went on to Industrial revolution and now we are in the information age. Essentially the world is a global village. Why were they called world wars? Because they affected the whole world. Even those who remained neutral like the swiss and the Vatican had to contend with the new world order they were living in. So the world saw it fit to form the United Nations and still saw it fit to admit all independent Nations of the world to the table. Mami just wants to be with Mommy in the village. They should take away their UNEP from Nairobi. Geez!
Mami thinks strong Nations only come at you with bombs like Russia is doing to Ukraine. No Mami, no. Sri Lanka gave away their port to China. I hear Zim or is it Zambia also doing the same as it is rumored that Mombasa port could be collateral in case we default on our SGR loan to China. Plato is damn right, If we do not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow China will claim our port and @Mami will be saying don't concern yourself with China coz it is "half-way across the world." ,Common sense? Don't know but I know that is Bullshit!
P.S. Please do not reply to my post without including an opinion of FTA. You seem to be skirting around that point, avoiding it.
Keep singing about solidarity with the Ukraine here all day long. Where was it when Libya turned into 7th Century Arabia? :D This is so childish. Still believing in fairy tales like this after everything you know about the world at this age, yawa.
I won't rain on your parade anymore. Solidarity forever! Maybe it'll help the Ukraine piece itself back together. Good luck 🤞
And PS: I ain't no "he".
Kenyan plato you are lying. There are more Kenyans im Russia than Ukraine. Why do you think there is an Embassy in Moscow and Consulate in Kyiv ?
And the rhetoric of who are many is plain Bullshit. What will you say when you hear there a more Russians in U.S. than Kenyans ?I mean, it's not that well defined, Audacity, but on this matter, Pundit is not wrong! Our policy should be stick to African questions UNLESS WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. Even within Africa we need to be careful in how and when we opine and venture into our neighbors' problems.It is foreign policy not African policy. We are not inferior or subservient. If we not stand with Ukraine today tomorrow an new empire may decide to occupy kenya and Ukraine could pay in kind. Our struggle for independence was international in nature. We were active participants in wwii. The lives of kenyans soldiers on the battle field were used to craft the new world order post wwii. Putin wants to violate this agreements then we have every right to tell him off. Kenya nessage was the right one. We are no longer waiting for queen or king to give us direction. By the way kenyan ethos and aspirations are of western standards of living. There is no kenyans aspiring to be Russian. We have more kenyans in Ukraine than we have in Russia presently. They deserve our protection
Audacity, I have not studied Kenyan Foreign Affairs, I'm really talking from a common sense rather than an expert perspective. What is our impact on Russian actions in the Ukraine? What is our interest? If the answer is zero, then these be some highly imprudent moves here. Conflict in Africa affects us one way or another both as members of the AU as well as our being a big asylum-providing country in the region. Sasa sisi here in East Africa tutaruka huko Eastern Europe saa ngapi na kwa nini? :D Don't look at this issue so much from your lense as an American/UK-resident. Just as a Baafrika/Meero. Unless the Americans have promised us some big goodies I don't know about in exchange for supporting them on this type of thing, the only wise thing for us to do is shut up and follow developments on viusasa.
Audacity, I have not studied Kenyan Foreign Affairs, I'm really talking from a common sense rather than an expert perspective. What is our impact on Russian actions in the Ukraine? What is our interest? If the answer is zero, then these be some highly imprudent moves here. Conflict in Africa affects us one way or another both as members of the AU as well as our being a big asylum-providing country in the region. Sasa sisi here in East Africa tutaruka huko Eastern Europe saa ngapi na kwa nini? :D Don't look at this issue so much from your lense as an American/UK-resident. Just as a Baafrika/Meero. Unless the Americans have promised us some big goodies I don't know about in exchange for supporting them on this type of thing, the only wise thing for us to do is shut up and follow developments on viusasa.
The answer is not zero. There is interest. Gas prices in Kenya skyrocketed. Wheat and other commodities also rise. As member of security council Kenya cannot play neutral. Even China abstaining is not neutral, just playing safe. Non-Aligned Movement no longer exist in real terms. India championed non-aligned is not neutral. Kimani doing well.
Beijing on Disconnecting Russia From SWIFT: China Not Backing Sanctions to Settle Issues
China does not approve of the use of sanctions as a means to resolve conflicts, foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin said on Monday.
"China does not support the use of sanctions to solve problems, and opposes unilateral sanctions that have no basis in international law," Wang told reporters when asked about Beijing's stance on Russia being disconnected from the SWIFT payment system.
Commenting on the possibility that Chinese companies will join anti-Russian sanctions, the diplomat said that Beijing demands that the US do not harm the legitimate rights and interests of China and other parties in resolving the Ukrainian issue.
"China supports and encourages everything that contributes to the peaceful resolution of the situation in Ukraine. Ukraine should become a link between East and West, and not a border of confrontation between great powers," the diplomat said, urging the parties to negotiate to ease tensions.
Additionally, the spokeswoman said that Russia and China will continue normal trade cooperation in the spirit of mutual respect, equality and mutual benefit.
So what is neutral , Supporting U.S. ?Supporting Russia? Definetly China and India were Neutral and the Neutrality weighed more for the Russians than U.S.
These are just facts.Audacity, I have not studied Kenyan Foreign Affairs, I'm really talking from a common sense rather than an expert perspective. What is our impact on Russian actions in the Ukraine? What is our interest? If the answer is zero, then these be some highly imprudent moves here. Conflict in Africa affects us one way or another both as members of the AU as well as our being a big asylum-providing country in the region. Sasa sisi here in East Africa tutaruka huko Eastern Europe saa ngapi na kwa nini? :D Don't look at this issue so much from your lense as an American/UK-resident. Just as a Baafrika/Meero. Unless the Americans have promised us some big goodies I don't know about in exchange for supporting them on this type of thing, the only wise thing for us to do is shut up and follow developments on viusasa.
The answer is not zero. There is interest. Gas prices in Kenya skyrocketed. Wheat and other commodities also rise. As member of security council Kenya cannot play neutral. Even China abstaining is not neutral, just playing safe. Non-Aligned Movement no longer exist in real terms. India championed non-aligned is not neutral. Kimani doing well.