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Title: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 03, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
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President Pierre Nkurunziza(right)

Kenya stands ready to help Burundi with the elections.  A Burundian electoral official has been overhead saying We know it is only chicken.  Not turkey.  Is it not better than nothing?

Burundi's President has reached term limits and wont let go.  It can be argued that scores of people being shot in the streets is not enough to interrupt a soccer game.  Given that Burundi is no slouch when it comes to mass atrocities.
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Kenya says it stands for free and fair elections but will not interfere with the goings-on in Burundi.

Foreign Affairs PS Karanja Kibicho who toured Bujumbura on Friday said Kenya will instead focus on supporting the country’s electoral commission to help Burundians elect their leader.

“Burundi is a sovereign country and what they decide at elections is what we will support.

“The international community must support the electoral body so that elections are free, fair and transparent.” he told the Nation on Saturday.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenya-supports-fair-elections-Burundi-Karanja-Kibicho/-/1056/2704958/-/5epq5f/-/index.html
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Omollo on May 03, 2015, 08:45:06 PM
A well known burglar offering to help protect a small bank from possible burglary
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: MOON Ki on May 03, 2015, 08:51:21 PM
Never let it be said that the leaders of GoK have no sense of humour.  Anyway, the Burundian guy is hardly surprising: given a clear choice between the Hard Way and the Easy Way, the African "leader" is as predictable as Pavlov's dog.      What next?   Bwana Kibicho has pointed the way: the international community must must  must...   We should expect more of that.
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 05, 2015, 04:07:48 PM
The constitutional court, having been purged of independent judges, finally backs him, if the logic is ticky-tacky or devoid of the spirit of the law.  Predictable indeed.
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Burundi’s constitutional court has given President Pierre Nkurunziza the go-ahead to contest in the upcoming presidential elections.

The court issued the ruling Tuesday, a day after four of its judges fled to neighbouring Rwanda fearing for their safety.

“We are worried about our security so that’s why I decided to leave the country,” said one of the constitutional court judges.

The constitutional court said Mr Nkurunziza is eligible to run for the upcoming elections since he was not directly elected by the universal suffrage in 2005.

“We will agree and get satisfied with the outcome of the constitutional court,” said ruling party CNDD-FDD chairman Pascal Nyabenda.

Protests have continued in Bujumbura for the second week. At least 12 people have been killed since the protest began.

Rwanda has expressed concern over the deteriorating situation in Burundi.

"Rwanda has been particularly affected by the situation in Burundi.

“We take seriously the reports of the links to FDLR," said Rwandan Foreign minister Louise Mushikiwabo.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/Burundian-court-Nkurunziza-nod-to-contest/-/1066/2706726/-/knf0gc/-/index.html (http://www.nation.co.ke/news/africa/Burundian-court-Nkurunziza-nod-to-contest/-/1066/2706726/-/knf0gc/-/index.html)
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Georgesoros on May 06, 2015, 08:37:07 PM
Run against him and he will lose - if the polls are fair.
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 21, 2015, 09:04:09 PM
Le chef d'etat plays a round with friends.

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(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83143000/jpg/_83143339_football3reuters.jpg)

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32829176
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: MOON Ki on June 09, 2015, 11:50:21 PM
This might come across as "twisted", but it is fascinating to watch a slow-motion train wreck.   The passengers can see it, as can the bystanders.   The driver too can see it, but why change course.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000165110/burundi-president-s-defiant-bid-for-power-amid-un-warnings

Afterwards: "The international community must do something about this desperate situation!"   
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 10, 2015, 02:19:55 AM
This might come across as "twisted", but it is fascinating to watch a slow-motion train wreck.   The passengers can see it, as can the bystanders.   The driver too can see it, but why change course.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000165110/burundi-president-s-defiant-bid-for-power-amid-un-warnings (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000165110/burundi-president-s-defiant-bid-for-power-amid-un-warnings)

Afterwards: "The international community must do something about this desperate situation!"   
The Burundian is capable of going toe to toe with the best of them when it comes swinging machetes and other agricultural implements at helpless individuals.  In '94, we only missed the story because neighboring Rwanda won resoundingly on that score.

The Nkurunziza man can stand down.  But he wont.  Not because he has an "exemplary' track record like Kagame will claim when his turn comes. 

Nkurunziza would be spoilt for choice of exile locations within East Africa.  But no.  If Wanjiku has to die, then so be it.
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Omollo on June 10, 2015, 03:16:28 PM
What is happening in Burundi is a mere rehearsal of what will transpire in Rwanda. Serious mistakes were made. The Hutus will not leave power in Burundi and suffer the way their tribesmen are suffering in Rwanda. At some point something will give. Kagame is 100% against Nkurunziza. I can see both countries sponsoring rebellions against each other.

As usual the arbiter will be Museveni.

PS

I must declare my interests. I have many Hutu friends who I have met in college and work. I know Nkurunziza or knew him before he took power. I am therefore slightly biased in sympathy with the Hutus.
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 13, 2015, 11:35:15 PM
What is happening in Burundi is a mere rehearsal of what will transpire in Rwanda. Serious mistakes were made. The Hutus will not leave power in Burundi and suffer the way their tribesmen are suffering in Rwanda. At some point something will give. Kagame is 100% against Nkurunziza. I can see both countries sponsoring rebellions against each other.

As usual the arbiter will be Museveni.

PS

I must declare my interests. I have many Hutu friends who I have met in college and work. I know Nkurunziza or knew him before he took power. I am therefore slightly biased in sympathy with the Hutus.
Omollo,

If it were just about fear of Tutsi take-over, then Nkurunziza is even crazier than I thought.  Aren't Hutus 85% of the population?

How do Hutus lose if Nkurunziza does not run?
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Omollo on June 14, 2015, 01:14:19 AM
Omollo,

If it were just about fear of Tutsi take-over, then Nkurunziza is even crazier than I thought.  Aren't Hutus 85% of the population?

How do Hutus lose if Nkurunziza does not run?
Have we forgotten how non Kikuyu Kenyans tolerated Moi on account of the excesses of Kenyatta? Moi was never in danger of losing in elections in Kenya but the fear of military coups was always there.

To answer you however, note that Tutsi's tyrannized over majority hutus by military brute force. Their numbers have never increased in Burundi or Rwanda but they rule Hutus in Rwanda and until Nkurunziza came, they ruled Burundi. So the percentage you mention is meaningless. Tutsi grab power and then apply maximum brutality.

See how Kagame has arrested and kept the leader of the Opposition in prison. I am sure he plans to have her killed inside when the world is not paying attention. Yet he is feted by Blair and others. He presides over a dictatorship.

Somebody said he wants to run for a Third term. What joke? Kagame took power way back in 1994, remained "Vice President" with all the power, dictating to the so called "President". He finally decided to drop the pretence in 2000. Right now he can choose to be a District Officer and he will still rule Rwanda from his district.

2000 - 2003 - Transitional Constitution (like Nkurunziza)
2003 - 2010 - First term
2010 - 2017 - Second Term
2017 - ???
Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 30, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
Burundi succesfully holds the elections.  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/29/burundi-elections-violent-start-grenade-explosion (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/29/burundi-elections-violent-start-grenade-explosion)

Nkurunziza rode himself to the poll station on a mountain bike.  The opposition boycotted the elections.  This is how the African does his shit.

Title: Re: Kenya To Assist Burundi With Elections
Post by: RV Pundit on July 01, 2015, 11:29:12 AM
For the same reason kagame rules Rwanda, It good Nkurunziza rules Burundi. Democracy is not for everywhere. Not when it accentuate ethnic difference. I think Rwanda and Burundi have to settle for something like Swiss or some country up there. They should have rotational presidency btw Hutus and Tustis.