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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on February 24, 2021, 06:24:09 PM

Title: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 24, 2021, 06:24:09 PM
The way he has handled covid has finally convinced he that he is the wrong person to be in charge in TZ. Also, the violence he meted subjected opposition to and the current persection shows he is a dangerous fool. Yaani he has killed all dissent leaving no voice of reason.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jadwong/status/1364438639883800581
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 24, 2021, 07:00:18 PM
Raila is worse than Magufool but you don't seem to realize just how reckless he can be.
The way he has handled covid has finally convinced he that he is the wrong person to be in charge in TZ. Also, the violence he meted subjected opposition to and the current persection shows he is a dangerous fool. Yaani he has killed all dissent leaving no voice of reason.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jadwong/status/1364438639883800581
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 24, 2021, 07:25:26 PM
Raila is erractic as hell. I would not trust him to work alone. He needs a core group that would manage him. I think Raila only quality is that he is a team player. He can listen. MANGUFULI seems to have a very ego centric way of seeing,things. I blame CCM. They should censure or find a way to contain him. I beleive without ccm mangfool wont be able to do what he is doing. Raila should be one term president and that is it.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Kirgit on February 24, 2021, 07:51:07 PM
Magufuli has remained very focused despite some NGO funded kenyans working overtime to paint him as a failed leadership. Magufuli shrewdly threw Rao under bus after noticing he's "uhuru" trojan.

Bill gates vaccine funded BBC and aljazeera are also working hard at driving the narative.

The whole ecosystem is all about interests...where ngo and think tanks together with media cook a good environment for money making.

Funny how malaria and other more deadliest tropic deaseases is no longer problem. We are now full blown war on covid.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: GeeMail on February 24, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Magufuli has remained very focused despite some NGO funded kenyans working overtime to paint him as a failed leadership. Magufuli shrewdly threw Rao under bus after noticing he's "uhuru" trojan.

Bill gates vaccine funded BBC and aljazeera are also working hard at driving the narative.

The whole ecosystem is all about interests...where ngo and think tanks together with media cook a good environment for money making.

Funny how malaria and other more deadliest tropic deaseases is no longer problem. We are now full blown war on covid.

Couldn't have put it better. The media are fully compromised.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 24, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
The way he has handled covid has finally convinced he that he is the wrong person to be in charge in TZ. Also, the violence he meted subjected opposition to and the current persection shows he is a dangerous fool. Yaani he has killed all dissent leaving no voice of reason.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jadwong/status/1364438639883800581 (https://mobile.twitter.com/Jadwong/status/1364438639883800581)

Magufuli is a good lesson.  I have no doubt he has good intentions and is operating on good faith.  But he is an ideologue and a micro-manager.  He can't absorb criticism, even the constructive kind.  He is clueless about how to make lasting change.  Instead of strategically empowering certain institutions, he goes about his work like a foreman.  He is a bit like Trump, but with good intentions.  He cannot fathom TZ working without his direct input in every small detail.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 24, 2021, 08:22:41 PM
There is no doubt he has good intentions but road to hell is paved with good intentions. He is a dictator who doesn't listen to anyone.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 24, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
Raila is erractic as hell. I would not trust him to work alone. He needs a core group that would manage him. I think Raila only quality is that he is a team player. He can listen. MANGUFULI seems to have a very ego centric way of seeing,things. I blame CCM. They should censure or find a way to contain him. I beleive without ccm mangfool wont be able to do what he is doing. Raila should be one term president and that is it.
See how he run Luo nyanza.Raila as pork will not be a team player but magufuli dictator with his passionate supporters completing the mess.Just wait and see...if he pork..mutalia sana because Luos will run amok..they will take your slum scrapers and there is nothing you'll do. In kidero 5yrs they overrun kikuyus in eastland..they grab properties with kifua.One term ni yako.After 35yrs in power you think Luos will take 5.i can predict civil war.Uganda and south Sudan...way
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on February 25, 2021, 06:38:13 AM

Magufuli is a good lesson.  I have no doubt he has good intentions and is operating on good faith.  But he is an ideologue and a micro-manager.  He can't absorb criticism, even the constructive kind.  He is clueless about how to make lasting change.  Instead of strategically empowering certain institutions, he goes about his work like a foreman.  He is a bit like Trump, but with good intentions.  He cannot fathom TZ working without his direct input in every small detail.

He is desperately trying to recreate Rwanda style magic but he has none of the nous and intellectual heft needed to create a Rwanda style revolution in TZ. Kagame is a free marketeer who believes in low taxes, light regulation, receptiveness to foreign investment, respect for property rights and small government the opposite of Mangufool is doing.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on February 25, 2021, 06:44:33 AM
See how he run Luo nyanza.Raila as pork will not be a team player but magufuli dictator with his passionate supporters completing the mess.Just wait and see...if he pork..mutalia sana because Luos will run amok..they will take your slum scrapers and there is nothing you'll do. In kidero 5yrs they overrun kikuyus in eastland..they grab properties with kifua.One term ni yako.After 35yrs in power you think Luos will take 5.i can predict civil war.Uganda and south Sudan...way

 :16:

Luo bogeyman schtick once again. I told you even Kiuks have outgrown that nonsense, word to FNB. We have had 21 years of Kalenjin dictatorship & impoverishment, that is enough for most Kenyans. Stick to running track and field. We will only consider Kale president after 250 years if Kenya even exists then. We need one Raila term to cleanse this country, tosha.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 08:11:44 AM
Kale/kikuyu humility and maturity is what runs an heterogeneous country..not jaluo pride and immaturity..that is what Uganda went through and Sudan now.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: audacityofhope on February 25, 2021, 10:52:41 AM
Kale/kikuyu humility and maturity is what runs an heterogeneous country..not jaluo pride and immaturity..that is what Uganda went through and Sudan now.
Some kale run down this country for 24 years and someone here is still talking of kales. Kweli Nyani haoni kundule ... in this case take it literally
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 11:04:18 AM
Kale/kikuyu humility and maturity is what runs an heterogeneous country..not jaluo pride and immaturity..that is what Uganda went through and Sudan now.
Some kale run down this country for 24 years and someone here is still talking of kales. Kweli Nyani haoni kundule ... in this case take it literally
Moi was successful compared to his contemporaries in that period..Kenya was an oasis of peace n progress in the period of coups, civil wars and genocide .if jaramogi was pork Kenya would be somalia.ask museveni about Uganda luos.This is why Raila has not become pork
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kadudu on February 25, 2021, 11:06:06 AM
Typical Kenyans. We start discussing Pombe Magafuli and we end up with local ethnic snare.

At least Tanzania has left Kenya very far when it comes to ethnic issues. Does anyone here know to which ethnic group Magafuli belongs? Anyway, the man is too much full of himself. I thought he would take Tz in the right direction, but with covid-19 he lost direction completely. I hope his managing of this pandemic brings the issue of a third term for him to a halt.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 11:07:39 AM
The day he demanded 5b dollars tax from barrick gold I knew he was a nut case.investor left .the country economically is in turmoil..but he like moi is all over the map.he fakes economic data every year because he cannot believe his magic ward is not working. The man is total disaster. Kikwete was growing economy at 7 percent
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kadudu on February 25, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
Typical Pundit. Everything that is Kalejin is gold and everything that is Luo is shit.
Jaramogi never ruled Kenya, so you cannot judge a man that never had a chance to prove himself. At least he was a man enough to resign when he could no longer see eye to eye with his boss. Can one say the same with William Ruto?

Moi was successful compared to his contemporaries in that period..Kenya was an oasis of peace n progress in the period of coups, civil wars and genocide .if jaramogi was pork Kenya would be somalia.ask museveni about Uganda luos.This is why Raila has not become pork
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
He never became pork because he was not smart enough to become one..just like Raila.Moi like Ruto befriended gema and took their time..jaramogi was so reckless and ambitious
 he fell out less than 2yrs.Raila fell out with Kibaki 2yrs later.Ruto is clicking his 9th year as Dpork .Moi did 12yrs as vp and 24 yrs.Take take very strategic and tactical mind like kalenjin culture teaches.Ruto is looking at 10yrs as pork..hii ingine ni kuvumilia tu
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kadudu on February 25, 2021, 12:52:44 PM
Why are you counting your chickens before they hatch? Wait till August 2022, then you can brag here how smart Ruto is. As far as I am concerned, Ruto is still No. 2 in the state hierachy. Many people have been there before him.

He never became pork because he was not smart enough to become one..just like Raila.Moi like Ruto befriended gema and took their time..jaramogi was so reckless and ambitious
 he fell out less than 2yrs.Raila fell out with Kibaki 2yrs later.Ruto is clicking his 9th year as Dpork .Moi did 12yrs as vp and 24 yrs.Take take very strategic and tactical mind like kalenjin culture teaches.Ruto is looking at 10yrs as pork..hii ingine ni kuvumilia tu
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 01:16:03 PM
Ruto is the clear front runner but maybe Raila will pull a suprise
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 25, 2021, 05:36:12 PM
Typical Kenyans. We start discussing Pombe Magafuli and we end up with local ethnic snare.

At least Tanzania has left Kenya very far when it comes to ethnic issues. Does anyone here know to which ethnic group Magafuli belongs? Anyway, the man is too much full of himself. I thought he would take Tz in the right direction, but with covid-19 he lost direction completely. I hope his managing of this pandemic brings the issue of a third term for him to a halt.

Magufuli is a Sukuma, the largest tribe in TZ.  The other guys have been from small tribes, so they could not recruit their tribesmen to hang on.  Let's wait and see how Magufuli behaves when his time is really up.
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Kichwa on February 25, 2021, 07:03:11 PM
How is Ruto a front Runner now that the Kikuyu vote is gone.

Ruto is the clear front runner but maybe Raila will pull a suprise
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 25, 2021, 07:20:00 PM
Gone to Raila I guess ? Stop kidding yourself

How is Ruto a front Runner now that the Kikuyu vote is gone.

Ruto is the clear front runner but maybe Raila will pull a suprise
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 25, 2021, 11:24:46 PM
where did they go.
How is Ruto a front Runner now that the Kikuyu vote is gone.

Ruto is the clear front runner but maybe Raila will pull a suprise
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: audacityofhope on February 26, 2021, 06:52:54 AM
where did they go.
How is Ruto a front Runner now that the Kikuyu vote is gone.

Ruto is the clear front runner but maybe Raila will pull a suprise
WSR has been parading his MPs, MCAs in short, "his numbers". Just wondering where those numbers went ....
MCAs or county assemblies don't exist in a vacuum... 2010 constitution: power is exercised directly or through elected Representatives. So me I have my popcorn. I expect to be told the Kikuyu vote is not equal to what mlima MCAs represent. 2022 is not far. Someone post that post Super Tuesday press conference held by mlima politicians ...
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: audacityofhope on February 26, 2021, 07:05:08 AM
Kale/kikuyu humility and maturity is what runs an heterogeneous country..not jaluo pride and immaturity..that is what Uganda went through and Sudan now.
Some kale run down this country for 24 years and someone here is still talking of kales. Kweli Nyani haoni kundule ... in this case take it literally
Moi was successful compared to his contemporaries in that period..Kenya was an oasis of peace n progress in the period of coups, civil wars and genocide .if jaramogi was pork Kenya would be somalia.ask museveni about Uganda luos.This is why Raila has not become pork
Even those who are on your side in this forum like @Nowayhaha, @Njuri @gout etc will not support you on this one. Pundit has lost it now. Can't acknowledge simple facts even when they smack him right in the face. We are not here on Veritas blog to argue just for the sake...
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 26, 2021, 08:14:22 AM
MCAs voted for their own self interest - MCA fund, MCA becoming part of executive and more devolved funds. What is so hard to understand. Ruto support is from grassroot. Not from Mps or leaders. Ruto himself has been keen to string a husttler - common man - narrative and it's working.

This is Nyeri post MCA passing BBI


WSR has been parading his MPs, MCAs in short, "his numbers". Just wondering where those numbers went ....
MCAs or county assemblies don't exist in a vacuum... 2010 constitution: power is exercised directly or through elected Representatives. So me I have my popcorn. I expect to be told the Kikuyu vote is not equal to what mlima MCAs represent. 2022 is not far. Someone post that post Super Tuesday press conference held by mlima politicians ...
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: RV Pundit on February 26, 2021, 08:16:36 AM
Here is how the people at ground feel  - they don't feel BBI
As the county boss cruised across the streets waving to residents atop his fuel guzzler, everyone simply went on about their business and completely ignored his presence
https://www.cnyakundi.com/video-unbothered-kiambu-residents-embarrass-governor-nyoro-in-broad-daylight/
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 26, 2021, 08:58:41 AM

Im on record here saying Moi was a success from 1978 to 1988 , a dissaster from 1988 to 2002, Im also on record saying Uhuru was a success from 2013 to 2017 only 4 years , but a dissaster there after.

The difference between Moi , Uhuru vs Kibaki is simple , Kibaki was never distracted by politics he stayed focused to goal of economic empowerment. Moi was fearfull of losing power by 1988 , he decided to focus on politics therein came people who took advantage of him. Same can be said of Uhuru , he got distracted by politics his biggest fear became losing family wealth which they have acquired by using Mt Kenya as rhe pawns. His focus is now is safeguard that , in doing so we are back in the 90s if not worse .
Ruto is a good balancer , lucky for him he will inherit a battered economy , people without hope it will be easy for him and vissible to Kenyans the chamge he will make. Once the youth start getting money and get employed  that will  be so enlarged that just like Kibaki people will start singing Ruto praises

Kale/kikuyu humility and maturity is what runs an heterogeneous country..not jaluo pride and immaturity..that is what Uganda went through and Sudan now.
Some kale run down this country for 24 years and someone here is still talking of kales. Kweli Nyani haoni kundule ... in this case take it literally
Moi was successful compared to his contemporaries in that period..Kenya was an oasis of peace n progress in the period of coups, civil wars and genocide .if jaramogi was pork Kenya would be somalia.ask museveni about Uganda luos.This is why Raila has not become pork
Even those who are on your side in this forum like @Nowayhaha, @Njuri @gout etc will not support you on this one. Pundit has lost it now. Can't acknowledge simple facts even when they smack him right in the face. We are not here on Veritas blog to argue just for the sake...
Title: Re: Pundit you were right about mangfool
Post by: gout on February 26, 2021, 12:32:30 PM
There is still no answer to the virus. Whether Trump or Biden, Magufuli or ufool.

Looking at the Kenyan political class activities, rallies, there is no difference between Magufool and ufool scientifically and politically.

Same way Magufool has used the virus to beat down opposition is same way ufoo is using the virus for political clampdown and looting.

Economically, magufool has allowed hustle to continue while ufool has killed the hustle. Once the loans servicing moratorium we will see the first real avalanche as landlords go crazy; auctioneers galore; saccos collapse, banks wipe out.

Just like M7 I bet our political class is already vaccinated, the virus will still take out 4-5% of the political class health weaklings.