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Forum => Controversial => Topic started by: vooke on February 15, 2015, 06:44:33 PM

Title: The Kingdom of The Cults - Dr. Walter Martin
Post by: vooke on February 15, 2015, 06:44:33 PM
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800 pages of the MOST comprehensive scholarly work on Christian cults.

The 'original' book
http://eindtijdinbeeld.nl/EiB-Bibliotheek/Boeken/KingdomOfTheCultsWalterMartin.pdf

This has hyperlinks for ease of navigation
http://servantofmessiah.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/08/Kingdom-of-the-Cults-by-Walter-Martin.pdf

PS: Nuff Sed,
I highly suggest after the pleasantries you skip everything and jump into Appendix C: The Puzzle of Seventh Day Adventists. A 120 page section that has changed my decades old perception of SDA for good
Title: Re: The Kingdom of The Cults - Dr. Walter Martin
Post by: GeeMail on February 16, 2015, 02:06:04 PM
Not to interfere but who is surprised to hear Fr Ad Hominem Naturalis citing another Fr Ad Hominem to back up an ad hominem attack? Anybody can call another person's religion a cult. If we were to list the labels people have for each other we'll take all the bandwidth. If it matters, have you read any book on the world's biggest cult? Labels do not carry scriptural weight.

Cult
In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.[1] However, whether any particular group's beliefs and practices are sufficiently deviant or novel is often unclear, thus making a precise definition problematic.[2][3] In the English speaking world, the word often carries derogatory connotations.[4][5]
The word "cult" has always been controversial because it is (in a pejorative sense) considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with differing doctrines or practices, which lacks a clear or consistent definition.[6][7]

http://voice-wilderness.org/questions-about-god/is-roman-catholisim-a-cult/

If the mother is a cult then naturally all her daughters who remain faithful to her unscriptural teachings is equally cultic.
Title: Re: The Kingdom of The Cults - Dr. Walter Martin
Post by: vooke on February 16, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
Let's exchange notes once you are done

Of course I know your indoctrination has trained you to shun 'apostate' literature...keeps you glued to EGW and basically thaws your brains..that's why simple historical facts are resisted at all cost
Not to interfere but who is surprised to hear Fr Ad Hominem Naturalis citing another Fr Ad Hominem to back up an ad hominem attack? Anybody can call another person's religion a cult. If we were to list the labels people have for each other we'll take all the bandwidth. If it matters, have you read any book on the world's biggest cult? Labels do not carry scriptural weight.

Cult
In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.[1] However, whether any particular group's beliefs and practices are sufficiently deviant or novel is often unclear, thus making a precise definition problematic.[2][3] In the English speaking world, the word often carries derogatory connotations.[4][5]
The word "cult" has always been controversial because it is (in a pejorative sense) considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with differing doctrines or practices, which lacks a clear or consistent definition.[6][7]

http://voice-wilderness.org/questions-about-god/is-roman-catholisim-a-cult/

If the mother is a cult then naturally all her daughters who remain faithful to her unscriptural teachings is equally cultic.
Title: Re: The Kingdom of The Cults - Dr. Walter Martin
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 16, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Let's exchange notes once you are done

Of course I know your indoctrination has trained you to shun 'apostate' literature...keeps you glued to EGW and basically thaws your brains..that's why simple historical facts are resisted at all cost
Not to interfere but who is surprised to hear Fr Ad Hominem Naturalis citing another Fr Ad Hominem to back up an ad hominem attack? Anybody can call another person's religion a cult. If we were to list the labels people have for each other we'll take all the bandwidth. If it matters, have you read any book on the world's biggest cult? Labels do not carry scriptural weight.

Cult
In the sociological classifications of religious movements, a cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.[1] However, whether any particular group's beliefs and practices are sufficiently deviant or novel is often unclear, thus making a precise definition problematic.[2][3] In the English speaking world, the word often carries derogatory connotations.[4][5]
The word "cult" has always been controversial because it is (in a pejorative sense) considered a subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with differing doctrines or practices, which lacks a clear or consistent definition.[6][7]

http://voice-wilderness.org/questions-about-god/is-roman-catholisim-a-cult/ (http://voice-wilderness.org/questions-about-god/is-roman-catholisim-a-cult/)

If the mother is a cult then naturally all her daughters who remain faithful to her unscriptural teachings is equally cultic.
That's a new one.  The notion that a religious person can call out another one for being indoctrinated.  I am otherwise not taking sides.
Title: Re: The Kingdom of The Cults - Dr. Walter Martin
Post by: GeeMail on February 17, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
Mrs Kettle calling Miss Pot black.