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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2020, 04:55:20 PM »
Partly true. I have even seen Kalejin chokoras in Nairobi. In the past chokoras in Nairobi were 90% Kikuyu and 10% Luo. Now Kalejins are in the mix.

Not anymore - kalenjin are now hustling - in towns.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2020, 05:00:02 PM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

There no tribe called Kalenjin. We have Nandis, Pokot, Tugen etc ,,Kikuyus is the only stand alone tribe that has a massive population that no other tribe will catch up to

Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga and Kiambu could be thought of as separate tribes in a federation also. Kikuyus are bunched in a small geographical area while Kalenjins are dispersed. But let not truth get in the way of tribal propaganda.

Kikuyu are only Nyeri, Murang'a, etc internally - to everyone else including Meru they are just Kikuyu. To Kalenjin, Luo, etc they are solid GEMA block. Not even Kirinyaga or Mbeere can cut any deal on their own. I see desperate Pundit inventing "Diaspora GEMA" clan :) - a brand new bridge by the hawker from Nanyuki. Kikuyu alone are in Central proper, Nairobi, Machakos, Kajiado, Narok, Nakuru, Kericho, Uasin Gishu, Laikipia, even Samburu, Lamu, Mombasa. Enough to provoke savages there. Meru are in Isiolo.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2020, 05:08:42 PM »
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What do you smoke? Kikuyus are one monolithic  homogeneous  tribe. There is a big difference of a tugen  and a Nandi.  Moi created the kalenjin to compete with kikuyus. Everyone is reacting due to kikuyu numbers  domination. This couple with financial muscle kikuyus can rule Kenya till 2060

So why do Kirinyaga want to be out of Kikuyu and join Embu? You have no financial muscle, you have been busy looting the state since independence. Wahindis are the real financial muscle without government patronage or stealing.

If government looting was the source we would have become poorer during moi time

You did become poorer, Kibaki's tenure was when they had to reboot the plunder on grand scale. That was when you the Mwirarias, the Murungarus and the like. Real wealth creation is beyond your scope and probably most mwafrika. Graft, malfeasance, corruption is wealth destruction, robbing Paul to pay Peter scheme.

Yes - Kikuyu are not "an enterprise" but thieves. They are leeches using their numbers to rob other tribes.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2020, 05:17:49 PM »
Why are you spreading hatred about a hard working people like Mathira MP, Rigathi Gachagua? :D

Yes - Kikuyu are not "an enterprise" but thieves. They are leeches using their numbers to rob other tribes.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2020, 05:19:58 PM »
When did Luos overtake kalenjin and luhya...who died.

Propaganda. What matters is voter turnout. Luhya are the 2nd largest tribe but when it comes out to voting Kambas overtake them .hence the reason Musalia and Mudavadi cant be DP candidates.

Also cohesiveness. Kalenjin and GEMA vote together- Mdvd got 4% Maragoli in 2013 - Bukusu backed Raila.  Only Muliro, Shikuku and Wamalwa nearly roped in most Luhya clans. Kombo and Weta are the most useless of the lot - Kombo killed FORD K when he lost most Bukusu to Raila in 2007.
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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2020, 06:01:34 PM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

There no tribe called Kalenjin. We have Nandis, Pokot, Tugen etc ,,Kikuyus is the only stand alone tribe that has a massive population that no other tribe will catch up to

Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga and Kiambu could be thought of as separate tribes in a federation also. Kikuyus are bunched in a small geographical area while Kalenjins are dispersed. But let not truth get in the way of tribal propaganda.

Kikuyu are only Nyeri, Murang'a, etc internally - to everyone else including Meru they are just Kikuyu. To Kalenjin, Luo, etc they are solid GEMA block. Not even Kirinyaga or Mbeere can cut any deal on their own. I see desperate Pundit inventing "Diaspora GEMA" clan :) - a brand new bridge by the hawker from Nanyuki. Kikuyu alone are in Central proper, Nairobi, Machakos, Kajiado, Narok, Nakuru, Kericho, Uasin Gishu, Laikipia, even Samburu, Lamu, Mombasa. Enough to provoke savages there. Meru are in Isiolo.
Merus are in Isiolo as its historically been that way part of land lived and CLAIMED by Merus for centuries.Even Mps form Isiolo north used to be Merus before other kabilas ganged up to kick us out. Merus control isiolo town business wise almost exclusively, wabera and burat are exclusive Meru so as the southern parts of town. I know boranas and other kabilas have their own versions, its very contested and thats why isiolo is always unstable, take for instance isiolo airport half in isiolo rest in Meru, 78 batallion etc infact as you enter isiolo coming from Nairobi the east part of town is in Meru county, with conflicts major one being 2015 again samburus, turkanas, somalis, borana ganged up against amerus only KDF stepped in to stop the war from getting out of hand. Where my land is in kambi juu is half meru then rest isiolo.
All said reason am writing is for you NOT to think for a single minute that merus are visitors in Isiolo like the way you saying about kikuyu diaspora. Isiolo to us Merus is just part of our land by birth and inheritance for centuries.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2020, 05:57:11 AM »
2009 - Kalenjin were 4.9m - kikuyus 6.6M - 1.7m
2019 - Kalenjin are 6.3m - kikuyus are 8.1 - 1.8m
So Kikuyu population seem to have magically grown - Dr Zach Mwangi and Uhuru cooked census. When Ruto does the 2029 census we will overtake kikuyus.

It obvious 2019 census was cooked when Kikuyus figured out their propaganda about one shilling one vote had no data basis.

Kalenjins have a lot of children that is the only explanation..anyway there is no kaelnjins ..Nandi wako among others

There no tribe called Kalenjin. We have Nandis, Pokot, Tugen etc ,,Kikuyus is the only stand alone tribe that has a massive population that no other tribe will catch up to

Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga and Kiambu could be thought of as separate tribes in a federation also. Kikuyus are bunched in a small geographical area while Kalenjins are dispersed. But let not truth get in the way of tribal propaganda.


Tiga mucene.

Wi na muhahi muingi muno.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2020, 05:58:59 AM »
Why are you spreading hatred about a hard working people like Mathira MP, Rigathi Gachagua? :D

Yes - Kikuyu are not "an enterprise" but thieves. They are leeches using their numbers to rob other tribes.


......and other hard workers like Waluke and Wakhungu and Rebecca Nabutola and Peris Simam.

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Re: Voter roll by tribe-GEMA tyranny
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2020, 06:17:13 AM »

Tiga mucene.

Wi na muhahi muingi muno.

Tf is he talking about ? Someone translate this vernacular.
Sleep is good, death is better; but of course, The best would be never to have been born at all.