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Moment of Truth for Rawal
« on: June 14, 2016, 03:49:37 PM »
Ongoing. Ibrahim reading what I think is a majority decision. But... I have to wait. too much noise in the over-filled chamber

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 04:02:47 PM »
I think they'll let the lower court decision to stand. In any case the supreme court need to be reconstituted afresh.

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 04:35:39 PM »
Ibrahim recuses himself. No quorum

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 05:02:20 PM »
Ibrahim recuses himself. No quorum
What does that mean, do they go home or do they serve till 74?

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 05:08:55 PM »
Ojwang supports Rawal, sets aside C.J's orders.

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 05:12:04 PM »
We are still listening for surprises. However it is clear that with Ibrahim having recused himself, the appeal cannot be heard by this bench. What I need to hear from CJ and Smokin is whether the date of hearing is returned to the 27th.

I think Ojwang is naturalist :D
Ibrahim recuses himself. No quorum
What does that mean, do they go home or do they serve till 74?

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2016, 05:23:13 PM »
Interesting. So we might have 2-2. That leaves a hung supreme court.

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 05:26:22 PM »
Interesting. So we might have 2-2. That leaves a hung supreme court.
Once one judge recused himself there can be no SCK decision as the minimum number of judges for quorum is 5

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016, 05:35:23 PM »
Indeed. What if Rawal doesn't recluse herself from her case :)
Once one judge recused himself there can be no SCK decision as the minimum number of judges for quorum is 5

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2016, 05:48:56 PM »
Indeed. What if Rawal doesn't recluse herself from her case :)
Once one judge recused himself there can be no SCK decision as the minimum number of judges for quorum is 5
Is that even possible? Si someone will just rush to court and try to force her to disqualify herself. I think Mutunga will extend his stay

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 05:50:38 PM »
Yeah the failed Dr Mutunga will most likely rethink his decision to retire. He is basically leaving a judiciary without a head. It a rudder less mess. I pray we expend the same energy on it like we do on IEBC.
Is that even possible? Si someone will just rush to court and try to force her to disqualify herself. I think Mutunga will extend his stay

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2016, 06:13:22 PM »
Ojwang is a pompous fart.

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2016, 06:29:47 PM »
For Rawal - Ojwang
Against - Wanjala, Ibrahim,

Remaining - For Rawal - Njoki (obviously)
Remaining - Against - Chief Justice

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2016, 06:57:53 PM »
Like I thought Wanjala recuses himself- but that goes against Rawal

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2016, 07:03:29 PM »
Supreme Court.  A perfectly great institution.  Filled with the same type of jokers that have rendered emasculated every institution in the country.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2016, 08:45:48 PM »
Njoki has a serious problem:
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Njoki Ndungu holds  that the right to a fair hearing is due to an individual  not a government institution like JSC

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2016, 09:01:42 PM »
The idea of everyone reading their ruling is terrible for optics.  They should have had a final ruling.  And then each would be given a chance to read their dissenting or consenting opinion.
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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2016, 10:36:13 PM »
Good riddance to "Lady Justice" Pest.  Deft handing by Dr. Studs.
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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2016, 11:02:22 PM »
Good riddance to "Lady Justice" Pest.  Deft handing by Dr. Studs.
To me the killer was for Rawal to hurriedly ask her counsel to ask for a 21 day stay.  :D :D

I laughed when the Mullah retorted: What is there to stay? Muite goes in the very unlikely event that her appeal succeeds, she would be entitled to damages.

Nowrjee: Counsel has suggested that damages be paid...
Muite (Interrupting): I did not suggest... I submitted

Clearly 7 hours going in to the 8th had taken the toll on everybody.

Omtata "loudly" fell asleep prompting the CJ to wake him up when his lonely "consultations" threatened to disrupt. Gatonye listened with his eyes closed.

Njoki exposed herself as intellectually weak. My fears that she lacked the muscle to be on the bench were proven and the earlier she vacates the better. She has been heavily criticized by the majority even though she got support from Ojwang who is campaigning for the CJ post and had to defecate on himself and foam around the mouth Chief Nanga style doing it. If it were a decent country she would resign. But this is Kenya.

For the first time I was able to see Smokin Wanjala in his element. He is clearly C.J Material. Ibrahim is rather weak. However all indications are that it will be Ibrahim. He will start acting from Thursday and it is impossible to deny him the job as he will be the incumbent.

I hope Justice Mumbi Ngugi will apply for the DCJ. She is highly qualified but I fear the hyenas want someone with a clear tribal identity. She is above tribe as Odunga and Lenaola are. Except she has more balls than those two.

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Re: Moment of Truth for Rawal
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2016, 11:35:12 PM »
Where can I find the proceedings as they happened?
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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