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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on August 22, 2018, 12:26:32 PM

Title: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: vooke on August 22, 2018, 12:26:32 PM
Or so it seems.

He has directly implicated Trump by claiming he made payments ‘in coordination with and at the direction of a federal candidate’
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: RV Pundit on August 22, 2018, 01:07:50 PM
It's not easy to impeach a president. Trump could kill someone and get away with it. The majority republican congress have to pander to trump constituency of white trash. It more likely trump will win in 2020. Impeachment won't be happening.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 22, 2018, 03:11:23 PM
Or so it seems.

He has directly implicated Trump by claiming he made payments ‘in coordination with and at the direction of a federal candidate’

Not with the current congress.  They are just as rotten as Trump.  The next one probably will impeach, but Senate won't convict.  Trump won't resign because prison awaits.  But maybe he can get a plea deal to avoid or reduce prison if he quits.  What Trump increasingly cannot avoid is staring at prison after office.

Basically there are a lot of firsts that the founders simply never envisioned.  They envisioned a corrupt President, but never thought he would have a corrupt Congress at his beck and call.  Trump thinks and acts more like a third world autocrat than any US President in living memory.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Georgesoros on August 22, 2018, 03:19:30 PM
Nothing new here.  Only people who will pay are Republicans. If the economy tanks they will pay triple. Forget Impeachment!!!
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 22, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
Nothing new here.  Only people who will pay are Republicans. If the economy tanks they will pay triple. Forget Impeachment!!!

The GOP is already reducing to Trumpists.  That partly explains his historically high approval among them.  I see the Democratic party absorbing non-NAZI conservatives fleeing from the GOP.  The Bernie-Sanders Elizabeth Warren leftists will be forced out and become something like Social-Democratic party.  Congress will end up with a three party configuration.  The NAZI Republican fringe, right of center Democrats and Social-Democrats.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 22, 2018, 05:19:33 PM
vooke here is Trumpism in a nutshell.  Zamunda style corruption.  And almost everyone around Trump is this type of character.


Trump was a fool to run for public office.  His corruption would have been under wraps in the safe hands of his crooked New York connections.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: vooke on August 23, 2018, 12:07:55 PM
vooke here is Trumpism in a nutshell.  Zamunda style corruption.  And almost everyone around Trump is this type of character.


Trump was a fool to run for public office.  His corruption would have been under wraps in the safe hands of his crooked New York connections.

This the guy who paid $600 air ticket for a pet rabbit?

I think Trump will go down
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 23, 2018, 03:23:19 PM
vooke here is Trumpism in a nutshell.  Zamunda style corruption.  And almost everyone around Trump is this type of character.


Trump was a fool to run for public office.  His corruption would have been under wraps in the safe hands of his crooked New York connections.

This the guy who paid $600 air ticket for a pet rabbit?

I think Trump will go down

Using campaign contributions.  Yep.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 24, 2018, 03:35:18 AM
Pundit saw trump as a strongman. Americans can make a mistake once but by second time they will make sure no man will ever attempt. There conservatives like Mueller and comey who to them constitutionalism and institutions are worthy protecting with their life.

Doj will let trump be indicted or just let Mueller go to Congress with his report.

Trump is a fool. He had a chance to dump his deplorable rule from the center and signal he will leave or play within norms..
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: GeeMail on August 24, 2018, 08:39:56 AM
There is a feeling like in the days of Clinton that impeaching a sitting president will set a bad precedent but in this case, most of those who matter just can't stand the man. I notice he is trying to appease evangelical Christians hoping they will save his neck. Look at Funny Rudi inciting rednecks.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/giuliani-donald-trump-michael-cohen/index.html
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: GeeMail on August 24, 2018, 09:46:47 AM
Robina doesn't it sound like the usual RV threats (economy will tank, rednecks will revolt blah blah). You owe us. Vote corruption otherwise...
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: RV Pundit on August 24, 2018, 10:27:18 AM
No I see Trump as smart operative thanking advantage of white american fears of them finally losing the white privilege post-oboma election.The same thing is happening in Europe and the rest of white world.They know the Asian and even blacks are finally rising and they are fearful of a future they won't be any special than the rest of the races.
Pundit saw trump as a strongman. Americans can make a mistake once but by second time they will make sure no man will ever attempt. There conservatives like Mueller and comey who to them constitutionalism and institutions are worthy protecting with their life.

Doj will let trump be indicted or just let Mueller go to Congress with his report.

Trump is a fool. He had a chance to dump his deplorable rule from the center and signal he will leave or play within norms..
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 24, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
Trump core support is 25 percent of voters. He needed to create enough doubt about Dems that millennials would not bother to vote. What he has done gone the opposite way. He is so unfocused that he is losing control of the executive branch. His own secretary is the one ruling. General jelly will fuck trump on his way out. Americans especially whites are now determined to mill white Nazis. Next time these guys show up may leave in gunny bags. White America is so ashamed for having supported trump that they want him gone quickly.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: gout on August 24, 2018, 01:42:51 PM
I hope Kidero being arrested by EACC jokers is not a premonition of seeing Hilary in the dock as everybody waits Trump to go down jut like many are waiting to see Sonko down.

As a conspiracy weaver I hold Kidero paid EACC jokers to get him and distract Noordin NIS lasers which were certainly getting him. For Hilary, Trump would give a hand job to whoever nails her and am sure the dogs of war are on it.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: GeeMail on August 24, 2018, 03:29:05 PM
What a conspiracy? Like Kiza Besigye's "preventive arrest?"
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 24, 2018, 04:13:41 PM
vooke here is Trumpism in a nutshell.  Zamunda style corruption.  And almost everyone around Trump is this type of character.


Trump was a fool to run for public office.  His corruption would have been under wraps in the safe hands of his crooked New York connections.

This the guy who paid $600 air ticket for a pet rabbit?

I think Trump will go down

He did not hesitate to throw his wife under the bus.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/duncan-hunter-wife-margaret-campaign-finances/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/duncan-hunter-wife-margaret-campaign-finances/index.html)
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 24, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
Trump core support is 25 percent of voters. He needed to create enough doubt about Dems that millennials would not bother to vote. What he has done gone the opposite way. He is so unfocused that he is losing control of the executive branch. His own secretary is the one ruling. General jelly will fuck trump on his way out. Americans especially whites are now determined to mill white Nazis. Next time these guys show up may leave in gunny bags. White America is so ashamed for having supported trump that they want him gone quickly.

Yep.  He has a small immovable core.  One often forgets that he won the key states by 70,000 votes, which can easily be accounted for by Hillary's historical unpopularity.

Bob Mueller obviously seems like a bad foe to have.  He does not engage in politics or the media.  He doesn't care.  He is not a fanfare dude.  He seems laser focused on Trump and his organization's weapons grade criminality and stupidity. 

The Cohen case he handed over to SDNY has now roped in Trump Organization's CFO https://www.wsj.com/articles/allen-weisselberg-longtime-trump-organization-cfo-is-granted-immunity-by-federal-prosecutors-in-michael-cohen-investigation-1535121992.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: vooke on August 24, 2018, 07:09:43 PM
Termie,
Looks like everything and everyone Trump touches is dirty
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 24, 2018, 07:16:59 PM
Termie,
Looks like everything and everyone Trump touches is dirty

I have heard he is a difficult guy to work with.  Not to mention less than reputable.  So, the only folks willing to work with him have themselves bad reputations or are in it for what they can get out of it now.  Nobody is a saint.  But Trump is round the bend.  His levels of corruption might be more common in places like Chicago, New York but it's too much for DC.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 24, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
Just came from a lunch meeting with a client. I had noprior engagements with this person so I was surprised As we talked out of nowhere came he introduced trump and told me in short everyone he knows in his community is determined this to be the last time this issue is ever heard off. He told me everyone he knows who never bothered to vote in local elections is waiting for midterm elections.

Polls show women have out registered men by 16 percent. This means conservatives will be in a very precarious situation going forward.

It is over for gop and they will need decades of rebranding to make a comeback
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: gout on August 25, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
The Department of Justice could destroy itself in its furious attempt to nail Trump just like ICC has ruined itself by the useless blind hunt in Kenya. Now Bemba is back in Kinshasha!! Can anybody in politics, government or business for even 10 days be without something that can stick unless you are doing nothing like Obama.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 25, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
The Department of Justice could destroy itself in its furious attempt to nail Trump just like ICC has ruined itself by the useless blind hunt in Kenya. Now Bemba is back in Kinshasha!! Can anybody in politics, government or business for even 10 days be without something that can stick unless you are doing nothing like Obama.

Yeah.  All the time.  Bob Mueller's is not the first special counsel investigation.  It could claim to be the most efficient though - though more likely it says more about the criminality of the subject than the investigation.  Numerous guilty pleas and convictions barely a year in, and almost certainly more to come.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: vooke on August 26, 2018, 01:11:06 AM
Termie,
Looks like everything and everyone Trump touches is dirty

I have heard he is a difficult guy to work with.  Not to mention less than reputable.  So, the only folks willing to work with him have themselves bad reputations or are in it for what they can get out of it now.  Nobody is a saint.  But Trump is round the bend.  His levels of corruption might be more common in places like Chicago, New York but it's too much for DC.

And the fact that he has not mentioned nothing on McCain even when he is on his final lap means he is the ultimate scumbag. An American told me that the quickest way to lose favor with Americans is to disparage military ,present and vets, who are regarded as the highest expression of patriotism. He must be a worthy opponent to have for democrats
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: GeeMail on August 26, 2018, 03:24:21 PM
It's becoming increasingly doubtful that Trump will be impeached. The motion may come but it is not likely to succeed. Too many interests working against it. People will just wait until his term is over. I doubt he will even seek re-election.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Georgesoros on August 26, 2018, 03:34:30 PM
The Department of Justice could destroy itself in its furious attempt to nail Trump just like ICC has ruined itself by the useless blind hunt in Kenya. Now Bemba is back in Kinshasha!! Can anybody in politics, government or business for even 10 days be without something that can stick unless you are doing nothing like Obama.

Trump destroyed justice dept.  Congress kept quiet wheile he was doing so and that is the reason it has taken so long to do anything investigation wise.
Title: Re: Cohen down, Trumpistan Impeachment looming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 27, 2018, 03:25:56 PM
The Department of Justice could destroy itself in its furious attempt to nail Trump just like ICC has ruined itself by the useless blind hunt in Kenya. Now Bemba is back in Kinshasha!! Can anybody in politics, government or business for even 10 days be without something that can stick unless you are doing nothing like Obama.

Trump destroyed justice dept.  Congress kept quiet wheile he was doing so and that is the reason it has taken so long to do anything investigation wise.

He is not there quite yet.  But Indications are he is getting the green light from the GOP to do that after midterms, with the exception of a few expressions of concern.  Why after mid-terms?  Because it might prove too much even for some Republicans who might derail his SCOTUS appointee in protest.

If he kills Justice Department, he still has to deal with SDNY especially, but other state level justice departments which don't answer to him.