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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on October 06, 2015, 11:56:16 AM

Title: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Omollo on October 06, 2015, 11:56:16 AM
Those who blame Adam for allowing himself to eat of the Forbidden Fruit should come and see how this Jezebel is weaving powerful men in her web. Nyachae is the latest to drop his pants.

A Judge issued an order barring parliament from debating her impeachment. Speaker Muturi who has previously rejected similar orders is on the spot.

Gossip has it that Uhuru has moved with speed to protect the mother of his kid. Waiguru moved to a new 120 million house in Kitisuru. It can't be on her lousy CS salary.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2015, 12:02:33 PM
Even you would move with speed to protect "hile asali yako ina sukari".
What is 120M compared to the 800M paid to the unknown by NYS? This is what we know of now and the unknown could be even more.


Gossip has it that Uhuru has moved with speed to protect the mother of his kid. Waiguru moved to a new 120 million house in Kitisuru. It can't be on her lousy CS salary.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Omollo on October 06, 2015, 12:18:52 PM
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A judge has barred MPs from debating a Motion to impeach Devolution Cabinet Secretary Anne Waiguru.

The order suspending all impeachment Motions was given by Mr Justice Joseph Onguto after the Commission on the Implementation of the Constitution went to court to question the fairness of the parliamentary rules which allow MPs to impeach Cabinet Secretaries.

Standing Order 66 of the National Assembly spells out the procedure for the removal of a CS. What the High Court order means is that plans by Nandi Hills MP Alfred Keter to bring the Motion for the removal from office of Ms Waiguru are for now in limbo.

Under the rule, Mr Keter was allowed to collect signatures from fellow MP to introduce the Motion for debate.

“An order is hereby issued directed at the Speaker of the National Assembly and to the effect that all Motions brought under provisions of Standing Order 66 of the National Assembly shall be held in abeyance and stand suspended until this petition is determined,” ruled Mr Justice Onguto.

However, the impeachment motion against President Uhuru Kenyatta by the opposition is not affected by the order and Cord legislators are free to go ahead with it.

Mr Justice Onguto’s ruling was issued as Mr Keter and Makueni MP Daniel Maanzo prepared to submit the Motion to impeach Ms Waiguru to the Speaker of the National Assembly for approval.

Mr Keter had vowed not to withdraw the Motion despite pressure from his Jubilee Coalition, which has distanced itself from it and claimed that the MP was acting at the behest of the Opposition.

CIC has filed an urgent case to save Cabinet Secretaries from impeachment arguing that Section 66 of the Standing Orders was unconstitutional and should be declared null and void.

Standing Order 66 provides the procedure for removal of a Cabinet Secretary, and spells out the process which starts by a presentation of a Motion by a member of the National Assembly and supported by at least 88 MPs — a quarter of the members.

Yesterday, Mr Maanzo said at least five MPs from the United Republican Party had withdrawn their signatures and were no longer willing to support the Motion. Mr Maanzo said the MPs “deleted” their signatures by scribbling over them until it was no longer possible to tell who had signed.

“Ukicheza anakwambia atararua list yote (They threatened to tear the whole list),” said Mr Maanzo, who declined to name his colleagues on the basis of mutual respect and the fact that they had already sought to distance themselves from the bid.

Mr Maanzo said Ms Waiguru should step aside voluntarily like other Cabinet Secretaries alleged to have been involved in corruption.

“Although people have been intimidated and others forced to withdraw their signatures, she should just step aside. Other than violating the Constitution, she has also not distributed the resources under her equitably as required by the Constitution,” he said.

Mr Maanzo said that among the grounds cited in the Motion was that NYS programmes had not been fairly distributed in various parts of the country.

Others are gross violation of the Constitution in the management of the National Youth Service leading to loss of public funds, financial irregularities, concealing information to perpetuate financial impropriety and improper procurement and non-existent supplies which amount to fraud.

Ms Waiguru has also been accused of “misuse of her office and violation of the law by abusing, intimidating and threatening public servants under her jurisdiction”.

Her treatment of NYS Director-General Nelson Githinji and her appointment of Mr Adan Harakhe in unclear circumstances has also to come under scrutiny.

The Cabinet Secretary would be given a chance to defend herself both at the 11-member committee and before the whole House when the report is debated.

In his sworn statement against the introduction of the Motion, CIC chairman Charles Nyachae argued that the provisions in the Standing Orders would not accord any CS a fair hearing before the National Assembly. He said the Standing Orders were also inconsistent with Article 50 of the Constitution which gives every accused person the right to fair trial.

“The process of dismissal of a Cabinet Secretary by the National Assembly as operationalised by Standing Order 66 abridges the right of a CS to a fair trial and the right to have a dispute resolved by an independent and impartial process,” said Mr Nyachae in his affidavit.

According to the commission’s lawyer, Mr Paul Nyamodi, the provisions allowed the National Assembly to act as the complainant, investigator, prosecutor and executor of its own resolutions.

“All constitutional provisions should be read together which will prove that the commencement of removal of a CS must come from an independent body rather than the National Assembly,” he said.

CIC is seeking a declaration that provisions of the National Assembly Standing Order 66 are void to the extent that it is inconsistent with the right to a fair trial which should be accorded to the Cabinet Secretaries.

Mr Justice Onguto directed National Assembly Speaker Justin Muturi, who is listed as the respondent, to file his reply before the hearing on October 26.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Omollo on October 06, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
Kadudu

I doubt that very much. I could never endanger the life-bread on account of hubris. Hubris will bring down Uhuru as it has brought down many men in history.

I believe 120 is her cut from the loot. The evidence extracted from Family Bank was suppressed. The new CBK boss has just got an express train coming his way. Will he help conceal where the money went and keep his job or will he spill the beans and be sent packing.

Jubilee has beaten all previous governments when it comes to corruption.
Even you would move with speed to protect "hile asali yako ina sukari".
What is 120M compared to the 800M paid to the unknown by NYS? This is what we know of now and the unknown could be even more.


Gossip has it that Uhuru has moved with speed to protect the mother of his kid. Waiguru moved to a new 120 million house in Kitisuru. It can't be on her lousy CS salary.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 06, 2015, 04:18:48 PM
It would appear that holding a public office is now on the same pedestal as the Bill of Rights.  Apparently a CS has some sort of security of tenure not spelled out in the constitution.  Nyachae thinks Parliament is not an independent institution.  That it would just ride roughshod over Waiguru's sacred right to be in public office. 

In any case it's all a charade.  The focus should be on how does wanjiku get her money back pronto? whether the thief steps aside or not.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: MOON Ki on October 06, 2015, 05:53:59 PM
The focus should be on how does wanjiku get her money back pronto? whether the thief steps aside or not.

Take a look at the Kenyan media and other "outlets":   Is anyone really asking for the money to be returned?   
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2015, 06:48:57 PM
The judiciary should stay in its docket. They are overreaching and it does not look good. Does anyone see this????
After reading this twice, the judge is talking about the process not the impeachment itself..
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2015, 06:50:37 PM
120million???
No way. Stop peddling lies. No house can cost that much...Unless my head is in the sand...

Even you would move with speed to protect "hile asali yako ina sukari".
What is 120M compared to the 800M paid to the unknown by NYS? This is what we know of now and the unknown could be even more.


Gossip has it that Uhuru has moved with speed to protect the mother of his kid. Waiguru moved to a new 120 million house in Kitisuru. It can't be on her lousy CS salary.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 06, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
The focus should be on how does wanjiku get her money back pronto? whether the thief steps aside or not.

Take a look at the Kenyan media and other "outlets":   Is anyone really asking for the money to be returned?   
No.  That is the real problem I think.  They have internalized the idea that if you steal big, you should keep it, as long as you step aside or are otherwise humiliated. 

I think everyone agrees that at this point, nobody is going to jail in Kenya for that kind of theft.  If they focus on making them pay back every dime, instead of "stepping aside" and similar nonsense, that will kill some of the thrill of looting.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2015, 07:53:25 PM
The scariest thing that is happening is that the general population  has accepted the robbing of tax payer money to enrich oneself. Its been institutionalized.

The focus should be on how does wanjiku get her money back pronto? whether the thief steps aside or not.

Take a look at the Kenyan media and other "outlets":   Is anyone really asking for the money to be returned?   
No.  That is the real problem I think.  They have internalized the idea that if you steal big, you should keep it, as long as you step aside or are otherwise humiliated. 

I think everyone agrees that at this point, nobody is going to jail in Kenya for that kind of theft.  If they focus on making them pay back every dime, instead of "stepping aside" and similar nonsense, that will kill some of the thrill of looting.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: MOON Ki on October 06, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
I think everyone agrees that at this point, nobody is going to jail in Kenya for that kind of theft.  If they focus on making them pay back every dime, instead of "stepping aside" and similar nonsense, that will kill some of the thrill of looting.

This is one instance where the Opposition could show some leadership.    Stepping aside, being "cleared", and then returned to office achieves little; so I can't understand what the clamour is all about.   Similarly, it is a futile exercise to get worked up about impeaching anyone (and especially Uhuru) when Jubilee has a majority in the legislature and some CORD types would welcome an opportunity to eat.    Okoa Kenya too is another misdirected waste of time, money, and organizational effort.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
Opposition???
These goons are all the same. Am sure they'll welcome ngilu back as soon as she leaves jubilee

I think everyone agrees that at this point, nobody is going to jail in Kenya for that kind of theft.  If they focus on making them pay back every dime, instead of "stepping aside" and similar nonsense, that will kill some of the thrill of looting.

This is one instance where the Opposition could show some leadership.    Stepping aside, being "cleared", and then returned to office achieves little; so I can't understand what the clamour is all about.   Similarly, it is a futile exercise to get worked up about impeaching anyone (and especially Uhuru) when Jubilee has a majority in the legislature and some CORD types would welcome an opportunity to eat.    Okoa Kenya too is another misdirected waste of time, money, and organizational effort.
Title: Re: Waiguru Gags Parliament. Nyachae Helps Her... Media Silent
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 07, 2015, 12:39:45 AM
I think everyone agrees that at this point, nobody is going to jail in Kenya for that kind of theft.  If they focus on making them pay back every dime, instead of "stepping aside" and similar nonsense, that will kill some of the thrill of looting.

This is one instance where the Opposition could show some leadership.    Stepping aside, being "cleared", and then returned to office achieves little; so I can't understand what the clamour is all about.   Similarly, it is a futile exercise to get worked up about impeaching anyone (and especially Uhuru) when Jubilee has a majority in the legislature and some CORD types would welcome an opportunity to eat.    Okoa Kenya too is another misdirected waste of time, money, and organizational effort.
Agwambo is now asking kamwana to explain his role in fixing the hustler at ICC.  You have to assume that this is something they decided to pursue after doing some serious brainstorming.  I have never thought Raila is a saint.  But he used to be better.  He is exhibit A for the idea that you are the company you keep.