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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2023, 10:55:37 PM »
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He can avoid death by retiring and pickin a succesor.

lol that's like saying Ghaddafi or saddam hussein could have avoided death. No.

Putin is now fighting for his life. There's no way out but death for him and he knows it.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2023, 12:07:31 AM »
The height of Putins popularity was during crisis particularly Chechnya war which made him the President ,Crimea rejoining Russia and when he decided to participate in Syrian war.
Putins popularity was lowest when Russias economy was growing enormously .
Pundit sometimes its better to shut up than yap things you dont know about.
Russian mentality is different .


Upuzi , politics is not about economy alone. Putins highest popularity was when Crimea rejoined Russia in 2014 , was that economy when they Russian economy was being sanctioned left and right ?
Under Putin leadership the economy grew from 200B to 2.5 trillion in 15yrs thanks to minning n oil bonanza..this made Putin insanely popular...now it's tanked to 1.5 trillion..add unwinnable war with Ukraine
Russia is already big..adding tiny pieces to it wont matter.Putin popularity was his economic miracles but it dead now....he will become unpopular n that before the body bags are counted from Ukraine
I don't listen to nonsense ever.Putin is on his last days.Putin miscalculated on Ukraine bravery n motivation to defend their homeland.The weapons are extra

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2023, 12:48:41 AM »
Wacha matusi na madharau kuwa mwanaume kamili...unataka kulia?
Patel evidence of kill ratio is your jaluo arse

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2023, 10:03:45 AM »
I ask you for evidence of 1:10 kill ratio. As far as I am concerned Ukraine have lost less than Russia because they've been very smart. Attacking on summer. Defending on Winter.
Wacha matusi na madharau kuwa mwanaume kamili...unataka kulia?
Patel evidence of kill ratio is your jaluo arse

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2023, 11:07:12 AM »
Stalin proclaimed the same about Stalin , Hitler went first.
Putin will be still in power as Biden counts his losses next year.
Ask Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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He can avoid death by retiring and pickin a succesor.

lol that's like saying Ghaddafi or saddam hussein could have avoided death. No.

Putin is now fighting for his life. There's no way out but death for him and he knows it.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2023, 07:39:31 PM »
NBC news..Pentagon documents....now shows the source where Russia has more casualties..
'The same document estimated that Ukraine had suffered 124,500 to 131,000 casualties, with Russia 15,500 to 1 7,500 killed in action. U.S. authorities have accused Air National Guardsman Jack Teixeira of leaking the classified material and charged him under the Espionage Act.May 2, 2023'

I ask you for evidence of 1:10 kill ratio. As far as I am concerned Ukraine have lost less than Russia because they've been very smart. Attacking on summer. Defending on Winter.
Wacha matusi na madharau kuwa mwanaume kamili...unataka kulia?
Patel evidence of kill ratio is your jaluo arse
« Last Edit: August 27, 2023, 02:36:11 AM by patel »

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2023, 01:12:49 AM »
Did I miss something? Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election in 2016. I cannot recall Obama loosing in an election.

Stalin proclaimed the same about Stalin , Hitler went first.
Putin will be still in power as Biden counts his losses next year.
Ask Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2023, 08:16:33 AM »
Yes you did miss something . When Hillary Clinton lost Obama was still in power and he blamed Wagner and sanctioned Prighozin and his group .

Did I miss something? Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election in 2016. I cannot recall Obama loosing in an election.

Stalin proclaimed the same about Stalin , Hitler went first.
Putin will be still in power as Biden counts his losses next year.
Ask Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2023, 08:13:07 PM »
Don't they need pilots??? I am afraid this will end up like German Leopards tank experiment.

Ukraine will get jets for air cover...soon there will be parity n Russia is on receiving end ?s=19

Absolutely.


An aircraft is only as good as it's user/ pilot.
Training a pilot and immediately sending  him to war against an opponent with a formidable integrated air defense system.....the outcome will be definitely disastrous, unless the west /NATO intends to use its own experienced fighter pilots, silently...
Either way it will be a good training ground for both NATO and Russia to test their toys. I believe those birds will be knocked out one by one, just like the leopards, himars and whatever new hardware goes into that theatre. This is not Syria, Iraq or some 3rd world country NATO is dealing with.....

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2023, 03:19:50 PM »
Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2023, 09:09:59 PM »
Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2023, 09:21:39 PM »
Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.
lame.western media ndio nini.

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2023, 10:51:36 AM »
Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.

Source?

As long as Ukraine hasn't reclaimed an inch of their lost territory to Russia, all that you have written up here is fictional!

Zero gains made in the Frontline. Moscow being hit???? What strategic installation deep within Russia has Ukraine hit that would inform your skewed analysis of the conflict?
When that happens please wake us up. Ukraine will sue for peace, without NATO interference very soon!

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2023, 12:30:30 PM »

If you cant even read basic maps; how can you be helped.
Ukraine has continue to reclaim more and more territories;
And Russia despite minning the  hell out of Ukraine and digging defensive trenches are collapsing as we speak.
Ukraine will kick them till Dec winter.
Then they will rest.
And wait to grind out more Russian troops.

Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.

Source?

As long as Ukraine hasn't reclaimed an inch of their lost territory to Russia, all that you have written up here is fictional!

Zero gains made in the Frontline. Moscow being hit???? What strategic installation deep within Russia has Ukraine hit that would inform your skewed analysis of the conflict?
When that happens please wake us up. Ukraine will sue for peace, without NATO interference very soon!

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2023, 05:44:18 PM »

If you cant even read basic maps; how can you be helped.
Ukraine has continue to reclaim more and more territories;
And Russia despite minning the  hell out of Ukraine and digging defensive trenches are collapsing as we speak.
Ukraine will kick them till Dec winter.
Then they will rest.
And wait to grind out more Russian troops.

Russia long lost this war. Places like Moscow are now getting hit by Ukraine while Russian seem unable to hit KIEV any longer. And more and more weapons including jets and more missiles defense being sent. Things one year ago were out of questions - now they are being sent like it nothing. Next Ukraine will even get Nuclear :)

In short Russia is fighting NATO PLUS - and cannot win. Ukraine is doing the donkey work with incredible efficiency - and weapons will therefore keep flowing - because Ukraine is first country in that region to take the war to Russia.

Incredible feat by Ukraine. Incredible miscalculation by Putin.

This war has to end game - we have never ending protracted battle in Ukraine eastern/southern border  that bogs down Russia with bitting sanctions - or as is likely someone in Army will overthrow Putin - and sue for peace. He will empty Russian forex reserves - and pay Ukraine 1 trillion dollars for war repartration. He will accept Ukraine to join EU and NAT0. Russia will then focus on internal issues for next 3 decades.

Wagner already showed it possible to overrun Putin in a day. An Army commander who will get tired with body bags will complete the job.

Source?

As long as Ukraine hasn't reclaimed an inch of their lost territory to Russia, all that you have written up here is fictional!

Zero gains made in the Frontline. Moscow being hit???? What strategic installation deep within Russia has Ukraine hit that would inform your skewed analysis of the conflict?
When that happens please wake us up. Ukraine will sue for peace, without NATO interference very soon!

Which map are you talking about, Ptolemy's 😅😅

Please stick to Moass.

This is new information, not even captured by your preferred outlet CNN. Had this been factual by now all European+ US media outlets would be awash with breaking news all over.... Hatungelala!!!!

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2023, 05:06:48 AM »
Russia get drone attacked 600km inside...Moscow daily. Putin might have to relocate to Siberia?s=19

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2023, 05:18:44 AM »
For those who need maps ?s=19

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2023, 06:21:20 AM »
We have parity in this war ?s=19

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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2023, 04:45:14 PM »
Russia get drone attacked 600km inside...Moscow daily. Putin might have to relocate to Siberia?s=19

Ukraine is pissing in Russia's face.  At the start of the invasion these were the so-called Russian red-lines.
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Re: Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2023, 06:01:38 PM »
After even Wagner threaten to match to Moscow and did a blistering run - look like everyone now think Russia is bluff - even if they threw a nuclear - it likely to be unable to pass the missile defense and do any serious damage. Of course if he throws nuclear - NATO will enter the war officially and overrun Russia.

Poor Putin miscalculated big time - everyday he unravels.