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NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« on: July 08, 2017, 06:17:03 AM »
Such a young person to die suddenly..
What a loss for Kenya...
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Joseph-Nkaissery-dead-Nairobi/1056-4005822-4ooa2v/index.html

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2017, 11:05:57 AM »
He wasn't young. Must have been a sudden heart attack

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 11:53:01 AM »
He was most likely finished. Probably refused to play ball of sorts.

He wasn't young. Must have been a sudden heart attack
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 12:12:23 PM »
In the absence of all else, it could've been viral myocarditis.

Confession: I had that not too long ago and nearly died from a heart attack.

If anyone doesn't feel well. Please immediately take Tamiflu- because it's likely a H1N1 strain.

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 01:35:47 PM »
Shocking; must be heart attack.

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2017, 02:07:38 PM »
We cannot rule anything out at this point. 


Shocking; must be heart attack.
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2017, 03:07:08 PM »
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He was as late as 9.30 last night discussing issues pertaining to peace, unity in Kenya with President Uhuru Kenyatta.

Who buys this?

"Discussing issues pertaining to peace"

Yeh right likely threats and blackmail.

Can anyone confirm whether he was planning to ditch blaa for NAsA ?

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Nkaisserys-death-What-we-know-so-far/1056-4005828-ppc88o/index.html

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2017, 03:19:48 PM »
How can uhuru appoint someone even before a burial takes place?
It shows lack of concern for the family and his community
A week is not long to wait.

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2017, 03:46:50 PM »

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 04:43:48 PM »
I don't understand how such rich people only go for "checkup" when they are dying.  I literally can't.
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 06:36:58 PM »
The information doing rounds on social media is that Nkaissery was informed he would be fired on Monday and Matiangi interviewed for his job. Stupid of Uhuru not to know that the Interior CS has more access to intelligence than President.

He tried to go to State House to plead and no information if he entered. It is believed he was not allowed in. He tried to meet Uhuru at Uhuru park during saba saba but his security would not allow the Maa close enough.

He then knew it was all over. At Uhuru Park, there are photos of him fraternizing with his former ODM people - but his Jubilee folks seem to have got orders to isolate him. He even hi-fived Kidero and others. He is supposed to have been waiting for his car to go home.

Apparently he developed difficulties either on the way or at home and had to be rushed to Karen hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. The story about him having gone to the hospital for a check up, got admitted and then died is an Itumbi, Manoa Esipisu crap that will haunt them for ever. The state cannot tell a single lie about the death of a VIP. Better shut up - like Moi seemed to ignore the death of his pimp - Echakara when his dick was cut off by Moi's other Ugandan friend and owner of Mugoya. When the state tells a lie, it gives fodder to conspiracy theories.

Am I saying he was killed by Jubilee as the latest theory goes? No. I think nobody can be that stupid.

I think he became a victim of a vicious rumor perhaps by a cartel that needs to vacuum clean his ministry before elections. Interior is the best placed to be in transition and elections! The budget is unlimited and no controls because you can even lock up the Auditor General accusing him of endangering national security and no newspaper would dare publish!

Otherwise I think it was a heart attack - the massive type. A massive attack better get you inside a ICU where you will have 50% chance of recovery. The chances become 0 the moment it takes 10 minutes to get you hooked on those things. I have witnessed a few of these while in Europe at a time when there was an epidemic and I never saw anybody attacked at home or office survive.

Lastly, Nkaissery had dictatorial tendencies and his rhetoric would have seen Kenya get in to a real war. Like any tyrant, he is loved by his family and close friends but cause fear in the entire country - even from those who share his political views.

He broke the law with impunity campaignbing for Jubilee and issuinbg partisan edicts and decrees directed at the opposition at exacvtlxy the time his neutrality or appearance of it was most needed. He simply trashed the fact that ministers were not supposed to participate in partisan politics.

He issued threats to opposition figures and purported to issue orders to the police - something he cannot legally do. His role is limited to policy and cannot be likened to that of the DPP under the constitution. He was a man who did not unbderstand the law and whenever he did, chose to disagree with its provisions about his role.

He pushed for the Draconian Security Laws that saw the courts strike out a host of them. He nevertheless continued to act as if those laws were not struck down.

I think he was put in place for his rhetoric and willingness to allow Kikuyu cartels to steal without abandon. They have now identified another useful idiot in the name of Matiang'i to facilitate their midnight robbery of the state as we proceed to elections.
 
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 08:37:57 PM »
Looks like I have to eat my words (above) in a hurry.

What the doctors are saying is simple:

1. It was NOT a heart attack
2. He did not go for a check up
3. He arrived already dead
4. Wife says he was fine by the time he went to bed at 11Pm
5. Cannot rule out poisoning

If he had used viagra, the symptoms would be consistent with a heart attack. That is ruled out.

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Karen Hospital has ruled out any possibilities of heart attack as the cause of CS Nkaissery's death.

A senior manager at the hospital told the Star on Saturday that doctors who received the late have every reason to believe it was not a heart attack.

The manager who sought anonymity said by the time the Nkaisserry arrived at the hospital he was already dead.

He further dismissed claims that the late had driven himself to the hospital for check up terming the claims as mere rumors.

"The doctors received the late at around 1am and he was already dead. Since our profession does not allow doctors to assume, they run all the emergency procedures amid efforts to resuscitate him but unfortunately he was already past that," the manager said.

The source further said in doctors assessment Nkaissery had no signs of sickness.

Asked if it was poisoning, the manager said, "Doctors will not look foolish to say it was poisoning or heart attack only for postmortem to say otherwise".

In their quest to establish what might have transpired, the manager said even his wife confirmed that the late CS had no signs of sickness.

"The doctors tried to interrogate her wife but she said the late arrived in the house at around 10pm. Had a little conversation and planned that they would leave the house at around 9am the following day for usual activities before they retired to bed at 11pm," he said.

The source said, Nkaisserry 67, was brought at the hospital in company of his wife, security and two friends whom the wife said had spent the entire day together.

Dectives have so far commenced investigations into the sudden death.

The officers have cordoned off the CS's Nairobi home in Hardy, Karen estate and Bomas of Kenya.

The two places are being swept clean seeking to collect any evidence that may be linked to his death.

Read:Police cordon Nkaissery's home, Bomas of Kenya as probe begins

Nkaissery served in the military for 29 years where he ascended to the rank of Major General before he joined politics in 2002.

In November 2014, President Uhuru Kenyatta appointed Nkaissery as Interior CS to replace Joseph Lenku who was sacked for failing to secure the country following two massacres by the al Shabaab.

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 08:48:37 PM »
Follow the money...internal docket is the main bastion of kick backs and all kind of corruption, main generator of campaign funds for the government in power and the main fulcrum
for rigging.

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 08:59:12 PM »
Follow the money...internal docket is the main bastion of kick backs and all kind of corruption, main generator of campaign funds for the government in power and the main fulcrum
for rigging.

He is the Third Internal Security Minister with Maa connection to die in or out of office.
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 09:08:50 PM »
The information doing rounds on social media is that Nkaissery was informed he would be fired on Monday and Matiangi interviewed for his job. Stupid of Uhuru not to know that the Interior CS has more access to intelligence than President.

He tried to go to State House to plead and no information if he entered. It is believed he was not allowed in. He tried to meet Uhuru at Uhuru park during saba saba but his security would not allow the Maa close enough.

He then knew it was all over. At Uhuru Park, there are photos of him fraternizing with his former ODM people - but his Jubilee folks seem to have got orders to isolate him. He even hi-fived Kidero and others. He is supposed to have been waiting for his car to go home.

Apparently he developed difficulties either on the way or at home and had to be rushed to Karen hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. The story about him having gone to the hospital for a check up, got admitted and then died is an Itumbi, Manoa Esipisu crap that will haunt them for ever. The state cannot tell a single lie about the death of a VIP. Better shut up - like Moi seemed to ignore the death of his pimp - Echakara when his dick was cut off by Moi's other Ugandan friend and owner of Mugoya. When the state tells a lie, it gives fodder to conspiracy theories.

Am I saying he was killed by Jubilee as the latest theory goes? No. I think nobody can be that stupid.

I think he became a victim of a vicious rumor perhaps by a cartel that needs to vacuum clean his ministry before elections. Interior is the best placed to be in transition and elections! The budget is unlimited and no controls because you can even lock up the Auditor General accusing him of endangering national security and no newspaper would dare publish!

Otherwise I think it was a heart attack - the massive type. A massive attack better get you inside a ICU where you will have 50% chance of recovery. The chances become 0 the moment it takes 10 minutes to get you hooked on those things. I have witnessed a few of these while in Europe at a time when there was an epidemic and I never saw anybody attacked at home or office survive.

Lastly, Nkaissery had dictatorial tendencies and his rhetoric would have seen Kenya get in to a real war. Like any tyrant, he is loved by his family and close friends but cause fear in the entire country - even from those who share his political views.

He broke the law with impunity campaignbing for Jubilee and issuinbg partisan edicts and decrees directed at the opposition at exacvtlxy the time his neutrality or appearance of it was most needed. He simply trashed the fact that ministers were not supposed to participate in partisan politics.

He issued threats to opposition figures and purported to issue orders to the police - something he cannot legally do. His role is limited to policy and cannot be likened to that of the DPP under the constitution. He was a man who did not unbderstand the law and whenever he did, chose to disagree with its provisions about his role.

He pushed for the Draconian Security Laws that saw the courts strike out a host of them. He nevertheless continued to act as if those laws were not struck down.

I think he was put in place for his rhetoric and willingness to allow Kikuyu cartels to steal without abandon. They have now identified another useful idiot in the name of Matiang'i to facilitate their midnight robbery of the state as we proceed to elections.
 

Bullshiet, lets see between NASWA and JP who makes the most and best of his death.
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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 09:14:19 PM »

Precisely...............Internal security PS is the man to watch heading to the elections, remember kimemia in 2013....Uhuruto always wanted a weak CS in this docket so they could skim all deals. detectives should look at all payments made from this ministry in the last 90 days and also deals pending payment.


Follow the money...internal docket is the main bastion of kick backs and all kind of corruption, main generator of campaign funds for the government in power and the main fulcrum
for rigging.

He is the Third Internal Security Minister with Maa connection to die in or out of office.

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Re: NKAISSERY is Dead!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2017, 09:40:49 PM »
The only poison I know the tt can kill that quickly is a choline based poison used in surgery. It has to be injected though.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2017, 09:49:27 PM »
unless you have full timeline of his movement through out the day then its difficult to rule out poisoning through ingestion.  How difficult is it to obtain his medical records?
NASA principals should beef up their security as we get down to the home stretch.


The only poison I know the tt can kill that quickly is a choline based poison used in surgery. It has to be injected though.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2017, 10:05:44 PM »
. If its intestinal poisoning you'll see lots of vomiting as the body tries to get rid of the poison even hours post death.
Looks like police were notified of a murder, so they cordoned off all areas they know he visited.




unless you have full timeline of his movement through out the day then its difficult to rule out poisoning through ingestion.  How difficult is it to obtain his medical records?
NASA principals should beef up their security as we get down to the home stretch.


The only poison I know the tt can kill that quickly is a choline based poison used in surgery. It has to be injected though.