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Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« on: November 16, 2022, 06:06:09 AM »
Media reports suggest that M7/Kagame (tutsi) fund rebels in DRC in exchange of mineral and wood products worth over $4BNusd annually.Now Tsishekedi fallout with M7/Kagame is basically on that matter.

Ruto is friends with M7 and Kagame...Of late Ruto sent KDF to DRC.Who is he representing?What is America stand on this matter?

Lastly,I've seen Uhuru bashing M7 and Kagame as foreign invaders of DRC In a media interview and later visited refugees who attested the same?

Interesting times.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2022, 08:37:10 AM »
Congolese need to accept Tutsi as tribe first before anything and guarantee their human rights...that Kenya should work with US..then it will be easier to keep Kigali n Uganda out

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2022, 10:20:49 AM »
Uhuru is heavily invested in DRC , Ruto will do anything Uhuru asks him .Its that simple.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2022, 10:28:09 AM »
If the USA is funding KDF and Congolese Army,Then we can as well say Kagame and M7 are numbered....I think once the UG/RW rebels are wiped off DRC,Tsishekedi will arm rebels all the way to Kampala and Kigali.

The most interesting thing to watch will be how M7/Kagame will react to Ruto's betrayal.

Uhuru in Goma-Who paid for the private jet?Who are those soldiers?Who is financing the peace process?


One thing:As a student of history,I wouldn't fly in a war zone or get anywhere near rebels.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2022, 11:56:55 AM »
Uhuru is heavily invested in DRC , Ruto will do anything Uhuru asks him .Its that simple.
Nonsense. Ruto will do what museveni and the US wants.Ruto owes museveni big one.Only US will determine how this go after talking to Kagame and museveni.Kenya I suspect is going there to also get a chance to loot or be in Congo.Nobody cares about kinshasasa gov stuck many miles away that is so ineffective

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2022, 12:01:01 PM »
If the USA is funding KDF and Congolese Army,Then we can as well say Kagame and M7 are numbered....I think once the UG/RW rebels are wiped off DRC,Tsishekedi will arm rebels all the way to Kampala and Kigali.

The most interesting thing to watch will be how M7/Kagame will react to Ruto's betrayal.

Uhuru in Goma-Who paid for the private jet?Who are those soldiers?Who is financing the peace process?


One thing:As a student of history,I wouldn't fly in a war zone or get anywhere near rebels.
Your are smoking weed.Uhuru is doing what Ruto wants because he is scared . Museveni will decide how this goes together with Kagame.DRC will be forced to accept m23 demands and both parties to stop sponsoring rebels.DRC is too big one one country

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 08:05:32 PM »
Ruto is in a fix.

USA agenda is to kick China out of DRC.

I think Ruto,Biden & Tsishekedi have signed a deal to wipe out Ugandan and Rwandan rebels from DRC while at the same time hand over DRC resources to USA.That's why Ruto sent KDF to DRC (USA to supply arms to DRC army through KDF).

I think M7 & Kagame regimes are in their last days because they won't have supply of weapons or money from illegal mines.

I think that's the reason Muhoozi (M7 son) was threatening Kenya.

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2022, 08:52:50 PM »
US will not leave reliable Museveni and Kagame for anyone.
Tsikedi involving Kenya was Raila & Uhuru idea.
Ruto is playing along because he has not had time to figure out his game.
Definitely the retention of Dr Juma Monica tells me Ruto is aligned with Uhuru thinking on this - Juma is the brains behind this.
Ruto is also keen to align with US/Kigali/Kampala on this.
Something Raila would have not be ready.
I believe Tsikedi will be forced to negotiate with M23/Rwanda.
I dont expect kenya to fight Ug or Kigali - that would be moronic.
Kenya is going to try have some play too - in that area.
Congo is too big.
Ruto will carve himself huge portion - Museveni will keep most of North Kivu - and Kagame South Kivu.
Ruto has to find himself somewhere to curve in the middle
The Americans control the whole play

DRC is five times bigger than Kenya. Kinshasasa simply has no way govern it.

Keny play should be to form buffer btw Congole and Rwandese M23



Ruto is in a fix.

USA agenda is to kick China out of DRC.

I think Ruto,Biden & Tsishekedi have signed a deal to wipe out Ugandan and Rwandan rebels from DRC while at the same time hand over DRC resources to USA.That's why Ruto sent KDF to DRC (USA to supply arms to DRC army through KDF).

I think M7 & Kagame regimes are in their last days because they won't have supply of weapons or money from illegal mines.

I think that's the reason Muhoozi (M7 son) was threatening Kenya.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2022, 07:22:40 AM »
US will not leave reliable Museveni and Kagame for anyone.
Tsikedi involving Kenya was Raila & Uhuru idea.
Ruto is playing along because he has not had time to figure out his game.
Definitely the retention of Dr Juma Monica tells me Ruto is aligned with Uhuru thinking on this - Juma is the brains behind this.
Ruto is also keen to align with US/Kigali/Kampala on this.
Something Raila would have not be ready.
I believe Tsikedi will be forced to negotiate with M23/Rwanda.
I dont expect kenya to fight Ug or Kigali - that would be moronic.
Kenya is going to try have some play too - in that area.
Congo is too big.
Ruto will carve himself huge portion - Museveni will keep most of North Kivu - and Kagame South Kivu.
Ruto has to find himself somewhere to curve in the middle
The Americans control the whole play

DRC is five times bigger than Kenya. Kinshasasa simply has no way govern it.

Keny play should be to form buffer btw Congole and Rwandese M23



Ruto is in a fix.

USA agenda is to kick China out of DRC.

I think Ruto,Biden & Tsishekedi have signed a deal to wipe out Ugandan and Rwandan rebels from DRC while at the same time hand over DRC resources to USA.That's why Ruto sent KDF to DRC (USA to supply arms to DRC army through KDF).

I think M7 & Kagame regimes are in their last days because they won't have supply of weapons or money from illegal mines.

I think that's the reason Muhoozi (M7 son) was threatening Kenya.

(1) Legitimate mined minerals from.DRC are exported directly to China.. Illegally mined minerals are exported by Rwanda and Uganda to China through UAE..they value about $5BN annually.This illegal money is used to finance UG RW rebels and get weapons from Russia and China mostly.So the USA has almost NIL trade and military leverage in DRC.

(2) Kenya hasn't gone to DRC for peace keeping BUT war.KDF will be the American proxy to kick out Rwanda and Uganda rebels from DRC.Looking at DRC RWANDA AND UG  trade,They are Chinese agents...That explains the fallout between Tsihshekedi and Kabila who was M7 Kagame proxy.

There is a deal amongst Tsihshekedi Ruto and Biden.And sooner or later,we will have new regimes in Rwanda and Uganda based on current happenings.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2022, 12:15:42 PM »
You understimate those tutsi and their hold of the region at your own peril. These are people who have endured genocide and like jews are deadly. Only a fool will take war to them in their backyard.

Ruto will be given his space in DRC to operate from - and that is likely to provide buffer btw rwanda and drc.

US is interested in cobalt and uranium...not gold or diamond.

DRC is too big to be govern by Tsiekidi. He simply has no capacity.

DRC will be carved until they split the country

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2022, 08:09:51 AM »
Uhuru is heavily invested in DRC , Ruto will do anything Uhuru asks him .Its that simple.
I think am beginning to believe you regarding this this far you have called it correctly,its not far fetched Uhuru has bought Ruto we will find out sooner than later.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2022, 08:11:54 AM »
Its possible Ruto is now mtu wa mkono for Uhuru and the americans I think US id fed up with museveni and kagame,US is perfect at using and dumping.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2022, 08:34:58 PM »
Look like there is ceasefire.

I think KDF will be told to enforce the cease fire - kenya will occupy GOMA and sorrounding regions - for sometimes -


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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2022, 03:32:57 AM »
Look like there is ceasefire.

I think KDF will be told to enforce the cease fire - kenya will occupy GOMA and sorrounding regions - for sometimes -

KDF is not in DRC as KDF but as a part of an East African force.

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2022, 09:13:55 AM »
https://www.africanews.com/2022/11/23/dr-congo-rwanda-peace-talks-resume-in-luanda/

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/m23-rebels-cut-off-kenya-uganda-trade-routes-to-drc-4029896

(1) On Friday,Uhuru press statement incriminated Kagame by stating he has urged him to urge M23 to agree to cease fire.

(2) Monday;Ruto met Tsishekedi in Kinshasa.

(3) Tuesday;Rwanda blocks Kenya shipment to GOMA.

(4) Wednesday;Kagame skips peace meeting in Luanda,Angola.

(5)....

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Re: Where does Ruto stand in DRC crisis?Who is Uhuru representing?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2022, 07:36:13 PM »
Interesting perspective from this Rwomushana guy.
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Museveni captured Mogadishu and struggled to secure it whilst Kenya and the West including France seized Kisumayo port thence capturing the Somalia economy.
Now Kenya is going to occupy Kivu at the economic detriment of Uganda.
Museveni empire is quietly being eroded by Kenya.
Muhoozi outbursts of destroying Kenya militarily are justified

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1924664241226351

Also talks of Garang, pipeline and Naivasha.
I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution