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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on September 04, 2014, 11:36:13 AM

Title: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Omollo on September 04, 2014, 11:36:13 AM
Yaani if this is true, this woman needs to spend the rest of her life in Prison. Finally we see how our borders are porous. I wonder how much she paid to get her son through.

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Liberian pupil with Ebola-like symptoms hospitalised in Nakuru BY MERCY KAHENDA Updated Thursday, September 4th 2014 at 11:08 GMT +3 Share this story: Nakuru, Kenya: A 10 year-old Liberian pupil has been admitted at Rift valley provincial general hospital in Nakuru after showing symptoms of deadly Ebola virus.

According to the nursing officer in charge at the hospital Alphaxard Kemboi,  Joshua Saka was referred to Rift valley provincial general hospital from Valley Hospital where he had been taken from Greensteds International School.

Kemboi said the minor had a headache, fever and vomiting when he sought medication at the school’s dispensary prompting the school nurse to refer him to Valley hospital.

The nurse allegedly said the minor and her mother had tried to enter Kenya through JKIA but were denied entry at the airport nine days ago. It is then that they headed to Burundi and managed to fly into the country on Monday.

Kemboi said samples from the minor have been taken to Kenya Medical Research Institute for testing and are expecting results on Thursday.

Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000133734/liberian-pupil-with-ebola-like-symptoms-hospitalised-in-nakuru
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: RV Pundit on September 04, 2014, 11:39:54 AM
Holy crap. Gov should quickly move and quarantine the high school; the hospitals and anyone who has come to contact with those guys.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: machoman on September 04, 2014, 11:54:13 AM
This disease is going to spread fast across africa
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Mintos on September 04, 2014, 11:55:47 AM
ha! you should see how the job is being done at JKIA. Kienyeji vibaya sana you'd wonder if Kenya is really serious. The other day I got back to NBO from Cairo on Egypt Air at 3.45 am. The immigration officers were either asleep or dozing at that time. At the counter, they just gave us some forms on ebola screening to fill and that was it heheheh.  Now how about at the border points at Lungalunga, Loitokitok, Namanga, Busia and Malaba?
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Tarimbo on September 04, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
wololololooooo
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Kababe on September 04, 2014, 12:48:40 PM
Mwadhani!!!!! Our night mares are coming true. :( :(
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Nuff Sed on September 04, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
If Ebola enters Kenya, the ministry of public health and the individuals involved will be sued to the last penny. At some point KQ, KAA and the other ethnic enclaves charged with immigration and border security will have to answer tough questions.Wasn't immigration handed over to a hardworking general the other day?
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: michaeljoseph on September 04, 2014, 01:25:31 PM
All,

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Oliver Mathenge™ @OliverMathenge
Ebola tests on the Nakuru case are negative - Doctors.

I think the lady and her child should be prosecuted and forcefully deported back to Burundi.  Also, are their checks in place to identify similar cases e.g. Simply check the visitors passport to see if they have been in high risk areas in the last say 6 months.  Also, make it a criminal offence to lie to an immigration officer. 

The two were just trying to get a safe place BUT that is the same twisted logic used by the  gentleman who brought the virus to Nigeria. 

Their should be nothing but outrage from Kenyans in regards to the callous way our boarders are being handled.
MJ
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: RV Pundit on September 04, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
Thank goodness. Wake up call for border controls. The lady should be tried and thrown into kamiti for endangering many lives.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Nuff Sed on September 04, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Jubliars are just jubliars. Now they are condemning some hapless woman and her child but not the airline and its president who allowed numerous plane loads of passengers in and out of the country from West Africa. Does anybody remember how Jubliars defended Uhuru's stand on KQ's obstinacy to operate the West Africa circuit? KQ and KAA exposed Kenya to Ebola many times over and it is possible actual cases of Ebola sneaked into Kenya unnoticed. They have said tests show it is not Ebola but remember we are dealing with JUBLIARs.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: RV Pundit on September 04, 2014, 02:18:53 PM
The lady was detected and rejected. She flew to Burundi and sneaked in. We can blame jubilee but this ebola will not chose parties. It is upon all kenyans working in immigration, health,police and borders to do their job.

This is about you and me. We can go partisan on other issues.

Jubliars are just jubliars. Now they are condemning some hapless woman and her child but not the airline and its president who allowed numerous plane loads of passengers in and out of the country from West Africa. Does anybody remember how Jubliars defended Uhuru's stand on KQ's obstinacy to operate the West Africa circuit? KQ and KAA exposed Kenya to Ebola many times over and it is possible actual cases of Ebola sneaked into Kenya unnoticed. They have said tests show it is not Ebola but remember we are dealing with JUBLIARs.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Nuff Sed on September 04, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
Obviously this is about you and me that's why all the noise about the woman alone does not satisfy.

Some passengers arriving in Nairobi aboard different airlines said they did not go through any screening for Ebola at the airport, raising concerns over how the health directive is being implemented.

“I flew in from Lagos through Accra and arrived in Nairobi on Saturday morning,” a man who requested anonymity told the Sunday Nation.

“We had to wait in Accra for an hour for our connecting flight because it had been delayed. When we boarded, we found some passengers already on board. We learnt that they were coming from Freetown. I asked one of the crew members and she told me people do not need to be tested for Ebola when leaving their country.”

The flight landed in Nairobi on Saturday morning at 7 am, though the official arrival time should have been 5.30 am.

Asked whether passengers from his flight were taken through a separate screening door, the man said: “No such thing happened. In fact, I learnt about the new measures on the news at home.”

Kenya Airways has taken precautions and announced that all passengers travelling from Freetown, Monrovia, Accra, Lagos, and Abuja will undergo temperature checks at the points of departure


http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-184597/kq-will-not-suspend-flights-west-africa-over-ebola-uhuru-says-world-should-not
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: MatiaKing on September 04, 2014, 02:37:43 PM

A mother will do everything in her power for her child. Looking on the bright side, a testament for health facilities in Kenya. This mother rejected Burundi, Uganda, Rwanda & made sure she arrived in Kenya. Wish the boy quick recovery as the mother seems OK?
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: MatiaKing on September 04, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
All,

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Oliver Mathenge™ @OliverMathenge
Ebola tests on the Nakuru case are negative - Doctors.

I think the lady and her child should be prosecuted and forcefully deported back to Burundi.  Also, are their checks in place to identify similar cases e.g. Simply check the visitors passport to see if they have been in high risk areas in the last say 6 months.  Also, make it a criminal offence to lie to an immigration officer. 

The two were just trying to get a safe place BUT that is the same twisted logic used by the  gentleman who brought the virus to Nigeria. 

Their should be nothing but outrage from Kenyans in regards to the callous way our boarders are being handled.
MJ


It has entered before via Uganda & patient treated at Moi Referral Eldy. Last year I believe
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Brynn on September 04, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
It doesn't make sense to send potential Ebola carriers on a gospel mission. If he has the deadly virus the gospel of Ebola will soon spread to the whole of East and Central Africa. Rejecting a sick minor is just silly. Isolate and treat otherwise you get hit with a boomerang when chicken come home to roost.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: michaeljoseph on September 04, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
All,
Kenya being part of the EAC needs to send a protest note to Burundi in regards to this incident.  Its very callous of Burundi to allow transit of persons from high risk areas to their jiranis place without due process.   Its maddening that checks are not being done in OUR OWN COUNTRY based on what has been posted here.  The rate with which Ebola spreads and our ( EA) way of life means that the virus will spread like wildfire.

Ebola cannot and should not be approached from an individuals countries perspective, It must be tackled from a regional perspective. Is anyone concerned that cases of Ebola have been reported in the congo? Where is the surveillance ama the concerns of KEnyans will be dismissed as jubilee BS?
>:(  MJ
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: anarchista on September 04, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
The lady is legally in the country- what are you going to charge her with? That she may or may not have a child infected with the ebola virus   ;D

You all should relax, do as MoH advices: wash your hands and all will be fresh




Yaani if this is true, this woman needs to spend the rest of her life in Prison. Finally we see how our borders are porous. I wonder how much she paid to get her son through.

Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Georgesoros on September 04, 2014, 04:04:46 PM
People
do not jump into conlusions here. There are a million viruses that may be confused for ebola, so unless the lab confirms it, do not spread rumors. Recently a guy from West Africa landed in NYC and it took three days to confirm it was not the virus.
He has a virus, but we dont know which one. Most of the times it will clear - unless its ebola.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Brynn on September 04, 2014, 04:05:18 PM
Mj

Please agree with me that sending a potential carrier back into public is beyond dumb. I can see why angered Burundi thought Kenya was the best place to send him back to :-).
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: michaeljoseph on September 04, 2014, 04:09:42 PM
B,
Respectfully, the lady and teenage son are ok.  They tested negative.  I say Kenya take this up with Burundi and have other EA countries agree the need to increase vigilance. I think it was not OK to allow a high risk individual showing symptoms transit to a friendly country.  The two should have been examined at that particular port of call. 
MJ


Mj

Please agree with me that sending a potential carrier back into public is beyond dumb. I can see why angered Burundi thought Kenya was the best place to send him back to :-).
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: anarchista on September 04, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
Shouldn't Burundi be charging Kenya with routing her there in the first place? All Burundi did was 'return to sender'

As a side note, If the son had the virus at the infectious stage, do the math:

everyone on the flight to Nairobi
their family and friends
office colleagues
their family and friends
repeat ad infinitum

everyone on the flight to Burundi
bla bla bla

everyone on flight back to Nairobi? (is that how she got in?)
bla bla bla

Uhuru would remain in Mombasa and jionis after pombe and bhangi will be saying pwani si Kenya

All,
Kenya being part of the EAC needs to send a protest note to Burundi in regards to this incident.  Its very callous of Burundi to allow transit of persons from high risk areas to their jiranis place without due process.   
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Brynn on September 04, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
Just from ONE rogue carrier alone, less than 30 days later port hartcout Nigeria is still dealing with 17 confirmed cases, 271 quarantined and an unknown number of suspected carriers expected to pop us as new cases anywhere in Nigeria anytime. Africa's demise is *uafrica. Perfect infrastructure to spread a disease like Ebola.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: mya88 on September 04, 2014, 04:27:04 PM
And i remember very well Pundit saying this ebola isnt a problem.....oh not so long ago. I hope this is the wake up call Kenay needed.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Nuff Sed on September 04, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
We are potentially dealing with hundreds if not thousands of passengers from West Africa released into the public in Kenya because obstinate people refused to listen when they were warned about flights to West Africa. Something needs to be done about the Liberian child's case, but read my story in the thread up there. KQ, KAA and their bosses released thousands of passengers from West Africa into Kenya without proper or any screening. Screaming about this single case is a sledgehammer on a mosquito.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: Georgesoros on September 04, 2014, 04:58:20 PM
Most of the times health dept doesnt even have a clear protocol on how to deal with such diseases. They just fly by wire.

Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: RV Pundit on September 04, 2014, 05:00:58 PM
I was completely wrong. One incident of Ebola is an epidemic and a disaster. I personally use to write early warning softwares for govs. And in my code..any single incident of Ebola..is DISASTER.
And i remember very well Pundit saying this ebola isnt a problem.....oh not so long ago. I hope this is the wake up call Kenay needed.
Title: Re: Ebola Enters Nakuru Kenya : Via Burundi??
Post by: obienga on September 04, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
The solution should be simple, equal pre-screening and screening of all visitors regardless of origin, Ebola is now in DRC meaning Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania and Uganda are possible new avenues. There is nothing that stops an infected individual from buying multiple tickets to get to their destination.