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Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« on: June 28, 2020, 10:51:03 AM »
https://www.the-star.co.ke/siasa/2020-06-28-ruto-backed-raila-presidency-solution-to-our-woes/
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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 11:13:28 AM »
Let them all go to ballot and have numbers separate them they Raila,Kalonzo did in 2007.from there someone will sober up.Kalonzo once thought he was more popular than Raila.he has never regained his footing since then.Omwenga is just right.

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 11:20:04 AM »
Silent threat to Uhuru. If Ruto is taken through that Assets Recovery he can think about it to get back at Uhuru/Gema!
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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 01:01:52 PM »
Omwenga ni chizi. I once met on the plane to Nairobi and he was asking every Kenya about BBI - and drinking himself silly.

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2020, 01:05:18 PM »
Ruto has gone for elections - 2010 for referendum - and 2013 with URP. URP had 72mps. TNA 85mps and ODM 95mps. Remember that. In 2017 if you recall ODM numbers went down to 62mps. Jubilee numbers went up from that 137 to 170 - with new numbers attributable to Ruto.

Now 2022 - we shall see Ruto-MK - possibly maDVD/anybody else coalition - versus Raila-Waiguru- Joho - versus Kalonzo - versus Wa-Iria or peter Kenneth versus -Gideon Moi coalition.


Let them all go to ballot and have numbers separate them they Raila,Kalonzo did in 2007.from there someone will sober up.Kalonzo once thought he was more popular than Raila.he has never regained his footing since then.Omwenga is just right.

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 10:15:57 PM »
https://www.the-star.co.ke/siasa/2020-06-28-ruto-backed-raila-presidency-solution-to-our-woes/

You know that has always been the plan . DIvide Jubilee and in the process form a coalition with former members of Jubilee.

Raila.managed that in 2002 and 2007 .and you know what theKANUs  Presidential candidate in 2002 was Uhuru and in Kanus chairman in 2007 was Uhuru.
In 2013 amd 2027 Ruto was in control of Jubilee coalition and Jubilee and he seems to have read the signs as early as 2018 recheck his interviews. So higly unlikely for Omerngas wishes to succeed

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2020, 11:59:22 PM »
In 2013 there was no Jubilee coalition.
One cannot control something that does not exist.

You know that has always been the plan . DIvide Jubilee and in the process form a coalition with former members of Jubilee.

Raila.managed that in 2002 and 2007 .and you know what theKANUs  Presidential candidate in 2002 was Uhuru and in Kanus chairman in 2007 was Uhuru.
In 2013 amd 2027 Ruto was in control of Jubilee coalition and Jubilee and he seems to have read the signs as early as 2018 recheck his interviews. So higly unlikely for Omerngas wishes to succeed

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 01:32:16 AM »
In 2013 there was no Jubilee coalition.
One cannot control something that does not exist.

You know that has always been the plan . DIvide Jubilee and in the process form a coalition with former members of Jubilee.

Raila.managed that in 2002 and 2007 .and you know what theKANUs  Presidential candidate in 2002 was Uhuru and in Kanus chairman in 2007 was Uhuru.
In 2013 amd 2027 Ruto was in control of Jubilee coalition and Jubilee and he seems to have read the signs as early as 2018 recheck his interviews. So higly unlikely for Omerngas wishes to succeed

TNA & URP was Jubilee Coalition...

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 08:11:48 AM »
If i was baba i would demand gatheca tosha me now otherwise this is a game of chicken how can he keep almost a dozen men guessing and tje position that matters is only 1,Omwenga even though gullible has a point but in that event Raira has to Tosha Ruto for Pork and he gets PM. If raira was wise he would pact today with Hustler for a powerful PM post, otherwise gatheca is doing what he does best screw.

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 02:01:52 PM »
Mobutu has never swam against the system tide - just as he has never fought for anything - he has been a freeloader. 2013 he had Gema backing to contain Raila. 2017 he had machinery. His own show first time and despite the hubris and chest thumping about "numbers" we can see he is no match for machinery. Now Tangatanga has new riddle - kitendawili :) - about "ground". PK is the stooge by many indicators but we shall see in reshuffle soon. Ruto with MK pimp party is going nowhere.

Raila of course is tried and tested... survivor per excellence. Mobutu use donkey work heavy lifting to build mega Jubilee - Raila pull trojan as grenade or demolition machine- to tumble the house of cards. Now with Uhuru machinery...

Really objectively: Ruto always had the machinery on his side - 2002, 2013, 2017 - Raila the opposite side. Roles are reversed now. Who has the vantage point?

Ruto has gone for elections - 2010 for referendum - and 2013 with URP. URP had 72mps. TNA 85mps and ODM 95mps. Remember that. In 2017 if you recall ODM numbers went down to 62mps. Jubilee numbers went up from that 137 to 170 - with new numbers attributable to Ruto.

Now 2022 - we shall see Ruto-MK - possibly maDVD/anybody else coalition - versus Raila-Waiguru- Joho - versus Kalonzo - versus Wa-Iria or peter Kenneth versus -Gideon Moi coalition.


Let them all go to ballot and have numbers separate them they Raila,Kalonzo did in 2007.from there someone will sober up.Kalonzo once thought he was more popular than Raila.he has never regained his footing since then.Omwenga is just right.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 03:45:21 PM »
Machinery ni nini in 2020. This is not 1990. Moi by 2002 had all machinery and still lost very badly.  Machinery or Deep state ni nani? Kibicho? or who? or NSIS.

1)Police/Prov administration is not going to help you with politics - unless you re-enact the chief act of Moi that requires asking permission to hold a political rally.
2) Mainstream media has been replaced by social media. Leave the days of KBC monopoly
3) Political financing - gov doesn't have a monopoly over money.

Not even Kibaki rigging of 2007 is possible now because results are transmitted per polling station - so no way to rig const tallies.

Elections will be determined by tribal maths. We don't know how GEMA tribal math will look like but rest we can already figure it out. Once it's clear how GEMA will go - we will have opinion polls and etc - we can call it.

And then IEBC will do the usual and Judiciary the same.



Mobutu has never swam against the system tide - just as he has never fought for anything - he has been a freeloader. 2013 he had Gema backing to contain Raila. 2017 he had machinery. His own show first time and despite the hubris and chest thumping about "numbers" we can see he is no match for machinery. Now Tangatanga has new riddle - kitendawili :) - about "ground". PK is the stooge by many indicators but we shall see in reshuffle soon. Ruto with MK pimp party is going nowhere.

Raila of course is tried and tested... survivor per excellence. Mobutu use donkey work heavy lifting to build mega Jubilee - Raila pull trojan as grenade or demolition machine- to tumble the house of cards. Now with Uhuru machinery...

Really objectively: Ruto always had the machinery on his side - 2002, 2013, 2017 - Raila the opposite side. Roles are reversed now. Who has the vantage point?

Ruto has gone for elections - 2010 for referendum - and 2013 with URP. URP had 72mps. TNA 85mps and ODM 95mps. Remember that. In 2017 if you recall ODM numbers went down to 62mps. Jubilee numbers went up from that 137 to 170 - with new numbers attributable to Ruto.

Now 2022 - we shall see Ruto-MK - possibly maDVD/anybody else coalition - versus Raila-Waiguru- Joho - versus Kalonzo - versus Wa-Iria or peter Kenneth versus -Gideon Moi coalition.


Let them all go to ballot and have numbers separate them they Raila,Kalonzo did in 2007.from there someone will sober up.Kalonzo once thought he was more popular than Raila.he has never regained his footing since then.Omwenga is just right.

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 05:25:49 PM »
"Deep State" you invented yourselves Tangatanga to sustain Uhurutopia fiction. Poor Nancy Jezebel is long forgotten as the fiction implode live on TV. Machinery is real - it the President's coercive powers:

1. Machinery coerced SCORK to allow 2017 rerun - they brazenly EJK'd Mwilu driver; Maraga is still paying for his cardinal sin
2. Kibra rout was aided by police looking the other way as Barasas, Khalwales got roughed up
3. Waititu was hanged by machinery selective anti- graft; other governors have been faithfully lined up in Handshake since
4. Jubilee & parliament rout is machinery as court orders get ignored; Lusaka got a mere phone call to endorse new lineup
5. Waluke, Gachagua possibly Kuria are facing machinery - KRA, DCI, etc; Ngunjiris long lost bodyguards and firearms; Duale is lying low as an envelope
6. Waiguru is scot- free...

any more questions?

Machinery ni nini in 2020. This is not 1990. Moi by 2002 had all machinery and still lost very badly.  Machinery or Deep state ni nani? Kibicho? or who? or NSIS.

1)Police/Prov administration is not going to help you with politics - unless you re-enact the chief act of Moi that requires asking permission to hold a political rally.
2) Mainstream media has been replaced by social media. Leave the days of KBC monopoly
3) Political financing - gov doesn't have a monopoly over money.

Not even Kibaki rigging of 2007 is possible now because results are transmitted per polling station - so no way to rig const tallies.

Elections will be determined by tribal maths. We don't know how GEMA tribal math will look like but rest we can already figure it out. Once it's clear how GEMA will go - we will have opinion polls and etc - we can call it.

And then IEBC will do the usual and Judiciary the same.



Mobutu has never swam against the system tide - just as he has never fought for anything - he has been a freeloader. 2013 he had Gema backing to contain Raila. 2017 he had machinery. His own show first time and despite the hubris and chest thumping about "numbers" we can see he is no match for machinery. Now Tangatanga has new riddle - kitendawili :) - about "ground". PK is the stooge by many indicators but we shall see in reshuffle soon. Ruto with MK pimp party is going nowhere.

Raila of course is tried and tested... survivor per excellence. Mobutu use donkey work heavy lifting to build mega Jubilee - Raila pull trojan as grenade or demolition machine- to tumble the house of cards. Now with Uhuru machinery...

Really objectively: Ruto always had the machinery on his side - 2002, 2013, 2017 - Raila the opposite side. Roles are reversed now. Who has the vantage point?

Ruto has gone for elections - 2010 for referendum - and 2013 with URP. URP had 72mps. TNA 85mps and ODM 95mps. Remember that. In 2017 if you recall ODM numbers went down to 62mps. Jubilee numbers went up from that 137 to 170 - with new numbers attributable to Ruto.

Now 2022 - we shall see Ruto-MK - possibly maDVD/anybody else coalition - versus Raila-Waiguru- Joho - versus Kalonzo - versus Wa-Iria or peter Kenneth versus -Gideon Moi coalition.


Let them all go to ballot and have numbers separate them they Raila,Kalonzo did in 2007.from there someone will sober up.Kalonzo once thought he was more popular than Raila.he has never regained his footing since then.Omwenga is just right.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Fake pundit Sam Omwenga think Ruto may step down for Raila
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2020, 05:33:43 PM »
I agree GEMA is up in the air but nothing stop us from reading signs. If Uhuru want PK as stooge - all influencer Kabogos, Kiraitus will be in high gear to back him. He will be elevated to face of many projects and goodies. As MK sell his bridge.

Non- GEMA of course we know how it stands. Ruto is trying something in Coast and Luhya - for the upteenth time - 2 years to D-day. How is it going?
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527