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Putin got outmatched by BIDEN
KenyanPlato:
This was high chess game. Biden called putin bluff and united nato and their allies to put pressure on putin. He goofed big time. Biden leveled it with Americans letting them know that war was the last option but if war is forced on him he knows the cost.
Putin is trying to run away from his own mess at home. Covid has decimated his economy and any trust Russians had on him keeping the lights on in Russia. He know has to go full dictatorial to avoid summer of discontent in Russia
He has now to eat up the mobilization cost of over 100k troops. All America did was threaten him with embargo on gas sales.
The difference of someone experienced in diplomacy is they say less and achieve more. If this was Trump he would have been all over barking like a rabid dog
mankind:
Take a chill pill buddy Russia is not Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan . You need friends in the military and economists to tell you what most of us know, a war with Russia is suicide even without conventional weapons. Sanctions against Russia would destroy the European economies and the accompanied retaliation by Russia would send the world economy to a recession because of high gas and oil prices. Just do a simple research on who between the Chinese and us here has suffered the most economically from the silly trade war. Inflation in the US is at 7.5% while it is 1.5% in China while the trade deficit has gone up more than 30% in favor of China. This Ukrainian issue will end the same way the Cuban crisis ended where the US will give Putin most of what he wanted but quietly like they did when they removed those Jupiter missiles from Turkey but agreed to make it secret to save face. If you have been following what the European leaders are saying lately including by the German Chancellor today ,Ukraine's membership of Nato wont happen any time during his rule. So don't get too exited by the madness being peddled by the military industrial complex as they make billions out of arms sales. Last year alone those fuckers got 400 billion out of the 700 plus billion defense budget. Lockheed alone received more money than the state department so you know why diplomacy is not good business for them. European companies are so intertwined with Russian business I was surprised that Italy alone has almost 500 companies involved with Russia alone , now imagine how large that number is for Germany.
I will leave you with a military point of view from a military guy for you to educate yourself before you get carried away by the cool aide you are being fed by our fellow Americans.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/548322-war-russia-us-nato/
Stockguru:
--- Quote from: mankind on February 16, 2022, 03:37:26 AM --- Take a chill pill buddy Russia is not Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan . You need friends in the military and economists to tell you what most of us know, a war with Russia is suicide even without conventional weapons. Sanctions against Russia would destroy the European economies and the accompanied retaliation by Russia would send the world economy to a recession because of high gas and oil prices. Just do a simple research on who between the Chinese and us here has suffered the most economically from the silly trade war. Inflation in the US is at 7.5% while it is 1.5% in China while the trade deficit has gone up more than 30% in favor of China. This Ukrainian issue will end the same way the Cuban crisis ended where the US will give Putin most of what he wanted but quietly like they did when they removed those Jupiter missiles from Turkey but agreed to make it secret to save face. If you have been following what the European leaders are saying lately including by the German Chancellor today ,Ukraine's membership of Nato wont happen any time during his rule. So don't get too exited by the madness being peddled by the military industrial complex as they make billions out of arms sales. Last year alone those fuckers got 400 billion out of the 700 plus billion defense budget. Lockheed alone received more money than the state department so you know why diplomacy is not good business for them. European companies are so intertwined with Russian business I was surprised that Italy alone has almost 500 companies involved with Russia alone , now imagine how large that number is for Germany.
I will leave you with a military point of view from a military guy for you to educate yourself before you get carried away by the cool aide you are being fed by our fellow Americans.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/548322-war-russia-us-nato/
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BS - Russia has no capacity to wage a war against USA. it can only try to bully her former colonies but they would foolish to engage US. One thing with US is that it done with the nonsense of fighting long drawn wars.
Afghanistan, IRAQ were quick wins by the military.. the only thing that failed was Nation building in Afghanistan. Otherwise if was a matter of winning militarily that was won within the first few weeks of that war
Russia Economy is shit. Putin is only surviving because he has the gun behind his peoples head otherwise he would be dead. This summer may be the beginning of his end. He has now been exposed and if there is anyone in Russia especially within his inner circle who is ambitious time to hit him is now. I wont be suprised the military just sends him a note during summer vacation not to return to moscow
Nowayhaha:
LOL
--- Quote from: KenyanPlato on February 16, 2022, 01:31:36 AM ---This was high chess game. Biden called putin bluff and united nato and their allies to put pressure on putin. He goofed big time. Biden leveled it with Americans letting them know that war was the last option but if war is forced on him he knows the cost.
Putin is trying to run away from his own mess at home. Covid has decimated his economy and any trust Russians had on him keeping the lights on in Russia. He know has to go full dictatorial to avoid summer of discontent in Russia
He has now to eat up the mobilization cost of over 100k troops. All America did was threaten him with embargo on gas sales.
The difference of someone experienced in diplomacy is they say less and achieve more. If this was Trump he would have been all over barking like a rabid dog
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Nowayhaha:
exposure is really a good thing.
--- Quote from: Stockguru on February 16, 2022, 03:47:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: mankind on February 16, 2022, 03:37:26 AM --- Take a chill pill buddy Russia is not Iraq, Libya or Afghanistan . You need friends in the military and economists to tell you what most of us know, a war with Russia is suicide even without conventional weapons. Sanctions against Russia would destroy the European economies and the accompanied retaliation by Russia would send the world economy to a recession because of high gas and oil prices. Just do a simple research on who between the Chinese and us here has suffered the most economically from the silly trade war. Inflation in the US is at 7.5% while it is 1.5% in China while the trade deficit has gone up more than 30% in favor of China. This Ukrainian issue will end the same way the Cuban crisis ended where the US will give Putin most of what he wanted but quietly like they did when they removed those Jupiter missiles from Turkey but agreed to make it secret to save face. If you have been following what the European leaders are saying lately including by the German Chancellor today ,Ukraine's membership of Nato wont happen any time during his rule. So don't get too exited by the madness being peddled by the military industrial complex as they make billions out of arms sales. Last year alone those fuckers got 400 billion out of the 700 plus billion defense budget. Lockheed alone received more money than the state department so you know why diplomacy is not good business for them. European companies are so intertwined with Russian business I was surprised that Italy alone has almost 500 companies involved with Russia alone , now imagine how large that number is for Germany.
I will leave you with a military point of view from a military guy for you to educate yourself before you get carried away by the cool aide you are being fed by our fellow Americans.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/548322-war-russia-us-nato/
--- End quote ---
BS - Russia has no capacity to wage a war against USA. it can only try to bully her former colonies but they would foolish to engage US. One thing with US is that it done with the nonsense of fighting long drawn wars.
Afghanistan, IRAQ were quick wins by the military.. the only thing that failed was Nation building in Afghanistan. Otherwise if was a matter of winning militarily that was won within the first few weeks of that war
Russia Economy is shit. Putin is only surviving because he has the gun behind his peoples head otherwise he would be dead. This summer may be the beginning of his end. He has now been exposed and if there is anyone in Russia especially within his inner circle who is ambitious time to hit him is now. I wont be suprised the military just sends him a note during summer vacation not to return to moscow
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