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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on February 17, 2020, 09:42:18 AM
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BBI rallies conclude in March.
Somehow BBI 2.0 is unleashed and the team draft the bill by then.
Signature collections btw March - June.
The referendum in June.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/BBI-rallies-end-in-March-says-Raila/1064-5457032-b1u3m4z/index.html
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I see nothing alarming or "kamikaze" about this. The biggest hurdle to change katiba is the politics which has been intricately and meticulously handled for 2 years. The rest of the technicalities is easy-peasy. The principal opponent Dr No has all but surrendered. Compare to the past where folks needed years of Saba Saba and PEV... Uhuru and Raila have outdone themselves.
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Does broke Yattani have money for this?
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The sooner we go and tell Muigai and his "girl friend" NO...the better. Bring it ON. They say that "the danger of being overconfident is, you become oblivious of Danger". I am leaving this here! Uhuru has played Raila...that's not Kosha, that's Haram. Ruto should support the Ref and rush it.
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Lenku and Tunai to host BBI in Narok Sato 22nd
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Pundit - am struggling to see where Ruto has support. Apart from Kalenjin and a few Kiunjuri
Tobiko dismisses calls for Executive to keep off BBI rallies
(https://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/5459812/highRes/2561134/-/maxw/600/-/9dqphf/-/TOBIKO.jpg)
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Tobiko needs to use several hundred millions he gathered at ODPP for BBI now that he is smack in the middle of Mau crisis and his governor dreams seem a mirage.
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I feel like we've re-lived this strategy before on repeat like that movie where that girl re-lived her birthday over and over to the point she figured out who killed her. I feel like the problem why RAO still isn't the president is because he really ought to figure out who killed him over and over again.
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BBI train has to navigate mt kenya and rv terrain - and then we can know - what kind of resolutions - Raila wanted rushed.
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The ground has been softened. Only a few packets here and there but the Yes vote does not have to be unanimous. Actually a few No's upto about 40% is good. I think Ruto and his surrogates should manage 20%-35%. 100% YES would look too mobutuesq.
BBI train has to navigate mt kenya and rv terrain - and then we can know - what kind of resolutions - Raila wanted rushed.
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I feel like we've re-lived this strategy before on repeat like that movie where that girl re-lived her birthday over and over to the point she figured out who killed her. I feel like the problem why RAO still isn't the president is because he really ought to figure out who killed him over and over again.
LOL..
Every watched the movie 51 date??
Or Groundhog Day??
But Kenyans are good at keeping hope alive...
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Mudavadi tell Raila to stop dreaming like our little girl Robina has been about executive pm to bribe Uhuru and regional gov to bribe retiring governor https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001360973/executive-pm-is-recipe-for-chaos-says-mudavadi
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The ground has been softened. Only a few packets here and there but the Yes vote does not have to be unanimous. Actually a few No's upto about 40% is good. I think Ruto and his surrogates should manage 20%-35%. 100% YES would look too mobutuesq.
BBI train has to navigate mt kenya and rv terrain - and then we can know - what kind of resolutions - Raila wanted rushed.
if you can sell a parliamentary system in Mt Kenya then you'll will win with 70% but like 2010..Ruto will occupy that position or someone else but Raila
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The ground has been softened. Only a few packets here and there but the Yes vote does not have to be unanimous. Actually a few No's upto about 40% is good. I think Ruto and his surrogates should manage 20%-35%. 100% YES would look too mobutuesq.
BBI train has to navigate mt kenya and rv terrain - and then we can know - what kind of resolutions - Raila wanted rushed.
if you can sell a parliamentary system in Mt Kenya then you'll will win with 70% but like 2010..Ruto will occupy that position or someone else but Raila
Uhuru will be Exec PM. Ruto has to square with him in Mt Kenya and that's massive hurdle. BBI is wiping Ruto out of non-Gema. He might wind up only with Kalenjin.
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Which floor? MaDVD has said no - the next rallies - you'll not hear about BBI 2.0 - but original genuine BBI - which has non-executive PM and everything else. Raila started from Nyanza to Kitui and momentum is now GONE. Now we will hear what Meru wants - BBI 1.0 or BBI 2.0.
Uhuru will be Exec PM. Ruto has to square with him in Mt Kenya and that's massive hurdle. BBI is wiping Ruto out of non-Gema. He might wind up only with Kalenjin.
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Which momentum is gone - except Moi funeral - when is Ruto holding Nakuru counterrally? Meru want Uhuru 2.0 - Kiraitu, Njuki, Munya and the shebang met Njuri Ncheke last week to prep for mega-rally. It near unanimous except Linturi or Kindiki - they just want 35% devolution. These are GEMA welcoming Uhuru and Raila BBI rally.
Raila and Uhuru have lined up folks - the big influencers - which is the heavy lifting. Maa look near unanimous, Coast, Gusii. Luhya all governors and senators except sour wishy-washy Rectangular are in. Most of Mdvd crew - Malala, Otichillo, Osotsi, Khaniri - are BBI damu more than ODM. Even Rectangular Ford-K crew - Wangamati, Khaemba - are BBI.
Ruto has Echesa, Benji and Khalwale. His key pointmen in Western. Wish he had Mdvd who never knows what he wants. Coast it mere Jumwa and Jicho Pevu. Mvurya blow hot n cold with tweets supporting BBI but don't show up for any rallies. Gusii Ruto has only Joash Maang'i - a single deputy governor. 8)
It not looking good for Ruto at all - numbers don't lie.
Which floor? MaDVD has said no - the next rallies - you'll not hear about BBI 2.0 - but original genuine BBI - which has non-executive PM and everything else. Raila started from Nyanza to Kitui and momentum is now GONE. Now we will hear what Meru wants - BBI 1.0 or BBI 2.0.
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There you go with premature MOAS :) - Meru BBI they want is different from Narok one. Once we agree on the BBI we are discussing let me know
Which momentum is gone - except Moi funeral - when is Ruto holding Nakuru counterrally? Meru want Uhuru 2.0 - Kiraitu, Njuki, Munya and the shebang met Njuri Ncheke last week to prep for mega-rally. It near unanimous except Linturi or Kindiki - they just want 35% devolution. These are GEMA welcoming Uhuru and Raila BBI rally.
Raila and Uhuru have lined up folks - the big influencers - which is the heavy lifting. Maa look near unanimous, Coast, Gusii. Luhya all governors and senators except sour wishy-washy Rectangular are in. Most of Mdvd crew - Malala, Otichillo, Osotsi, Khaniri - are BBI damu more than ODM. Even Rectangular Ford-K crew - Wangamati, Khaemba - are BBI.
Ruto has Echesa, Benji and Khalwale. His key pointmen in Western. Wish he had Mdvd who never knows what he wants. Coast it mere Jumwa and Jicho Pevu. Mvurya blow hot n cold with tweets supporting BBI but don't show up for any rallies. Gusii Ruto has only Joash Maang'i - a single deputy governor. 8)
It not looking good for Ruto at all - numbers don't lie.
Which floor? MaDVD has said no - the next rallies - you'll not hear about BBI 2.0 - but original genuine BBI - which has non-executive PM and everything else. Raila started from Nyanza to Kitui and momentum is now GONE. Now we will hear what Meru wants - BBI 1.0 or BBI 2.0.
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Anyone supporting BBI know it parliamentary. Except wishy washy Tangatanga who need to cling to Uhuru. Anyway Narok then Meru and Nax are coming. Of course you have nothing about Maa or Pwani? Or Gusii - which BBI are they supporting?
There you go with premature MOAS :) - Meru BBI they want is different from Narok one. Once we agree on the BBI we are discussing let me know
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We will know soon. There is the Raila BBI - and there is real BBI that is collecting views - to refine the real BBI. It's confusing. I am not sure if Uhuru has endorsed Raila BBI2.0. I know Raila would love to entice or bribe him with Exec PM but nothing suggest the idea has been sold to Uhuru and he has bought it.
The real BBI is one MaDVD appeared and gave them a reality check.
Raila BBI will hold rallies till March - then have a referendum by June :) :)
Hiyo ni uganga I cannot understand.
Anyone supporting BBI know it parliamentary. Except wishy washy Tangatanga who need to cling to Uhuru. Anyway Narok then Meru and Nax are coming. Of course you have nothing about Maa or Pwani? Or Gusii - which BBI are they supporting?
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Uhuru seem sold on parliamentary aka BBI 2.0
1. He has said Gema will get "something big" (Gicheha Farm) and that he doesn't mind to be PM (Sagana). I doubt he want to become Duale
2. He has declared noone can stop reggae despite the resistance from Ruto and Mt Kenya. He has hanged a few resistors like Waititu
3. He is preaching BBI everywhere including the US. Sounds serious
Of course you never tell us what is the reason to appease old Raila and even sabotage his legacy- building years if he is not serious about BBI? What else but Exec PM is in it for him?
We will know soon. There is the Raila BBI - and there is real BBI that is collecting views - to refine the real BBI. It's confusing. I am not sure if Uhuru has endorsed Raila BBI2.0. I know Raila would love to entice or bribe him with Exec PM but nothing suggest the idea has been sold to Uhuru and he has bought it.
The real BBI is one MaDVD appeared and gave them a reality check.
Raila BBI will hold rallies till March - then have a referendum by June :) :)
Hiyo ni uganga I cannot understand.
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This turn of events with Ruto has really messed up your head bro. It is what it is. Ruto will never see the presidency.
We will know soon. There is the Raila BBI - and there is real BBI that is collecting views - to refine the real BBI. It's confusing. I am not sure if Uhuru has endorsed Raila BBI2.0. I know Raila would love to entice or bribe him with Exec PM but nothing suggest the idea has been sold to Uhuru and he has bought it.
The real BBI is one MaDVD appeared and gave them a reality check.
Raila BBI will hold rallies till March - then have a referendum by June :) :)
Hiyo ni uganga I cannot understand.
Anyone supporting BBI know it parliamentary. Except wishy washy Tangatanga who need to cling to Uhuru. Anyway Narok then Meru and Nax are coming. Of course you have nothing about Maa or Pwani? Or Gusii - which BBI are they supporting?
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Pundit and Ruto are in a conundrum. Legally BBI represents them because their president and party leader is the appointing co-principal. There are also Kalenjin in the committee. Now he claims to speak for Mt Kenya despite preaching for years that Kenya is hopelessly tribal. They support BBI with alot of ifs and buts.
This turn of events with Ruto has really messed up your head bro. It is what it is. Ruto will never see the presidency.
We will know soon. There is the Raila BBI - and there is real BBI that is collecting views - to refine the real BBI. It's confusing. I am not sure if Uhuru has endorsed Raila BBI2.0. I know Raila would love to entice or bribe him with Exec PM but nothing suggest the idea has been sold to Uhuru and he has bought it.
The real BBI is one MaDVD appeared and gave them a reality check.
Raila BBI will hold rallies till March - then have a referendum by June :) :)
Hiyo ni uganga I cannot understand.
Anyone supporting BBI know it parliamentary. Except wishy washy Tangatanga who need to cling to Uhuru. Anyway Narok then Meru and Nax are coming. Of course you have nothing about Maa or Pwani? Or Gusii - which BBI are they supporting?
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(https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/wednesday/2020_02_19_paper.png)
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Glossing through Kenya media... it Ruto obituary today again.
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Glossing through Kenya media... it Ruto obituary today again.
Glossing through Kenya media... it Ruto obituary today again.
Governor Wambora shuts down stadium ahead of Ruto's visit (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-20-governor-wambora-shuts-down-stadium-ahead-of-rutos-visit/)
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Glossing through Kenya media... it Ruto obituary today again.
Glossing through Kenya media... it Ruto obituary today again.
Governor Wambora shuts down stadium ahead of Ruto's visit (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-20-governor-wambora-shuts-down-stadium-ahead-of-rutos-visit/)
Pundit has some excel sheet with Wambora in Ruto column. This is Kibicho's doing.
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Those are usual motions..moas is not about leaders..it about the people.Raila had 3-5 Kalenjin Minister's going into 2013 and he scored 2% like he did in 2017.Wambora and Kibicho are using desperate tactics to block Ruto..it won't work.They need to win over people.Ruto should be free to attend an empty standium .then we will know he is kaput.
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I feel like we've re-lived this strategy before on repeat like that movie where that girl re-lived her birthday over and over to the point she figured out who killed her. I feel like the problem why RAO still isn't the president is because he really ought to figure out who killed him over and over again.
Raila cannot over come the jinx of tribalism. He is old and tired. His last bullet was in 2016. in 2022 he will be literally in ICU
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More Kamikaze than this move?
A police officer attached to Harambee Annex who was on duty when the Sh39 billion fake military arms deal was being signed has been found dead.
Sergeant Kenei's body was on Thursday found with a bullet wound in his head at his house in Imara Daima's Villa Franca estate.
The body has been taken to City Mortuary.
The officer, who was expected to record a statement, had not been seen for two days.
A source had told the Star that the officer, who was scheduled to appear before DCI over the case, had not done so.
Deputy President William Ruto had written to IG Hillary Mutyambai to speed up investigations into the role of former Sports CS Rashid Echesa in his involvement in the arms deal.
Echesa was charged with conspiracy to commit a felony by conspiring to make a document with intent to defraud.
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Not looking good, ICC witness scenario again.
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He still has just one more bullet - I think he'll definitely run against Ruto for the final time - this time he aint coming back.
Raila cannot over come the jinx of tribalism. He is old and tired. His last bullet was in 2016. in 2022 he will be literally in ICU
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Raila has run such circles around Ruto I wonder what you are talking about.