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We might need full inquiry for all these treasonous activities..I guess Ruto also know the guilty are scared and afraid..?t=fNz-xYaVY30xyBkq5H8TLg&s=19
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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2023, 03:44:48 PM »
Ruto - Chebukati was to be abducted and murdered.

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2023, 03:57:55 PM »

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2023, 08:46:28 PM »
mambo ya uchaguzi ilipita

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2023, 08:52:55 PM »
You really feel for your tribesman. Yeye atafirwa mkundu.Ngoja tu. Uchumi kwanza iwe stable. Raila alipwe zake anyameze ndio Ngoma iaanza. Kinoti-Matiangi-Kibicho cant escape. Raila will not say a word.
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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2023, 08:57:55 PM »
Ruto has come out guns blazing, but who will receive the wrath of his anger? Uhuru? Ogolla? (who is still there?) Kinoti? how will this play out?

I am also curious about what specific security measures were taken? it's not easy to escape an assassination attempt by the state. Where was Chebukati sleeping? Did he have safe houses? did he have 24/7 security? Did he use different phones? was his car bullet proof? The state usually succeeds when it wants someone dead.

I hope all the details come out one day and my question still remains -- What was Uhuru thinking? why was he so worried about Ruto becoming the president that he was willing to put the entire country through another 2007 scenario or worse? Uhuru destroyed the economy and failed to realize that, that was what made his own Kikuyu's leave him (was he so out of touch that he didn't realize this?)

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2023, 09:02:57 PM »
"Over-confidence, too many centres of power, a know-it-all attitude and thinking it was a done deal yet the left was not speaking to the right. Nobody was teachable; they were all experts.

Versus - Counterintelligence running parallel NIs who knew what Azimio were planning and could counter them.

Ruto took about 500 cops to Bomas during the crunch hour.

He had his 100 cops - and 400 private ones.

It was too late for Uhuru-Raila-Kinotis :) because the final crunch hour - when it came to battle - Ruto guys overpowered Azimio nis-cid and kicked them out. They were afraid of a gun battle.

And they watched as Chebukati announced Ruto had won - and Ruto forces secured Bomas.

Ruto has come out guns blazing, but who will receive the wrath of his anger? Uhuru? Ogolla? (who is still there?) Kinoti? how will this play out?

I am also curious about what specific security measures were taken? it's not easy to escape an assassination attempt by the state. Where was Chebukati sleeping? Did he have safe houses? did he have 24/7 security? Did he use different phones? was his car bullet proof? The state usually succeeds when it wants someone dead.

I hope all the details come out one day and my question still remains -- What was Uhuru thinking? why was he so worried about Ruto becoming the president that he was willing to put the entire country through another 2007 scenario or worse? Uhuru destroyed the economy and failed to realize that, that was what made his own Kikuyu's leave him (was he so out of touch that he didn't realize this?)

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2023, 09:04:41 PM »
Many "foolish" people underestimate Ruto.
Even now they still underestimate him.

They dont know behind the nice facade is a methodological cold calculating schemer.

I think Ruto gameplan is simple - neutralize Raila - then go for them - kipole pole.

Ruto will not go to 2027 - heck 2024 - with his enemies intact.

Is Uhuru safe - definitely - but kenyatta wealth will be destroyed.

Ruto knows only Raila can cause street chaos - and rally Azimio to complain - and I think he is keen to finish him first - before he go for the rest.

Finish raila is to pay him...Raila will take the money and immunity....and wont complain when Ruto go for the Azimio crew....because they failed anyway...Raila has no morals.

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2023, 09:08:12 PM »
You really feel for your tribesman. Yeye atafirwa mkundu.Ngoja tu. Uchumi kwanza iwe stable. Raila alipwe zake anyameze ndio Ngoma iaanza. Kinoti-Matiangi-Kibicho cant escape. Raila will not say a word.
mambo ya uchaguzi ilipita
you must be gay like that Edwin kiprotich chiloba guy, I heard homosexuals and ChamGays are on the rise in kalenjin land, going by what you post I concur. just be careful usipatikane ndani ya sanduku :D :D

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2023, 09:12:39 PM »
sodomy versus homesexual different things.Kalenjin use sodomy to punish a despicable enemy. Tell Kinoti to be ready.
you must be gay like that Edwin kiprotich chiloba guy, I heard homosexuals and ChamGays are on the rise in kalenjin land, going by what you post I concur. just be careful usipatikane ndani ya sanduku :D :D

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2023, 09:50:09 PM »
Njuri Ncheke - Hii si mambo ya uchaguzi. This is post-election briefing. If we do not nip this on the bud, we may live to fight again.

I am cautiously commenting on this topic knowing that the issue is coming from politicians and our lazy media - we haven't seen evidence of the plot to kidnap and kill Chebukati. However, coming directly from Ruto, the issue has to be addressed seriously, and with a legal conclusion. If the allegation have substance, those involved in the plot must be prosecuted - This is a Legal issue!

On the political front (assuming that there is substance to prove the allegation), What the public and inquiring journalist must ask is - Was Raila Odinga ready to be Made (yes MADE as opposed to elected) President at this expense - this is a rhetorical question...a discussion we need to have in our Public Agenda.

I am curiously waiting for Baba to comment on this, knowing that "Silence is consent"  and  in politics denied allegations, they are often than not confirmed in the denial...a hard position for Raila and his handlers.

You really feel for your tribesman. Yeye atafirwa mkundu.Ngoja tu. Uchumi kwanza iwe stable. Raila alipwe zake anyameze ndio Ngoma iaanza. Kinoti-Matiangi-Kibicho cant escape. Raila will not say a word.
mambo ya uchaguzi ilipita

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2023, 11:04:22 PM »
NASC met and deliberated. they briefed the president that rhe election was compromised beyond measure. they told him make the decision based on this information to protect the integrity of the process. it was decided only uhuru had the power to make that decision. uhuru let the process play out and didn't report back on what his decision was. botromline uhuru decided to let the process play out all the way to the courts

ruto knows uhuru let him have his way. he is covering his tracks by making noise but everyone in interior. security at the time knows this.

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2023, 11:18:17 PM »
Njamba - Can you explain what you are saying??? You are speaking in tongues. Are you suggesting that it was Ruto, Not The System, that compromised the elections (If at all they were compromised)? Is this a clever ploy to exonerate Uhuru/NSIC/DCI/Matiangi/Kibicho from an alleged attempted coup? Perhaps I missed your point.

NASC met and deliberated. they briefed the president that rhe election was compromised beyond measure. they told him make the decision based on this information to protect the integrity of the process. it was decided only uhuru had the power to make that decision. uhuru let the process play out and didn't report back on what his decision was. botromline uhuru decided to let the process play out all the way to the courts

ruto knows uhuru let him have his way. he is covering his tracks by making noise but everyone in interior. security at the time knows this.

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2023, 11:26:55 PM »
Azimio has unlimited time to prove how Ruto rigged.Ruto had counter intelligence on Azimio and knew all their moves.Azimio best plans failed..rigging ..hacking..violence..bomas failed...because chebukati iebc and Ruto were just many steps ahead.They tried everything including inciting ethnic clashes before election...in desperate final days they tried to kill and kidnap chebukati..failed.Biggest asset Ruto has is called intelligence..Ruto learnt from Moi..to stay ahead...always know everything. What itumbi was leaking is the tip.What Ruto is saying is the tip.Ruto knows all the involved right from day zero. Ruto I knew run a parallel Nis way back....Ruto assisted Raila in 2007 with intelligence but he was an idiot who didn't act.Kalenjin as prolific cattle rustlers have long standing intelligence gathering traditions that predates CIA...Kalenjin traditional spies ..even pokot study their target for months..even in war...Kalenjin can even send fake madmen..or women sluts..come raid or attack..it swift and efficient..this what ufool faced and still is dazed.To beat Ruto you needed to dismantle his intelligence network that was leaking everything...Azimio were too confident to bother..so all their plans were foiled

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2023, 11:42:11 PM »
Njamba - Can you explain what you are saying??? You are speaking in tongues. Are you suggesting that it was Ruto, Not The System, that compromised the elections (If at all they were compromised)? Is this a clever ploy to exonerate Uhuru/NSIC/DCI/Matiangi/Kibicho from an alleged attempted coup? Perhaps I missed your point.

NASC met and deliberated. they briefed the president that rhe election was compromised beyond measure. they told him make the decision based on this information to protect the integrity of the process. it was decided only uhuru had the power to make that decision. uhuru let the process play out and didn't report back on what his decision was. botromline uhuru decided to let the process play out all the way to the courts

ruto knows uhuru let him have his way. he is covering his tracks by making noise but everyone in interior. security at the time knows this.

elections got compromised at voting stage. tallying stage wasn't going to undo that. local administrators, (chiefs and sub chiefs) reports shared this intelligence. this intel was canvassed for hours and uhuru was told to sleep on it and make a decision. interior security wanted him to suspend tallying process but he decided not . uhuru presented with this dilemma. he refused or he legally knew he had no option but to let the process play out. who rigged. Voters rigged on behalf of their candidates. most rigging was in Central and other areas where uda was in control.
uhuru decided a constitutional crisis was not going to be his legacy so he let the best rigger win. ruto knows this..he fears azimio will use this to undermine him ..

all the noise you are hearing from raila and ruto is trying to thrash out this. uhuru has left and locked himself away fr9m this fight

uhuru didn't try to kill or interfere with iebc. he choose national security over his ego.

bottomline ruto should rule because he outsmarted everyone. he needs to move on stay above fray and let the sleeping dogs lie.,he has time and his supporters

i got this intel during iebc stalling. i counter checked it with Azimio tweets. Alai is usually Raila's people trual balloon. hs tweeted " Uhuru has to do the rigjht thing" and voila my jntel checked out
everyone was in azimio thought uhuru would act but uhuru had no legal basis to do so. he could have plunged kenya into a crisis
 that why Azimio was very mad with uhuru they thought he had double crossed them. I think he run out of options and his legal advisors made the right call

summary:
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rigging happened at polling center
local administrators sent this intel up the chain
security committee deliberated this
there was noway to undo this rigging so only option was to suspend tallying
only uhuru was asked to make this call
he decides to let the process continue and play out all the way to courts
Courts decided it was not their place to clean up that mess
Ruto was confirmed president
Azimio stills wants to use this to undermine ruto
Ruto is talking to muddle the issue
Chebukati is clean
iebc lower Cadre is where the problem is and will always be

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2023, 11:47:17 PM »
Ufool tried everything..NASc,Tuju
Njamba - Can you explain what you are saying??? You are speaking in tongues. Are you suggesting that it was Ruto, Not The System, that compromised the elections (If at all they were compromised)? Is this a clever ploy to exonerate Uhuru/NSIC/DCI/Matiangi/Kibicho from an alleged attempted coup? Perhaps I missed your point.

NASC met and deliberated. they briefed the president that rhe election was compromised beyond measure. they told him make the decision based on this information to protect the integrity of the process. it was decided only uhuru had the power to make that decision. uhuru let the process play out and didn't report back on what his decision was. botromline uhuru decided to let the process play out all the way to the courts

ruto knows uhuru let him have his way. he is covering his tracks by making noise but everyone in interior. security at the time knows this.

elections got compromised at voting stage. tallying stage wasn't going to undo that. local administrators reports shared this intelligence. uhuru presented with this dilemma. he refused or he legally knew he had no option but to let the process play out. who rigged. Voters rigged on behalf of their candidates. most rigging was in Central and other areas where uda was in control.
uhuru decided a constitutional crisis was not going to be his legacy so he let the best rigger win. ruto knows this..he fears azimio will use this to undermine him ..

all the noise you are hearing from raila and ruto is trying to thrash out this. uhuru has left and locked himself away fr9m this fight

uhuru didn't try to kill or interfere with iebc. he choose national security over his ego.

ufool failed but try he did...he helped raila rig northern Eastern and related areas massively..rigged nyanza...he tried hacking into iebc with gicheru importing Chinese and Nigerians...last minute he tried to start clashes in Eldoret..the election date things happened so fast he lost control..tried cutting internet..Power..too late...results were already in.Ruto knew he had won within 24hrs..the next few days was to battle uhuru  subversion

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2023, 02:41:28 AM »
We must also remember that amidst this chaos that uhuru tried to forment are missing men - the innocent IEBC official that was killed.  The innocent uber driver that picked up those two indians and all three are missing and presumed dead.

Ruto MUST address this IEBC problem once and for all. We cannot have politicians like Uhuru and Raila, thinking they are monarchs and getting away with killing people.  For the country to move forward, DEMOCRACY MUST be allowed to thrive.

Chebukati is a real patriot who loves his country and refused to yield to this 3rd world thuggery and his sacrifices must not be left with no consequences.   

At some point, kenyans in power have to start paying a price for their thuggery otherwise when will it ever end?

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2023, 03:24:29 AM »
We must also remember that amidst this chaos that uhuru tried to forment are missing men - the innocent IEBC official that was killed.  The innocent uber driver that picked up those two indians and all three are missing and presumed dead.

Ruto MUST address this IEBC problem once and for all. We cannot have politicians like Uhuru and Raila, thinking they are monarchs and getting away with killing people.  For the country to move forward, DEMOCRACY MUST be allowed to thrive.

Chebukati is a real patriot who loves his country and refused to yield to this 3rd world thuggery and his sacrifices must not be left with no consequences.   

At some point, kenyans in power have to start paying a price for their thuggery otherwise when will it ever end?

do you have evidence uhuru killed those people. in Africa elections are min coups. there is no way to stop this. so if you get involved know you may be killed by actors in this coup. Kenya underwent a mini coup in August. Ruto emerged the winner. in 2027 we think ruto has no challenger so he will win easily. in 2032 another coup will happen

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2023, 03:38:37 AM »
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do you have evidence uhuru killed those people. in Africa elections are min coups

Now kenyan plato, why are you asking me stupid questions like the average kenyan? eh? Evidence, evidence, blah, blah, blah...we all know kenya and what it's about. You sound like an illiterate "journalist" at Citizens or NTV

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Re: Kinoti desperate bid to kidnap & kill chebukati thwarted by Ruto guards
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2023, 05:30:37 AM »
facebook kikuyu is on fire about hii story ya abunuwasi by ruto. everyone agrees if uhuru had given order to kill chebukati he would be making oil in western kenya. the sotey is meant for stupid tugeges in Central. the govt doesn't miss and if it misses it is by design

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid034cf7oTqxkuP1MQS4GirdtoUk1JF9bST4WzERNyUftVkjKPYKRf6D86NwNzkX45WNl&id=1385217758