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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 14, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
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The 500-bed state-of-the-art facility, which is expected to be operational by 2020 according to the Vice Chancellor Henry Kiplagat, will be located in Kabarak, Nakuru County.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001243417/work-begins-on-sh45-billion-kabarak-university-hospital
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impressive stuff.. How much do Kabarak school generate? Are they run as non profits? Is it true that Sunshine school in Nairobi is Moi's or he started it?
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No idea.Sunshine, Sacho & Kabarak are moi private business. I think Philip Moi rans Sunshine and they generate as much as 200-500m per annum. Moi is insanely rich after looting kenya for more than 40 yrs starting from Kenyatta era.
People are complaining about 320B SGR while Moi a private individual has put down 45B...kenya is rich enough to afford more SGRs.
impressive stuff.. How much do Kabarak school generate? Are they run as non profits? Is it true that Sunshine school in Nairobi is Moi's or he started it?
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Why is this loot, while uhuruto looting is deemed hardwork?
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By who?
Why is this loot, while uhuruto looting is deemed hardwork?
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The project will be financed by US-based Private Equity Sygec International among other stakeholders
The 500-bed state-of-the-art facility, which is expected to be operational by 2020 according to the Vice Chancellor Henry Kiplagat, will be located in Kabarak, Nakuru County.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001243417/work-begins-on-sh45-billion-kabarak-university-hospital
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No idea.Sunshine, Sacho & Kabarak are moi private business. I think Philip Moi rans Sunshine and they generate as much as 200-500m per annum. Moi is insanely rich after looting kenya for more than 40 yrs starting from Kenyatta era.
People are complaining about 320B SGR while Moi a private individual has put down 45B...kenya is rich enough to afford more SGRs.
Moi has put down $440 million for a hospital? Even assuming that he has that kind of money, why would he put it into a hospital? Reminds of the usual case of the politician going to the village, pointing to a project financed by the government or aid donors and planned for well before his time, and telling the gullible manambas, "see how I have brought you development"? .... the unthinking manambas then extrapolate that to "he paid for it! out of his own pocket! what a man!"
And obviously we now have proof that, although the present SGR is going to be paid for by taxes collected from the small people, we are rich enough to afford several SGRs ... but do spare some for food, so that donors can get a break from the regular bowl-in-hand.
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Good investment.
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What happened to Eldoret referral hospital that Jubilee promised/pumped billions of shillings. This is a private investment and it shows what 45 billions can do. Remember the 38 billions uhuru spent on medical machines?
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Lots of FDI is now flowing into this country - once we fix roads, railways, water, electricity/power and security - we would be set on fast growth trajectory.
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Public money is "mali ya uma"
and anyone can use it the way they see fit, including just taking the money as your own - the Anne Waiguru doctrine.
So no services or if services are delivered they are of poor quality, eg primary school education.
What happened to Eldoret referral hospital that Jubilee promised/pumped billions of shillings. This is a private investment and it shows what 45 billions can do. Remember the 38 billions uhuru spent on medical machines?
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Public money is "mali ya uma"
and anyone can use it the way they see fit, including just taking the money as your own - the Anne Waiguru doctrine.
So no services or if services are delivered they are of poor quality, eg primary school education.
precisely Uhuruto doctrine...Jubilee thieving duos feel nothing, they are in it for themselves
What happened to Eldoret referral hospital that Jubilee promised/pumped billions of shillings. This is a private investment and it shows what 45 billions can do. Remember the 38 billions uhuru spent on medical machines?
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Which is which Baghdad bob..... Moi stolen loot or FDI??? am confused
Lots of FDI is now flowing into this country - once we fix roads, railways, water, electricity/power and security - we would be set on fast growth trajectory.
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Looks he doesn't want to die lonely in Israel or South Africa like his grandson. Very shameful that we have collapsed the health system that by the time even grandsons of someone who has been president for over 30 years reach functional hospitals in South Africa they are kaput. What is power for??
The boy who succumbed to brain cancer at a South African hospital
http://www.nation.co.ke/counties/Mois-grandson-laid-to-rest-in-Rongai/1107872-2790752-r34097/index.html
I thought Isaac Rutto would also build a health legacy after death of his daughter where he admitted knowing of her daughter's cancer two weeks before her death.
Ruto regretted that as a father he only knew of his daughter’s ailment, two weeks to her death. “I cannot tell exactly if I was a careless father or not, I keep on asking myself, if I knew about this earlier, I could have done something but Emmy was always a positive and happy girl. It was difficult to sense she was unwell,” he said.
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000140058/isaac-ruto-turn-of-events-was-terribly-devastating-if-only-i-knew
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000140058/isaac-ruto-turn-of-events-was-terribly-devastating-if-only-i-knew
It is a great milestone for African elites to start investing in health in their home countries.
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No idea.Sunshine, Sacho & Kabarak are moi private business. I think Philip Moi rans Sunshine and they generate as much as 200-500m per annum. Moi is insanely rich after looting kenya for more than 40 yrs starting from Kenyatta era.
People are complaining about 320B SGR while Moi a private individual has put down 45B...kenya is rich enough to afford more SGRs.
Moi has put down $440 million for a hospital? Even assuming that he has that kind of money, why would he put it into a hospital? Reminds of the usual case of the politician going to the village, pointing to a project financed by the government or aid donors and planned for well before his time, and telling the gullible manambas, "see how I have brought you development"? .... the unthinking manambas then extrapolate that to "he paid for it! out of his own pocket! what a man!"
And obviously we now have proof that, although the present SGR is going to be paid for by taxes collected from the small people, we are rich enough to afford several SGRs ... but do spare some for food, so that donors can get a break from the regular bowl-in-hand.
It's funded by Sygec International among other stakeholders. The short answer is No. Moi has NOT put down that money for a hospital.
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Why is Pundit claiming that Moi has put up 45B of his own money while the link is stating otherwise.
It's funded by Sygec International among other stakeholders. The short answer is No. Moi has NOT put down that money for a hospital.
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Sygec International seems like smaller company than Moi empire. Unless Moi funded Sygec International to plan and implement the project.
It's website lists no project it has done in past.
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Sygec International seems like smaller company than Moi empire. Unless Moi funded Sygec International to plan and implement the project.
There is no evidence he is funding it.
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Why is Pundit claiming that Moi has put up 45B of his own money while the link is stating otherwise.
Because that would prove that Kenya is a rich country that can afford many SGRs. :D
But even if Moi were indeed funding it, the logic there escapes me. First, Moi was president for 24 years and during that time stole a great deal; are there many Kenyans who have been that position? Second, it's not as though the Kenyan government is run money that has been stolen and stashed away.
The claim and some of the comments also highlight another curious aspect of Kenya: If Moi had given that much---and we can assume that he would be giving away only part of what he had---then it would show that he had stolen a great deal. The first thing people ought to be calling for is an investigation into where he got the money and also demanding that he had it back and be prosecuted for theft. Here, what we get is the excitement that one man can put down so much money!
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It's funded by Sygec International among other stakeholders. The short answer is No. Moi has NOT put down that money for a hospital.
I knew that; I was just amusing myself. As it is, it appears that Moi didn't even bother to turn for the "ground-breaking" for his Sh. 45 billion hospital, which, curiously, is not even named after him ... odd for a guy who liked to have his name on just about everything, including the village path. :D
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Public money is "mali ya uma"
and anyone can use it the way they see fit, including just taking the money as your own - the Anne Waiguru doctrine.
So no services or if services are delivered they are of poor quality, eg primary school education.
To be "fair" to the thieves, it's not as though Kenyans have any real problems with all of that. Give back a little of the loot, and you will be considered a great person who is helping the people. Buy illicit brews for the men and sugar+tea for the women, and you have the votes to put you well on the way to high political office. If anyone objects, it must be a plan to finish our people, and our people will come to your defense.
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[/quote]Here, what we get is the excitement that one man can put down so much money[/quote]
Its amazing. I remember when RV Pundit used to go on and on excitedly about how Rich and young WSR was.
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Public money is "mali ya uma"
and anyone can use it the way they see fit, including just taking the money as your own - the Anne Waiguru doctrine.
So no services or if services are delivered they are of poor quality, eg primary school education.
To be "fair" to the thieves, it's not as though Kenyans have any real problems with all of that. Give back a little of the loot, and you will be considered a great person who is helping the people. Buy illicit brews for the men and sugar+tea for the women, and you have the votes to put you well on the way to high political office. If anyone objects, it must be a plan to finish our people, and our people will come to your defense.
I think there is still a general sense among Kenyans that when it comes to government taxes, that's not their money. The way you'd feel if someone pinches your wallet, they don't feel that way at all.
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I think we never internalized the concept of government. We never made the transition from the "colonial government" to "our government". When educated people are singing the praises of those who steal from government then you know we have a long way to go.
Public money is "mali ya uma"
and anyone can use it the way they see fit, including just taking the money as your own - the Anne Waiguru doctrine.
So no services or if services are delivered they are of poor quality, eg primary school education.
To be "fair" to the thieves, it's not as though Kenyans have any real problems with all of that. Give back a little of the loot, and you will be considered a great person who is helping the people. Buy illicit brews for the men and sugar+tea for the women, and you have the votes to put you well on the way to high political office. If anyone objects, it must be a plan to finish our people, and our people will come to your defense.
I think there is still a general sense among Kenyans that when it comes to government taxes, that's not their money. The way you'd feel if someone pinches your wallet, they don't feel that way at all.
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I think there is still a general sense among Kenyans that when it comes to government taxes, that's not their money. The way you'd feel if someone pinches your wallet, they don't feel that way at all.
I think we never internalized the concept of government. We never made the transition from the "colonial government" to "our government". When educated people are singing the praises of those who steal from government then you know we have a long way to go.
All true. Moving beyond that, I'd like to make a distinction between having one's wallet pinched and one paying for nyama-choma that is then not delivered.
The failure to object strongly to the theft is just one half of it. Even if one accepts that we are a nation of thieves, is there any reason for people to not demand that they get proper services for the taxes they pay? What do they imagine the taxes are for? Kenyans seem to meekly accept that whatever services they get from their government ... that's they get. Very odd.
Haven't moved from mzungu's colony to Kenya yetu? Interesting. That's half-a-century plus. So, here we are---in the 21st. Toddlers are armed with tablets and laptops and whatever, people are jumping up and down with excitement over their new railway lines and trains ..... but begging for food. Why? Because there is nothing to be done about the rains. Even the government can't make it rain. So when we don't have rain, and this is not a new one, what else can we do but beg for food from places where, apparently, it rains every day?
Never mind. Let's go back to what really matters to the people: who will get a chance to rob them for another five. Bring your MOAS. I have my MOAS ready, and I also have this other tribe whose mere existence will astound you. Plus there's this defection and that poll and ....
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I am glad that someone is willing to put down 45B in kenya. Thats lot of FDI. You get 10 such projects every year and you're well on your way out of poverty and misery.