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'Hustler' – Title or name, it is working for DP Ruto
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:57:10 AM »
https://www.the-star.co.ke/opinion/star-blogs/2020-09-30-hustler-title-or-name-it-is-working-for-dp-ruto/

Attaining a PhD is no ordinary academic fete. With a vast investment in time, resources and intellectual input, a holder of what is the highest university degree would proudly assume the title ‘Doctor’. It is an honour to be referred to as such. Humans are in love with standing out, and the prefix ‘Dr’ would give meaning to a name.

Dr William Samoei Ruto will not, or rather, does not call himself ‘Dr’. For him, “hustler” wins. He is Kenya’s known hustler. The title belongs to him. It is his. It is him. We won’t question if he is a hustler or not, but Ruto is the hustler in this political hemisphere. We have to recognise that fact from the onset.

The public, particularly the youth, have their definition of the term hustler. That is why they won’t be like Cotu secretary general, Francis Atwoli to refer to the English dictionary. “Hustler” in the Kenyan context is a name from the streets, not from the English dictionary. It is a transliteration of “hasola”.

 
In the streets, a hasola is one who is working to the last drop of his sweat. One who will not take a specific route. His eyes are on the returns of the struggle, whether the means will be messy, risky, tough or easy. The task may be here or there, a hasola has to be present. He has to work anywhere and everywhere and for anyone. He or she is not chooser of tasks. In hustling, there is no space for academic titles. A hasola has to mingle. He has to accept all dirt thrown at him. Eyes of hasolas are forever fixed on the prize, what they undergo is just a journey.

The majority of Kenyans have no formal or permanent employment. They are the real hasolas. Ruto is managing to identify with them. They often refer to him as Hustler, even before he refers to himself as so. And he calls his supporter “fellow hustlers”, appearing to give them hope that they will make it in their hustles.

For these reasons, ODM leader Raila Odinga has found himself flatfooted. Unlike Ruto, Raila’s political name-tags have always placed him at a higher class. Tinga crawled into Agwambo, temporarily metamorphosed into Joshua and now he is Baba. All the political street titles elevated and delinked him from the ordinaries. The names and praises place him above the rest. The ordinary voters hate class and Ruto knows it. It has now downed on Raila that “hustler” is a name within and amongst hasolas. Tinga, Agwambo, Joshua, Baba all sound like the bully head boy. “Who are you” identifies you, “what are you” defines you.

Let us own up that the hasola is rising high and fast. Baba should be fatherly and heed to Chinua Achebe’s wisdom that “let the kite perch and let the eagle perch too. If one says to the other no, let his wings break.“

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Re: 'Hustler' – Title or name, it is working for DP Ruto
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2020, 08:08:27 AM »
If you saw the news the recent protestors in Nakuru were chanting Hustler, one interviewed woman was so emotional saying how she is a hustler and the authorities want to finish them off. She was almost crying this is a title that Ruto has taken and ran away with it, fools like Atwoli and others want to bad mouth the name as if we don't know english, the more they fight it the better. Ruto has suddenly realized he doesn't need Uhuru at this rate, saw him in Karen he was looking happy,murathe the drunkard has all of a sudden become sober I think he was told to wake up from his drunken stupor. These guys are shitting bricks guessing Hustler next move

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2020, 08:27:23 AM »
If Atwoli is their chief advisor - they don't need any enemy. Why on earth would somebody serious go and see Atwoli in Kajiado to plan anything. The man is barely literate. Atwoli-Murathe - that is perfect combination - in the destination fu.cked.
If you saw the news the recent protestors in Nakuru were chanting Hustler, one interviewed woman was so emotional saying how she is a hustler and the authorities want to finish them off. She was almost crying this is a title that Ruto has taken and ran away with it, fools like Atwoli and others want to bad mouth the name as if we don't know english, the more they fight it the better. Ruto has suddenly realized he doesn't need Uhuru at this rate, saw him in Karen he was looking happy,murathe the drunkard has all of a sudden become sober I think he was told to wake up from his drunken stupor. These guys are shitting bricks guessing Hustler next move

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2020, 10:14:20 AM »
a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2020, 11:48:35 AM »
Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2020, 12:32:29 PM »
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2020, 03:25:00 PM »
See MOAS on Nairobi-Sonko
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2020, 05:18:53 PM »
Sonko can't sell past Nairobi slums. He is just rich chokora. You need Raila or Mobutu chameleon traits to mesh seamlessly across wolf and sheep. Ruffian yet stately.

See MOAS on Nairobi-Sonko
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2020, 05:38:32 PM »
Raila is past his prime. Nobody excited about his monotonous ideas anymore. Very old tired man. Ruto sleepwalking to PORK as we speak...plus or minus Uhuru :) .  Hustler nation is promising every hustler something tangible - hata kama ni wheelbarrow - but Raila been selling ideas since 1990!!

Sonko can't sell past Nairobi slums. He is just rich chokora. You need Raila or Mobutu chameleon traits to mesh seamlessly across wolf and sheep. Ruffian yet stately.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2020, 06:10:21 PM »
Well let see Msambweni. You are yet to pick hustler dog... I wonder why.

Raila is past his prime. Nobody excited about his monotonous ideas anymore. Very old tired man. Ruto sleepwalking to PORK as we speak...plus or minus Uhuru :) .  Hustler nation is promising every hustler something tangible - hata kama ni wheelbarrow - but Raila been selling ideas since 1990!!

Sonko can't sell past Nairobi slums. He is just rich chokora. You need Raila or Mobutu chameleon traits to mesh seamlessly across wolf and sheep. Ruffian yet stately.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2020, 12:49:47 PM »
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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Most regime changing elections are won against the norm  , do you remember 2002 and 2013 elections ?

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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2020, 12:33:35 AM »
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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Hustler | Definition of Hustler at Dictionary.com

Most regime changing elections are won against the norm  , do you remember 2002 and 2013 elections ?

Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2020, 06:40:17 AM »
If I told you Luos will vote Ruto in any large numbers I would be lying. Tribes matters but only in areas that have strong tribal kingpin. For now we know Ruto and Raila have their home- base covered and are front runners for that reason. Anybody else need to do their homework. Well, we are all watching GEMA moves. So far it look likely a divided house. Like Luhyas. Then you go for small tribes or large tribes without unity of purpose - then you'll go influencers - and the dynamics of the day. Avoid over-analyzing dead woods - for example assembling Gideon and Isaac Ruto will not make any dent on Ruto numbers in RV. Be aware of new issues and new players. For example I told you in Meru - why you're focussed on Kiraitu and Munya - Mwangaza might be underground causing a storm. Matiangi is definitely a new player in Gusii - Raila propped him but he will eat Raila's lunch - and Ruto will probably get his part. Mijikenda - watch Kingi - there is a storm underground in Kilifi - and Joho might find himself with Mombasa alone -if Jicho Pevu doesn't take it. Maa are in a fix - as they try to wade off kispigis expansion in Narok - they have needed Raila and Uhuru in their fight - but historically kalenjin and maa are close...and Ruto will carry the day if Narok is handed over to them - especially the most voluble ole kina. Somalis and related - those ones are Ruto allies - there is no need for serious campaign there - Duale will handle that.
Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2020, 08:27:06 AM »
Seem we are down to influencers? NFD and MATUSA is URP pastoralist zone but not 100%. Now remind us again why most influencers avoid Mobutu - I mean besides governors. Why do Weta, Mdvd distance themselves from Mobutu? Kalonzo? Mutua? Ngilu? Even Kingi or Mvurya avoid Mobutu like the plague. My point being the "issues" of the day are the Maa-Kipsigis variety not "message". 2002 what was the message for example - Uhuru is Moi project :) 2007 41 v 1. 2013 ICC.

NARC "revolution" was tribe on steroids and Wanjiku and Akinyi would pretend they wanted change while voting Kibaki and Raila.

PORK - Kibaki
VP - Wamalwa
2nd VP - Saitoti
3rd VP - Kalonzo :)
PM - Raila
1st DPM - Ngilu
2nd DPM - Kirwa

NARC was BBI.. few years earlier Raila NDP farmer party could not sell past Kavirondo - till trojan revolution. 2007 was worst tribal mayhem. 2013 don't tell us anyone bothered with digital vs analog - voting was strictly tribal. The issue was ICC aka let's save our tribal god.

Simple: if you buy Ndii nonsense that 40% poor back Mobutu - Msambweni should be walk in the park for hustler dog - there are majority poor there like rest of Sub Sahara. There should be little or no Mvurya, Kingi, Joho factors. I mean Mswambweni is a perfect sample of region with weak kingpin. Unlike say Kibra.

If I told you Luos will vote Ruto in any large numbers I would be lying. Tribes matters but only in areas that have strong tribal kingpin. For now we know Ruto and Raila have their home- base covered and are front runners for that reason. Anybody else need to do their homework. Well, we are all watching GEMA moves. So far it look likely a divided house. Like Luhyas. Then you go for small tribes or large tribes without unity of purpose - then you'll go influencers - and the dynamics of the day. Avoid over-analyzing dead woods - for example assembling Gideon and Isaac Ruto will not make any dent on Ruto numbers in RV. Be aware of new issues and new players. For example I told you in Meru - why you're focussed on Kiraitu and Munya - Mwangaza might be underground causing a storm. Matiangi is definitely a new player in Gusii - Raila propped him but he will eat Raila's lunch - and Ruto will probably get his part. Mijikenda - watch Kingi - there is a storm underground in Kilifi - and Joho might find himself with Mombasa alone -if Jicho Pevu doesn't take it. Maa are in a fix - as they try to wade off kispigis expansion in Narok - they have needed Raila and Uhuru in their fight - but historically kalenjin and maa are close...and Ruto will carry the day if Narok is handed over to them - especially the most voluble ole kina. Somalis and related - those ones are Ruto allies - there is no need for serious campaign there - Duale will handle that.
Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)
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Re: 'Hustler' – Title or name, it is working for DP Ruto
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2020, 08:46:13 AM »
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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Hustler | Definition of Hustler at Dictionary.com

Most regime changing elections are won against the norm  , do you remember 2002 and 2013 elections ?

Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)

Robina , there you go and confirm , you started analyzing politics Max 5 years ago.
I pointed out that regime changing elections deviate from the norm .
In 2002 the deviation from the norm was Mois calculation was by fronting Uhuru he would rally Mt Kenya to vote for him and together with his previous team it would be a quick win . When there was fall out in K.A.N.U. he never anticipated 2 things  first was Raila following and Joining Kibakis team( Wamalwa and Ngilu) and secondly Kalonzo Saitoti ,Awori having the balls to betray him after all he had made them .
So the suprise in 2002 is Raila joining Kibakis team of Wamalwa and Ngilu  .
In 2013  Similarly , 2 Things happened  New Constitution and ICC , UhuRuto ganged up together with Kalonzo to defeat Railas Bomas constitution in Naivasha and come up with a constituion which would disadvantage Raila in  2012 elections , secondly ICC happened and Railas calculation was that it was going to eliminate UhuRuto from 2013 elections . Then Ruto joined Uhuru and still Raila thought Rift Valley wont elect them  ,
Now the deviation in 2022 elections is the thought of Mt Kenya not electing someone not from the region , how wrong you and your ilk are

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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2020, 08:52:58 AM »
Pundit - does Kawira Mwangaza back Hustler or Handshake?
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2020, 08:55:01 AM »
I don't think you understand politics - and it's cycles.  You have a long way to go.

Now is the time for pretenders to the throne to dream. Why would they back anybody at this point of time while they are posturing. When the reality hit them in 2022 - they will abandon their kamikaza runs - and look for the candidate likely to win. Ruto at some point looked like all was set - and then he hit some major headwinds a few months ago with BBI/Uhuru frontal assaults - but now he is back - and is the guy to make deals with.So for now - don't run too fast.  Even Kiunjuri who has a deal with Ruto is "distancing" himself. Because you've to attempt to run to consolidate the little support you can garner - before you to negotiating table and be taken seriously. You need to proof support.

Ruto had a deal with Uhuru way back - but at this point in 2012 - Ruto was running for PORK seriously. Spending millions. Or it seems. The same with 2007 - he was launching his bid in 2005/2006 - knowing fully well - he was aiming for the sun to reach the moon (prime minister).

Now BBI appeals to these guys in the 2nd tier - so they can cut a deal and become PM/DPM - nothing new here - it's always been like that - but if there will be no BBI - the animal is the same (PORK is still pork - and rest are fancy titles) - and they will cut deals for ministers and such positions.

Seem we are down to influencers? NFD is URP pastoralist zone but not 100%. Now remind us again why most influencers avoid Mobutu - I mean besides governors. Why do Weta, Mdvd distance themselves from Mobutu? Kalonzo? Mutua? Ngilu? Even Kingi or Mvurya avoid Mobutu like the plague. My point being the "issues" of the day are the Maa-Kipsigis variety not "message". 2002 what was the message for example - Uhuru is Moi project :) 2007 41 v 1. 2013 ICC.

NARC "revolution" was tribe on steroids and Wanjiku and Akinyi would pretend they wanted change while voting Kibaki and Raila.

PORK - Kibaki
VP - Wamalwa
2nd VP - Saitoti
3rd VP - Kalonzo :)
PM - Raila
1st DPM - Ngilu
2nd DPM - Kirwa

NARC was BBI.. few years earlier Raila NDP farmer party could not sell past Kavirondo - till trojan revolution. 2007 was worst tribal mayhem. 2013 don't tell us anyone bothered with digital vs analog - voting was strictly tribal. The issue was ICC aka let's save our tribal god.

Simple: if you buy Ndii nonsense that 40% poor back Mobutu - Msambweni should be walk in the park for hustler dog - there are majority poor there like rest of Sub Sahara. There should be little or no Mvurya, Kingi, Joho factors. I mean Mswambweni is a perfect sample of region with weak kingpin. Unlike say Kibra.

If I told you Luos will vote Ruto in any large numbers I would be lying. Tribes matters but only in areas that have strong tribal kingpin. For now we know Ruto and Raila have their home- base covered and are front runners for that reason. Anybody else need to do their homework. Well, we are all watching GEMA moves. So far it look likely a divided house. Like Luhyas. Then you go for small tribes or large tribes without unity of purpose - then you'll go influencers - and the dynamics of the day. Avoid over-analyzing dead woods - for example assembling Gideon and Isaac Ruto will not make any dent on Ruto numbers in RV. Be aware of new issues and new players. For example I told you in Meru - why you're focussed on Kiraitu and Munya - Mwangaza might be underground causing a storm. Matiangi is definitely a new player in Gusii - Raila propped him but he will eat Raila's lunch - and Ruto will probably get his part. Mijikenda - watch Kingi - there is a storm underground in Kilifi - and Joho might find himself with Mombasa alone -if Jicho Pevu doesn't take it. Maa are in a fix - as they try to wade off kispigis expansion in Narok - they have needed Raila and Uhuru in their fight - but historically kalenjin and maa are close...and Ruto will carry the day if Narok is handed over to them - especially the most voluble ole kina. Somalis and related - those ones are Ruto allies - there is no need for serious campaign there - Duale will handle that.
Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)

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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2020, 08:58:21 AM »
Ruto has the ground game in GEMA. Anybody who seriously want to play in 2022 has to back Ruto. It's the symbiotic relationship that will probably give us three women governors - in meru, embu and nakuru.

Uhuru is at variance with the ground - and he only has support at 'leadership level' through intimidation & bribery (Raila employ lots of violence to keep Luo elite and ground on a tight leash).

That Uhuru fake support will fizzle out 1) as we approach 2022 and 2) as he becomes lameduck - and people will listen to the ground - even if you send DCI every week - when election time approach - nobody will care - election is the make or break for next 5yrs.

The ground is not easy - don't think because Ruto, Uhuru and Raila did it before - it's easy. Uhuru obviously is going home and is not going to be influential anymore just like Kibaki or Moi.

You and Raila are betting on the WRONG HORSE - a dead retiring horse - will not win you any match.

Mt kenya are looking for a new future - there is power vacuum there - that needs to be filled - Ruto could well temporarily fill it for nature abhors vacuum :).

Maybe the mule - PK - will get some excitement outside Muranga - but so far it's not happening. Every time he appears with Raila - he loses the little support he was about to get :) :). That is how stupid he is. Because if I was him - I'd take kikuyu nationalism - and go real nuts on both Ruto and Raila. But we know PK really doesn't have the IQ for politics - that is why he run against Uhuru :) and then run against Sonko :) - I mean that got to be insane. He had Muranga for taking. Now he'd be a serious candidate for PORK. But now he wants to jump straight from CDF - managing 20m - to managing 4 trillion KSHS budget in 2022.

Show me any idiot like PK - wacha Murathe and brokers wakule pesa ya Sally Kosgey - otherwise the cassanova is no going to compete with Ruto with Phd in science and politics.

The big plan is that deep state machinery will just summon all GEMA leaders to Limuru Conference center and make him their leader - coz he special gift to GEMA from gods :)

That is how he did in Nairobi - last minute - he get lied to - only to be white-washed by insanely popular Sonko - apparently he was just coming to take gema votes and win.

Pundit - does Kawira Mwangaza back Hustler or Handshake?

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Re: 'Hustler' – Title or name, it is working for DP Ruto
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2020, 09:18:20 AM »
That why the dirty job of soiling the term is left to Atwoli - Raila, Uhuru or even Joho will never say that. This copypaste of wikitionary.

Hustler is ok rallying cry - it just can't eclipse tribal DNA.

Kiingereza mingi as Sudi would say. Kiingereza tupu as Prof Lonyanpuo would call it. Will not help you. People know what hustling means. It basically mean that - STRUGGLING.

Hustling - push roughly; jostle;

And that is reality in poverty infested country like Kenya  - most are hustling to survive.

a person who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money; swindler. Informal. an expert gambler or game player who seeks out challengers, especially unsuspecting amateur ones, in order to win money from them: He earned his living as a pool hustler.

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Most regime changing elections are won against the norm  , do you remember 2002 and 2013 elections ?

Tribe beat Class fair & square in 2002, 2007, 2013, 2017. Nothing new under the sun. It is the hustler concept that is unfounded. I mean our very own Pundit has abandoned pseudoscience and established philosophies. That sacrilege :)

Robina , there you go and confirm , you started analyzing politics Max 5 years ago.
I pointed out that regime changing elections deviate from the norm .
In 2002 the deviation from the norm was Mois calculation was by fronting Uhuru he would rally Mt Kenya to vote for him and together with his previous team it would be a quick win . When there was fall out in K.A.N.U. he never anticipated 2 things  first was Raila following and Joining Kibakis team( Wamalwa and Ngilu) and secondly Kalonzo Saitoti ,Awori having the balls to betray him after all he had made them .
So the suprise in 2002 is Raila joining Kibakis team of Wamalwa and Ngilu  .
In 2013  Similarly , 2 Things happened  New Constitution and ICC , UhuRuto ganged up together with Kalonzo to defeat Railas Bomas constitution in Naivasha and come up with a constituion which would disadvantage Raila in  2012 elections , secondly ICC happened and Railas calculation was that it was going to eliminate UhuRuto from 2013 elections . Then Ruto joined Uhuru and still Raila thought Rift Valley wont elect them  ,
Now the deviation in 2022 elections is the thought of Mt Kenya not electing someone not from the region , how wrong you and your ilk are

Perspective, perspective. 2013 key issue was ICC referendum- you attempt to veil this by rehashing all NARA  events. Raila was polling 48% around September 2010 I think 🤔 - for midwifing new katiba - before Ocampo showed up. Mijikenda or Kamba were not keen to assert Mwafrika sovereignty from mzungu kangaroo court. Tribe is the elephant.

2002. Moi messed but if Raila, Kalonzo, Saitoti did not dump Kanu - only Nyeri and maybe Meru would have stuck with Kibaki. Folks vote tribal - ingrained in their DNA for millenia - and sugarcoat it as issues of the day or message.

The main issue in 2022 is not Gema rebellion- that is Tangatanga's dream. Mobutu has been walking on eggs around the mountain and is cutting his losses. He is left with a handful of MPs now. Onto new hustler experiment.

2002 - trojan revolution
2007 - 41 vs 1
2013 - ICC
2017 - 2 minutes of Jubilee fame
2022 - tribe vs class. No Nobel to guess the outcome
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Re: 'Hustler' – Title or name, it is working for DP Ruto
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2020, 09:24:49 AM »
I see a scenario where 2022 there will be no serious campaign - Ruto is sleepwalking to PORK. I don't think Uhuru can sustain a war with Ruto and his own people. He will cut a deal and leave you hanging high and dry. He has 1 more year to loot. Then he will quietly leave Ruto to devour you guys :)

Raila is too weak and will not agree to be anybody kingmakers.

So we will have very weaken Raila versus Ruto.

And Ruto will win by huge margins - mayb 65-70%. Ruto 40% if out of 80% decided voters - according to pollsters. This will be duped the hustler nation revolution.

Perspective, perspective. 2013 key issue was ICC referendum- you attempt to veil this by rehashing all NARA  events. Raila was polling 48% around September 2010 I think 🤔 - for midwifing new katiba - before Ocampo showed up. Mijikenda or Kamba were not keen to assert Mwafrika sovereignty from mzungu kangaroo court. Tribe is the elephant.

2002. Moi messed but if Raila, Kalonzo, Saitoti did not dump Kanu - only Nyeri and maybe Meru would have stuck with Kibaki. Folks vote tribal - ingrained in their DNA for millenia - and sugarcoat it as issues of the day or message.

The main issue in 2022 is not Gema rebellion- that is Tangatanga's dream. Mobutu has been walking on eggs around the mountain and is cutting his losses. He is left with a handful of MPs now. Onto new hustler experiment.

2002 - trojan revolution
2007 - 41 vs 1
2013 - ICC
2017 - 2 minutes of Jubilee fame
2022 - tribe vs class. No Nobel to guess the outcome