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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2022, 02:58:32 PM »
Russia does not respect any treaty. 1990s, NATO signed a treaty so Ukraine can give up its nuclear weapons. and then restricted weapons for Ukraine to protect itself. Bad mistake.
Ukraine should get any weapons they want.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2022, 03:40:22 PM »
As usaul Noway... with his phantasies. Ukraine has a population of about 40M. If 10M moved to Russia this would be noticed immediately. A quater of the total population. Kindly desist from your fantasies.

Xerson was captured during the early days of the operation . Majority of the residents were pro russia hence the reason governing the area has been easy by pro russian forces . They even voted to join Russia, only recently have Ukrainian forces started shelling Kherson . Based on how Ukrainian forces have managed rheir counter offesive its evident they are going to jail lots of kherson residents based on accusations they were collaborating with Russian forces. You will be suprised to learn that more than 10 M Ukrainians have migrated to Russia since 2014 but Western media doesnt tell you this.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2022, 03:48:36 PM »
Another clueless fellow. Britain's governing party mainly the PM and her then Chancellor made terrible political errors of their own making. Nothing to do with Putin. That black man, though said to be brilliant was too arrogant and refused to listen to any advice he was given. Let him go back to the financial world where he belongs.

Btw, why praise a man like Putin who makes political errors but only due his dictatorship can hold on power? On the other side you look down upon countries that change their leadership peacefully when the leaders make errors.

How long can Europe sustain Ukraine war? Economic collapse eminent. Britain gasping for air as they fire the poor black guy finance minister after 38 days...

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2022, 03:50:36 PM »
As usaul Noway... with his phantasies. Ukraine has a population of about 40M. If 10M moved to Russia this would be noticed immediately. A quater of the total population. Kindly desist from your fantasies.

Xerson was captured during the early days of the operation . Majority of the residents were pro russia hence the reason governing the area has been easy by pro russian forces . They even voted to join Russia, only recently have Ukrainian forces started shelling Kherson . Based on how Ukrainian forces have managed rheir counter offesive its evident they are going to jail lots of kherson residents based on accusations they were collaborating with Russian forces. You will be suprised to learn that more than 10 M Ukrainians have migrated to Russia since 2014 but Western media doesnt tell you this.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2022, 04:36:34 PM »
You need to ask yourself why Pro Russia Yankuvich won won 2010 elections . It was because of the South Eastern Oblasts . Where he originated from . Picture this before 2014 Maidan revolution , Crimea had a population of around 2,5 Million , Donestsk 4.1 Million and Lugansk 2.5 Million Not mentioning Kharkiv , Xerson and zaporjijia . Crimea  became defacto Russia  those are 2.5 Million Ukrainians becoming Russians due to the war in Donetsk and Lugansk majority of the residents moved to Russia. If you have been to Russia you could tell the difference but you only watch Western Media . Brainwashed to the core.

As usaul Noway... with his phantasies. Ukraine has a population of about 40M. If 10M moved to Russia this would be noticed immediately. A quater of the total population. Kindly desist from your fantasies.

Xerson was captured during the early days of the operation . Majority of the residents were pro russia hence the reason governing the area has been easy by pro russian forces . They even voted to join Russia, only recently have Ukrainian forces started shelling Kherson . Based on how Ukrainian forces have managed rheir counter offesive its evident they are going to jail lots of kherson residents based on accusations they were collaborating with Russian forces. You will be suprised to learn that more than 10 M Ukrainians have migrated to Russia since 2014 but Western media doesnt tell you this.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2022, 05:33:28 PM »
So 2.5M Ukranians left Donestsk for Russia between 2014 and 2022? Kijan, even Russia has not occupied the whole of Donestsk.

Even Zelensky is Russian speaker and comes from East Ukraine. Is he automatically pro-Russia?
There a millions of Russian speakers in the Baltic states. When will those too be incooporated into the Russian Empire?

You need to ask yourself why Pro Russia Yankuvich won won 2010 elections . It was because of the South Eastern Oblasts . Where he originated from . Picture this before 2014 Maidan revolution , Crimea had a population of around 2,5 Million , Donestsk 4.1 Million and Lugansk 2.5 Million Not mentioning Kharkiv , Xerson and zaporjijia . Crimea  became defacto Russia  those are 2.5 Million Ukrainians becoming Russians due to the war in Donetsk and Lugansk majority of the residents moved to Russia. If you have been to Russia you could tell the difference but you only watch Western Media . Brainwashed to the core.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2022, 05:47:24 PM »
Unfortunately, yes.
I feel pity for our brother. He is here a lone ranger.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2022, 06:04:30 PM »
5 years down the line you will be rereading my posts and realize I was the only one who talking of what is happening on ground . Not brainwashing Weatern Nedia.
Ask Pro Raila supporters here my posts have been legit . Even when opinion polls were being cooked , I stood with the truth and the ground . Raila supporters now are on self exile

As usaul Noway... with his phantasies. Ukraine has a population of about 40M. If 10M moved to Russia this would be noticed immediately. A quater of the total population. Kindly desist from your fantasies.

Xerson was captured during the early days of the operation . Majority of the residents were pro russia hence the reason governing the area has been easy by pro russian forces . They even voted to join Russia, only recently have Ukrainian forces started shelling Kherson . Based on how Ukrainian forces have managed rheir counter offesive its evident they are going to jail lots of kherson residents based on accusations they were collaborating with Russian forces. You will be suprised to learn that more than 10 M Ukrainians have migrated to Russia since 2014 but Western media doesnt tell you this.

You still rad his posts???

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2022, 08:24:27 PM »
population of Donestk went from 4.1 before 2014 to around 900k currently where did the people go to . When you say Russia has not occupied remember it has be Pro Russian fighers holding it up against Ukraines as it has been a front since 2014.
You people only follow Western media then you think you know whats happening.
Once again there is a difference between Russian speakers  and Russians. Majority of people in NovoRussia were ethnic Russians before thw Genocide started. Zelenskii himself is a Jew not even am ethnic Ukranian .
Your last question brings in a fundemental question . In baltic states too there has been Genecide and ethnic  Russians were forecefully evicted back to Russia.
One big mistake Putin did was to accept them to enter NATO when he was swimming on Euro Gas and Petrodollars.
fall of U.S.S.R. is the biggest Geopolitical Catastrophe of the 21st Century.

So 2.5M Ukranians left Donestsk for Russia between 2014 and 2022? Kijan, even Russia has not occupied the whole of Donestsk.

Even Zelensky is Russian speaker and comes from East Ukraine. Is he automatically pro-Russia?
There a millions of Russian speakers in the Baltic states. When will those too be incooporated into the Russian Empire?

You need to ask yourself why Pro Russia Yankuvich won won 2010 elections . It was because of the South Eastern Oblasts . Where he originated from . Picture this before 2014 Maidan revolution , Crimea had a population of around 2,5 Million , Donestsk 4.1 Million and Lugansk 2.5 Million Not mentioning Kharkiv , Xerson and zaporjijia . Crimea  became defacto Russia  those are 2.5 Million Ukrainians becoming Russians due to the war in Donetsk and Lugansk majority of the residents moved to Russia. If you have been to Russia you could tell the difference but you only watch Western Media . Brainwashed to the core.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2022, 11:12:57 PM »
Its going to be a hard winter. Why bomb schools? Russia should be declared a terrorist state and let the chips fall.
A simple thing like a net is a great drone killer. They usually fly at 120mph.
Meanwhile Ukraine angel-guardian paying back to Russian civilians in kind. This pilot bailed out of his fighter jet leaving it to crash into a residential apartment block in a fiery ball of fire in a city in Russian near border with Southern Ukraine.

?s=20

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2022, 01:44:04 AM »
Its going to be a hard winter. Why bomb schools? Russia should be declared a terrorist state and let the chips fall.
A simple thing like a net is a great drone killer. They usually fly at 120mph.
Meanwhile Ukraine angel-guardian paying back to Russian civilians in kind. This pilot bailed out of his fighter jet leaving it to crash into a residential apartment block in a fiery ball of fire in a city in Russian near border with Southern Ukraine.

?s=20

Rusty equipment.  Money splashed on some poor oligarch's yacht.
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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2022, 04:22:41 PM »
Putin say 300K man strong mobilization complete and ready. Ok first round it was 150K so he is doubling down. It's gonna be a long winter in Ukraine and entire Europe. Golden  chance for Africa to free itself from European stranglehold.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2022, 05:04:40 PM »
Who is holding Africa from going to where it wants to go? Stop blaming wazungus for all problems in Africa. Even many countries in Asia were European colonies. Ever heard China complain about colonialism?

Putin say 300K man strong mobilization complete and ready. Ok first round it was 150K so he is doubling down. It's gonna be a long winter in Ukraine and entire Europe. Golden  chance for Africa to free itself from European stranglehold.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2022, 06:16:20 PM »

What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2022, 06:26:43 PM »
Those are real Ruskie , they are being evacuated to Russia . The Nazi Ukrainians are using HIMARS to bomb their apartments ask your self why they prefer being evacuated to Russia and not Kiev .
Do you even know the meaning of Martial law ? Putin is just setting stage for the next step of his chess game .
 


What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2022, 07:45:36 PM »

What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

Fleeing from Ukrainians with NATO legacy hand-me-down weapons.
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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2022, 07:51:49 PM »
Western Media says, But when Ukrainians citizens were fleeing it was a Humanitarian crisis and they became refugees , why the double standards ? But hey you will never be able to see from this spectre because you have been brainwashed to look at it from the media perspective. One reason you blindly follow Raila.


What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

Fleeing from Ukrainians with NATO legacy hand-me-down weapons.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2022, 08:08:03 PM »
Western Media says, But when Ukrainians citizens were fleeing it was a Humanitarian crisis and they became refugees , why the double standards ? But hey you will never be able to see from this spectre because you have been brainwashed to look at it from the media perspective. One reason you blindly follow Raila.


What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

Fleeing from Ukrainians with NATO legacy hand-me-down weapons.

Russians are getting their behinds hammered.  In what they claim is Russian territory.  Still no nukes.
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2022, 08:53:27 PM »
If you cannot connect the dots that's your problem not mine....
Another clueless fellow. Britain's governing party mainly the PM and her then Chancellor made terrible political errors of their own making. Nothing to do with Putin. That black man, though said to be brilliant was too arrogant and refused to listen to any advice he was given. Let him go back to the financial world where he belongs.

Btw, why praise a man like Putin who makes political errors but only due his dictatorship can hold on power? On the other side you look down upon countries that change their leadership peacefully when the leaders make errors.

How long can Europe sustain Ukraine war? Economic collapse eminent. Britain gasping for air as they fire the poor black guy finance minister after 38 days...

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2022, 09:03:51 PM »
https://www.rt.com/russia/564976-putin-ukraine-campaign-orders/
Western Media says, But when Ukrainians citizens were fleeing it was a Humanitarian crisis and they became refugees , why the double standards ? But hey you will never be able to see from this spectre because you have been brainwashed to look at it from the media perspective. One reason you blindly follow Raila.


What is winning for you ?

Noway, how is Kheson/Xerson going for Putin? What are you hearing? People in the city being interviewed saying there is panic. Compliant citizens voted 98% for Russia, so why sit on them with martial law na wamekubali?

Fleeing from Ukrainians with NATO legacy hand-me-down weapons.

Russians are getting their behinds hammered.  In what they claim is Russian territory.  Still no nukes.