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Ruto Greed brought him all this problems
« on: May 16, 2020, 01:45:50 PM »
If Ruto would not have sent his son to steal at DOD he would still be working with Uhuru. The handover would be just a formality. One thing is that the corruption and pure looting by ruto in the 5 years rattled a lot of GEMA oligarchs. They leaned on Uhuru to crackdown on the wanton looting. The military saw it as an opportunity to reclaim their budget from Executive meddling. Now it looks like Uhuru is operating like an Army General. He has handled Nairobi to the military and in NIS military guys are still calling shots

Uhuru 2.0 is ruling with an iron fist. He wants to secure his family and other businessmen for a lifetime. Ruto should just run and hope that by 2027 the tide will be on his side

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 02:19:40 PM »
Hizo ni lame excuse. Both sides were busy stealing. It's just the usual GEMA envy when they realize like in Moi/Biwott case - that Kalenjin elite can steal everything and pretend to go to church :). Ruto stole from everywhere - because he knew Uhuru might do what he is doing now. For Ruto, if he get a window of opportunity, he maximize because you can lose power tomorrow. So the man worked gov red phone.

Uhuru certainly began 2017 with determination to rule with iron-fist. He has treated everybody shabbily - parliament, judiciary and executive. It's either his way or the highway. This I believe he is doing because of the term limit - he simply is showing his true colours and want to rule like Jomo Kenytata.

If Ruto would not have sent his son to steal at DOD he would still be working with Uhuru. The handover would be just a formality. One thing is that the corruption and pure looting by ruto in the 5 years rattled a lot of GEMA oligarchs. They leaned on Uhuru to crackdown on the wanton looting. The military saw it as an opportunity to reclaim their budget from Executive meddling. Now it looks like Uhuru is operating like an Army General. He has handled Nairobi to the military and in NIS military guys are still calling shots

Uhuru 2.0 is ruling with an iron fist. He wants to secure his family and other businessmen for a lifetime. Ruto should just run and hope that by 2027 the tide will be on his side

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Re: Ruto Greed brought him all this problems
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2020, 06:07:43 AM »
Everyone on the Ruto’s side of the coalition were gouging themselves so much that the country was on its knees. Uhuru saw what was happening especially after the kimwarer dam where money was exchanged between a briefcase Italian company and Ruto guys and decided enough is enough, he decided to preserve his legacy. For me, Kikuyus and Kalenjins have had their chance, they have completely ruined Kenya and turned it into a shithole. It’s time for other tribes and especially Luos to be given a chance to try. If I were a Luo, I would not accept any other outcome come 2022. I think Uhuru and Ruto are both holding their cards close to their chest, Uhuru has an advantage here with state machinery. Ruto may not be charged in court but his thieving ways will start leaking at calculated times. What we know are just rumors and bar talk, when documents start leaking, Kenyans are in for a huge shock.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2020, 08:57:28 AM »
Was it not greed that brought Kenyatta family their wealth. They went into even poaching killing elephants herds for ivory, mama ngina is well documented for doing this.
What we don't want is for Uhuru to think he is holy because we will bring him to earth with his so called state machinery

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 11:28:26 AM »
The more wealthy; the more greedy; so Kenyatta's and Mois are the biggest thieves. That corruption card was already played and it didn't work. Now the card being played is Ruto is disrespectful and full of hubris.
Was it not greed that brought Kenyatta family their wealth. They went into even poaching killing elephants herds for ivory, mama ngina is well documented for doing this.
What we don't want is for Uhuru to think he is holy because we will bring him to earth with his so called state machinery

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2020, 11:55:05 AM »
You have to give it to Uhuru and most of the GEMA billionaire thugs - Their ability to sell Mr. Cleans narratives is amazing for decades. And their audacity to lecture others on wealth accumulation.

Hizo ni lame excuse. Both sides were busy stealing. It's just the usual GEMA envy when they realize like in Moi/Biwott case - that Kalenjin elite can steal everything and pretend to go to church :). Ruto stole from everywhere - because he knew Uhuru might do what he is doing now. For Ruto, if he get a window of opportunity, he maximize because you can lose power tomorrow. So the man worked gov red phone.

Uhuru certainly began 2017 with determination to rule with iron-fist. He has treated everybody shabbily - parliament, judiciary and executive. It's either his way or the highway. This I believe he is doing because of the term limit - he simply is showing his true colours and want to rule like Jomo Kenytata.

If Ruto would not have sent his son to steal at DOD he would still be working with Uhuru. The handover would be just a formality. One thing is that the corruption and pure looting by ruto in the 5 years rattled a lot of GEMA oligarchs. They leaned on Uhuru to crackdown on the wanton looting. The military saw it as an opportunity to reclaim their budget from Executive meddling. Now it looks like Uhuru is operating like an Army General. He has handled Nairobi to the military and in NIS military guys are still calling shots

Uhuru 2.0 is ruling with an iron fist. He wants to secure his family and other businessmen for a lifetime. Ruto should just run and hope that by 2027 the tide will be on his side
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 12:03:42 PM »
All top dogs are big thieves but William Ruto is exceptional. The shameless thug cart hard currency fwaa like Moi - harambees and bloodmoney everywhere. Now every Kipyegon, Njuguna and Kaime know hard work doesn’t pay. Leadership is topmost symbolism and what the youth see they apply. So being less wealthy- or less greedy :) - means nothing while the Gospel of Sleaze spread ala COVID-19. Ruto amefunza vijana wizi- he is nothing like Kenyatta or Odinga. He is Moi with a PhD in corruption. Shameless looting and pouring money seem to be Kalenjin cultural problem. Moi used to carry loot in the old Merc and give school kids if they sing Baba Nyayo - EXACTLY LIKE RUTO. Gema oligarchs are thieves but mean as rock - Kibaki bro was dirt poor- which in this case is a positive.

Ruto does not sue any Kamanda for libel not because he is afraid or lacks evidence; he is not insulted that they call him a thief. It a badge of honor. He says Jesus will judge Raila harshly for being so mean.

Ruto even shamelessly says graft does not affect the economy - Pundit’s dodgy “OUTPUTS” - which is cringeworthy nonsense. Graft causes a gazillion non-economic problems in society especially if insidious. Any “leader” corrupting all and sundry including the youth and the church - claiming to invest in heaven - is akin to the Snake in the Garden of Kenya. We need to chop the head off while Wanjiku has a modicum of innocence. Uhuru & Raila are patriots for doing this.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2020, 12:29:46 PM »
Just admit your hatred for Ruto is personal. And we really cannot solve your personal beef. Here we try to be a little objective. Ruto is not first one to use money - heck 90% of our politicians use money. Raila is more likely to use propaganda, violence and intimidation against his opponent than money. There are folks like Sonko and Ruto - plus Moi - who use the money to project an image of compassion. GEMA elites are insular because they are the majority - as long as you've cornered GEMA you start at nearly 30% of the vote. So they don't have to really campaign outside Gema. They only need to corner GEMA and cut deals.

Corruption is a reality of our under-development.

There is no better thief. I thief doesn't become better if like Mama Ngina they become tight-fisted. That is BOLLOX. Mama Ngina will prefer to pay Ruto or Raila a big cheque while Ruto will use 1B in 5yrs to hold harambees and use it as an opportunity to endear to himself. Raila will attend funerals and rallies instead.

Even class 1 debating class cannot say thief A is better than thief B. That only Robina can say.

Our political class do not go into politics for anything - but MONEY MONEY. Those that get out of power soon become BROKE.

It's called rent-seeking and it's part of our under-development - just like petty crimes are part of our lives - while in your neighborhood you can leave your door open.

Corruption has been shown to eventually go away 'almost' on it's on as country develop and more opportunities for honest living become available - altering the risk-reward matrix.
It is almost naive to imagine we can elect non-thieving political class in Kenya or a less thieving. Uhuru took 30-50B Kshs from one deal - and yet Mama Ngina owns Kenya.

Therefore corruption allegations (unless one has been proven guilty and jailed) is non-issue - we need to hold our leaders to other standards! Because they are all very corrupt and we have no evidence - so we can as well ask what else have they done or will they do for us...and assuming 10% is ceasar tax cut.

All top dogs are big thieves but William Ruto is exceptional. The shameless thug cart hard currency fwaa like Moi - harambees and bloodmoney everywhere. Now every Kipyegon, Njuguna and Kaime know hard work doesn’t pay. Leadership is topmost symbolism and what the youth see they apply. So being less wealthy- or less greedy :) - means nothing while the Gospel of Sleaze spread ala COVID-19. Ruto amefunza vijana wizi- he is nothing like Kenyatta or Odinga. He is Moi with a PhD in corruption. Shameless looting and pouring money seem to be Kalenjin cultural problem. Moi used to carry loot in the old Merc and give school kids if they sing Baba Nyayo - EXACTLY LIKE RUTO. Gema oligarchs are thieves but mean as rock - Kibaki bro was dirt poor- which in this case is a positive.

Ruto does not sue any Kamanda for libel not because he is afraid or lacks evidence; he is not insulted that they call him a thief. It a badge of honor. He says Jesus will judge Raila harshly for being so mean.

Ruto even shamelessly says graft does not affect the economy - Pundit’s dodgy “OUTPUTS” - which is cringeworthy nonsense. Graft causes a gazillion non-economic problems in society especially if insidious. Any “leader” corrupting all and sundry including the youth and the church - claiming to invest in heaven - is akin to the Snake in the Garden of Kenya. We need to chop the head off while Wanjiku has a modicum of innocence. Uhuru & Raila are patriots for doing this.

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Re: Ruto Greed brought him all this problems
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2020, 12:55:26 PM »
The ' hard work does not pay' is not Ruto's doing. This is old as mankind just that poets want to make it evil which we can blow away.  Take slaves building America, Australia, New Zealand?? What do they have to show apart from whips - their descendants are still being dropped of the streets!! Partition of Africa?? - How hard did the mzung work for The White Highlands farms??  Todays wage inequalities even where you work??

You confuse graft, crime for incompetence. Sicilian mafia are efficient as hell. Likes of the Kenyattas and Odingas are incompetent reason they have to use brute force like their mbeberu benefactors. Patriots for holding millions at ransom for 5 decades?? By the time we are done with then Moi will be looking like a saint.

All top dogs are big thieves but William Ruto is exceptional. The shameless thug cart hard currency fwaa like Moi - harambees and bloodmoney everywhere. Now every Kipyegon, Njuguna and Kaime know hard work doesn’t pay. Leadership is topmost symbolism and what the youth see they apply. So being less wealthy- or less greedy :) - means nothing while the Gospel of Sleaze spread ala COVID-19. Ruto amefunza vijana wizi- he is nothing like Kenyatta or Odinga. He is Moi with a PhD in corruption. Shameless looting and pouring money seem to be Kalenjin cultural problem. Moi used to carry loot in the old Merc and give school kids if they sing Baba Nyayo - EXACTLY LIKE RUTO. Gema oligarchs are thieves but mean as rock - Kibaki bro was dirt poor- which in this case is a positive.

Ruto does not sue any Kamanda for libel not because he is afraid or lacks evidence; he is not insulted that they call him a thief. It a badge of honor. He says Jesus will judge Raila harshly for being so mean.

Ruto even shamelessly says graft does not affect the economy - Pundit’s dodgy “OUTPUTS” - which is cringeworthy nonsense. Graft causes a gazillion non-economic problems in society especially if insidious. Any “leader” corrupting all and sundry including the youth and the church - claiming to invest in heaven - is akin to the Snake in the Garden of Kenya. We need to chop the head off while Wanjiku has a modicum of innocence. Uhuru & Raila are patriots for doing this.
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Re: Ruto Greed brought him all this problems
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2020, 06:23:46 PM »
Just admit your hatred for Ruto is personal. And we really cannot solve your personal beef. Here we try to be a little objective. Ruto is not first one to use money - heck 90% of our politicians use money. Raila is more likely to use propaganda, violence and intimidation against his opponent than money. There are folks like Sonko and Ruto - plus Moi - who use the money to project an image of compassion. GEMA elites are insular because they are the majority - as long as you've cornered GEMA you start at nearly 30% of the vote. So they don't have to really campaign outside Gema. They only need to corner GEMA and cut deals.

Corruption is a reality of our under-development.

There is no better thief. I thief doesn't become better if like Mama Ngina they become tight-fisted. That is BOLLOX. Mama Ngina will prefer to pay Ruto or Raila a big cheque while Ruto will use 1B in 5yrs to hold harambees and use it as an opportunity to endear to himself. Raila will attend funerals and rallies instead.

Even class 1 debating class cannot say thief A is better than thief B. That only Robina can say.

Our political class do not go into politics for anything - but MONEY MONEY. Those that get out of power soon become BROKE.

It's called rent-seeking and it's part of our under-development - just like petty crimes are part of our lives - while in your neighborhood you can leave your door open.

Corruption has been shown to eventually go away 'almost' on it's on as country develop and more opportunities for honest living become available - altering the risk-reward matrix.
It is almost naive to imagine we can elect non-thieving political class in Kenya or a less thieving. Uhuru took 30-50B Kshs from one deal - and yet Mama Ngina owns Kenya.

Therefore corruption allegations (unless one has been proven guilty and jailed) is non-issue - we need to hold our leaders to other standards! Because they are all very corrupt and we have no evidence - so we can as well ask what else have they done or will they do for us...and assuming 10% is ceasar tax cut.

All top dogs are big thieves but William Ruto is exceptional. The shameless thug cart hard currency fwaa like Moi - harambees and bloodmoney everywhere. Now every Kipyegon, Njuguna and Kaime know hard work doesn’t pay. Leadership is topmost symbolism and what the youth see they apply. So being less wealthy- or less greedy :) - means nothing while the Gospel of Sleaze spread ala COVID-19. Ruto amefunza vijana wizi- he is nothing like Kenyatta or Odinga. He is Moi with a PhD in corruption. Shameless looting and pouring money seem to be Kalenjin cultural problem. Moi used to carry loot in the old Merc and give school kids if they sing Baba Nyayo - EXACTLY LIKE RUTO. Gema oligarchs are thieves but mean as rock - Kibaki bro was dirt poor- which in this case is a positive.

Ruto does not sue any Kamanda for libel not because he is afraid or lacks evidence; he is not insulted that they call him a thief. It a badge of honor. He says Jesus will judge Raila harshly for being so mean.

Ruto even shamelessly says graft does not affect the economy - Pundit’s dodgy “OUTPUTS” - which is cringeworthy nonsense. Graft causes a gazillion non-economic problems in society especially if insidious. Any “leader” corrupting all and sundry including the youth and the church - claiming to invest in heaven - is akin to the Snake in the Garden of Kenya. We need to chop the head off while Wanjiku has a modicum of innocence. Uhuru & Raila are patriots for doing this.

Ruto is a Trump version in Kenya. He is ruthless and he thinks that laws are there for the regular guy. It reminds me of the uncle in the movie "Lion King". Destructive and uses the law to hunt and kill all enemies, imagined or otherwise. Like Trump, he thinks he is entitled to the seat and will use all means necessary to achieve his goals. He has no knowledge of policy, except talk and hold endless rallies that do not amount to any long term benefit. And you, and his followers only see the "imaginary good" that is in him. Like Trumps COVID, All I see in Ruto is corruption. Who the hell builds a 2 billion shilling house in a country where 90% have no running water,??.

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2020, 06:38:15 PM »
Nonsense. Ruto has Phd in science. He has a stellar career in parliament. He has a stellar career in gov and has been voted one most effective if not hardworking ministers - including being allowed to sit in Cabinet despite being an Ass Minister in Moi cabinet. When he was running jubilee - you saw Jubilee do lots of many things. When it come to politics - Ruto orator skills, propaganda skills, and strategy is par excellence. That is why Ruto is the youngest in the serious candidates of 2022 - despite coming from a humble background.

Kenya has many great policy wonks - what misses are people like Ruto, Michuki, Nyachaes - who knows how to move gov - a gov in 3rd world country is not easy to move. You need very strong characters like Ruto with singular determination to get shiet done once they have made their mind.

Uhuru alone with Big 4 agenda is a BIG FLOP. He has no energy for follow up. He has no energy to get things done. How many houses out of the 500,000 he promises will he deliver?. God help him if he manages 1,000 units :(

Trump is a political flop like Obama - those are one night wonders - Ruto has stellar political career lasting nearly 30yrs now - and he is just 55 yrs.


Ruto is a Trump version in Kenya. He is ruthless and he thinks that laws are there for the regular guy. It reminds me of the uncle in the movie "Lion King". Destructive and uses the law to hunt and kill all enemies, imagined or otherwise. Like Trump, he thinks he is entitled to the seat and will use all means necessary to achieve his goals. He has no knowledge of policy, except talk and hold endless rallies that do not amount to any long term benefit. And you, and his followers only see the "imaginary good" that is in him. Like Trumps COVID, All I see in Ruto is corruption. Who the hell builds a 2 billion shilling house in a country where 90% have no running water,??.


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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2020, 07:43:30 PM »
Haha how will you “be done with them” while you are already wailing so loudly. Ruto and Tangatanga are not the first victims of GoK - they have merely replaced ODM as makelele team. Mnalia mapema sana - kindly allow us to savor this- wait for the actual dog-beating you rent the air with tunaonewa.

The ' hard work does not pay' is not Ruto's doing. This is old as mankind just that poets want to make it evil which we can blow away.  Take slaves building America, Australia, New Zealand?? What do they have to show apart from whips - their descendants are still being dropped of the streets!! Partition of Africa?? - How hard did the mzung work for The White Highlands farms??  Todays wage inequalities even where you work??

You confuse graft, crime for incompetence. Sicilian mafia are efficient as hell. Likes of the Kenyattas and Odingas are incompetent reason they have to use brute force like their mbeberu benefactors. Patriots for holding millions at ransom for 5 decades?? By the time we are done with then Moi will be looking like a saint.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2020, 07:58:21 PM »
These Tangatanga people are comical- you would think democracy and rule of law have just been invented. They need to hold demos about IEBC first - and face Kibicho mboys and teargas. Then they may have some credibility to lecture about Uhuru dictatorship. Now it a crybaby choir of democracy freeloaders... They are even whining about new coalition yet they DISSOLVED 11 parties to form Jubilee. 8) 8) NASA and Kanu are merely a coalition not new house of cards like Ruto’s Jubilee.

Ruto is a Trump version in Kenya. He is ruthless and he thinks that laws are there for the regular guy. It reminds me of the uncle in the movie "Lion King". Destructive and uses the law to hunt and kill all enemies, imagined or otherwise. Like Trump, he thinks he is entitled to the seat and will use all means necessary to achieve his goals. He has no knowledge of policy, except talk and hold endless rallies that do not amount to any long term benefit. And you, and his followers only see the "imaginary good" that is in him. Like Trumps COVID, All I see in Ruto is corruption. Who the hell builds a 2 billion shilling house in a country where 90% have no running water,??.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2020, 09:10:05 PM »
Its amazing how pundit cannot see through the fact that the toxic political divisive environment that the hate filled boisterous and chest-thumping kikuyu/kalenji coalition created was unsustainable. Nipate.Com was a microcosm of the country and just like nipate.com died the Ouruto coalition could barely last 5years before it totally collapsed as unsustainable.    Ruto had to steal a lot of money to sustain that kind of unstable political environment and it is the stealing its self was not sustainable.  Ruto did not have to steal so much if he spent more time reducing the political temperature in the country by designing a more inclusive coalition which included Raila. Ouru was brought to it yelling and screaming by our foreign benefactors who showed him real intelligence of where the country was headed.  They were right. Immediately after the handshake, the political temperature in the country went down by almost 100 points overnight. Ruto is too hot headed, arrogant and egoistic to realize that his greed and  ambitions are unattainable.  He needs to swallow his pride and go back to the drawing board. This country has tasted both the politically unstable Kikuyu/Kalenjin coalition and the handshake politics.  It appears the country likes the stability of the  handshake politics. Its not perfect but its much better than Nipate.Com Kenya that Ruto wanted to create.


Nonsense. Ruto has Phd in science. He has a stellar career in parliament. He has a stellar career in gov and has been voted one most effective if not hardworking ministers - including being allowed to sit in Cabinet despite being an Ass Minister in Moi cabinet. When he was running jubilee - you saw Jubilee do lots of many things. When it come to politics - Ruto orator skills, propaganda skills, and strategy is par excellence. That is why Ruto is the youngest in the serious candidates of 2022 - despite coming from a humble background.

Kenya has many great policy wonks - what misses are people like Ruto, Michuki, Nyachaes - who knows how to move gov - a gov in 3rd world country is not easy to move. You need very strong characters like Ruto with singular determination to get shiet done once they have made their mind.

Uhuru alone with Big 4 agenda is a BIG FLOP. He has no energy for follow up. He has no energy to get things done. How many houses out of the 500,000 he promises will he deliver?. God help him if he manages 1,000 units :(

Trump is a political flop like Obama - those are one night wonders - Ruto has stellar political career lasting nearly 30yrs now - and he is just 55 yrs.


Ruto is a Trump version in Kenya. He is ruthless and he thinks that laws are there for the regular guy. It reminds me of the uncle in the movie "Lion King". Destructive and uses the law to hunt and kill all enemies, imagined or otherwise. Like Trump, he thinks he is entitled to the seat and will use all means necessary to achieve his goals. He has no knowledge of policy, except talk and hold endless rallies that do not amount to any long term benefit. And you, and his followers only see the "imaginary good" that is in him. Like Trumps COVID, All I see in Ruto is corruption. Who the hell builds a 2 billion shilling house in a country where 90% have no running water,??.

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2020, 09:24:18 PM »
Where were you when Ruto was facing teargas in 1999 - in UDM - with Kirwa, late Kapten and others - trying to reform KANU from within? Where were you when Ruto was leading onslaught against Kibaki in KANU in 2003-2005 before Raila joined in 2005. Ruto even spent  a weekend in jail. Where were you when Ruto was facing gov from that period till 2008 NARA?  Where were you when Ruto was facing ICC charges in 2010-2015?

The only person new in politics is you.

We have seen Kibaki, Uhuru and name them - in opposition - turn to gov and think they were born there. We have seen Moi in gov - and Moi in opposition.

This is just normal life.

Why ODM want to make themselves special is beyond me.

These Tangatanga people are comical- you would think democracy and rule of law have just been invented. They need to hold demos about IEBC first - and face Kibicho mboys and teargas. Then they may have some credibility to lecture about Uhuru dictatorship. Now it a crybaby choir of democracy freeloaders... They are even whining about new coalition yet they DISSOLVED 11 parties to form Jubilee. 8) 8) NASA and Kanu are merely a coalition not new house of cards like Ruto’s Jubilee.

Ruto is a Trump version in Kenya. He is ruthless and he thinks that laws are there for the regular guy. It reminds me of the uncle in the movie "Lion King". Destructive and uses the law to hunt and kill all enemies, imagined or otherwise. Like Trump, he thinks he is entitled to the seat and will use all means necessary to achieve his goals. He has no knowledge of policy, except talk and hold endless rallies that do not amount to any long term benefit. And you, and his followers only see the "imaginary good" that is in him. Like Trumps COVID, All I see in Ruto is corruption. Who the hell builds a 2 billion shilling house in a country where 90% have no running water,??.

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2020, 09:29:07 PM »
Nice story as always Kichwa but you're no capable of beating GEMA machine. You're going into the 10-20th time since 1963. You let Ruto win this - but if GEMA truly wants Raila - Ruto will not stand - but will support Raila. But are you really capable of playing GEMA games :) :). Evidence suggests NOT.

Ruto has the GEMA ground - like nobody else has ever had outside GEMA - and that is causing a lot of tensions.

At end of the day - it simple choice - Raila or Ruto -  and GEMA will choose.

They can of course try someone else like Kalonzo or their own or even GIDEON MOI :)

The ball is on GEMA playfield. They give Raila a thro' ball - Raila scores. They give Ruto a through ball- Ruto scores. They play rough - it becomes rough.

Its amazing how pundit cannot see through the fact that the toxic political divisive environment that the hate filled boisterous and chest-thumping kikuyu/kalenji coalition created was unsustainable. Nipate.Com was a microcosm of the country and just like nipate.com died the Ouruto coalition could barely last 5years before it totally collapsed as unsustainable.    Ruto had to steal a lot of money to sustain that kind of unstable political environment and it is the stealing its self was not sustainable.  Ruto did not have to steal so much if he spent more time reducing the political temperature in the country by designing a more inclusive coalition which included Raila. Ouru was brought to it yelling and screaming by our foreign benefactors who showed him real intelligence of where the country was headed.  They were right. Immediately after the handshake, the political temperature in the country went down by almost 100 points overnight. Ruto is too hot headed, arrogant and egoistic to realize that his greed and  ambitions are unattainable.  He needs to swallow his pride and go back to the drawing board. This country has tasted both the politically unstable Kikuyu/Kalenjin coalition and the handshake politics.  It appears the country likes the stability of the  handshake politics. Its not perfect but its much better than Nipate.Com Kenya that Ruto wanted to create.

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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2020, 11:51:02 PM »

We beat Gema twice, in 2007 and 2013 but they stole the votes.  We are past that.  Beating Gema or Kalenjin is not our ultimate goal.  We are trying to figure out a formula where the critical pieces of our Kenyan society  feels they have a stake in the government. Ruto and a segment of Gema that are yet to get this through their thick skulls are a minority. A very important segment of Gema, Luos, Kalenjins, Luhyias, are starting to understand that the politics of trying to beat Gema's or luos, Kalenjins is not working.  The BBI is an attempt at inclusive.  We have to find a homegrown formula to how we design our democracy.

Nice story as always Kichwa but you're no capable of beating GEMA machine. You're going into the 10-20th time since 1963. You let Ruto win this - but if GEMA truly wants Raila - Ruto will not stand - but will support Raila. But are you really capable of playing GEMA games :) :). Evidence suggests NOT.

Ruto has the GEMA ground - like nobody else has ever had outside GEMA - and that is causing a lot of tensions.

At end of the day - it simple choice - Raila or Ruto -  and GEMA will choose.

They can of course try someone else like Kalonzo or their own or even GIDEON MOI :)

The ball is on GEMA playfield. They give Raila a thro' ball - Raila scores. They give Ruto a through ball- Ruto scores. They play rough - it becomes rough.

Its amazing how pundit cannot see through the fact that the toxic political divisive environment that the hate filled boisterous and chest-thumping kikuyu/kalenji coalition created was unsustainable. Nipate.Com was a microcosm of the country and just like nipate.com died the Ouruto coalition could barely last 5years before it totally collapsed as unsustainable.    Ruto had to steal a lot of money to sustain that kind of unstable political environment and it is the stealing its self was not sustainable.  Ruto did not have to steal so much if he spent more time reducing the political temperature in the country by designing a more inclusive coalition which included Raila. Ouru was brought to it yelling and screaming by our foreign benefactors who showed him real intelligence of where the country was headed.  They were right. Immediately after the handshake, the political temperature in the country went down by almost 100 points overnight. Ruto is too hot headed, arrogant and egoistic to realize that his greed and  ambitions are unattainable.  He needs to swallow his pride and go back to the drawing board. This country has tasted both the politically unstable Kikuyu/Kalenjin coalition and the handshake politics.  It appears the country likes the stability of the  handshake politics. Its not perfect but its much better than Nipate.Com Kenya that Ruto wanted to create.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2020, 12:12:40 AM »
Nice story as always Kichwa but you're no capable of beating GEMA machine. You're going into the 10-20th time since 1963. You let Ruto win this - but if GEMA truly wants Raila - Ruto will not stand - but will support Raila. But are you really capable of playing GEMA games :) :). Evidence suggests NOT.

Ruto has the GEMA ground - like nobody else has ever had outside GEMA - and that is causing a lot of tensions.

At end of the day - it simple choice - Raila or Ruto -  and GEMA will choose.

They can of course try someone else like Kalonzo or their own or even GIDEON MOI :)

The ball is on GEMA playfield. They give Raila a thro' ball - Raila scores. They give Ruto a through ball- Ruto scores. They play rough - it becomes rough.

Its amazing how pundit cannot see through the fact that the toxic political divisive environment that the hate filled boisterous and chest-thumping kikuyu/kalenji coalition created was unsustainable. Nipate.Com was a microcosm of the country and just like nipate.com died the Ouruto coalition could barely last 5years before it totally collapsed as unsustainable.    Ruto had to steal a lot of money to sustain that kind of unstable political environment and it is the stealing its self was not sustainable.  Ruto did not have to steal so much if he spent more time reducing the political temperature in the country by designing a more inclusive coalition which included Raila. Ouru was brought to it yelling and screaming by our foreign benefactors who showed him real intelligence of where the country was headed.  They were right. Immediately after the handshake, the political temperature in the country went down by almost 100 points overnight. Ruto is too hot headed, arrogant and egoistic to realize that his greed and  ambitions are unattainable.  He needs to swallow his pride and go back to the drawing board. This country has tasted both the politically unstable Kikuyu/Kalenjin coalition and the handshake politics.  It appears the country likes the stability of the  handshake politics. Its not perfect but its much better than Nipate.Com Kenya that Ruto wanted to create.

All I hear you talk about is Ruto this and that and ....
I have not seen any good policy that has come out of the man's office despite being in highest office for ten years plus. All I see is Ruto raising his profile for the next job, eve though he has not done anything. How about raising the profile of the regular guy?  All the Mathare slum people are our people, and giving them a chance in life is all they ask for. A society is always rated on how well it treats the weakest members within it. How I miss the old days of Shikuku, when fairness was the order of the day. Most politicians are all for their pockets,. Slash MPs pay to reflect the country's standing.

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2020, 05:44:37 AM »
Good jokes here from CORD blogger

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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2020, 08:38:25 AM »
Sound like Robina has a mate.
Good jokes here from CORD blogger

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