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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Simanova on July 20, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
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Apparently Ababu is using some of his 300M payout from Ruto to organize a heckling cum stone throwing competition. He's being assisted by the NSI and the moribund "Provincial Administration" that have both become part and parcel of Jubilee.
Measures have been taken to neutralize it. However Ababu has been informed that if he intends to travel around the country dishing out some of the 300M to youth, it would be in his own interest not to dare stage such a show. If he does, retaliatory measures will be taken then and later.
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Just some background for those who are buying the Ababu nonsense. Here is evidence of how Ababu and Raila performed in Budalangi:
Ababu 11892 votes while Raila got 18766 in Budalangi. in other words almost twice as many votes as Ababu. Raila was therefore the factor propelling Ababu to victory. Pay attention to what his nearest rivals got to appreciate. In other words there were people who would not vote for Ababu but voted for Raila
As for Ababu collecting 300M from Jubilee telling them he will deliver Luhya votes, see how many votes Uhuru got in Budalangi (630
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Raila's delegation arrives in Bumala Stadium
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Governor Joho in Chopper heading to Busia. The buildup
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This is @AbabuNamwamba mother hiding from Camera at Bunyala stadium waiting for BABA
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Raila meets ODM Busia delegates
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Before that, Raila met Butere elders at Oparanya's home.
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Meanwhile
Baraka Karama and Enock Amukhale @PeopleDailyKe
Cord leader Raila Odinga concluded his second day tour of the Western region to galvanise his political support with reports emerging from political leaders that some unnamed Jubilee leaders offered them money to defect from the ODM party.
Two MPs from Vihiga county said they declined some undisclosed amount of money from senior officials within Jubilee, whom they did not name, to announce their defection. Legislators Chris Omulele (Luanda) and Wilbur Otichillo (Emuhaya) revealed that soon after their rejection, rumours were spread that they were also on their way out to join Budalang’i MP Ababu Namwamba and his Funyula counterpart Paul Otuoma.
In an emotional address at Ekwanda grounds in his Luanda constituency, Omulele said he would not accept any offers that would be directed to him to abandon the Orange Party. “They have tried so many times but I want to announce here that anyone spreading the rumours that I have been bought is lying to you.
I can’t and will never accept goodies,” he said. Otichillo said he was firmly in the ODM party contrary to earlier reports that he was set to join Ababu and Otuoma. Last weekend, Deputy President William Ruto said ODM politicians from the Western region were crossing over to Jubilee ahead of the 2017 General Election.
Raila said the government had allocated millions of shillings to buy Opposition leaders across the country. “They have set aside money for each tribe to buy politicians who will come to you and say they are fighting for unity of your community and yet they are doing it for their own good,” he said.
He cautioned the Luhya community against falling into the trap of Jubilee who he said had failed in delivering their pledges to Kenyans. During his second day tour of the region following a rebellion that has rocked his party for the past two weeks, Raila denied reports that he was visiting the region because of the defection of his former party secretary general.
“I am not here because of anybody but I am here because you voted for me and you are my people. The media should say the truth and avoid spreading lies,” he said. Raila sent an olive branch to disgruntled members of the ODM party to rejoin him and fight the Jubilee in the next elections.
Raila’s sentiments were echoed by Busia governor Sospeter Ojamong’ who said: “Those leaders who want to decamp from ODM have been given money to destabilise our party. We have given them an ultimatum of few days to quit or we flash them out.”
http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co.ke/news/236979/cord-leaders-decline-offer-to-join-jubilee/
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The Build-up... Omar Hassan
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Stopovers ...
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Raila mingling with Busia supporters.
The entôurage is slowly turning to CORD
rather than ODM based on the attendance...
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The Venue is waiting at Port Victoria
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There are just too many stops... After meeting the delegates
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Enroute Budalang'i
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Team arrives in Port Victoria for delegates meeting
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Nation tweets that:
NTV Kenya ?@ntvkenya now9 seconds ago
Police disperse supporters allied to Ababu Namwamba after a clash with ODM youths in Port Victoria. #RailaInWestern
I have asked around nobody has seen anything related...mmh
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taking a long break.. so long
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The party imekwisha kweli - who are these people - it seem outside Oparanya-Joho - Raila is out there alone.
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Let's put simply that you can't recognize ODM people even if you spent a week with them.
Again this betrays your core thinking which is the root of your errors of judgment. A party that fails to renew itself bringing in new blood and ideas is destined to the Political Party cemetary where PNU and others similar lie. You should understand how and why ODM remains the largest and most democratic party in Kenya.
While at it, who are the officials of URP and TNA. When were they elected and when is the next election?
Lastly, the design of the trip is to promote the Presidential Candidate of ODM Raila Odinga. Raila is not going to Budalangi to be the local MP. It was decided to limit the influence of MPs and other leaders lest it be construed as an endorsement from Raila for the upcoming nominations. This so in areas where there are multiple ODM / CORD candidates for the same seat. This came after complaints from members.
So yes, he is "alone" and we hope it remains that way.
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Is it Jubilee that LOST two by elections in succession to this party that is "finished"???? Kajiado and Malindi????
The party imekwisha kweli - who are these people - it seem outside Oparanya-Joho - Raila is out there alone.
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Joho (Deputy Party Leader) addresses delegates
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ODM was big party. This is shadow. A shell. URP/TNA were made to die - because they had served their purpose - now the party to watch is Jubilee. The only purpose of having strong URP was as insurance of Uhuru not honoring his MOU - he honored it - and party had to die.
Let's put simply that you can't recognize ODM people even if you spent a week with them.
Again this betrays your core thinking which is the root of your errors of judgment. A party that fails to renew itself bringing in new blood and ideas is destined to the Political Party cemetary where PNU and others similar lie. You should understand how and why ODM remains the largest and most democratic party in Kenya.
While at it, who are the officials of URP and TNA. When were they elected and when is the next election?
Lastly, the design of the trip is to promote the Presidential Candidate of ODM Raila Odinga. Raila is not going to Budalangi to be the local MP. It was decided to limit the influence of MPs and other leaders lest it be construed as an endorsement from Raila for the upcoming nominations. This so in areas where there are multiple ODM / CORD candidates for the same seat. This came after complaints from members.
So yes, he is "alone" and we hope it remains that way.
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Is it Jubilee that LOST two by elections in succession to this party that is "finished"???? Kajiado and Malindi????
The party imekwisha kweli - who are these people - it seem outside Oparanya-Joho - Raila is out there alone.
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" We are not at war with Ababu. We are at war with Jubilee. Ababu Namwamba is our son and he will soon be back." Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga
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ODM was big party. This is shadow. A shell. URP/TNA were made to die - because they had served their purpose - now the party to watch is Jubilee. The only purpose of having strong URP was as insurance of Uhuru not honoring his MOU - he honored it - and party had to die.
How about keeping it until he and his Kikuyus have honored the 2022 MoU.
About big parties The Kalenjin KANU was also once a mass party. In fact the only one.
ODM is not a party for simply grabbing power and then using the power to steal anything and everything. ODM is a party devoted to change and renewal of society to end perennial problems. Once ODM comes to power along with its allies, Kenya will not be recognizable to a corrupt man like Ruto or Uhuru - once they get out of prison.
But I appreciate that URP and TNA were never political parties just entities to satisfy the legal requirement for parties. Uhuru's political party is his Tribe as is Rutos. No wonder they have a hard time trusting people outside their tribes.
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"Ababu Namwamba's mother and Busia Governor Sospeter Ojamong receive Raila Odinga in Budalangi" #RailaInWestern
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In Budalang'i
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The party imekwisha kweli - who are these people - it seem outside Oparanya-Joho - Raila is out there alone.
They look like the same guys to me. Who is missing? Ababu?
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Team arrives in Port Victoria for delegates meeting
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I know it's an old question. I don't remember the answer. What percentage of these people are registered voters? ODM should know.
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If you can manage to provide me with their names, I could answer you accurately.
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If you can manage to provide me with their names, I could answer you accurately.
Translation: We have no idea.
These tour performances are exactly the sort of thing Raila and his friends should have been doing ages ago, in places small and big, especially later during the voter registration exercises, and with the particular mission of urging people to register. A CORD that managed to get most of its supporters registered would have no problems with "tyranny of numbers" or any fiddling during a count of votes; at the very least, it would be extremely difficult to "miscount" by millions. But Raila appears to take the simple view that with all these crowds he couldn't possibly lose.
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Pretty much the rest of kenya - except Joho and his mombasa poddles.
They look like the same guys to me. Who is missing? Ababu?
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I think what we have learnt recently is that old parties carry too much baggage. There are people who have so much historical beef with ODM; they cannot join it. It where Moi doesn't get about KANU. ODM should long have collapsed into CORD - if Raila had some brains in him - of course he doesn't have political brains- which explain his failure after failure. URP has served it purpose and is now confined to history books. Jubilee is the party of 2017. This is big umbrella party to be use to herd "GEMA" seamless into Ruto's 2022. The party to use trumph speak is gonna be so big; you're going to like it.
If UhuRuto join KANU today - I will be last guy to join it.
Time to dump ODM - it as dead as dodo - just wait for next election so you can confirm dead it has been.
How about keeping it until he and his Kikuyus have honored the 2022 MoU.
About big parties The Kalenjin KANU was also once a mass party. In fact the only one.
ODM is not a party for simply grabbing power and then using the power to steal anything and everything. ODM is a party devoted to change and renewal of society to end perennial problems. Once ODM comes to power along with its allies, Kenya will not be recognizable to a corrupt man like Ruto or Uhuru - once they get out of prison.
But I appreciate that URP and TNA were never political parties just entities to satisfy the legal requirement for parties. Uhuru's political party is his Tribe as is Rutos. No wonder they have a hard time trusting people outside their tribes.
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Parties can renew themselves. KANU had a chance to renew itself and pose real competition to NARC / PNU but thanks to inept Uhuru, It lost it.
The Labour Party (UK) lost successive elections but in 1997 won one of the largest victories ever after it renewed itself.
Pundit wants to tell me that Ruto forming another party means he becomes a different person from the one we know? Let's face it ODM has one attraction and that is Raila Odinga. We need him.
As for a CORD Party, it is also possible to merge Wiper and FORD K in to ODM. However that would be wrong. We need more parties not fewer. FORD Kenya has a clear identity that need to remain. Wiper is the former ODM-K. ALL those parties (ODM, ODM-K and FORD-K) are offsprings of FORD.
I pass my condolences to JAP or Jubilee. I will be watching as it disintegrates after the 2017 defeat. Without County Commissioners and NSI money there is no such thing as Jubilee. Hence they sell Uhuru - who by the way their paid Mzungu says he is the most popular politician in Western. Soon he will be more popular in Nyanza too. Raila is selling his party. Ruto sells government projects as part of the campaign.
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Friends?
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ODM is offspring of KANU - minus NDP. The problem I see with old parties is that it prevent new alliance. Some people have invested too much hate into it. I don't see how Kalenjin would have supported Uhuru in PNU. There are people who have a problem supporting ODM in places like western, gusii, eastern and even central. Starting a new party is way to reset the button.
Parties can renew themselves. KANU had a chance to renew itself and pose real competition to NARC / PNU but thanks to inept Uhuru, It lost it.
The Labour Party (UK) lost successive elections but in 1997 won one of the largest victories ever after it renewed itself.
Pundit wants to tell me that Ruto forming another party means he becomes a different person from the one we know? Let's face it ODM has one attraction and that is Raila Odinga. We need him.
As for a CORD Party, it is also possible to merge Wiper and FORD K in to ODM. However that would be wrong. We need more parties not fewer. FORD Kenya has a clear identity that need to remain. Wiper is the former ODM-K. ALL those parties (ODM, ODM-K and FORD-K) are offsprings of FORD.
I pass my condolences to JAP or Jubilee. I will be watching as it disintegrates after the 2017 defeat. Without County Commissioners and NSI money there is no such thing as Jubilee. Hence they sell Uhuru - who by the way their paid Mzungu says he is the most popular politician in Western. Soon he will be more popular in Nyanza too. Raila is selling his party. Ruto sells government projects as part of the campaign.
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Governor Hassan Joho ?@HassanAliJoho now1 minute ago
In ODM we stand for ideology. ODM brings all Kenyans together under the umbrella of Social Democracy.
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You can go further back in time and say ALMOST all political parties came from KANU. Yes Ruto and Raila came from KANU but Raila had emerged from NDP which had broken from FORD Kenya.
My experience is that people dislike certain individuals in those parties. I can tell you for free that there are many of us who walked out of KANU in 2002 when MaDVD turned up. We would later walk out of ODM (before you actually) when Raila brought him in to be VP. I returned after he left (as I expected). If he comes back you will see me move out. There is nothing you can do to convince me otherwise. The man lacks any principles and has no bearings. He just wants people to give him things and wants to be president so he can make more money.
No I do not think we should start new parties. Uhuru has done Kenya a great disservice by destroying the Political Parties Act just so he can easily poach MPs. That is what kills parties. He should have done the opposite and left the law intact for some time, until Kenyans are of "age" when such things would be frowned upon as it is in decent democracies.
ODM is offspring of KANU - minus NDP. The problem I see with old parties is that it prevent new alliance. Some people have invested too much hate into it. I don't see how Kalenjin would have supported Uhuru in PNU. There are people who have a problem supporting ODM in places like western, gusii, eastern and even central. Starting a new party is way to reset the button.
Parties can renew themselves. KANU had a chance to renew itself and pose real competition to NARC / PNU but thanks to inept Uhuru, It lost it.
The Labour Party (UK) lost successive elections but in 1997 won one of the largest victories ever after it renewed itself.
Pundit wants to tell me that Ruto forming another party means he becomes a different person from the one we know? Let's face it ODM has one attraction and that is Raila Odinga. We need him.
As for a CORD Party, it is also possible to merge Wiper and FORD K in to ODM. However that would be wrong. We need more parties not fewer. FORD Kenya has a clear identity that need to remain. Wiper is the former ODM-K. ALL those parties (ODM, ODM-K and FORD-K) are offsprings of FORD.
I pass my condolences to JAP or Jubilee. I will be watching as it disintegrates after the 2017 defeat. Without County Commissioners and NSI money there is no such thing as Jubilee. Hence they sell Uhuru - who by the way their paid Mzungu says he is the most popular politician in Western. Soon he will be more popular in Nyanza too. Raila is selling his party. Ruto sells government projects as part of the campaign.
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Interesting.