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Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« on: October 10, 2022, 10:28:28 AM »

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2022, 11:56:28 AM »
Why has common sense approach become so hard?? He was to do it on Day 2!!
I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2022, 12:14:54 PM »
Yes he is a nut case...this where he should have started.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2022, 12:29:22 PM »
Again you people dont understand Russias historical background.
Kiev or Kyiv however you want to call it is the genesis of Rus . Thats where Russian Eastern Orthodox originated from when Vladmir the great converted from a Pagan to Orthodox. kiev is a Russian Holy site as to what Mecca is for Saudia and Jerusalem for Jews and Palestines.
He would have wanted to conquer Kiev without attacking it in a manner not damage it. We all know that is next to impossible.
Now having said that yesterday night Russia has missiled many cities in Ukraine destroying the infastructure and in particular Kiev destrying SBU headquarters , expect more missiles tonight. When I warned by attacking Crimea bridge Ukraine had blundered some of you did understand where i was coming from.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2022, 12:41:14 PM »
War is war - mambo na holy site ni baadaye - we want quick resolution to this war without nukes. Putin should either sue for peace or go hard...to force Ukraine to negotiate. What they are doing in guerrilla warfare is postphoning problems :) my bro favourite word.
Again you people dont understand Russias historical background.
Kiev or Kyiv however you want to call it is the genesis of Rus . Thats where Russian Eastern Orthodox originated from when Vladmir the great converted from a Pagan to Orthodox. kiev is a Russian Holy site as to what Mecca is for Saudia and Jerusalem for Jews and Palestines.
He would have wanted to conquer Kiev without attacking it in a manner not damage it. We all know that is next to impossible.
Now having said that yesterday night Russia has missiled many cities in Ukraine destroying the infastructure and in particular Kiev destrying SBU headquarters , expect more missiles tonight. When I warned by attacking Crimea bridge Ukraine had blundered some of you did understand where i was coming from.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2022, 01:57:38 PM »
Apparently, apartments, hospitals,  kindergartens are military targets. What a loser.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2022, 03:01:39 PM »

Western   media mouth piece . Play victim when attacked , play hero when attacking.

Apparently, apartments, hospitals,  kindergartens are military targets. What a loser.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2022, 03:21:00 PM »
Putin should send his troops to capture Kyiv. :o :o :o

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2022, 04:01:33 PM »
If he wanted he could  but his interests are in South Eastern Ukraine Those were New Russia Lands after Catherine conquered them from Turks by then there was no Nation Like Ukraine , Western part of current Ukraine was in AustroHungarian Empire .
Now with majority of Ukrainian army concentrated in South Eastern flanks . He could ask Belarus to support and invade Kiev . However I think he is not interested in that. His end game is clear return Russian NovoRussia lands. Correct Bolsheviks mistakes.

Putin should send his troops to capture Kyiv. :o :o :o

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2022, 04:15:24 PM »
Thanks for your history lessons.
Many nations like Kenya were created just the other day. Does it rob them the right of existence?

If The area around Kyiv was conquered from the Turks, why not give it back to the Turks who were there before the Russians?

If he wanted he could  but his interests are in South Eastern Ukraine Those were New Russia Lands after Catherine conquered them from Turks by then there was no Nation Like Ukraine , Western part of current Ukraine was in AustroHungarian Empire .
Now with majority of Ukrainian army concentrated in South Eastern flanks . He could ask Belarus to support and invade Kiev . However I think he is not interested in that. His end game is clear return Russian NovoRussia lands. Correct Bolsheviks mistakes.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2022, 04:17:17 PM »
This nonsensical shiet. Putin should annex those region because the resident were facing discrimination as Russian speaking Ukraine and referendum was held where they choose to be part of Russia - or secede from Ukraine. That is better than trying to correct old history. That is Hilter Nazism.
If he wanted he could  but his interests are in South Eastern Ukraine Those were New Russia Lands after Catherine conquered them from Turks by then there was no Nation Like Ukraine , Western part of current Ukraine was in AustroHungarian Empire .
Now with majority of Ukrainian army concentrated in South Eastern flanks . He could ask Belarus to support and invade Kiev . However I think he is not interested in that. His end game is clear return Russian NovoRussia lands. Correct Bolsheviks mistakes.

Putin should send his troops to capture Kyiv. :o :o :o

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2022, 04:49:09 PM »
This nonsensical shiet. Putin should annex those region because the resident were facing discrimination as Russian speaking Ukraine and referendum was held where they choose to be part of Russia - or secede from Ukraine. That is better than trying to correct old history. That is Hilter Nazism.
If he wanted he could  but his interests are in South Eastern Ukraine Those were New Russia Lands after Catherine conquered them from Turks by then there was no Nation Like Ukraine , Western part of current Ukraine was in AustroHungarian Empire .
Now with majority of Ukrainian army concentrated in South Eastern flanks . He could ask Belarus to support and invade Kiev . However I think he is not interested in that. His end game is clear return Russian NovoRussia lands. Correct Bolsheviks mistakes.

Putin should send his troops to capture Kyiv. :o :o :o

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2022, 05:02:05 PM »
So when was Kenya created that will answer your question when U.S.S.R boundaries created.


Thanks for your history lessons.
Many nations like Kenya were created just the other day. Does it rob them the right of existence?

If The area around Kyiv was conquered from the Turks, why not give it back to the Turks who were there before the Russians?

If he wanted he could  but his interests are in South Eastern Ukraine Those were New Russia Lands after Catherine conquered them from Turks by then there was no Nation Like Ukraine , Western part of current Ukraine was in AustroHungarian Empire .
Now with majority of Ukrainian army concentrated in South Eastern flanks . He could ask Belarus to support and invade Kiev . However I think he is not interested in that. His end game is clear return Russian NovoRussia lands. Correct Bolsheviks mistakes.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2022, 05:31:11 PM »
President Selensky is a Russian speaking Ukranian from the Eastern part of Ukraine. How do Ukranians elect a president from a region they discriminate against?

Kindly list the number of countries which recognice the four Ukranian regions as now belongint to Russia? I hope China, Russia's alledged ally is on the list. :D

As of the referedum :o

This nonsensical shiet. Putin should annex those region because the resident were facing discrimination as Russian speaking Ukraine and referendum was held where they choose to be part of Russia - or secede from Ukraine. That is better than trying to correct old history. That is Hilter Nazism.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2022, 07:29:40 PM »
All Ukrainians are Russian speaking perhaps with minority of Russian speaking in the west who are Polish speaking. In South Eastern Ukraine exists ethnic Russians who have lived there since Catherine Era.

Zelenski is a Ukrainian Jew . If you study Ukraine nation from 2004 you will realise there has been a Genocide and majority of ethnic Russians have emigrated to Russia proper . so yes places where jews were minority demographics have changed and polish or jew ukranians are majority.

What is recognition . How many countries recognize Crimea as Ukrainian but defacto its Russian .

President Selensky is a Russian speaking Ukranian from the Eastern part of Ukraine. How do Ukranians elect a president from a region they discriminate against?

Kindly list the number of countries which recognice the four Ukranian regions as now belongint to Russia? I hope China, Russia's alledged ally is on the list. :D

As of the referedum :o

This nonsensical shiet. Putin should annex those region because the resident were facing discrimination as Russian speaking Ukraine and referendum was held where they choose to be part of Russia - or secede from Ukraine. That is better than trying to correct old history. That is Hilter Nazism.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2022, 08:20:49 AM »
I believe Putin is very much aware of Nato game plan so he has chosen to prolong the war till European economies collapse or force regime change in those country. Putin is calculative and methodical forget what mainshit media tells you. Kiev attack will create another 2 - 3 million refugees, Will neighboring countries be able to absorb that? This throws off the comedian and mainshit media Ukraine is winning nonsense.  This war ended the minute Nato refused to send troops in Ukraine. No need to prolong Ukrainian suffering they should just surrender accept to be Russian mbish.
Yes he is a nut case...this where he should have started.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2022, 09:00:38 AM »
The problem is our african economies are also collapsing - and that is where we draw the line. We want a winner. NATO or Putin should escalate this war enough to get negotiation going on without using nukes. So if it mean Putin attacking more Ukraine cities - go for it.
I believe Putin is very much aware of Nato game plan so he has chosen to prolong the war till European economies collapse or force regime change in those country. Putin is calculative and methodical forget what mainshit media tells you. Kiev attack will create another 2 - 3 million refugees, Will neighboring countries be able to absorb that? This throws off the comedian and mainshit media Ukraine is winning nonsense.  This war ended the minute Nato refused to send troops in Ukraine. No need to prolong Ukrainian suffering they should just surrender accept to be Russian mbish.
Yes he is a nut case...this where he should have started.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2022, 10:12:06 AM »
Another way to look at it is if European stop sending Ammo and toys to the comedian he will have no choice but surrender. I think for Putin it's not a war of muscles only but heart and minds too. For him to win Ukrainian while bombing them he has to bite n blow small small.
The problem is our african economies are also collapsing - and that is where we draw the line. We want a winner. NATO or Putin should escalate this war enough to get negotiation going on without using nukes. So if it mean Putin attacking more Ukraine cities - go for it.
I believe Putin is very much aware of Nato game plan so he has chosen to prolong the war till European economies collapse or force regime change in those country. Putin is calculative and methodical forget what mainshit media tells you. Kiev attack will create another 2 - 3 million refugees, Will neighboring countries be able to absorb that? This throws off the comedian and mainshit media Ukraine is winning nonsense.  This war ended the minute Nato refused to send troops in Ukraine. No need to prolong Ukrainian suffering they should just surrender accept to be Russian mbish.
Yes he is a nut case...this where he should have started.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2022, 11:13:38 AM »
Is Putin winning?

Another way to look at it is if European stop sending Ammo and toys to the comedian he will have no choice but surrender. I think for Putin it's not a war of muscles only but heart and minds too. For him to win Ukrainian while bombing them he has to bite n blow small small.

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Re: Putin decides to go for Kyiv
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2022, 11:22:21 AM »
One missile costs $13M. Yesterday Russia released 84 of them. That is 84x13 = 1,092M. $1Billion gone up in smoke. For what?
Only 19 dead.... Did the frontline move in their favor? Big No. HASIRA HASARA. Half of those missiles never reached their target because they were intercepted. Such useless intelligence. Zelensky was out in the boulevard and streets walking about addressing his countrymen. The Russians don't even have the coordinates of the office of Kiev mayor Vitali Klitschko former professional boxer - Heavy weight world champion, who also was up and about thumbing his nose at Putin. Instead Putin hit nursery schools - his idea of strategic targets?????
If Russia was benevolent, they could channel the $1B to Africa but even then we know Russia could use the same in alleviating poverty at home. Every time Putin carries out actions out of Anger, things just get worse for him. If they thought attacking Ukraine would stop NATO expansion ... nay Now Finland & Sweden formerly neutral joined NATO. Attacking Ukraine with 84 missiles was dumb. Now America will provide Ukraine with a defense system as good as the one Israel has. If Ukraine was to run they would have run in February when the fire power they had was minimal yet enough to turn back invading Russian forces. Someone said this war will be over by New year's eve. Biden has made it clear after Russia launched its best conventional weapons yesterday that he will NOT stop arming Ukraine. Crushing defeat for Russia awaits weeks down the line. Russian men on the other other heard of partial mobilization and they packed their bags.
Another way to look at it is if European stop sending Ammo and toys to the comedian he will have no choice but surrender. I think for Putin it's not a war of muscles only but heart and minds too. For him to win Ukrainian while bombing them he has to bite n blow small small.
The problem is our african economies are also collapsing - and that is where we draw the line. We want a winner. NATO or Putin should escalate this war enough to get negotiation going on without using nukes. So if it mean Putin attacking more Ukraine cities - go for it.
I believe Putin is very much aware of Nato game plan so he has chosen to prolong the war till European economies collapse or force regime change in those country. Putin is calculative and methodical forget what mainshit media tells you. Kiev attack will create another 2 - 3 million refugees, Will neighboring countries be able to absorb that? This throws off the comedian and mainshit media Ukraine is winning nonsense.  This war ended the minute Nato refused to send troops in Ukraine. No need to prolong Ukrainian suffering they should just surrender accept to be Russian mbish.
Yes he is a nut case...this where he should have started.