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Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« on: December 02, 2023, 01:21:38 PM »
 :D :D :D
When you are winning or winding down a war, do you recruit more or less? Not sure who double speaks more Luto or Putin:

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2023, 09:32:48 PM »
You can always quote any credible geopolitical analyst who thinks Russia is losing or Ukraine is winning. Russia has annexed 20% of Ukraine and Putin can sit easy.

Zelensky is kicking and screaming for more weapons but all the West is offering is possible future admission to NATO minus the annexed territory.

Why Nato’s reassurances to Ukraine are starting to ring hollow
NOVEMBER 29 2023
https://www.ft.com/content/f2cfebb4-77c9-490a-ac99-8c16f3385373

Ex-Nato chief proposes Ukraine joins without Russian-occupied territories
11 Nov 2023
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/11/ex-nato-chief-proposes-ukraine-joins-without-russian-occupied-territories

NATO backpedals as Ukraine fumes over land for membership gaffe
AUGUST 16, 2023
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-ukraine-membership-cede-territory-russia/
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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2023, 10:51:54 AM »
Annexed.
It was already annexed by Russian backed rebels before from 2014.
They were held and led by rebels.
Russia paying big prize - including economically for this.
You can always quote any credible geopolitical analyst who thinks Russia is losing or Ukraine is winning. Russia has annexed 20% of Ukraine and Putin can sit easy.

Zelensky is kicking and screaming for more weapons but all the West is offering is possible future admission to NATO minus the annexed territory.

Why Nato’s reassurances to Ukraine are starting to ring hollow
NOVEMBER 29 2023
https://www.ft.com/content/f2cfebb4-77c9-490a-ac99-8c16f3385373

Ex-Nato chief proposes Ukraine joins without Russian-occupied territories
11 Nov 2023
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/11/ex-nato-chief-proposes-ukraine-joins-without-russian-occupied-territories

NATO backpedals as Ukraine fumes over land for membership gaffe
AUGUST 16, 2023
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-ukraine-membership-cede-territory-russia/

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2023, 02:06:06 PM »
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.
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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2023, 03:29:57 PM »
Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2023, 03:08:29 AM »
Most analysts disagree with you.. about war of attrition favoring Zelensky. The consensus is Russia has more men and more weapons - the 2 critical factors in attrition.

We will see.

Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.
I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2023, 03:10:20 AM »
Meantime .. Zelensky says weapons have not arrived despite NATO pledges

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2023, 03:14:12 AM »
RV here is geopolitical pundit explaining why Zelensky and US/NATO are in the sauce

It's an interesting watch, but fwd to 15:55 for attrition-specific

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2023, 11:32:28 AM »
Robina, you do not get it. This is Putin's war and not Zelensky's. Zelensky can go home tomorrow and nobody will disturb him in Ukraine. Can Putin do the same in Russia?

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2023, 05:08:12 PM »

Everyone knows that the so called counteroffensive failed miserably . Its evident that the current scenario favours Russia considerably .
As the elections in U.S, nears you will realise the outcome .
Once Bidden is out next year it will take only 2 days for Ukraine to sign peace agreement with Russia , something the shoild have done without the loss of lives and territory back on Feb 2022.

Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2023, 10:03:07 PM »

Everyone knows that the so called counteroffensive failed miserably . Its evident that the current scenario favours Russia considerably .
As the elections in U.S, nears you will realise the outcome .
Once Bidden is out next year it will take only 2 days for Ukraine to sign peace agreement with Russia , something the shoild have done without the loss of lives and territory back on Feb 2022.

Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.
Which hole do you live in? Trump is heading to jail, not Whitehouse. Even in the unfortunate event, he wins, US policy IS driven by strong and independent institutions. The policy in that direction is always to weaken Russia and build NATO and allies. Russia, 2 years plus later still going toe to toe with tiney UKRAINE speaks volume of NATO power and its support from the periphery. By the way, Russia has lost over 100K troops!
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2023, 10:33:41 PM »


Russia is going toe to toe with NATO . NATO underbelly has been exposed by Russia . This you can see by how other Countries relate to US these days …..


Everyone knows that the so called counteroffensive failed miserably . Its evident that the current scenario favours Russia considerably .
As the elections in U.S, nears you will realise the outcome .
Once Bidden is out next year it will take only 2 days for Ukraine to sign peace agreement with Russia , something the shoild have done without the loss of lives and territory back on Feb 2022.

Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


Quote
The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.
Which hole do you live in? Trump is heading to jail, not Whitehouse. Even in the unfortunate event, he wins, US policy IS driven by strong and independent institutions. The policy in that direction is always to weaken Russia and build NATO and allies. Russia, 2 years plus later still going toe to toe with tiney UKRAINE speaks volume of NATO power and its support from the periphery. By the way, Russia has lost over 100K troops!

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2023, 10:56:53 PM »

Everyone knows that the so called counteroffensive failed miserably . Its evident that the current scenario favours Russia considerably .
As the elections in U.S, nears you will realise the outcome .
Once Bidden is out next year it will take only 2 days for Ukraine to sign peace agreement with Russia , something the shoild have done without the loss of lives and territory back on Feb 2022.

Zeleknsky doesnt need any saving.
This long protracted war.
The winner remain Zelenksy.
Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for a VERY LONG while.
audacity & Pundit where is your confidence NATO can save Zelensky?


Pentagon: US arms industry struggling to keep up with China
12/02/2023 07:54 PM EST
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/02/draft-pentagon-strategy-china-00129764


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The report notes that after the Cold War, the defense industry shrank as companies merged. Yet China has spent the past 30 years becoming a “global industrial powerhouse” in shipbuilding, critical minerals and microelectronics. China’s industry’ “vastly exceeds the capacity of not just the United States, but the combined output of our key European and Asian allies as well,” it says.

The report also points out that the Covid pandemic laid bare the supply chain’s vulnerabilities. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the Hamas attack on Israel “uncovered a different set of industrial demands and corresponding risks” as the U.S. races to produce arms to support Ukraine and Israel.

“It has become clear that insufficient production and supply capacity are now deeply entrenched problems throughout all tiers of production supply chains,” the report says.
Which hole do you live in? Trump is heading to jail, not Whitehouse. Even in the unfortunate event, he wins, US policy IS driven by strong and independent institutions. The policy in that direction is always to weaken Russia and build NATO and allies. Russia, 2 years plus later still going toe to toe with tiney UKRAINE speaks volume of NATO power and its support from the periphery. By the way, Russia has lost over 100K troops!

USA has been severely weakened by Trump. The day he goes down i will celebrate all day and night.
Europe cant even help Ukraine with weapons?? It is in their interest to see a weakened Russia, otherwise expect the same - WARS.

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2023, 11:32:09 PM »
What are you smoking in Nazi Germany??? Zelensky was elected because he had pledged to unite Ukraine and make peace with Russia..thanks to his handler Kolomoisky..but what did he do? 1/2  the population live outside the country as refugee, over 1/2 mlion men killed in action 300k men maimed, 30% country land mass is gone with Russia, in few days Ukraine will be another land locked country. Totally failed state..and all that happened under your watch and you go home to your wife and kids...get real my fren
Robina, you do not get it. This is Putin's war and not Zelensky's. Zelensky can go home tomorrow and nobody will disturb him in Ukraine. Can Putin do the same in Russia?

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2023, 12:25:57 AM »
 The comedian is about to bail out and head to Florida..

     https://www.youtube.com/live/exP48Kebhyc?si=4xrOuVBPaJt1sACz

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2023, 03:52:29 AM »
 Below the grand welcome of Tsar Putin in the UAE. Whatever happened to the pariah 😂

     

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2023, 09:18:32 AM »
Below the grand welcome of Tsar Putin in the UAE. Whatever happened to the pariah 😂

     
A country that 50 years ago (1971) was just sand and camels, no skyscrapers, no infrastructure, no accommodation is making you ejaculate and project Putin as powerful? UAE cannot even subdue the ragtag militia in Yemen called Houthis rebels.
Please address the reason(s) why Putin so flattered himself that he would have lunch in Kyiv in 3 days and yet 655 days later he has not done so despite multiple call up for conscripts....

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2023, 07:18:26 PM »
  You are a victim of mainstream media brain washing. The assessment you made above was made not by Putin but the combined agencies in the US and the EU starting with the CIA and none other than Milley himself briefing Congress about the same. Now if you have cared to read the agreement that had been reached in Turkey, you would clearly see that was not what Russia was aiming to do. The truth is Western hubris has been deflated and unfortunately with it are the economies of the world including our own in Kenya. For every 5 bucks the West spent in Ukraine Russia only spent a dollar. The results are 38k proven Russian deaths vs a few hundred thousand Ukrainian soldiers.If you think that is winning then you need a brain transplant my fren.

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Re: Robina, Day 647 of Putin's 3 day war!
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2023, 12:03:27 PM »
  You are a victim of mainstream media brain washing. The assessment you made above was made not by Putin but the combined agencies in the US and the EU starting with the CIA and none other than Milley himself briefing Congress about the same. Now if you have cared to read the agreement that had been reached in Turkey, you would clearly see that was not what Russia was aiming to do. The truth is Western hubris has been deflated and unfortunately with it are the economies of the world including our own in Kenya. For every 5 bucks the West spent in Ukraine Russia only spent a dollar. The results are 38k proven Russian deaths vs a few hundred thousand Ukrainian soldiers.If you think that is winning then you need a brain transplant my fren.

You are right arguments about Ukraine split into 2 schools of thought

1. Putin is an imperialist with Soviet empire nostalgia who wants to concur Europe starting with Ukraine and Poland

2. US elites are imperialist and want to expand NATO to encircle Russia and China despite any treaties or logic

audacityofhopelessness is in 1 and you are in 2. Almost irreconcilable.
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I desire to go to hell and not to heaven. In the former place I shall enjoy the company of popes, kings, and princes, while in the latter are only beggars, monks, and apostles. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli on his deathbed, June 1527