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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2016, 09:56:25 PM »
Pundit,
yes trump is uncoventional, however, he wont be able to win in a General election. He lacks the depth and coalition to do so. In USA there are all sort of looney predictions like the one that predicted that Rommney would beat Obama by over 200 delegates. Stupid Karl Rove had pegged his hope on "white working Class" in Ohio to beat Obama. One thing Trump needs is the American women, without them he is going to lose. it was the white American women that made Obama first terms elections become a cake walk. once the women crossed over it became easier for Obama using Biden to convince the white male.

One thing I know is that once a married guy wife picks a candidate it becomes almost automatic that the husband will eventually vote for the wife's candidate.

Trump has to win it in convention. he was to fight ove Cruz and Kasich.

Hillary so far got this in her purse she can even become so bold and pick Elizabeth Warren as her VP just to make sure that her lock on Women vote and Ultra Liberals is tight

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #62 on: March 17, 2016, 10:39:12 PM »
They been there alright, but never this energized. Now they've got their own in Trump. And they are turning in record numbers including democracts and independent leaning redneck for The Donald Tramp.

If you look at record turn out of these guys in primaries and in rallies, you should be very worried, that the real majority, the america white non-college graduate working class are intend on voting trump.

Bottomline; every election has it's dynamic. If somebody said Obama would win in 08, he would have been laughed off. Now it's Trump time.

It obvious Trump has a clear path to victory, carry all the white majority states in the south, mid-west, upper and rust belt...and it going to be easy considering Hillary is struggling with same demographisc..and all tramp need is record turn out of white working class folks and few sanders democrats & independents...who do not trust Hillary.

You should read What's the matter with Kansas?.  In there you will find the Trumpoid.  There is a misleading narrative that they have just walked out of the woodwork because of Trump.  They have been there all along, emphatically voting against their interests, in the belief that they are denying black people welfare and government programs. 

Trump, with his birther credentials, has merely woken them up from this stupidity and now they don't need the Republican establishment or so they think.  But who else will join them?  That is Trump's dilemma.
Yes, there are dynamics by which Trump, based on white votes, can win.  US politics are interesting with many possibilities and forces in play.  But I still think the angry white working class approach is far-fetched. 

It comes down to the dynamic I mention earlier, where this white vote is in Blue states and must somehow overcome its usual percentages, enough to tip some delegate rich blue states to Republican.  But it assumes that the anti-trump voters are not as energized to stop him.

Union workers, in the industrial Midwest are notoriously difficult to turn against Democrats; they vote like Luos on automatic for Raila.  And they turn out to protect their turf; Trump can only count on this demographic in a fantastic way.  They will not fall for his anti-establishment appeal.

In 08 Obama had an advantage among young white voters who voted in unprecedented numbers; most of this group, by its nature, the most anti-trump (matched only by Hispanics), is now in the Sandernista column; you saw some of them in Chicago; they can be energized to turn out just to stop Trump.  While there might be some convergence in the anti-establishment bent, everything else shows Trump can never count on Bernie Sanders supporters and liberals in general.

He obviously has the South locked down; likely the delegate poor heartland too, minus Iowa.  Indiana is not far-fetched; he should get that one.  Ohio there is a question-mark.  He could not crack it against Kasich in a primary.  It's the most important swing state in play and Kasich's win there suggests no appetite for an insurgency.

He cannot win Minnesota.  Wisconsin, is usually a good Republican state mid-terms, but terrible in the general; he might entertain some ideas but not anymore than any regular Republican.  He needs the Industrial Midwest and some more.  The point is Trump is viewed negatively enough by independents to the point that Rubio and Ted Cruz would actually fair better in a general; curiously the same thing actually applies to Hillary too..
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2016, 07:51:23 PM »
Clinton and Trump are interesting in the sense that they are the two most polarizing candidates in this campaign.  Despite Trump's own negative perceptions, she only beats him by narrow margins in the polls. 

Even those sympathetic to a female President, balk as soon as they encounter Hillary in person.  She has a caustic personality.  She is unpleasant to be around especially when she is talking.  She is not above playing the dirty games such as the race card she played against Obama in 2008.  Not to mention she is a foreign policy hawk on a scale that would make Dick Cheney blush.

Clinton represents the establishment's last tenuous hold on the status quo.  2016 is one of the elections in which a third or fourth candidate can cause a real upheaval.  Leading to a situation where no candidate gets 270.

I have no personal preference between her and Trump.  Still her path to the White House is easier than Trump's, even if she represents his best chance of winning it all.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2016, 07:56:02 AM »
The worst for me is Ted Cruz. The moron is George Bush reincarnate. Trump is an okay liberal guy who is just racist.
Clinton and Trump are interesting in the sense that they are the two most polarizing candidates in this campaign.  Despite Trump's own negative perceptions, she only beats him by narrow margins in the polls. 

Even those sympathetic to a female President, balk as soon as they encounter Hillary in person.  She has a caustic personality.  She is unpleasant to be around especially when she is talking.  She is not above playing the dirty games such as the race card she played against Obama in 2008.  Not to mention she is a foreign policy hawk on a scale that would make Dick Cheney blush.

Clinton represents the establishment's last tenuous hold on the status quo.  2016 is one of the elections in which a third or fourth candidate can cause a real upheaval.  Leading to a situation where no candidate gets 270.

I have no personal preference between her and Trump.  Still her path to the White House is easier than Trump's, even if she represents his best chance of winning it all.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2016, 12:10:22 PM »
Bush was never racist nor conservative.  Bush was a screwball like uhuru that got conned by oligarchs led by Cheney. like his dad he should have been one term mistake but moral depravity during Clinton time and foreign policy fuckups by Clinton gave gop an upperhand

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2016, 01:56:05 PM »
With today's Brussels attacks, possibility of Donald being the president is significantly raised.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2016, 04:04:07 PM »
With today's Brussels attacks, possibility of Donald being the president is significantly raised.

Doubtful. In the very short term, maybe a bit of traction, just like with the Paris attacks last November.

The elections are in November. Of course Trump will milk it as much as he can but there's still some way to go.

Incidentally, the closer the election date nears, it seems that more and more people are now seriously contemplating a Trump presidency and they don't like what they see (see the Brandon Stanton article I posted earlier above). Trump and his hardcore supporters are basically attacking everyone, even Republicans, who don't buy into their BS. I won't be surprised if the voter turnout in November will surpass the 2008 elections, not for the support of the Democratic hopeful, but to block Trump.


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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2016, 04:04:50 PM »
Yeah. Bush like Ted Cruz is actually dumb and stupid with really insane ideas that they believe in. Trump I think is bright guy who understands that he is just acting up for the " I love the poorly educated" white middle class to take him to POTUS. Folks who watched Trump's The Apprentice knows he is very smart and decisive dude.
Bush was never racist nor conservative.  Bush was a screwball like uhuru that got conned by oligarchs led by Cheney. like his dad he should have been one term mistake but moral depravity during Clinton time and foreign policy fuckups by Clinton gave gop an upperhand

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2016, 08:48:51 PM »
Brussels attacks just gives Trump hardline stance more credibility. He may end up getting serious boost from this. meanwhile Bengahzi Clinton will be weakened by this.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2016, 01:42:02 PM »
This is Trumps' election to lose given the recent wins by Sanders over Clinton

Not only those who watched, most Kenyans, and by extension African would have died to appear in that show. Trump has just stayed to his element which aptly captures reality on the ground just like our Moses Kurias and Aladwas. They are rich guys who ain't afraid that tribe, race, gender and political correctness nonsense will make them go hungry, lose business and such. I like such guys, and Americans seem to be decided about Trump.

Yeah. Bush like Ted Cruz is actually dumb and stupid with really insane ideas that they believe in. Trump I think is bright guy who understands that he is just acting up for the " I love the poorly educated" white middle class to take him to POTUS. Folks who watched Trump's The Apprentice knows he is very smart and decisive dude.
Bush was never racist nor conservative.  Bush was a screwball like uhuru that got conned by oligarchs led by Cheney. like his dad he should have been one term mistake but moral depravity during Clinton time and foreign policy fuckups by Clinton gave gop an upperhand

Heck, who are Africans to question Trump's presidency yet we are okay with dead logs like Museveni, Mugabe; drug lords; land grabbers, thieves; murderers; and all sort of scum in our political systems.
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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2016, 02:53:54 PM »
Hillary has over pandered to blacks and latino...aka minorities..to the extend she has lost the white vote. This doesn't look good for Hillary. Hillary is running an Obama 3rd term when the USA is ready for change. I think Trump will carry this. No disaster seem to bring him down.
This is Trumps' election to lose given the recent wins by Sanders over Clinton

Not only those who watched, most Kenyans, and by extension African would have died to appear in that show. Trump has just stayed to his element which aptly captures reality on the ground just like our Moses Kurias and Aladwas. They are rich guys who ain't afraid that tribe, race, gender and political correctness nonsense will make them go hungry, lose business and such. I like such guys, and Americans seem to be decided about Trump.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2016, 01:14:54 PM »
Latest national polls shows Trump trailing even in tradional Republican leaning States. The guy has lost the election even before it has started. The GOP leaders have smelt the ratand are all out to stop Trump from getting the party's ticket. Worse for Trump he would loose even worse to Bernie Sanders as to Hillary Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/us/politics/donald-trump-general-election.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2016, 11:37:17 PM »
Trump is Dr Spin, the rhetoric is just for the primary vote which is predominantly white. Consider his deliberate flip flop and vagueness on abortion, gayism, etc, as soon as he lands the GOP ticket he will embrace Trumpcare and equal pay to appease women. His companies have been outed for utilizing cheap immigrant labor, still he will keep up the anti-Mexico, Islamophobe rhetoric to nail the white vote.

The "anti-establishment" candidate  :D :D Ultimate politician.

Hillary struggles even to shift left to deal with Bernieconomics. Considering the change pendulum swinging against her, plus another ISIS attack in London or EU somewhere ... she will have Cameron to console her.


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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #75 on: April 13, 2016, 12:50:38 AM »
Hillary slogan: Fighting for us; Hillary for America

Trump slogan: Make America great again!


It's an Obama vs McCain rematch.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2016, 04:23:53 AM »
apprentice Blacks now are doing a hatchet job on Trump. Kwame Jackson and Pinkett are on CNN trying to Trump the Donald.

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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #77 on: April 18, 2016, 01:57:09 AM »
In other political news: National Black Republican Association endorses Donald J. Trump





http://blackrepublican.blogspot.ca/2016/01/national-black-republican-association.html

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We, the grassroots activists of the National Black Republican Association, are pleased to announce our endorsement of Donald J. Trump for President of the United States of America.

As citizens who happen to be black, we support Mr. Trump because he shares our values. We, like Mr. Trump, are fiscally conservative, steadfastly pro-life and believers in a small government that fosters freedom for individuals and businesses, so they can grow and become prosperous.

We are deeply concerned about illegal immigration, a major cause of high black unemployment, especially among black youth.

Black Americans across America are beginning to wake up and see clearly the reality of what is happening in black neighborhoods. Democrats have run black communities for the past 60 years and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned those communities into economic and social wastelands, witness Detroit, Baltimore and South Chicago.

We believe that Mr. Trump has demonstrated that he can push back against the mainstream media, end political correctness and free black communities from the destructive grip of socialist Democrats.

We urge our fellow black Americans to seize control over their own destiny and leverage their vote the way other groups do. It is way past time black Americans stop having their vote taken for granted by Democrats, hold politicians accountable for the content of their policies and not vote merely based on the label of their party.



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Re: Donald Trump is President Elect of USA. He is going to win very big
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2016, 11:07:34 PM »
Hillary is scary.  She is Dick Cheney in drag.  America needs a leader to normalize its profile in international affairs.  It's too much of a rogue state.
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« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2016, 08:03:07 AM »
Interesting. I don't like Hillary and Ted Cruz. Don't mind Trump either. But Sanders is probably the only guy who can fix some issues America has.
Hillary is scary.  She is Dick Cheney in drag.  America needs a leader to normalize its profile in international affairs.  It's too much of a rogue state.