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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 15, 2017, 04:35:57 PM
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About the hacking. At least more right than the naysayers. Some us only gradually accepted this theory with the benefit of hindsight. I'll use an an animal analogy.
They said there was a wolf in the goat pen. They fumbled initially with the evidence. They showed us its furs. But goats have furs too, and that was easy to dismiss offhand.
While it eventually emerges that there was a spotted hyena instead of a wolf in the goat pen, their instincts were right.
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What I find stunning is that there were no communications between KIEMS and whatever was showing us that movie on 8th/9th and this was deliberately concealed from us until the court ordered probe made it available eventually. Instead, it came from some 272 terminals. And all this after ICT chair had been murdered a week before. The reason that we and the bazungu dismissed these NASA claims and began trying to protect Raila's legacy by saying concede (at least I did) is that it's so bizarre it sounds like a movie :o Your good instincts tell you it can't be true because most of the time things like this don't happen in real life.
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And you're now the oracle who just had euraka moment. Show us the hacking. Plain simple explanation would do.
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What I find stunning is that there were no communications between KIEMS and whatever was showing us that movie on 8th/9th and this was deliberately concealed from us until the court ordered probe made it available eventually. Instead, it came from some 272 terminals. And all this after ICT chair had been murdered a week before. The reason that we and the bazungu dismissed these NASA claims and began trying to protect Raila's legacy by saying concede (at least I did) is that it's so bizarre it sounds like a movie :o Your good instincts tell you it can't be true because most of the time things like this don't happen in real life.
Yes. IEBC are aware of all the claims that have been made about KIEMS. They have to be aware. And yet, nothing put out there to rebut them.
To be fair, Bazungu don't respect the African enough to believe he can demand more of himself than their own estimation of him. The jubilant was counting on that. They saw no(or limited violence) and that was beyond their wildest expectations.
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And you're now the oracle who just had euraka moment. Show us the hacking. Plain simple explanation would do.
No I am not. I wish I was.
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Of course you're running on empty - you'll find enough NASA crowd to cheer you out here - but when you find evidence that can sustain an argument - we will be here to interrogate the hacking.
No I am not. I wish I was.
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Of course you're running on empty - you'll find enough NASA crowd to cheer you out here - but when you find evidence that can sustain an argument - we will be here to interrogate the hacking.
No I am not. I wish I was.
There was enough of it to convince a conservative SCOK to nullify the election. Feel free to keep waiting for it though.
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Of course you're running on empty - you'll find enough NASA crowd to cheer you out here - but when you find evidence that can sustain an argument - we will be here to interrogate the hacking.
No I am not. I wish I was.
:lolz:
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Part of why IEBC lost is that they could not produce logs they were using to declare the winner to the court . THey told the court "Trust us".
The sad thing is that whoever did this will not be charged, but will run for governo's office and win....
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Part of why IEBC lost is that they could not produce logs they were using to declare the winner to the court . THey told the court "Trust us".
The sad thing is that whoever did this will not be charged, but will run for governo's office and win....
You need the full judgement to conclude thus. Sorry for interrupting your fantasies.
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I think by 17th - you'd have lost quite some marbles - and it would be hard distinguish you from Omollo. I don't recall SCOK saying anything about hacking.
There was enough of it to convince a conservative SCOK to nullify the election. Feel free to keep waiting for it though.
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Part of why IEBC lost is that they could not produce logs they were using to declare the winner to the court . THey told the court "Trust us".
The sad thing is that whoever did this will not be charged, but will run for governo's office and win....
And up to a point, there was sense in trusting them, regardless of one's instincts. There is not one single thing I can point to that turned it against them, though if I had to pick I would go with the stalling. There were many small things, which by themselves, could be dismissed as minor issues(to borrow Chirober's characterization), but as part of a compendium, they left a stink that only a jubilant could miss. The stalling after the solitary court order must have left the judges with the choice of ruining their reputation or nullifying the damn thing.
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I think by 17th - you'd have lost quite some marbles - and it would be hard distinguish you from Omollo. I don't recall SCOK saying anything about hacking.
There was enough of it to convince a conservative SCOK to nullify the election. Feel free to keep waiting for it though.
Was hacking part of the petition?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2rMMQJiqMB8UV9wLXlmN0p5aEU
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I think by 17th - you'd have lost quite some marbles - and it would be hard distinguish you from Omollo. I don't recall SCOK saying anything about hacking.
There was enough of it to convince a conservative SCOK to nullify the election. Feel free to keep waiting for it though.
Omollo's instinct was right though. So I have no problem if I am indistinguishable, even though we arrived at it differently. There was a stink, and he called it.
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Let wait for majority rulling..maybe there was some hacking :) that we missed.
Was hacking part of the petition?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2rMMQJiqMB8UV9wLXlmN0p5aEU
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Sound gibberish to me. Instinct. And you now have some proof? Or it the silly political season again.
Omollo's instinct was right though. So I have no problem if I am indistinguishable, even though we arrived at it differently. There was a stink, and he called it.
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Sound gibberish to me. Instinct. And you now have some proof? Or it the silly political season again.
Omollo's instinct was right though. So I have no problem if I am indistinguishable, even though we arrived at it differently. There was a stink, and he called it.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
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I thought you should know. Bring forth evidence or shut up.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
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I thought you should know. Bring forth evidence or shut up.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
Wait for Maraga. He will give you the details and when they slap you in the face, you still wont get it.
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I thought you should know. Bring forth evidence or shut up.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
Wait for Maraga. He will give you the details and when they slap you in the face, you still wont get it.
And in the meantime follow your instincts aka hunch. Ok
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Exactly. Jubilee will see truth, only if it favors them. I remember someone posted the list of what the court wanted to see but all were marked with an unavailable. The rest is history..
The written judgement is going to look so bad against IEBC that nobody will ever trust them again.
Part of why IEBC lost is that they could not produce logs they were using to declare the winner to the court . THey told the court "Trust us".
The sad thing is that whoever did this will not be charged, but will run for governo's office and win....
And up to a point, there was sense in trusting them, regardless of one's instincts. There is not one single thing I can point to that turned it against them, though if I had to pick I would go with the stalling. There were many small things, which by themselves, could be dismissed as minor issues(to borrow Chirober's characterization), but as part of a compendium, they left a stink that only a jubilant could miss. The stalling after the solitary court order must have left the judges with the choice of ruining their reputation or nullifying the damn thing.
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I'd love you to slap us in the face with the evidence you just got that couldn't wait for Maraga rulling.
Wait for Maraga. He will give you the details and when they slap you in the face, you still wont get it.
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I thought you should know. Bring forth evidence or shut up.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
Wait for Maraga. He will give you the details and when they slap you in the face, you still wont get it.
Credit should be given to all judges not just Maraga. It takes a long time to writer a judgement and these guys were only given 14days.
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I thought you should know. Bring forth evidence or shut up.
Who doesn't know it's gibberish to you?
Wait for Maraga. He will give you the details and when they slap you in the face, you still wont get it.
Credit should be given to all judges not just Maraga. It takes a long time to writer a judgment and these guys were only given 14days.
That was my complaint before: that Maraga was getting all the love worldwide for the work done by 4 judges. But now, seeing he is also the singular target of hate and bullying, I don't mind it so much. If he is going to pay the price for it alone, let him eat all the fruits as well. Though the singular love might, in fact, be the cause of the targeted hate.