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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2019, 11:59:17 AM

Title: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2019, 11:59:17 AM
At the hotel, a man who ushered them in took away their phones, the clip alleges.

 “As he walked us inside, he also asked that we leave our phones. He took our phones and I remember we walked together with a colleague of mine and a PS who had a laptop and it was also taken away,” the distorted male voice explains.

According to the alleged PS, he initially thought it was a meeting of the National Development Implementation Technical Committee chaired by Kibicho.

The committee consisting of 11 PSs, the Solicitor General and the head of the Presidential Delivery Unit and supervises the implementation of government projects across the country.

However, at the meeting, the man claims it became clear that was not a normal government meeting.

“Some CS started coming, at that moment, it became clear it was not the technical committee. The technical committee does not have CSs,” he explains.

He, however, notes that Agriculture CS Mwangi Kiunjuri was conspicuously absent.

Before the meeting kicked off, he names a powerful woman who works at State House whom he says walked in.

The said lady was the secretary, taking minutes during the meeting.

“She went directly to PS Kibicho and sat next to him and they had a conversation. The meeting was chaired by PS Interior. It was him who was in charge of the meeting,” the audio clip states.

The man claims that the agenda of the meeting were three: Huduma Namba, the referendum and retaining power.

However, before delving into the first agendum, ICT CS Joe Mucheru stood up, briefly addressed the gathering saying he could not sit through the entire meeting.

“He [Mucheru] said he was going to the airport, he has a plane to catch. He wanted to fly to Rwanda where he said he had an ICT-related meeting,” the man claims.

He goes on: “He then said he was going to be bound with [sic] what we discussed and he wished us well and so he left.”

Mucheru alongside CSs Peter Munya (Industrialisation) Sicily Kariuki (Health) and James Macharia (Transport) were summoned by the DCI on Monday to record statements on the alleged murder plot against Ruto.

According to the audio, leaders at the meeting were asked to return to their rural homes and mobilise their backyards for the registration of Huduma Namba.

Leaders were told that a referendum would be conducted before 2022 despite opposition by the Ruto brigade.

“They told us the referendum was going to happen whether Deputy President Ruto wanted it or not. They told us to go to our villages where we were born and whip up emotion, ask people to support the referendum when it comes,” the man in the audio claims.

He quotes one of the speakers in the meeting who confidently suggested that the state would rig the referendum if it proved a hard tackle.

“Once the referendum was done, even if the side that the government was going to support did not win, they were going to rig it […] he said that is why we should go and help people in the villages to register for Huduma number so that when the time to rig comes, we will use it to rig, whatever it takes,” he quotes the speaker.

The said speaker went on to chest thump that power will never leave Mt Kenya.

The audio refers to another CS who allegedly told the meeting that “no African President has ever relinquished power”.

“He gave some examples including Museveni and he said we have to do everything to stop Ruto,” he quotes the CS.

To reinforce his point, a controversial PS allegedly stood up and said they would do anything to stop the DP.

“To stop Ruto includes doing the impossible, including you know what happened to Saitoti,” the audio claims.

The PS also allegedly threatened that MPs from Mt Kenya who are allies of the DP would be crushed.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Dear Mami on June 28, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
Oh please, Pundit. I love how you're acting as if you've stumbled upon an insight. Do you want me to quote what we said the moment handshake was announced? We said Uhuru wasn't planning to go home. Your denialism is quite formidable. This news is over a year stale.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2019, 01:20:27 PM
Strawman arguments my dear.Way before handshake when he left Kiunjuri from initial cabinet and started harrasing  him I alluded to that possibility
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2019, 05:15:44 PM
Lol. So where is the tape  being quoted here. Any link to the audio? As Kadame says, this is stale news. It is also not possible for Ruto to market governor loser Kiunjuri after Ruto badly flopped trying to market himself directly.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2019, 05:23:54 PM
A for senile Babu getting used, he just executed trojan horse v2, in short he used Uhuru to scuttle Ruto's gameplan. Uhuru may become PM or not - but in the meantime Jubilee the well-oiled machine is doing harakiri.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: patel on June 28, 2019, 11:42:50 PM
As anewly minted Ruto supporter I have to say if you never had any problem with a drunkard taking levers of power for 5 yrs or 10yrs...voted for the same screw ball 3 times, gyrated all over kumira kumira, tano tena to finish the kauntry with uhuru why should you care when the same drunkard make himself president for life! What's the worst can happen? Screw up the economy? Well the damage is all done....thank you kumira kumira brigade.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 01:41:04 AM
Extending Uhuru term is crossing the red line.Its reverse all gains made since 1980s.Wont happen.Cant happen.Not even with Raila backing.Its a plain declaration of civil war and Uhuru better be advised.Everything the Kenyattas have achieved will be undone. Still water run deep.He should not confuse Ruto & RV calmness for meekness for last time Kibaki pulled the country from precipice...this time the drunken sailor may not even save himself.Rigging Ruto or referendum will spark a fire that will turn Kenya into another Somalia or South Sudan.Salva Kiir last I heard was begging for World Bank loan to pay salaries...yet Risk Machar is not even in the country.Dont tempt fate.Dont use millions of lives as mere pawns.For what... Kenyattas own everything a human can wish to own .Go home or loose everything.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: vooke on June 29, 2019, 10:42:22 AM
Extending Uhuru term is crossing the red line.Its reverse all gains made since 1980s.Wont happen.Cant happen.Not even with Raila backing.Its a plain declaration of civil war and Uhuru better be advised.Everything the Kenyattas have achieved will be undone. Still water run deep.He should not confuse Ruto & RV calmness for meekness for last time Kibaki pulled the country from precipice...this time the drunken sailor may not even save himself.Rigging Ruto or referendum will spark a fire that will turn Kenya into another Somalia or South Sudan.Salva Kiir last I heard was begging for World Bank loan to pay salaries...yet Risk Machar is not even in the country.Dont tempt fate.Dont use millions of lives as mere pawns.For what... Kenyattas own everything a human can wish to own .Go home or loose everything.

This is not in doubt. The most Uhuru can do is take a break and come back in 2027. Okoyu fatigue is ten times more than Kalenjins in 2002. Best shot for Okoyu is sneaking anyone but Uhuru after referendum into one of those silly Deputy PMs or something.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 01:45:48 PM
We have to guard against the desperate Raila throwing the country to the dogs.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 03:16:18 PM
I agree Uhuru should go - but not cause Ruto and his imaginary powers :D - last time he was crying on his way to Hague. I support the parliamentary system - so bring referendum haraka upesi - another feather on Babu's crown. Your indifference over the killing of Msando and your support of the present electoral system in the past makes your rants about future rigging laughable. You are just a tribal anarchist not a patriot nor a democrat.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 03:32:47 PM
Where is evidence of my indifference towards the dead of anybody.Msando was definitely killed by gov or NIS because he was top iebc tech guy in bed with ODM.Should have known better than meet Nyongo during such sensitive time.Youre a joke who has reduced everything into Ruto this or that.Ruto could drop dead and we will be stuck with a bad deal.Ruto could also benefits from such a bad deal like the way he opposed katiba and is now DPORK who has made a fortune from it...and Raila the architect is out.Parliamentary.Mps.Out.Nobody want such.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 03:38:59 PM
Your indifference over Msando is self evident - ati he should have known better. If nobody wants parliamentary, don't worry Kenyans will reject it. Your boy can lead No or Hustler Nation campaign. Kwani iko nini.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 03:46:36 PM
Your indifference over Msando is self evident - ati he should have known better. If nobody wants parliamentary, don't worry Kenyans will reject it. Your boy can lead No or Hustler Nation campaign. Kwani iko nini.
Don't confuse my dispassionate cold hard facts based punditry  with callousness.Yes parliamentary will be hard sell even if you promise it to Uhuru.I don't think you seriously want it otherwise why go for ceremonial pork and give you archenemy the executive pm under parliamentary system.Ujanja yenu itaisha kama kawaida.Very transparent
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 03:47:07 PM
When the shoe is on the other hoof.... Pundit we are all loving this - yours and Ruto's tantrums :D More entertaining than Miguna and Afcon combo - told you it refreshes the day better than yoga. As Kichwa posited a while back, Kalenjin are free to hold demos and demand reforms - national chores are not patented to the Luo. Hii Kiongozi Mpya ya Upinzani aongoze maandamano.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 03:52:06 PM
Your indifference over Msando is self evident - ati he should have known better. If nobody wants parliamentary, don't worry Kenyans will reject it. Your boy can lead No or Hustler Nation campaign. Kwani iko nini.
Don't confuse my dispassionate cold hard facts based punditry  with callousness.Yes parliamentary will be hard sell even if you promise it to Uhuru.I don't think you seriously want it otherwise why go for ceremonial pork and give you archenemy the executive pm under parliamentary system.Ujanja yenu itaisha kama kawaida.Very transparent

I have always been pro-parliamentary and voted No 2010 for it. Despite Babu and Ruto changing colors like chameleons for expediency. Of course I don't believe Babu is being used. He just used Uhuru to scuttle Ruto and is now using him to get parliamentary. Nothing stop Babu or Ruto from gunning for PM once it exists - it won't have Kenyatta name on it. So relax - it's not do or die for your hero - Robina smiling ? all the way.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.
Millions of lifes will be at huge risk.You won't be laughing but calling ICC to come take warlord Ruto.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 04:04:21 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.
Millions of lifes will be at huge risk.You won't be laughing but calling ICC to come take warlord Ruto.

That's ok - Uhuru is not chicken either - and he is C-in-C. The two warlords can square it out - then head to Hague - and leave Kenya and King Babu in peace. Kenya is bigger than Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 29, 2019, 05:09:43 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.

He can’t do it.  The only people ready to eat teargas on his behalf are limited in a spatial sense.  Baba in his element can shut down the country merely by calling for a rally.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 05:18:46 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.
Millions of lifes will be at huge risk.You won't be laughing but calling ICC to come take warlord Ruto.

That's ok - Uhuru is not chicken either - and he is C-in-C. The two warlords can square it out - then head to Hague - and leave Kenya and King Babu in peace. Kenya is bigger than Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
That why whole idea is MAD And real beneficiary Raila.Uhuru will come to his sense eventually and endorse running mate for Ruto.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
Ohh Ruto used to mock Babu - while campaigning for Uhuru - about maandamano, makelele, firimbi - kuketi kwa lami. We need to see Ruto maandamano - and Babu mockery - as he face teargas by Matiang'i crew. Popcorn plsss.
Millions of lifes will be at huge risk.You won't be laughing but calling ICC to come take warlord Ruto.

That's ok - Uhuru is not chicken either - and he is C-in-C. The two warlords can square it out - then head to Hague - and leave Kenya and King Babu in peace. Kenya is bigger than Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
That why whole idea is MAD And real beneficiary Raila.Uhuru will come to his sense eventually and endorse running mate for Ruto.

All dreams are valid... Uhuru just need to take back GEMA - which is going well - afer that Ruto and his hard-on for PORK will be offering 60% like Raila 2012. There is no MAD - you really got hubris over Ruto power. Before handshake Ruto had Gema - Uhuru had nothing except hot air promises about 50-50. This mayhem is a nightmare for Ruto - golden shower for Raila - whether PM happen or not Gema will be firmly back in Uhuru grasp - when the dust settles.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 06:51:18 PM
Ruto knows the deal.Why risk gov operations grinding to halt for something gema are entitled to....DPORK n 50-50.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
Ruto knows the deal.Why risk gov operations grinding to halt for something gema are entitled to....DPORK n 50-50.

Uhuru must corner Gema - then get the best deal from whoever - so far so good. Trusting a vampire like Ruto to honor 50-50 - cause he is so trustworthy :D :D - would be really foolish. It laughable to hear you repeat this cheap line.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: RV Pundit on June 29, 2019, 11:15:26 PM
Uhuru had gema until he started dalliance with Raila.Now he has to fight to regain control.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 29, 2019, 11:23:46 PM
Uhuru had gema until he started dalliance with Raila.Now he has to fight to regain control.

Nope - Ruto got Gema thru mlolongo - Uhuru needed Babu support to take back Gema from the hyena. The noises now is Jubilee hyenas fighting for Gema - Ruto is bumbling about assassinations cause he is losing grip. Kenya is tribal and we know how it will end. Later on we will have smiles, handshakes as deals are cut. There is nothing trustworthy about Ruto - attempting direct Gema control - remind me of Babu saga in kalenjin 2009-12. He is going nowhere with that strategy.
Title: Re: Uhuru is planning to extend his term - Raila getting used :)
Post by: Nefertiti on June 30, 2019, 12:52:49 AM
He can’t do it.  The only people ready to eat teargas on his behalf are limited in a spatial sense.  Baba in his element can shut down the country merely by calling for a rally.

Of course he can't - only Babu has that power to paralyze GoK without genocide. Ruto's only leverage is PEV 2 - which Handshake rendered moot. Any whiff of PEV and Babu smiles all the way. Hence the tantrums and fumbling now - which are backfiring so badly as Gema give him a big fat middle finger. Ruto is like an entitled brat who cuts himself to demand attention by daddy.