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Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« on: March 21, 2023, 01:11:53 AM »
Even the protesters agreed with him, but he gave them a stern warning (don't throw stones otherwise, I'll use my AK47)

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2023, 01:37:32 AM »
Raila as long as he has stupid Luos will never change
Kalonzo - machakos-kitui-mwingi-nothing

Its upon Luos to realize they are going nowhere.

But Luos are they ready for that talk>

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2023, 01:59:01 AM »
If I were in Ruto's position (lets forget raila at this point) I"m not sure what I would tell poor, unemployed, hungry kenyans. He's only been in office less than a year, but I'm not sure what kenyans were expecting?

Although they are some moves that Ruto is making that are not going to help him - eg hiring 50 CAS even grandmullah has told him to scale that down and I want to know why he did that.

But at the end of the day there is no quick fix to poverty and you can't wait for the government to save you. You have to save yourself. Get to Dubai or the middle east if you can.

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2023, 02:06:22 AM »
There is also a report that a year before election and few months before Ruto was elected, economy was much worse than today, yet Raila NEVER uttered a word. The lotting, impunity, and corruption was unprecedented, but where these fools not to hold themselves and the drunkard accountable? I think they are scared Ruto is laying good foundation that will make them irrelevant for decades. They want the country to fail, so they can have a fighting chance in 2032!
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2023, 02:25:18 AM »
Where was Kalonzo? always hiding. And Uhuru? Hiding? What will uhuru say now as a former president? He cannot as a former president encourage or support this foolishness.

But this issue of 50 CAS positions and of hiring people like kidero isn't going to help ruto's case.


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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2023, 08:18:59 AM »
50 cas is Ruto discretion...he has executive power..cas were okayed by court.CAS will not dent gov expenditure

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2023, 08:35:08 AM »
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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2023, 08:41:26 AM »
50 cas is Ruto discretion...he has executive power..cas were okayed by court.CAS will not dent gov expenditure

Your arrogance just like that of Dr. David Ndii has already been debunked bozo....

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2023, 09:42:11 AM »
CAS will not idle but work.That is where you get real value for the money. If Ruto makes them work long hours that public money we'll spent

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2023, 11:45:45 AM »
CAS will not idle but work.That is where you get real value for the money. If Ruto makes them work long hours that public money we'll spent
The government promised austerity to reduce borrowing and ease pressure on the economy. Not only have they not cut spending they have increased recurrent expenditure by adding CAS  and overall bill https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/ruto-tweaks-uhuru-budget-grows-recurrent-by-sh87-6bn-4166208 . In the meantime CBK overdraft is now 73b, clearly we're more than extended. Either we're going to be in an economic stagnation for a prolonged period or soon implode.

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2023, 12:09:13 PM »
There is difference btw cutting expenditure where you get huge money off like cancelling some of useless projects; and small increment from CAS;

Apart from symbolism; this kind of small mindness should not be taken seriously.

If gov want to cut budget - it will have to look for ways to cut it - like KQ - 25B bailout - Oil subsidy that was going to 100B - there such huge wasteful expenditure.

But CAS salaries and cars - mmm - hardly makes a dent. Those salaries KRA will collect 30% back anyway. So we are not going to discuss a billion dollar to employ people who can drive gov agenda.

There is certain level of frugality that gov should not get into it. Focus on big projects that we can cut. Mostly development projects - like roads or railway or ports. Those big infra projects can wait until economy is out of trouble.

Recurrent expenditure - there is little to cut - it salaries, allowances and money for tissues papers.

The government promised austerity to reduce borrowing and ease pressure on the economy. Not only have they not cut spending they have increased recurrent expenditure by adding CAS  and overall bill https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/ruto-tweaks-uhuru-budget-grows-recurrent-by-sh87-6bn-4166208 . In the meantime CBK overdraft is now 73b, clearly we're more than extended. Either we're going to be in an economic stagnation for a prolonged period or soon implode.

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2023, 01:10:18 PM »
There is difference btw cutting expenditure where you get huge money off like cancelling some of useless projects; and small increment from CAS;

Apart from symbolism; this kind of small mindness should not be taken seriously.

If gov want to cut budget - it will have to look for ways to cut it - like KQ - 25B bailout - Oil subsidy that was going to 100B - there such huge wasteful expenditure.

But CAS salaries and cars - mmm - hardly makes a dent. Those salaries KRA will collect 30% back anyway. So we are not going to discuss a billion dollar to employ people who can drive gov agenda.

There is certain level of frugality that gov should not get into it. Focus on big projects that we can cut. Mostly development projects - like roads or railway or ports. Those big infra projects can wait until economy is out of trouble.

Recurrent expenditure - there is little to cut - it salaries, allowances and money for tissues papers.

The government promised austerity to reduce borrowing and ease pressure on the economy. Not only have they not cut spending they have increased recurrent expenditure by adding CAS  and overall bill https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/ruto-tweaks-uhuru-budget-grows-recurrent-by-sh87-6bn-4166208 . In the meantime CBK overdraft is now 73b, clearly we're more than extended. Either we're going to be in an economic stagnation for a prolonged period or soon implode.
Recurrent expenditure makes more than 67% of the budget, what's where to cut spending. Its either that or somehow grow the economy to finance the recurrent expenditure and reduce the percentage of government expenditure on the economy.  Kenya has to either reduce government spending or increase exports, consumption and investment as percentage of overall aggregate demand in the economy.

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2023, 01:19:03 PM »
How do you cut recurrent expenditure without firing teachers, police and such - who consume most of the money.
Recurrent expenditure is mostly social investment - in free primary, secondary and university education - healthcare
I dont see how gov can cut - unless we go back to 1990s mass retrenchment.
And huge cutback on social investment.

Kenya at least now cry about food - but not schools fees. Very nice :)

We just need to cut the 33% that is development budget until global economy improves.
If a road is not build today - nobody will die.
Cut development budget - focus on Hustler Fund - giving people bigger micro-loans to start small hustles.


Anything else is dreaming - we cannot increase exports that fast and that easily.

Recurrent expenditure makes more than 67% of the budget, what's where to cut spending. Its either that or somehow grow the economy to finance the recurrent expenditure and reduce the percentage of government expenditure on the economy.  Kenya has to either reduce government spending or increase exports, consumption and investment as percentage of overall aggregate demand in the economy.

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Re: Very Reasonable Policeman (more rational than Raila)
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2023, 01:43:59 PM »
How do you cut recurrent expenditure without firing teachers, police and such - who consume most of the money.
Recurrent expenditure is mostly social investment - in free primary, secondary and university education - healthcare
I dont see how gov can cut - unless we go back to 1990s mass retrenchment.
And huge cutback on social investment.

Kenya at least now cry about food - but not schools fees. Very nice :)

We just need to cut the 33% that is development budget until global economy improves.
If a road is not build today - nobody will die.
Cut development budget - focus on Hustler Fund - giving people bigger micro-loans to start small hustles.


Anything else is dreaming - we cannot increase exports that fast and that easily.

Recurrent expenditure makes more than 67% of the budget, what's where to cut spending. Its either that or somehow grow the economy to finance the recurrent expenditure and reduce the percentage of government expenditure on the economy.  Kenya has to either reduce government spending or increase exports, consumption and investment as percentage of overall aggregate demand in the economy.
Hard choices have to be made. There's alot of wastage on running of ministries apart from salaries, this is the low lying fruit.  Also alot of civil servants are overpaid because they're heavily taxed. A teacher making 60k is taxed at 30% paye, this is what needs to be reduced.
Hustler fund is a subsidized fund by taxpayers. Government is borrowing at 12% and lending at 8%. Government borrowing lend to the high interest rates, reducing budget deficit would lower interest rates but that means making tough calls. So government created hustler fund to circumvent this, but this is a temporary solution.